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Complaint Review: National City Bank

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  • Submitted: Fri, November 21, 2008
  • Updated: Sat, March 28, 2009

  • Reported By:Boca Raton Florida
National City Bank
6943 SW 18th Street Boca Raton, Florida U.S.A.
  • Phone: 561-391-5957
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  • Category: Banks

National City Bank RUDE, UNETHICAL, UNPROFESSIONAL, LYING, SCUM OF THE EARTH Boca Raton Florida

*Consumer Suggestion: Again, the phoney William A is spreading lies about the REAL Willaim Avrich!

*Consumer Suggestion: Come on Ohio39 Open your Eyes, see the real Willie

*Consumer Comment: Do not believe anything that the phony William A. says about the real Mr. William Avrich.

*Consumer Comment: NEWS FLASH Willie Repeats Offense But People Want the Truth Till The End!!!

*Author of original report: I AM RETRACTING MY COMPLAINT IN THE INTEREST OF MAKING PEACE AND MOVING FORWARD

*Consumer Suggestion: William Avrich is a wonderful person who has saved countless victims from a timeshare scam. Don't believe this phony "William A." sicko..

*Author of original report: NEWS FLASH - PHONY "WILLIAM A." CAUGHT HAVING SEX WITH A ROTTWEILER

*Consumer Comment: Avrich Has The Brain Size Of a Pea or Flea

*Author of original report: THE PHONY "WILLIAM A." IS REALLY A FAT SLOB WEST BOCA NATIONAL CITY BANK bull-dike

*Author of original report: THE PHONY "WILLIAM A." IS REALLY A FAT SLOB WEST BOCA NATIONAL CITY BANK bull-dike

*Author of original report: THE PHONY "WILLIAM A." IS REALLY A FAT SLOB WEST BOCA NATIONAL CITY BANK bull-dike

*Author of original report: THE PHONY "WILLIAM A." IS REALLY A FAT SLOB WEST BOCA NATIONAL CITY BANK bull-dike

*Consumer Comment: Willie You Are still Lying to Us and Yourself

*Author of original report: "Princess27K" IS A UNIVERSAL MARKETING SOLUTIONS EMPLOYEE AND DELRAY BEACH HOOKER

*Consumer Comment: Bocabill

*UPDATE Employee: WILLIAM A. IS NOT REALLY WILLIAM AVRICH

*Author of original report: To The PHONY PUNK calling himself "William A." From The REAL William Avrich

*Author of original report: Addendum to my last post ... ATTENTION PHONY "WILLIAM A."

*Author of original report: Addendum to my last post ... ATTENTION PHONY "WILLIAM A."

*Author of original report: Addendum to my last post ... ATTENTION PHONY "WILLIAM A."

*Consumer Comment: Stop All Your Lies Willie, Come Clean

*Consumer Comment: Abigal You have a case

*Author of original report: ANOTHER NATIONAL CITY LOW-LIFE BANKER RISES TO THE OCCASION

*UPDATE Employee: Your ridiculous

*Author of original report: DEAR ABBY

*Author of original report: DEAR ABIGAIL

*Author of original report: MESSAGE TO NATIONAL CITY ABIGAIL OF VICKSBURG, MI

*Author of original report: MESSAGE TO NATIONAL CITY ABIGAIL OF VICKSBURG, MI

*Author of original report: MESSAGE TO NATIONAL CITY ABIGAIL OF VICKSBURG, MI

*Author of original report: MESSAGE TO NATIONAL CITY ABIGAIL OF VICKSBURG, MI

*Author of original report: NATIONAL CITY BANK SUCKS!!!

*UPDATE Employee: Do you realize...

*Author of original report: AND STILL TWO MORE NATIONAL CITY SCUM EMPLOYEES RISE TO THE OCCASION!

*Author of original report: AND STILL TWO MORE NATIONAL CITY SCUM EMPLOYEES RISE TO THE OCCASION!

*Author of original report: AND STILL TWO MORE NATIONAL CITY SCUM EMPLOYEES RISE TO THE OCCASION!

*Author of original report: AND STILL TWO MORE NATIONAL CITY SCUM EMPLOYEES RISE TO THE OCCASION!

*Consumer Comment: Doing business with William

*Consumer Comment: Some comments...

*Author of original report: ANOTHER NATIONAL CITY LOW-LIFE BANKER RISES TO THE OCCASION

*UPDATE Employee: K first of all

*Author of original report: RE: ABIGAIL OF NATIONAL CITY BANK, VICKSBURG, MI

*Author of original report: NATIONAL CITY BANK LOWLIFE SCUM EMPLOYEES IMPERSONATING WILLIAM AVRICH ON THIS SITE

*Author of original report: THE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED IN AS "WILLIAM A." IS A PHONY, IMPERSONATING ME

*Author of original report: PHONY SLOB EMPLOYEES OF NATIONAL CITY BANK IMPERSONATING WILLIAM AVRICH

*Author of original report: PHONY SLOB EMPLOYEES OF NATIONAL CITY BANK IMPERSONATING WILLIAM AVRICH

*Author of original report: PHONY SLOB EMPLOYEES OF NATIONAL CITY BANK IMPERSONATING WILLIAM AVRICH

*Author of original report: PHONY SLOB EMPLOYEES OF NATIONAL CITY BANK IMPERSONATING WILLIAM AVRICH

*Consumer Comment: Calm Down William

*Consumer Comment: Tired of Everyone Putting Me Down = (((this rebuttal is bogus, not posted by the author of this report.)))

*UPDATE Employee: Hmmm

*UPDATE Employee: Listen..

*Consumer Comment: Question

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NOTE: The following comments are my opinion, based on my personal experience in dealing with National City Bank.

This bank and particular branch location, is THE most unethical and unprofessional bank I have ever had the displeasure of dealing with.

The following employees at this branch 18th St. and Powerline Rd. are scum of the earth, miserable, rude, disgusting individuals, with a rotten attitude. Very phony and totally lacking in customer service skills.

The employees are:

Rebecca Airgood (office manager) - very rude and insulting
Stacy Henson (customer service receptionist) - very rude
Debbie Orr (Boca Raton district manager) - very phony

All treated me in a rude and disrespectful manner when I inquired about and attempted to negotiate, a CD rate for a very substantial deposit.

I am also going to include the name of another individual with whom I spoke about the same matter. Shirley Clark. She is the branch manager of the downtown Delray Beach branch. A real witch with a nasty disposition. Fits right in with the above trash.

And in customer service, we have the illustrious Gary Kloosterman and Chad Newman. Two phony imbeciles.

But don't just take my word for it. Google National City Bank Complaints and see for yourself.

A person would have to be a complete idiot to do any business whatsoever with this bank, who is in the process of being bought out as this is being written.

National City Bank...GOODBYE and GOOD RIDDANCE!

William
Boca Raton, Florida
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 11/21/2008 01:23 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/National-City-Bank/Boca-Raton-Florida-33433/National-City-Bank-RUDE-UNETHICAL-UNPROFESSIONAL-LYING-SCUM-OF-THE-EARTH-Boca-Raton-Fl-393696. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Again, the phoney William A is spreading lies about the REAL Willaim Avrich!

AUTHOR: George - (U.S.A.)

Hey PHONEY WILLIAM A, you are proving to be a vile liar and you are attacking the wrong guy! The William Avrich I know has been an incredible help to me and has enabled me to retrieve over $1400 that those rip-off artists scammed me of this past January 2009. If you have chosen to attack people falsely, you are as bad or worse than them. If you have something against the real William Avrich, why don't you have the decency and integrety to speak with him directly rather than hiding behind your computer, pretending to be him. By the way, why don't you disclose your real name, instead of using a false name. I consider that be quite dispicable. I am deeply inddebted to William Avrich for the time and expertise, and the integrety he has shown towards me and others who have experienced the dishonesty of these scam artists. Signed: George Berends
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#2 Consumer Suggestion

Come on Ohio39 Open your Eyes, see the real Willie

AUTHOR: William A - (U.S.A.)

Listen Ohio39, if you know willie, then ask him. Ask him straight out if what is written by me here is the truth. I dare you to be brave enough to ask the tough question. And you know what Ohio39, if he doesn't give you the truth, I will give you the phone number to his parole officer and you can ask her yourself.

I am so tired of the Lies willie has spread. Wake up everyone and ask questions. Search for the truth. Avrich is a convicted liar. I would love for the little willie to respond here. Everyone who thinks willie is a good guy, an honest guy, ask him to make one more post here. One last comment from the man you love. Ask him, plead, say willie defend yourself, talk to us.

Oh come on willie do it for them. I know you troll here looking to respond, you can't help yourself. Respond ONE LAST TIME. and it will be. Part of staying out of jail is that willie can't use the computer anymore. Oops bad boy willie.

So those who think I am lying, ask him, those who doubt me, look for his response right here. You have a long time to wait. Willie can not come out to play anymore. Mum took the toys away, and he needs to sit in the corner until he can play nice with others.

But talk to me willie, I still want that car.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Do not believe anything that the phony William A. says about the real Mr. William Avrich.

AUTHOR: Ohio39 - (U.S.A.)

Mr. Avrich is helping me to obtain a refund from a company that has scammed me on the Internet. I believe that this phony William A. that is posting on this website is working for the company that scammed me and is trying to discredit Mr. Avrich.
Please do not listen to anything that this sick person has to say. Mr. Avrich is only trying to help people by posting the truth about corrupt businesses.
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#4 Consumer Comment

NEWS FLASH Willie Repeats Offense But People Want the Truth Till The End!!!

AUTHOR: William A - (U.S.A.)

Willie wants to close this and make good. Let me repeat, Willie wants this to go away. Why is that willie? Tell everyone so they know the truth.

See folks for all his lies and twisting of the truth William Avrich was doing the same thing he did before. The same thing he was arrested and jailed for last time. And unfortunately not enough time has passed for willie to be doing the same thing again. Right willie? See he wants to make nice because he was picked up and spent some time on the state again for violating the terms of his probation.

I almost had that car willie. I was all set to take pictures and make good on my promise willie. Oh well, you can't keep your mouth shut like I said before, you will do this again. So stop lying to people and keep off the computer. See you soon willie.
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#5 Author of original report

I AM RETRACTING MY COMPLAINT IN THE INTEREST OF MAKING PEACE AND MOVING FORWARD

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

I contacted the editor of ripoffreport.com and requested that he delete this complaint, because I would like to make peace and move forward. However, he advised that it is his policy not to remove complaints, and he refused to do so. So, please consider this post as a retraction.
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#6 Consumer Suggestion

William Avrich is a wonderful person who has saved countless victims from a timeshare scam. Don't believe this phony "William A." sicko..

AUTHOR: Timeshare Avenger - (U.S.A.)

William Avrich helped timeshares scam victims of Universal Marketing solutions get back roughly $50,000.00 in stolen refunds, and the figure is climbing daily. He did not have to do this but is a wonderful, good-hearted person who cares about the rights of consumers and will never turn down a request for help. He is a professional consumer advocate. This business about the phony "William A." who is obviously a mentally disturbed individual, is utter nonsense. Why would this person not come forward and reveal their true identity, as Mr. Avrich has done? Obviously, whoever this cowardly, insecure, little fool is, he or she has too much time on their hands. Possibly unemployed? I wonder why? Jealousy will motivate some people to do very stupid things, and apparently that is the situation here. So Bill, keep up the good work and ignore this moron who only wishes they were half the human being you are. God Bless.
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#7 Author of original report

NEWS FLASH - PHONY "WILLIAM A." CAUGHT HAVING SEX WITH A ROTTWEILER

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

Yes folks, it is true. The phony FAT SLOB, posting on Ripoffreport.com under the handle "William A." and pretending to be William Avrich, has been arrested and charged with cruelty to animals. Apparently, police found this vulgar pervert with a known history of bestiality charges, in her trailer located in West Boca Raton, FL. She was being mounted from behind by a male Rottweiler. A neighbor in the trailer park reported the fiend, after noticing that her canine was missing for several days. She reported hearing yelping sounds coming from the culprit's trailer, as though the poor canine was being forced to "breed" against its own will. Another possibility is that the pooch was offended by the FAT SLOB'S BAD BREATH, or POWERFUL ANAL ODOR. It is not surprising. The dog's owner stated that she will be seeking psychotherapy for her beloved pet.
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#8 Consumer Comment

Avrich Has The Brain Size Of a Pea or Flea

AUTHOR: William A - (U.S.A.)

Willie, You are such a loser. I tell only the truth and all you can come back with is filth. You are a pathetic, Red nosed Piece of dog Dung. A drunk Wife beating slob who has no clue about life. I told you from the start, I don't work for the bank. Not National City or any Bank. So get off the drugs you low-life slug. Prison really did a number on your warped brain. All you can do is curse and run your fire retarded mouth. YOU ARE A WIFE BEATER. You are a felon. You can smear people but everyone knows the facts. Avrich, lover of small boys. Watcher of gay porn. Owner of a townhouse next to the railroad tracks, like every other piece of scum you spent time in prison with. Your car is crap, and you bullied the dealership to give it to you cheap. what you do get down on your knees and do what you do best? Just like Prison willie? Bring back memories?

You really think I would waste my time if I worked for the bank? I'm sure they don't even read the garbage you create. Is that part of your twisted theory that only the bank employees hate you. Once again willie, I don't work for the bank in any form. I have been watching your sorry life, how when you don't get your way all you can do is run your mouth. Well except when you drink, then you can strike women. Really rough them up tough guy. And from what I can tell, you are what you call everyone else. You have lied about everything so I am sure you lie to yourself that you still like girls. You don't and they don't like you. I wish I was this Lesbian, I could get away with Bitch slapping a pig like you. But sorry willie, you know me, and I will sure let you know the next time we meet. So keep that demented mind on your precious little car, hate to see a tire go on it. Or it get a scratch. Being next to the tracks is a tough place to keep a fancy car like that.

So to wrap this up. William willie Avrich is posing as a man with money, He goes by ourmanflint, and Bocabill. He wants you to believe he has money and that he is a real tough guy. He is a proven liar, and willie I am sure you were the one who licked the urine from the toilet. You are a scrawny low life old man, who still believes he matters in this world. Is that thing on your face cancer? You dying from it. I will have to ask your ex-wife the next time I see her. She said you used to be a decent guy, guess that was when you could still get it up for girls. You are now scum. You are what the rest of the people around you wipe from their shoe. You only posted your name, because I posted it, you dumb ass. You hid behind ourmanflint. You didn't have the balls to give your name, and you still use other fake names to lie. You couldn't tell the truth from your very first post. YOU are a wife beating liar willie. The only truth that has been posted on this site is the information I have posted. All you can do is curse, which shows you are barely smarter than a dumb bear. Come on willie smarten up. If Abigail gave the word we would come after you. And take all that nice green money of yours. You just don't know when to shut that pie hole of yours. Do you foam when you write these posts? I can see you getting all crazy willie, soiling yourself like a little school girl. Going out and beating another defenseless woman. Good Luck willie the red nosed liar. Enjoy life outside, because it won't be long till your back on the inside. A loser like you can't keep his mouth shut for too long. Guess that is why they liked you in prison. I will keep an eye out willie for when your car comes up for auction. I will send you a picture of it when you are back in the big house. You can wank off to it when thinking of all the money you ONCE had.
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#9 Author of original report

THE PHONY "WILLIAM A." IS REALLY A FAT SLOB WEST BOCA NATIONAL CITY BANK bull-dike

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

Apparently FATSO, you didn't read the rebuttal I previous wrote. Are you that stupid, you FAT, undesirable, pussy-eating, piece of dog excrement, bull-dike? You just don't get it, do you? You are NOTHING in this world compared to me. I can buy and sell you one hundred times over. So you DO admit to living in a trailer! Finally you have told the truth about something, you FAT slob. As for my East Boca townhouse and new BMW M3, you can keep on dreaming. The closest you'll ever come to experiencing anything as luxurious as these is if I needed my toilet bowls and tires cleaned. Then I'd send for you, you grotesque pig. You can put that filthy tongue of yours to use for something other than rimming assholes. Got it, "Rebecca"??? Or should I just refer to you as all of your fellow Budweiser drinking bull-dikes do ... "Airhead"??? Hey LESBIAN PIG, you gave yourself away when you started using words like "wanker" and "dribble". Of course, you are referring to that third member that you WISH you were born with, and the decayed food and other contaminants that ooze down your FAT chin. You are a repulsive-looking, low IQ, low salaried bank employee, and it just kills you to see someone with REAL money, doesn't it? A nice kick in that FAT ass of yours would serve you well, you cantankerous blob. Well, it's now time for my Grey Goose martini with three olives. In closing, BUTT-LICK, let me just say that you are a champion of a defeated cause, because you have no impact on my knowledge or behavior whatsoever, and can only bend, not stretch. Chew on that one, "Airhead". HA HA HA
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#10 Author of original report

THE PHONY "WILLIAM A." IS REALLY A FAT SLOB WEST BOCA NATIONAL CITY BANK bull-dike

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

Apparently FATSO, you didn't read the rebuttal I previous wrote. Are you that stupid, you FAT, undesirable, pussy-eating, piece of dog excrement, bull-dike? You just don't get it, do you? You are NOTHING in this world compared to me. I can buy and sell you one hundred times over. So you DO admit to living in a trailer! Finally you have told the truth about something, you FAT slob. As for my East Boca townhouse and new BMW M3, you can keep on dreaming. The closest you'll ever come to experiencing anything as luxurious as these is if I needed my toilet bowls and tires cleaned. Then I'd send for you, you grotesque pig. You can put that filthy tongue of yours to use for something other than rimming assholes. Got it, "Rebecca"??? Or should I just refer to you as all of your fellow Budweiser drinking bull-dikes do ... "Airhead"??? Hey LESBIAN PIG, you gave yourself away when you started using words like "wanker" and "dribble". Of course, you are referring to that third member that you WISH you were born with, and the decayed food and other contaminants that ooze down your FAT chin. You are a repulsive-looking, low IQ, low salaried bank employee, and it just kills you to see someone with REAL money, doesn't it? A nice kick in that FAT ass of yours would serve you well, you cantankerous blob. Well, it's now time for my Grey Goose martini with three olives. In closing, BUTT-LICK, let me just say that you are a champion of a defeated cause, because you have no impact on my knowledge or behavior whatsoever, and can only bend, not stretch. Chew on that one, "Airhead". HA HA HA
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#11 Author of original report

THE PHONY "WILLIAM A." IS REALLY A FAT SLOB WEST BOCA NATIONAL CITY BANK bull-dike

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

Apparently FATSO, you didn't read the rebuttal I previous wrote. Are you that stupid, you FAT, undesirable, pussy-eating, piece of dog excrement, bull-dike? You just don't get it, do you? You are NOTHING in this world compared to me. I can buy and sell you one hundred times over. So you DO admit to living in a trailer! Finally you have told the truth about something, you FAT slob. As for my East Boca townhouse and new BMW M3, you can keep on dreaming. The closest you'll ever come to experiencing anything as luxurious as these is if I needed my toilet bowls and tires cleaned. Then I'd send for you, you grotesque pig. You can put that filthy tongue of yours to use for something other than rimming assholes. Got it, "Rebecca"??? Or should I just refer to you as all of your fellow Budweiser drinking bull-dikes do ... "Airhead"??? Hey LESBIAN PIG, you gave yourself away when you started using words like "wanker" and "dribble". Of course, you are referring to that third member that you WISH you were born with, and the decayed food and other contaminants that ooze down your FAT chin. You are a repulsive-looking, low IQ, low salaried bank employee, and it just kills you to see someone with REAL money, doesn't it? A nice kick in that FAT ass of yours would serve you well, you cantankerous blob. Well, it's now time for my Grey Goose martini with three olives. In closing, BUTT-LICK, let me just say that you are a champion of a defeated cause, because you have no impact on my knowledge or behavior whatsoever, and can only bend, not stretch. Chew on that one, "Airhead". HA HA HA
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#12 Author of original report

THE PHONY "WILLIAM A." IS REALLY A FAT SLOB WEST BOCA NATIONAL CITY BANK bull-dike

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

Apparently FATSO, you didn't read the rebuttal I previous wrote. Are you that stupid, you FAT, undesirable, pussy-eating, piece of dog excrement, bull-dike? You just don't get it, do you? You are NOTHING in this world compared to me. I can buy and sell you one hundred times over. So you DO admit to living in a trailer! Finally you have told the truth about something, you FAT slob. As for my East Boca townhouse and new BMW M3, you can keep on dreaming. The closest you'll ever come to experiencing anything as luxurious as these is if I needed my toilet bowls and tires cleaned. Then I'd send for you, you grotesque pig. You can put that filthy tongue of yours to use for something other than rimming assholes. Got it, "Rebecca"??? Or should I just refer to you as all of your fellow Budweiser drinking bull-dikes do ... "Airhead"??? Hey LESBIAN PIG, you gave yourself away when you started using words like "wanker" and "dribble". Of course, you are referring to that third member that you WISH you were born with, and the decayed food and other contaminants that ooze down your FAT chin. You are a repulsive-looking, low IQ, low salaried bank employee, and it just kills you to see someone with REAL money, doesn't it? A nice kick in that FAT ass of yours would serve you well, you cantankerous blob. Well, it's now time for my Grey Goose martini with three olives. In closing, BUTT-LICK, let me just say that you are a champion of a defeated cause, because you have no impact on my knowledge or behavior whatsoever, and can only bend, not stretch. Chew on that one, "Airhead". HA HA HA
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#13 Consumer Comment

Willie You Are still Lying to Us and Yourself

AUTHOR: William A - (U.S.A.)

Willie,

You are just too funny. When you get cornered you don't answer the questions you just smear more lies. But you are such a horrible orator that people can see when you write your dribble and when you go off on your rants.

Sue you, I would personally love to. You are such a low-life mouse that taking you to court would expose you to all the lies you spread. That is what happened in your last case. You don't have a leg to stand on so you smear people to make yourself feel good. And to meet me? Willie old boy you have met me. See I know who you are and you have no clue about me. I have met you a couple times in East Boca. I mean you are self-conscious about that blotch on your face, did that cause you trouble in prison? Is that why you need to bully people now, because you feel like a freak?

And for you to make fun of where anyone lives is hysterical. The scummiest part of Boca is near the train tracks. You can't give the property away. And you don't even own a house, you live in an apartment. Oh you will spin that, won't you willie? You live in a condo? You own the whole block? You live with mother? (doubt that she could even have stood you, she like your wife better?) Must be tough listening to that train rumble bye. I would rather live in a trailer home Willie than that close to the tracks.

Willie I am very disappointed that you could even pick up mud to sling. Let those without sin cast the first stone. Damn Willie how many times have you been charged with domestic violence? Have a little temper problem? Just like hitting defenseless women? Now see, people can go see what you have done. Your crimes are documented in court papers. People can go to http://home.earthlink.net/~71600/searchresult.asp.html and see what a liar and abuser you are. Some people I have heard, and this is not my opinion, but what I have heard, say that you like different creatures these days. Small innocent ones. Too young to defend themselves. But that is just a rumor, right willie? just hearsay. Like someone being a lesbian? I'm sorry you said transsexual. Could you not spell lesbian? Or the word too young for you? Funny how Bill is just another form of willie, try to be original. You are so horrible a liar, do you believe that people really believe that all your informants know dirt on people? That they know salary and criminal investigations? You are such a wanker willie. So Bill was there the day you came in? Good then he can tell the truth.

So that brings us back to the truth willie. What happened that day? You negotiated a rate and length of time on your $300,000 CD, right so far willie? Then you came in to close the deal. Did you start to feel a little confident that you suckered the bank into such a good rate that you thought you could do better? So you sit down and say, I want a better rate AND a different length of time. You wanted a better rate willie and a longer time and they wouldn't give you an answer straight away? Right so far good old willie? They have the right to say no willie. They don't have to take your money. But you just sat there wanting your new rate and new length of time. Becoming more of the old abusive you. Did you want to hit them willie. Give them a good smack for being rude to you. Did Linda get that way with you? You have a long line of Domestic violence cases. How many others went unreported? Or was it that there was no alcohol to give you that macho boost? Not one of those willie that can't get it up without a drink? Anyway willie thanks for coming clean. Feel better? How many times did you crank call the bank the next day? Such an idiot, since you went away to prison, they came out with caller ID. Your number comes up. and you can also dial *69 to get your number. I am sure we will read about you in the Darwin Awards soon.

Now willie, stop writing here. YOU ARE A PROVEN LIAR. amongst other things. Your court records show what kind of man you are, what kind of person. Everything else shows how low you will go to lie. Now lift the rock and crawl back under, let the rest of us get on without your hate and lies.
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#14 Author of original report

"Princess27K" IS A UNIVERSAL MARKETING SOLUTIONS EMPLOYEE AND DELRAY BEACH HOOKER

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

"Princess27K" is an employee of Universal Marketing Solutions, Delray Beach's notorious timeshare re-sales scam company. The "Princess" is known to offer oral services in exchange for rides to and from her halfway house in Delray Beach, where she shares a room with two other crack addicts. She resides there due to her crack cocaine addiction. She is also being investigated for possible cruelty to animals, after allegedly having sex with a Doberman Pinscher and videotaping it.
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#15 Consumer Comment

Bocabill

AUTHOR: Princess27k - (U.S.A.)

Don't listen to BocaBill... He really is William Avrich... Look at his comments at www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/universal-marketing-sollutions-c131016.html
Nice rebuttal "BILL".
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#16 UPDATE Employee

WILLIAM A. IS NOT REALLY WILLIAM AVRICH

AUTHOR: Bocabill - (U.S.A.)

My name is "Bill" and I work for National City Bank in Boca Raton, FL, and will soon be quitting. Mr. William Avrich is 100% correct in his postings about our branch. He was treated rudely and disrespectfully when he came to our branch to do business. I witnessed everything from the other side of the front lobby. "William A." who is impersonating the REAL Mr. William Avrich, is an imposter. In fact, this is one of the female employees that Mr. Avrich targeted in his original complaint. This employee has been accused of sexual harassment by another female employee and is currently under investigation. It is my belief that "she" might even be a transsexual. Please do not believe a single word of anything this sick, perverted individual has to say. As far as her hiring an attorney to sue Mr. Avrich, I know for a fact that she earns a whopping $12.00 an hour and cannot even afford her weekly grocery bills. She lives in a trailer park and takes the bus to work. What you are seeing is her pure envy unleashed. Have pity on this miserable wretched creature. She is indeed, a tortured soul.
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#17 Author of original report

To The PHONY PUNK calling himself "William A." From The REAL William Avrich

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

NOTE: the EDitor's staff of this website verified that I am the real William A. - you can tell becuase my postings say "Update by Author" at the top of the comments in BOLD RED. - the Phony William A. an employee of the bank postings say Consumer comment or employee, trying to make it look like I was making those posts. - again, this is all verified by ripoff report staff. If it were not true, they would not let this post go thru.

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Hey PUNK ... You are a pathetic, sniveling little WORM. This addresses both of your posts. If you were in front of me right now, so help me, I'd bitch-slap you into next week, like the LITTLE BITCH you are. You haven't the balls to post your real name, so instead you post under "William A." from Boca Raton, FL. Truth of the matter is, you are a sissy. A little whore. I am William Avrich and unlike you, have no problem posting my real name. Let's first address your post concerning the harlot, "Abigail", from Vicksburg, MI. So you looked up the definition of libel and slander. Big deal. Then you said you'd put up the money for her to hire an attorney to sue me. I say, post your REAL name as I did, and either shit or get off the pot, LITTLE BITCH. You haven't got a dime to for a cup of coffee, let alone to hire an attorney ... even a shyster like my previous one. So I served time ... big deal. So did Murph the Surf, Mercury Morris, and many other cool people. Think I care? I've resumed my life with gusto and zeal. I have made and will continue to make a lot of money. More in one week than you can earn in 6 months. You seem to know a lot about me, don't you? That I live in a very expensive luxury tri-level East Boca townhouse with a private elevator, and drive a 2008 BMW M3 ... BOTH paid for in CASH, my groveling little minion of National City Bank. And, on top of all that, the $300,000.00 CD that I recently opened at a REAL bank, is a mere pittance of what I have in my total assets. And I don't owe anybody one cent. So if you think you can get my money, go ahead ... make my day and try it. About the only money you'll ever get out of me is to pay for some flowers at your funeral. YOU on the other hand, are a LITTLE BITCH. YOU are the kind of PUNK I hired in prison to clean out my cell for a pack of rip. And when I caught you missing a drop of urine from the floor, I'd have you lick it up instead of using your boxers that you used to scrub the inside of my toilet. Yes, you are just that type. You see, BITCH, I can buy and sell you ALL DAY LONG. You are a lousy $12.00 an hour National City Bank drone. So, if you know where I live and have my telephone number, why not call me and set up a meeting place, so I can meet you and spit in your face? We can begin there, and you can make the next move. Why be a coward and post under "William A."? Why hide? I don't need to play games like you, LITTLE BITCH. We both know what I've got and it's just killing you. You are eating your heart out with envy and I LOVE IT. It's great to have LOTS of money in these poor economic times. I feel bad for the poor, unfortunate, NICE people who don't, and I try and help all that I can. But in your case, it's even better to know that a groveling, sniveling LITTLE BITCH like you has absolutely NOTHING, and can't stand the fact that I walked into your shitty little bank with a nice, crisp cashier's cheque for 300 GRAND and was willing to drop it on your cheap desk and open just ANOTHER of my multiple JUMBO CD's. Well guess what, PUNK ... I WIN AND YOU LOSE ... simple as that. YOU are a HAVE-NOTHING. A TOTAL LOSER. BOTTOM LINE ... I LIVE LIKE A KING ... YOU TOIL LIKE A SERF. 'NUFF SAID!
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#18 Author of original report

Addendum to my last post ... ATTENTION PHONY "WILLIAM A."

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

I really want you to try and come after my money. I really, really do. Then, I can find out exactly who you really are, sniveler. And if you watched either of the two Flint movies (you may be an old bag for all I know and care) remember how it ended, right??? Flint destroyed his enemies and got all the beautiful chicks. And that's exactly what will happen here. I will destroy you, and then go out and get laid with a girl who looks like Yvonne Craig in her prime. So, my scummy little bank teller, go back to counting pennies and keep on dreaming! Maybe one day, I'll hire you to spray Armor All on the tires of my brand spanking new 2008 BMW M3.
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#19 Author of original report

Addendum to my last post ... ATTENTION PHONY "WILLIAM A."

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

I really want you to try and come after my money. I really, really do. Then, I can find out exactly who you really are, sniveler. And if you watched either of the two Flint movies (you may be an old bag for all I know and care) remember how it ended, right??? Flint destroyed his enemies and got all the beautiful chicks. And that's exactly what will happen here. I will destroy you, and then go out and get laid with a girl who looks like Yvonne Craig in her prime. So, my scummy little bank teller, go back to counting pennies and keep on dreaming! Maybe one day, I'll hire you to spray Armor All on the tires of my brand spanking new 2008 BMW M3.
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#20 Author of original report

Addendum to my last post ... ATTENTION PHONY "WILLIAM A."

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

I really want you to try and come after my money. I really, really do. Then, I can find out exactly who you really are, sniveler. And if you watched either of the two Flint movies (you may be an old bag for all I know and care) remember how it ended, right??? Flint destroyed his enemies and got all the beautiful chicks. And that's exactly what will happen here. I will destroy you, and then go out and get laid with a girl who looks like Yvonne Craig in her prime. So, my scummy little bank teller, go back to counting pennies and keep on dreaming! Maybe one day, I'll hire you to spray Armor All on the tires of my brand spanking new 2008 BMW M3.
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#21 Consumer Comment

Stop All Your Lies Willie, Come Clean

AUTHOR: William A - (U.S.A.)

Oh Willie,

Seems you got your own marketing department now. That is great. But maybe you should tell the truth for once on these boards you post to. Try it once Willie and see if you feel better. Because all you have done so far is Lie and smear people. And somewhere in your mind, you really do believe all these responses come from employees. Can't anyone else just hate you?

First Tell people about your login name. Come on Willie not everybody is as old as you and can remember Our Man Flint. So do you believe you are Derek Flint? I think you are more like the Mad Scientists. You see folks the Scientists just like Willie here want to Blackmail the world. You should call yourself Galaxy then Willie because you are trying to screw everyone. Sort of like the Prison shower?

You wrote a good rebuttal to yourself Willie. It is cool how your banking relationship with another bank is so intimate. They know how you were wrongly accused and wrongly sent to prison. That is deep for a banker. Shame they didn't let us know the bank name so we could verify it. To tell you the truth Willie ANY bank that did business with you has lost my business.

Oh back to the truth Willie, So are you going to tell people the truth about your visit to National City? You have yourself believing the lies, and perhaps other people at the asylum, but tell people the truth. You rant and rave but ignore facts. I am sure your Ex-wife got tired of the rants and lies also. That why you sued her? Or is it that you changed sides when you went away. Changed to a switch hitter? Or just change teams completly. So tell people the truth Willie. What did you do at National City, Exactly! Stop the lies. You act like a little bitch. You were not innocent. I want people to hear it from your lips (and not the lower ones). So tell them the truth or I will have to post it. Do all the smears you want, but people will not respect you until you tell them the truth. Just tell them Willie. And don't say you went in with your $300,000 and they would not change the length of the loan. LIES WILLIE.
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#22 Consumer Comment

Abigal You have a case

AUTHOR: William A - (U.S.A.)

Abigal,

Unless you are a prostitute, you have got willie here by the short and curlies. Per US law Slander is defined into 4 categories.
The four (4) categories of slander per se are (i) accusing someone of a crime; (ii) alleging that someone has a foul or loathsome disease; (iii) adversely reflecting on a person's fitness to conduct her business or trade; and (iv) imputing serious sexual misconduct (especially the chastity of a woman). Once again, all you would have to prove is that someone had published the statement to a third party. No proof of special damages is required.

Now Libel needs another set of rules to go after someone. Under United States law, libel generally requires five key elements. The plaintiff must prove that the information was published, the plaintiff was directly or indirectly identified, the remarks were defamatory towards the plaintiff's reputation, the published information is false, and that the defendant is at fault.

Our Man Willie has done all of the above. If you are innocent, then go for it. He has an extra $300,000 sitting around that he wants to give you. Under US law it is yours. All his screaming and lies can not save him. It didn't save him went he went after a comic book dealer, and if you want to get even then go after him here. I am sure I can raise the money to get a lawyer, Oh wait, Willies old lawyer is looking to get even, I am sure he would do it for free. Right Willie!
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#23 Author of original report

ANOTHER NATIONAL CITY LOW-LIFE BANKER RISES TO THE OCCASION

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

Nobody cares what you think. You just ramble on with nothing but gibberish. Most people know I speak the truth because NATIONAL CITY BANK has screwed more people than any other bank. Your bank SUCKS and so do YOU.
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#24 UPDATE Employee

Your ridiculous

AUTHOR: Bankworker123 - (U.S.A.)

William,

Once again, no one here is name calling or what not. You can call me whatever you want, ANYTHING slimeball, greasy, slob, whatever you want, you are the kind of person that we say "wow some people" about. I have some news for you go ahead and google, say bank of america, sun trust and you will find just as bad if not worse comments. It would be impossible for you to find information on Abby because you dont know her last name, you dont know anything about her, and shes right it is slander to put false information on there. you are abusive and childish in your ways. I can just hear you thinking about how your gonna talk about spitting on my face or something right now, I DONT CARE, and no you dont p*ss anyone off. Just annoy people really. Im sure this Dave that you speak of certainly doesnt work for us, based on your personality im sure you did go to every single bank and try to intimidate or act foolish.

The bottom line is you can say as much stuff as you want you can call names as much as you want, you can threaten as much as you want NO ONE CARES, we brush it off. No matter what you say, how you say it, or why you say it, no one cares, we go about our daily lives and work. You have yet to prove one valid point especially since your original post stated you went into a florida branch and then you say you didnt? lol at LEAST get your lies straight wait (what am I now, a slob, scum of the earth, ugly, pathetic? save it!).

In the end, National City wins this argument anyway, we are becoming PNC, what are you gonna say about them? The only way you would have anything bad to say about PNC is if you choose to come into one of the brances after words, right? Keyword you CHOOSE to, then you really wouldnt have any room to complain now would you?

In closing (and this is the last time I am signing on to this post, because its so pathetic and you clearly are an irrational boring person who likes to vent about their awful lives and tries to make other people feel bad-which we dont its quite comical actually), the number of people who have done nothing but back up national city and how ridiculous you are have done NOTHING more than completely devalue anything you said or may have been saying

Take it from someone who was been a manager, supervisor, customer service lead, in person and at call centers. No one cares about the rude words you say, the only thing we worry about is when your gonna hang up on us, or when you swear that third time we can hang up on you, or in the branch's case, when your gonna leave. Thats it....after that we have a good laugh at your ignorance and go home.

Give it up, no one cares.

Again, im not signing back on to this post (go ahead call me scum, chicken, etc) I dont care, I wont be on here to read it :)
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#25 Author of original report

DEAR ABBY

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

Abigail, my dear...the truth hurts, doesn't it???
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#26 Author of original report

DEAR ABIGAIL

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

Hey "Abby", if anyone is guilty of libel or slander, it is YOU. You are a prime example of an insolent little tart who needs to be fired from the banking industry. I stand 100% behind the previous comments that I made about you.
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#27 Author of original report

MESSAGE TO NATIONAL CITY ABIGAIL OF VICKSBURG, MI

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

The simple fact that you are a prostitute who also works for National City Bank does not constitute libel or slander on my behalf, "Abby".
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#28 Author of original report

MESSAGE TO NATIONAL CITY ABIGAIL OF VICKSBURG, MI

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

The simple fact that you are a prostitute who also works for National City Bank does not constitute libel or slander on my behalf, "Abby".
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MESSAGE TO NATIONAL CITY ABIGAIL OF VICKSBURG, MI

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

The simple fact that you are a prostitute who also works for National City Bank does not constitute libel or slander on my behalf, "Abby".
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MESSAGE TO NATIONAL CITY ABIGAIL OF VICKSBURG, MI

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

The simple fact that you are a prostitute who also works for National City Bank does not constitute libel or slander on my behalf, "Abby".
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#31 Author of original report

NATIONAL CITY BANK SUCKS!!!

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

Customers Disown National City in Mass Numbers


Record numbers of e-mails are being sent to the operators of this website promising not to do business with National City Bank or any of it's subsidiaries. Even some current customers report they have closed their accounts with National City in part due to the information presented on this website.

Here are some of the things you've told me:

"I thought I would share that you just lost national city a customer... after reading your similar experiences i decided to no longer bank with this particular company."

"I am a NCB customer of many years....why I maintain this relationship I don't know."

"I would have to agree fully, I had a loan through them for my van, and I was one month behind, just one, and they repoed my van... They are full fledge jerks."

"I thought that our son had made this website, the stories are so similar."

"I cannot believe I found this website! Finally ,there are other people out there that think the same thing of National City."

Have you closed your account after seeing this site, or decided not to do business with National City Bank? Tell us why you have decided to leave and how many accounts you closed. Indicate whether they were business or personal accounts. We may feature quotes from your e-mail above.

Send an e-mail to account-closed@fucknationalcity.com.


Welcome to Fuck National City Bank Online

If you are considering opening an account with National City Bank, do your self a favor and avoid doing so at all costs. National City is one of the nation's largest banks, and they hire some of the best liars in the world to work for them [they put these people in a department known as 'marketing'] and some of the dumbest people in the world as well [they put these ones in a department called 'customer service'].

If you like people who play with your money, make mistakes all the time and don't give a damn, then you'll love National City Bank of Indiana and you should do your best to get an account at the South Bend Central Branch, since they're so good at all of the above.

But if you value your sanity and don't like waking up and finding your bank account is overdrawn because of someone else's' screw-ups, you'll want to stay as far away from this bank as you can get.
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#32 UPDATE Employee

Do you realize...

AUTHOR: Abigail - (U.S.A.)

That by posting inaccurate information about individuals on this website you are held responsible for LIBEL and SLANDER, which is a criminal offense?
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#33 Author of original report

AND STILL TWO MORE NATIONAL CITY SCUM EMPLOYEES RISE TO THE OCCASION!

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

Concerning the last two rebuttals, these are no doubt, TWO more SLIME-BALL employees (probably managers or executives) trying in vain to discredit me for smearing the already irreparably tarnished reputation of their SCUMMY bank.

It is now visibly clear how burning mad I have made these CON-ARTISTS.

The clown who insists that the rates are non-negotiable, forgets the fact that ANY bank can (and DID in this case) negotiate a CD rate.

And we can all laugh at this SLOB, "DAVID", who claims to be from Ft. Pierce which is VERY FAR from where I live, and further claims that I tried to negotiate a CD for $75,000.00 in his bank and became irate and slammed my fist when they refused to negotiate...WHAT A CONSUMMATE HORSE'S ASS!!! I LOVE IT!!!

First off, MEATHEAD, you never even named your bank, and that's because I visited no other local banks about my CD. YOU work for National City Bank...plain and simple, as does the simpleton who posted the rebuttal immediately previous to yours.

And second, you SLOB, $75,000.00 is spit in the bucket compared to the sum that I negotiated with National City and ultimately was successful in obtain an even HIGHER rate at a VERY RESPECTED out of state bank whose name I shall not mention because it's nobody's damn business, least of all National City's.

Finally, I will continue to berate and smear your SCUMMY bank and its ROTTEN, CON-ARTIST employees, over and over and over again, and will take you SLOBS on one at a time!

THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL AND TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN ABOUT THE DIRTIEST BANK IN THE NATION'S HISTORY...NATIONAL CITY BANK!
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#34 Author of original report

AND STILL TWO MORE NATIONAL CITY SCUM EMPLOYEES RISE TO THE OCCASION!

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

Concerning the last two rebuttals, these are no doubt, TWO more SLIME-BALL employees (probably managers or executives) trying in vain to discredit me for smearing the already irreparably tarnished reputation of their SCUMMY bank.

It is now visibly clear how burning mad I have made these CON-ARTISTS.

The clown who insists that the rates are non-negotiable, forgets the fact that ANY bank can (and DID in this case) negotiate a CD rate.

And we can all laugh at this SLOB, "DAVID", who claims to be from Ft. Pierce which is VERY FAR from where I live, and further claims that I tried to negotiate a CD for $75,000.00 in his bank and became irate and slammed my fist when they refused to negotiate...WHAT A CONSUMMATE HORSE'S ASS!!! I LOVE IT!!!

First off, MEATHEAD, you never even named your bank, and that's because I visited no other local banks about my CD. YOU work for National City Bank...plain and simple, as does the simpleton who posted the rebuttal immediately previous to yours.

And second, you SLOB, $75,000.00 is spit in the bucket compared to the sum that I negotiated with National City and ultimately was successful in obtain an even HIGHER rate at a VERY RESPECTED out of state bank whose name I shall not mention because it's nobody's damn business, least of all National City's.

Finally, I will continue to berate and smear your SCUMMY bank and its ROTTEN, CON-ARTIST employees, over and over and over again, and will take you SLOBS on one at a time!

THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL AND TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN ABOUT THE DIRTIEST BANK IN THE NATION'S HISTORY...NATIONAL CITY BANK!
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AND STILL TWO MORE NATIONAL CITY SCUM EMPLOYEES RISE TO THE OCCASION!

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

Concerning the last two rebuttals, these are no doubt, TWO more SLIME-BALL employees (probably managers or executives) trying in vain to discredit me for smearing the already irreparably tarnished reputation of their SCUMMY bank.

It is now visibly clear how burning mad I have made these CON-ARTISTS.

The clown who insists that the rates are non-negotiable, forgets the fact that ANY bank can (and DID in this case) negotiate a CD rate.

And we can all laugh at this SLOB, "DAVID", who claims to be from Ft. Pierce which is VERY FAR from where I live, and further claims that I tried to negotiate a CD for $75,000.00 in his bank and became irate and slammed my fist when they refused to negotiate...WHAT A CONSUMMATE HORSE'S ASS!!! I LOVE IT!!!

First off, MEATHEAD, you never even named your bank, and that's because I visited no other local banks about my CD. YOU work for National City Bank...plain and simple, as does the simpleton who posted the rebuttal immediately previous to yours.

And second, you SLOB, $75,000.00 is spit in the bucket compared to the sum that I negotiated with National City and ultimately was successful in obtain an even HIGHER rate at a VERY RESPECTED out of state bank whose name I shall not mention because it's nobody's damn business, least of all National City's.

Finally, I will continue to berate and smear your SCUMMY bank and its ROTTEN, CON-ARTIST employees, over and over and over again, and will take you SLOBS on one at a time!

THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL AND TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN ABOUT THE DIRTIEST BANK IN THE NATION'S HISTORY...NATIONAL CITY BANK!
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#36 Author of original report

AND STILL TWO MORE NATIONAL CITY SCUM EMPLOYEES RISE TO THE OCCASION!

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

Concerning the last two rebuttals, these are no doubt, TWO more SLIME-BALL employees (probably managers or executives) trying in vain to discredit me for smearing the already irreparably tarnished reputation of their SCUMMY bank.

It is now visibly clear how burning mad I have made these CON-ARTISTS.

The clown who insists that the rates are non-negotiable, forgets the fact that ANY bank can (and DID in this case) negotiate a CD rate.

And we can all laugh at this SLOB, "DAVID", who claims to be from Ft. Pierce which is VERY FAR from where I live, and further claims that I tried to negotiate a CD for $75,000.00 in his bank and became irate and slammed my fist when they refused to negotiate...WHAT A CONSUMMATE HORSE'S ASS!!! I LOVE IT!!!

First off, MEATHEAD, you never even named your bank, and that's because I visited no other local banks about my CD. YOU work for National City Bank...plain and simple, as does the simpleton who posted the rebuttal immediately previous to yours.

And second, you SLOB, $75,000.00 is spit in the bucket compared to the sum that I negotiated with National City and ultimately was successful in obtain an even HIGHER rate at a VERY RESPECTED out of state bank whose name I shall not mention because it's nobody's damn business, least of all National City's.

Finally, I will continue to berate and smear your SCUMMY bank and its ROTTEN, CON-ARTIST employees, over and over and over again, and will take you SLOBS on one at a time!

THE TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL AND TRUER WORDS WERE NEVER SPOKEN ABOUT THE DIRTIEST BANK IN THE NATION'S HISTORY...NATIONAL CITY BANK!
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#37 Consumer Comment

Doing business with William

AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

This report is bogus. I work for another bank down the street from this one, and we too had William show up and make a scene. What's interesting is this isn't the story we were presented with. After William demanded to speak to a manager, he began waving some piece of paper around yelling that he had very competitive bids for his 'substantial' CD from National City and he was going to grace us with the opportunity to make a counterbid. He wasn't happy with being given our rate sheet and being told that we do not 'bid' on CD rates; they are what they are. He began yelling even more and even slammed his hand on the desk so hard several other customers turned around to see what the disturbance was. William only left after we threatened to call the police. Of course he got the last word by saying we'd be hearing from his lawyer, accountant, and Channel 12. Best laugh we had all week.

Let me offer up a few points on why this report is bogus:
1. William is an aggressive rate-shopper, nothing wrong with that, but he clearly has a very high opinion of himself and his meager funds (see #2).
2. Sorry to burst your ego William, but even if banks did bid on rates, $75,000 is nowhere near 'substantial.' It might be a lot of money to you, but that's a very small account in the banking world. There is a CD product that tends to have favorable rates and very short timeframes (like 0.5% higher and 7 days til maturity). These are called Jumbo CDs and typically require at least a million to start playing with the big boys.
3. As others have indicated, favorable rates don't go to he with the most money in a single product; they go to customers with whom we have a higher percentage of wallet. That is, they also have a checking and savings account, a credit card, maybe a mortgage. Banks, like other businesses, exist to make money. As such they will extend more favorable terms to customers that they make more money on. Why would they ever agree to open a CD at a rate that would make them nothing, or even cost them money if the customer did not provide any other sources of revenue?
4. William won't give his full name despite giving the full names of the other employees. I have his full name from when he came in to our branch. Maybe it should be posted here so other banks can know to not even attempt to have a conversation with him?
5. Since apparently National City refused to do business with him, or he walked out or whatever, there's no way he could have had a sheet of 'bids' to wave around in our faces.

It's clear to me that this report exists only to be vindictive against the unfortunate employees who were around when Hurricane William showed up. There is no rip off here, other than the 15 minutes of our lives we'll never get back from having to deal with this individual.
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#38 Consumer Comment

Some comments...

AUTHOR: Striderq - (U.S.A.)

First of all: I do not now and never have worked for or in any way been affiliated with NC or PNC, so don't try to dismiss this report by saying I am.

Secondly: By your responses and the use of name calling in them, I don't believe that the office visit referred to in your OP was as congenial as you would have us believe. You went in expecting the moon and when you didn't get it you got upset and started calling names. That's a sure fire way to not get what you want. I understand that you want the best return possible for opening a CD. You need to understand that your expectation as to the rate apparently was unreasonable and could not be met. Probably didn't get it at any other bank either as you haven't stated that you were successful in getting what you wanted. Please remember that when you do business with a company, it's fine to want the moon but sometimes you have to settle for less, something that complies with the business' policies.

Best of luck to you in the future.
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#39 Author of original report

ANOTHER NATIONAL CITY LOW-LIFE BANKER RISES TO THE OCCASION

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

First of all, let me give YOU a first of all, you stupid idiot. No one ranted, raved, yelled, or screamed at that Boca Raton branch, so let's just establish that little fact right here and now. Second of all, who the hell do you think YOU are??? You are nothing but another low-life, scummy drone who works for this pathetic bank, and gets a bonus for sticking up for it on the net. Your employees are the rudest of the rude. That's an undisputed FACT. Check Google complaints and my point is well proven. If you were in front of me right now, you piece of human garbage, I would spit right in your ugly face. And NO ONE will disagree with what I am saying about your bank, other than a current employee, or a fool who just doesn't know any better. Lastly, sorry to disappoint you, you dimwitted slob, but Abigail IS a prostitute. I have thoroughly researched the matter. Your bank is KNOWN for hiring fraudulent con-artists and individuals of questionable character and moral turpitude. And that's another FACT. I hope you all rot in hell for what you are doing to people, and your rude behavior will NOT be tolerated! I will continue my all-out campaign against this dishonest, fraudulent bank and its slimeball employees!
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#40 UPDATE Employee

K first of all

AUTHOR: Bankworker123 - (U.S.A.)

First of all, William, the way your report sounds is like a child who didnt get their way. Also, you butchered the names of the two individuals other than FL staff as I know them personally.

I work in one of our sales areas and can tell you that if you would have treated me half the way you treated them you would have been hung up on very quickly. Neither me or other people will tolerate that kind of rude behaviour. yelling and screaming over a cd rate? thats non negotiable. under VERY rare circumstances do they make small rate exceptions which she bent over backwards to do for you and still....not good enough for you, you wanted more, of course she renigged on the offer.

Try to remember something, William you get what you give. As the previous persons stated it doesnt matter how much your putting in with a bank, the rates are the rates you are treated the same way as any other customer. Also, re the PNC buyout its a wonderful thing and they are more than impressed with the high quality and talent of the employees of national city. i could go on and on about the numerous awards we received. National City and PNC have been talking about merging for a while and it finally happened. They were in business since 1854 and originated the first mortgage in the united states, so obviously they were doing something right.

For you to take the time to go on and rant and rave about this and have the nerve to call it a rip off? thats just sad. You didnt get your way, get over it, please please please take your business elsewhere. i have seen branch managers close accounts and ban customers for being rude to tellers, your lucky they didnt refuse your business right then and there.

As far as scum of the earth, regardless of who you are or who we are, we are all human beings, and it is rude and unethical to the human race to speak to people the way you did.

Also, do you really think anyone bought that garbage about what you supposedly found about Abigail in Vicksburg? You had her first name, big deal. But National City does extensive background checks on their employees and no one with that record would even have a chance at working there.

I feel sorry for the bank that gives you the privelidge of being their customer I really do.
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#41 Author of original report

RE: ABIGAIL OF NATIONAL CITY BANK, VICKSBURG, MI

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

I HAVE DONE SOME INVESTIGATING ON "ABIGAIL" OF NATIONAL CITY BANK, WHO POSTED THE ABOVE REBUTTAL TO MY ORIGINAL COMPLAINT. NOT ONLY DOES SHE HAVE A CRIMINAL RECORD FOR PROSTITUTION, BUT I HAVE IT ON GOOD SOURCE THAT SHE HAS STILL BEEN KNOWN TO SOLICIT MONEY FROM SOME OF HER BANK CLIENTELE, IN EXCHANGE FOR SEXUAL FAVORS.
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#42 Author of original report

NATIONAL CITY BANK LOWLIFE SCUM EMPLOYEES IMPERSONATING WILLIAM AVRICH ON THIS SITE

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

AND JUST TO RESPOND TO THOSE IDIOTS WHO THOUGHT I WAS BEING UNREASONABLE, KNOW THIS: I WAS GUARANTEED...THAT'S RIGHT, GUARANTEED, A CD RATE OF 4.75% BY THE BOCA RATON REGIONAL MANAGER DEBBIE ORR, WHO THEN RENEGGED BECAUSE I INQUIRED ABOUT LOCKING THIS RATE IN FOR 18 MONTHS RATHER THAN 13 MONTHS (WE ARE TALKING A VERY SUBSTANTIAL SIX FIGURE AMOUNT OF MONEY HERE), AND WHEN I DID SO, BOCA RATON BRANCH MANAGER REBECCA AIRGOOD BECAME INSOLENT AND QUARRELSOME WITH ME, AFTER I COMPLAINED THAT I WAS WAITING AT HER DESK IN THE BRANCH LOBBY FOR TWO HOURS, WAITING FOR DEBBIE ORR TO CALL HER BACK AND APPROVE THE RATE. EVERY SINGLE EMPLOYEE I HAVE MENTIONED IN MY COMPLAINT, I HAVE ALSO SPOKEN WITH, AND THEY WERE RUDE, NASTY, SCUM-OF-THE-EARTH SLIME-BALLS, TYPICAL OF NATIONAL CITY BANK'S EMPLOYEE ROTTEN ATTITUDE. THANKFULLY, THESE SLOBS WON'T BE AROUND MUCH LONGER BECAUSE WORD HAS IT THAT PNC WILL BE CLEANING HOUSE AND FIRING ALL THE SCUM WHO WORK FOR NATIONAL CITY BANK. GOOGLE THIS BANK AND YOU WILL SEE THAT MINE IS BUT ONE OF MANY COMPLAINTS AGAINST THEM. THIS IS WITHOUT A DOUBT, THE WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE BANK IN U.S. HISTORY!
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#43 Author of original report

THE INDIVIDUAL SIGNED IN AS "WILLIAM A." IS A PHONY, IMPERSONATING ME

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

OBVIOUSLY, YOU ARE ONE OF THE SLIMEBALL NATIONAL CITY BANK EMPLOYEES OR THEIR ASSOCIATE, TRYING TO GET EVEN BY POSTING A REBUTTAL IN MY NAME. YOU HAVE JUST PROVED MY POINT AS TO HOW DESPICABLE MOST OF THIS BANK'S EMPLOYEES ARE. THE REST OF YOU WHO HAVE ALL CHIMED IN WITH YOUR REBUTTALS ARE LIKEWISE, SCUMBAGS AND CON-ARTISTS WHO ARE PROBABLY BEING PAID BONUSES TO DEFEND THE HORRIBLE REPUTATION YOUR EMPLOYER, NATIONAL CITY BANK, ALREADY HAS. NOTHING YOU CAN SAY OR DO WILL EVER CHANGE THAT. YOUR BANK IS CURRENTLY BEING BOUGHT OUT BY PNC FINANCIAL SERVICES, BECAUSE EVERYTHING ABOUT YOUR BANK IS A TOTAL, DISMAL FAILURE. YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THE AMERICAN BANKING INDUSTRY. GOOD LUCK TO PNC TO TRY AND TURN THINGS AROUND. THE FIRST OBVIOUS STEP WOULD BE TO IMMEDIATELY FIRE ALL PREVIOUS EMPLOYEES OF NATIONAL CITY BANK, MOST OF WHOM ARE UNETHICAL, UNPROFESSIONAL SLOBS. YOU PEOPLE ARE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF LOUSY CON-ARTISTS. I BELIEVE THAT THIS WAS A PREREQUISITE FOR YOUR BEING HIRED IN THE FIRST PLACE.
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#44 Author of original report

PHONY SLOB EMPLOYEES OF NATIONAL CITY BANK IMPERSONATING WILLIAM AVRICH

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

To the National City Bank employee who is impersonating me by signing on as "William A.", you are a phony and a coward. If you have an issue with my reporting you and your scummy bank practices, why don't you just come to my home address since you apparently know it, and deal with me personally? Everything I originally stated in my complaint is 100% true, and as to you slobs who are trying to twist the facts around by distorting them to make me appear to be unreasonable, there are MANY others all across the country who have experienced similar issues with this unethical bank and its slimeball employees. This bank hires professional con-artists to commit fraud against its customers. I stand behind every word mentioned in my complaint.
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#45 Author of original report

PHONY SLOB EMPLOYEES OF NATIONAL CITY BANK IMPERSONATING WILLIAM AVRICH

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

To the National City Bank employee who is impersonating me by signing on as "William A.", you are a phony and a coward. If you have an issue with my reporting you and your scummy bank practices, why don't you just come to my home address since you apparently know it, and deal with me personally? Everything I originally stated in my complaint is 100% true, and as to you slobs who are trying to twist the facts around by distorting them to make me appear to be unreasonable, there are MANY others all across the country who have experienced similar issues with this unethical bank and its slimeball employees. This bank hires professional con-artists to commit fraud against its customers. I stand behind every word mentioned in my complaint.
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#46 Author of original report

PHONY SLOB EMPLOYEES OF NATIONAL CITY BANK IMPERSONATING WILLIAM AVRICH

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

To the National City Bank employee who is impersonating me by signing on as "William A.", you are a phony and a coward. If you have an issue with my reporting you and your scummy bank practices, why don't you just come to my home address since you apparently know it, and deal with me personally? Everything I originally stated in my complaint is 100% true, and as to you slobs who are trying to twist the facts around by distorting them to make me appear to be unreasonable, there are MANY others all across the country who have experienced similar issues with this unethical bank and its slimeball employees. This bank hires professional con-artists to commit fraud against its customers. I stand behind every word mentioned in my complaint.
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#47 Author of original report

PHONY SLOB EMPLOYEES OF NATIONAL CITY BANK IMPERSONATING WILLIAM AVRICH

AUTHOR: Ourmanflint - (U.S.A.)

To the National City Bank employee who is impersonating me by signing on as "William A.", you are a phony and a coward. If you have an issue with my reporting you and your scummy bank practices, why don't you just come to my home address since you apparently know it, and deal with me personally? Everything I originally stated in my complaint is 100% true, and as to you slobs who are trying to twist the facts around by distorting them to make me appear to be unreasonable, there are MANY others all across the country who have experienced similar issues with this unethical bank and its slimeball employees. This bank hires professional con-artists to commit fraud against its customers. I stand behind every word mentioned in my complaint.
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#48 Consumer Comment

Calm Down William

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

The problem is that if National REALLY wanted to do business with you, they would have - substantial deposit or not (BTW - substantial deposit does not earn you any negotiating leverage with a bank; that leverage is gained through the different types of accounts you open - i.e. a business account where the bank earns fees from the business). As Abigail already mentioned, the rates for CD's are fixed and are not subject to negotiation. Yes, they made you wait. Yes, they were probably poor in the customer service department. But the underlying part of your complaint (they wouldn't negotiate with you) is true only to the extent that they're not allowed to negotiate with you.



In other words, that portion of your complaint is misleading and it seems clear that has led to the other comments that in any other venue would be slanderous. From what you've posted in your original post and subsequent rebuttal, I don't see anything here that would constitute a rip-off, other than character assassination...



Sorry William. Just take your money elsewhere and best of luck to you.
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#49 Consumer Comment

Tired of Everyone Putting Me Down = (((this rebuttal is bogus, not posted by the author of this report.)))

AUTHOR: William A - (U.S.A.)

Since I have posted my comments on National City I have received many rude and degrading statements about my character and state of mind. People also said it was cowardly to not post my name. I am tired of all this. I went into National City to get the best rate possible. Yes they gave me a low CD rate, but I wanted a better one on my terms. If they were going to give me a special rate why not an even better rate. I was there hours and wasted many hours. I even kept them past closing time trying to get my way. So there was no reason to be rude because I would not leave an hour after the doors were closed. That was not right, to take an attitude with me because I was yelling and causing a fuss, it was a lot of money I wanted to deposit.



And I am no coward. I spent time in prison and stand up for what I believe. The courts were wrong and my lawyer was only slightly worse than National City. I was innocent. And my name is William Avrich. If you have an issue with me, come get me losers, I am at ((REDACTED BOGUS INFO)) And if you have any balls call me and say those things to my face, my number is (((REDACTED))

Now leave me alone. If I feel I was treated badly by National City that is my opinion. I have sued a number of people because they have done me wrong. So keep up the mean words and I will find you and sue you also.
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#50 UPDATE Employee

Hmmm

AUTHOR: Chris - (U.S.A.)

And what is your full name, William? I think it is very rude to put the employees full names on here and then not add your full name.

National City has rates, they cannot change them for certain customers. If you are not happy with the rates, then by all means you do not have to open a cd with nc. Find a rate you are happy with.
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#51 UPDATE Employee

Listen..

AUTHOR: Abigail - (U.S.A.)

The CD rates are set in stone for NATIONAL CITY as a company. If you don't like the CD rates, go somewhere else. The branch manager cannot just go into the main system and give you a special CD rate just because you think you're better than everyone else with all of your fancy money.



It's people like you that make me sick. Just because you're old and stingy doesn't make you better than anyone else.
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#52 Consumer Comment

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AUTHOR: Ken - (U.S.A.)

How long ago did you get fired?
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