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Complaint Review: Nationwide Carriage Lines

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  • Submitted: Thu, March 14, 2013
  • Updated: Wed, July 09, 2014

  • Reported By: Barbara Wewahitchka FL — Wewahitchka Florida
Nationwide Carriage Lines
Fairlawn, NJ Hallandale, Florida United States of America

Nationwide Carriage Lines LBD Worldwide Mover Major Moving Company Scam on the Internet Hallandale, Florida

*Author of original report: Delivery One Year Later

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: my respond

*Consumer Comment: Need info about Isaac Zait, Itzhak Nino

*Consumer Comment: Matter Still Open?

*Consumer Comment: Scam Artists

*Author of original report: Isaac Zait, Isaac Ninio, Itzhak Ninio Aliases

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On October 12, 2012, I received a phone call from Mike Rogers of Nationwide Carriage Lines in Hallandale, FL in reference to my query on moving services online.  Mike offered to pick and deliver our household goods for $1700 on October 17, 2012.  We verbally agreed and sent a deposit of $547 via Paypal to Relocation Services.  I was contacted by Isaac Ninio who said he was our driver for pick up and he made an appointment for 11 am on October 16th, even though Mike Rogers said they would pick up on October 17th.  Isaac Ninio and Jerry Zisman arrived in a Budget Rental Truck at 9 am on Tuesday, Oct. 16th.  They said they needed half down in cash and the balance on delivery in cash.  They weighed the truck after loading it and said ... wow .. the weight is over 12,000 lbs and it would cost $4600 to deliver.  We gave them $700 in cash and said we would deposit $1000 in their checking account the next day. 

We left after the truck left but could not find a Wells Fargo bank in our area in upstate New York.  We drove as far as New Jersey before we found a Wells Fargo.  We deposited $1000 by check.  We told Isaac that we deposited the money and he called us back saying that the bank would not release the funds because we deposited a check.   This began a course of harrassment and threats from Isaac Ninio and Jerry Zisman.  I gave them my debit card to take money out, and instead, they tried to purchase hotel rooms in Fairlawn, NJ with my card.  My bank immediately sent an alert and refused payment.

I called Isaac and told him that my debit card was cut in half at my bank because of fraud.  at this point, everything went to hell in a hand basket, including harrassing phone calls, war texts from Isaac, threats and empty promises to deliver our goods.  They kept needing more money because they were stuck without cash due to their bank withholding monies for insufficient check charges.  We deposited cash in their banking account in Panama City, FL -- we gave them a total of $3900 and have not --- five months later --- received our household good, but were assured by Amos Bretter, who claimed to be Isaac's boss, that our goods were safe in a container in a warehouse in New Jersey. No response from any of the people we spoke with - Sebastian, Vanessa, Josh Pogue, Amos Bretter, Eric, Mike Rogers, LBD Worldwide, Voyager Van Lines, Nationwide Carriage Lines, Relocation Services, or the new company who bought out Nationwide, Allied Moving.  

Beware of internet scams with moving your personal stuff.  These guys are major rip offs and change names like a harlot changes hair color.  We have no idea where our stuff is, we have paid an exhorbitant amount of money and our stuff only went from Bath, NY to Fairlawn, NJ --- still haven't seen it --- five months later.


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#1 Author of original report

Delivery One Year Later

AUTHOR: Barbara Wewahitchka FL - ()

After 11 months, 28 days, our goods were finally delivered  -- but for the additional price of $1100.00 cash.  Some items were damaged.  Some items were missing all together.  And some items were not even ours.  In order to get our stuff back, we had to call the police department in New York where the goods were initially picked up and then the FBI became involved.  What a nightmare.  This was the absolute worst service and expensive, to boot!  Our original monies -- $3900 -- was supposedly stolen by Issac Zait (we were told by Amos Bretter) so we had to pay an additional $1100 for the delivery.  Ridiculous.  

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

my respond

AUTHOR: isaac zait - ()

 it is very easy to go online and dirty sombodys name. the lady who wrote this report forgot to mantion a few details. she forgot to tell you that when we came to pick up the "few boxes" she told the sales rep she had, we found a full garage, that was filled to the top with boxes that belong to her late sisiter, and like vulchers, trhey were going through her things,, and did not even bother to tell us how much stuff she really want to move. sge forgot to mention that we packed everything for her without charging a penny. she also forgot to mention that we were helping them doing things around the house has nothing to do with our moving job. the weigh of the truck we giving to her, and she account number as well, since we anderstood that she did not have the money to pay, and did not put any presuure on her. the delivey part is not my job. her belongings were giving to the werehouse at the company she contracted with, and we moved on to do other jobs. the story with credit card is nothing but her imagination or her determination to dirty ines name, even if she needs to make things up.

we did call her a few times about the deposit, since we gave a recipt saying that she paid, and we wanted to make sure dshe will pay. so when autoshop do that, its ok, when construction workers do that , its ok but when mover asking for the money, somehow its a crime, or a rip off.   the company that moved her is the one responsible to deliver her, and not the workers who works for that company..

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#3 Consumer Comment

Need info about Isaac Zait, Itzhak Nino

AUTHOR: jumpfree - ()

 Hi.  Has this been resolved?  I ask because this man has moved into the house where I live in here in NJ and the complaints raise many concerns about his character.  My children visit this home and I refuse to share my space with a criminal...BUT...the internet can be misleading.  Is he a criminal as the internet seems to indicate or is this, as Isaac (Itzhak) exclaims, a misunderstanding?  I mean, if its true that in 15 years at 700 jobs per year, there are only a handful of complaints about him, then perhaps HE is the vicitim. 

I need to know.  I need your help.  Tell me about him.  In exchange, he has agreed to let me serve as mediator and address any issue/customer complaint with the intent of resolution.  PLEASE contact me at jumpfree11@gmail.com asap.  Lets get to work.

 

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#4 Consumer Comment

Matter Still Open?

AUTHOR: jumpjitsu - ()

Terrible stories.  Question - did you ultimately get your things back?   

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#5 Consumer Comment

Scam Artists

AUTHOR: Worst Movers Ever - ()

I was scammed by LBD Worldwide Shipping and Isaac Zait as well.  Here is a picture of his lovely mugshot from his arrest in western PA (the charge apparently stems from a warrant for his arrest in another state.)

Isaac Zait mugshot:

http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Pennsylvania/Westmoreland-County-PA/Isaac-Z-Zait.28258660.html

Funny, after my debacle of a move with "LBD", I was told Isaac was "fired".

Your stuff is likely located in a warehouse at 200 Keen St., Paterson NJ 07524.  Amos Bretter has run multiple now defunct moving businesses out of that warehouse from what I can tell.  I would go to your local police dept and see if you can get an escort to the premises to see if they can locate your stuff.

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#6 Author of original report

Isaac Zait, Isaac Ninio, Itzhak Ninio Aliases

AUTHOR: Barbara Wewahitchka FL - ()

Isaac Zait, Isaac Z. Ninio, Isaac Ninio, Itzhak Ninio -- are all aliases of a man who holds himself out to be a legitimate moving man and company.  Company names of this erstwhile businessman are LBD World Wide, Voyager Van Lines, Magic Moving, Nationwide Carriage Lines, Allied Moving, Allied, Nationwide, Jerry Zisman, Amos Bretter, Eric Ben, Mike Rogers, Sebastian (no known last name), Vanessa (no known last name), Relocation Services and/or Isaac Ninio, et als.

I write this addendum to initial report because these names could come up for anyone attempting to procure moving services, and these names should be red flags to BEWARE.  These people and companies have deceivingly professional web sites, but are scam artists.  Like vampires seeking blood, these people and fraud companies feast on family heirlooms and cherished treasures which they vow to protect 'like it was their own' and then refer to your belongings as 'garbage'.    I have hard copy proof from text messages from Isaac Ninio, et als, referring to our household goods and personal belongings, including beloved family treasures , as "garbage" that he didn't care about because he had to feed and take care of his 5 yr old son because of Hurricane Sandy.  One would think that he would have welcomed the opportunity to take his family out of NY and down to Florida where he would have been met with a happy group of friends and a home made meal.  That is what I promised him.  But instead, we got shafted because we trusted these idiots.

Amos Bretter, purportedly Isaac's boss, told us that Isaac Ninio was in jail for back child support after getting into an altercation with another customer who called the police and discovered outstanding warrants for Isaac .

I've called the Fairlawn Police Department, the Better Business Bureau, the New Jersey State Police, the attorney general's office, a local lawyer, and a local television station --- no body can help us get these scam artists for their criminal activities.

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