• Report: #131397

Complaint Review: Nationwide Cyber Systems

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  • Submitted: Tue, February 15, 2005
  • Updated: Sun, March 27, 2005

  • Reported By:Waterford Virginia
Nationwide Cyber Systems
6030 Hollywood Blvd, Suite 140, Hollywood, Florida U.S.A.

Nationwide Cyber Systems Another victim of Nationwide Cyber Systems' Ripoff Hollywood Florida

*Consumer Suggestion: As a truck driver, I saw the machines all the time in truck stops. Of course, people rarely, if ever, used them.

*Consumer Suggestion: Lawsuit - Everything was misrepresented, and the "Happy customers," given for positive feedback, were all paid shills.

*Consumer Suggestion: Spend first, think last? One wonders how the victims are able to raise the capital in the first place.

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Kim's report from Kingston, MO regarding Natiowide Cybersystems on this site describes our experience precisely. We responded to a TV ad and purchased 2 NCS machines after returning from a trip to Europe where public internet cafes/kiosks are widely available. While traveling, whether in the U.S. or elswhere, it is very nice to have access to the public internet and by all appearances looked like a good source of additional income.

After receiving the highly overpriced machines it took 6 months to get the 1st one located, but not without a lot of badgering of the same characters Kim mentioned. The $800-1300/month internet access income stated to us by Rick Osario during a phone conversation proved to be a real joke and gross misrepresentation, let alone the absense of any income or help in advertising. We were usually able to break even on expenses on one machine but the other machine NCS found a location for us is on par with other victim' experiences,--- a low rate, seedy hotel in the Baltimore area that has produced $9.00 of income in last 2 months. Both were located over 90 miles from our residence and anytime some problem as simple as a modem reset happens it's a long trip to figure out what's wrong. NCS is not there to provide any technical support. Other "out in the sticks" locations provided to us did not have DSL or ADSL availability and to bring broadband in via systems like DIRECTWAY are cost prohibative

The hotel management where the "best" machine WAS located requested it be removed as free internet service was being provided to all their customers in the rooms and via a free access terminal in the lobby. (Try to find a hotel/motel that doesn't provide internet access for customers. Mid level and above provide the service. That leaves only the low rent variety for these manchines.)

Now that machine sits in the garage and Nationwide Cyber Systems' phone is disconnected. Based on recent TV ads, it appears NCS has reincarnated itself as Transnet Wireless. I wonder what sort of laudatory Federal Trade Commission, Better Business Bureau, and financial statements Transnet Wireless provides. Bet it looks a lot like what NCS provided to prospective victims.

The best I'll probably be able to do is depreciate both machines quickly and/or MAYBE sell them to someone who wants to pay me 10% of what they cost. At least I might get something of a tax write-off.

Dale
Waterford, Virginia
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

As a truck driver, I saw the machines all the time in truck stops. Of course, people rarely, if ever, used them.

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

Long before I ever came to this site and read the complaints on this company, I saw the kiosks in truck stops. I actually used one several times.

However, now the truck stops are going to WIFI. That allows the users to surf right from their trucks, in the parking lot.

About the only people who would use the kiosk are the ones who have nothing. No PDA. No cell. No laptop.

I'll be honest, I'm not sure they make enough income to even justify the broadband connection. A few people do still use the machines, but by the time you pay for the connection, and a split of the income with the property, then what is left?

The idiot frauds should have gone with a wireless system. At least that would have been current. They could have sold WIFI hardware and locations just as well, if not better than these kiosks. I figure they're idiots.

Anyone who is planning to buy a business would be much better off by looking in their local newspaper. Businesses are for sale all the time. You have the advantage of walking in and seeing the whole show in action. In addition, you can work with the former owner long enough to get up to speed.

Personally, I'd feel much more comfortable with a proven commodity. Perhaps a little sandwich shop in a decent location. A small store. Perhaps a small electronics store. That kind of thing.
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#2 Consumer Suggestion

Lawsuit - Everything was misrepresented, and the "Happy customers," given for positive feedback, were all paid shills.

AUTHOR: Kim - (U.S.A.)

Dale,
If you haven't found the lawsuit against Nationwide, visit www.Kioskscams.com

It is a Rico suit, be sure and read the info on it.

As for Paul wondering how we afforded the business opportunity in the first place, ever heard of plastic? My husband and I thought we had researched this company thoroughly. They even scammed people who showed up to the company in person, and at least one lawyer that I know of.

As for all the "free internet." I have need of checking several things on the web daily. Until recently, I had no laptop, nor an internet capable pda. All I needed was 15 minutes on a machine--there were kiosks in Vegas at the conference center that fit the bill perfectly. I still think these kiosks will fit a need in certain markets, but not if the machine isn't backed by the company. Everything was misrepresented, and the "Happy customers," given for positive feedback, were all paid shills.
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

Spend first, think last? One wonders how the victims are able to raise the capital in the first place.

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

Sound business sense dictates that you investigate the business before you leap in. By investigate, I mean do something besides calling the frauds and accepting their version as gospel.

After all, they are trying to sell you something. That might tend to make them exaggerate the income potential just a wee bit, don't you think?

I don't know what's going on in Europe. I have a fear of airplanes, so I don't get out much.

But here, the vast majority of the country is wired. In fact, broadband access is quite common. People have their own internet at home. They don't need to sit in a kiosk and surf.

In addition, travelers have found wireless to be the way to go. The major players, like t-mobile, have a network of locations set up. Business travelers go to starbucks and surf the WIFI channel. Entire cities are considering WIFI. Free, and city-wide. How can you compete with that?

Then, there are web-enabled cell phones. Picture and text messaging. That cuts even further into the kiosk business.

Who are the potential customers for these kiosks? What are their demographics? Where are they to be found?

As you see, locations are providing their own internet for their customers. And, it's wired or WIFI, not a public access kiosk.

So, where does that leave the kiosk owners? Up a creek without a network line, I'd say.

Now, you see why they are unloading these boat anchors? The frauds can pick the machines up for cheap. They troll the backwaters, just waiting for a wide-eyed newbie looking for the opportunity of a lifetime. Certain TV shows have a proven history of providing just these kinds of people. Once the sucker takes the bait, the frauds know just how to reel in the money.

There are plenty of complaints you can file, though they are likely to return even less than the actual machines themselves. Perhaps, you can go to the kioskscams site and find an attorney to help you. Again, I'm not real optimistic over the thought of any return of your investment. But, who knows? People are struck and killed by lightening every year. It's worth a try.

As for selling the machines, all you need to do is find someone like yourself. Perhaps, you might try ebay. I'm sure there's bound to be a sucker, I mean investor, who's looking for the opportunity of a lifetime there. Present the machines just as they were presented to you. Then, cross your fingers and pray. Perhaps, god will have mercy on you after all.
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