• Report: #451478

Complaint Review: OTB Management - Scentura Creations With Bryan And Ericka

  • Submitted: Wed, May 13, 2009
  • Updated: Thu, June 04, 2009

  • Reported By:Pasadena Texas
OTB Management - Scentura Creations With Bryan And Ericka
825 Southmore Suite 206 Pasadena, Texas U.S.A.
  • Phone: 713-677-0197
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  • Category: Employers

OTB Management - Scentura Creations With Bryan And Ericka Offer an entry level management position and claim after 6-8 week program, you'll open an office!! Pasadena Texas

*UPDATE Employee: honestly

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Hey Earley! How about some honest answers!

*UPDATE Employee: owner maryland

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This so called office, OTB Management, is a branch of Larry Hahn's Scentura Creations. The 2 branch managers, Byan and Ericka, are what you call MOTIVATIONAL SPEAKERS. Here's my story..... I saw their ad on the Greensheet (also posted on Craig's list): OFFICES OPENING. HELP NEEDED ASAP. New branch looking to expand. Seeding 20-25 people to help with new offices in the field of customer service. Fun fast paced office. No experience needed. Will train. Positions filling fast. Call today! 713 677-0197. Anyhow I called and got the interview. On my first interview I noticed 6-8 people waiting for their interview. Bryan took us in by twos. Bryan BRIEFLY and QUICKLY explained about the business, and mentions Larry Hahn how he started with some $ he had saved and some borrowed on selling wholesale goods, such as refrigerators, stoves, microwaves, etc. After that he asked a few rate yourself on a scale of 1-10 over confidence, honesty, hardworking questions and interview was done. What I thought was funny after looking back was he (Bryan) never mentioned it would be a perfume industry that we would be "working" for.

On my 2nd interview, Bryan directed us to this room where they had about 30-35 of us. This interview took about 2 and a half hours where Bryan went a bit more into depth about the business. Here is where I learned we would be working with perfumes. Perfumes were briefly mentioned. Bryan mostly kept telling us how they were going to train us to become like he and Ericka, branch managers that would open other offices and have our own "crew". After going home that day, I started to do some research on OTB Management, but had A LOT of difficulty finding it. So after supposedly being "hired", I went back Monday May, 11 2009. After so many FLAGS I kept getting in my head from hearing Ericka talk and MOTIVATE us, I decided to go home and get the REAL information. I finally had the name Scentura Creations from a list of perfumes they handed out to us that they wanted us to try to sell. It was a contest that they claimed if we sold the MOST bottles would receive $800 BUT the group was to sell 170 bottles in order for that person to get the $800.

Once I did ALL the research on Larry Hahn and Scentura Creations, I was convinced that this is a PERFUME SCAM!

It's funny how the few family members I told about it were very skeptical about this. They tell you by the end of this 6-8 week training program you will sign a $30K contract that you're stuck with for a year. They also tell you there is NO SET HOURLY, WEEKLY PAYCHECKS. What does that really mean? You get CHUMP change for SELLING rendition perfumes!!! ITS A COMMISSION PAY! You will not sell much after customers begin to realize that these perfumes are not the real thing. The office atmosphere when you arrive is LOUD! They will have a stereo system bumping the young hip hop music before training or interviews start. They teach you about selling to FFAAR-family, friends, associates, acqaintainces, and relatives. They also tell you about these lavish vacations/meetings you get to take! BE AWARE everyone in Pasadena and surrounding areas!!! Bryan and Ericka have their MOTIVATION SPEECHES prepared! They know exactly what to say to you and go around what you ask of them. Please everyone do a research on this!!!

Good luck to all of you out there looking for a job. DO NOT FALL FOR THEIR SCAM!!!

Pasadena, Texas

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#1 UPDATE Employee


AUTHOR: Mdwethebest - (U.S.A.)

First of all let me introduce myself my name is Earley Gaynor alot has changed since my above post. I been open in my own office for about 3 months so I can only talk what I have experienced with the company Im not anyone amazing I just stuck with the company threw thick and thin. I Have just won the Rising Star award for my office we have went straight from nothing to the #4 office in the country. We are the #1 office on the east coast when it comes to rookies. Jasmine, and Terika are my partners and we are going to become the rookies of the year just from working hard and just dong the business correctly by being honest with people and telling the truth and Im not going to stop Now with this guy Noah who is above me with his little post that he keeps on posting every where so ill answer the questions he keeps asking but even when I do answer the questions at the end of the day it wont change anything about the company in his mind and the only thing he can do is write negitive s**t on the internet because he is bitter that he is broke with no job Lol Noah why dont you have a job? If u did have a job you wouldnt have time to be posting stuff on the internet all day. You Blow out's are funny you got nothing better to do then type on the internet but ill answer these small questions This is how my office does it

1.You asked why dont we give sales permits right ? First of all I give all of my car leaders[ which since u are a blow out u dont no what im talking about] the people who lead the cars have a sales permit for each car. Its licensed from p.g county legislation I had to get 12 of them all $100 a piece so that sales permit thing is a lie I dont no what rob and ricki did when u were there in chicago but let it go that was a while ago why are u so bitter lol ur funny blowout.
2.u asked why do we hold ffaar contest if were not going to really going to give out the money right. Easy I heard the same thing when I was in training and i seen so many people complaining about the contest that I was like when I get open Im not going to do that. Which means in my office we dont do a ffaar contest because we dont want people to think that we made it to the top by cheating or tricking people we do everything legit bottle for bottle. { i firgured the only way to change something is from within rather than bitching and complaining and thats what I did I got open and I run my office diffrently .
3.u asked y do we post ad's for recp- asst manager, this is also easy this is another thing that each individual owner can or cant do . Which I chose to do it diffrently and if u dont believe me come to dc and check out the washington post. My ad say's ELM entry level managers must love , money , music and fun no exp required
4.u asked why do we lie about how much u will make. I tell my people that they will make $100-250 a wk while they are in my training program and I promise them that if they work hard that they will get the same opportunity that I got where they can run their own office I am not any better than anyone I just wasnt weak like u noah I dont quit anything that I start all the company ever did was give me everything they said they would and whats funny is people like u are so quick to call this a scam but all they do is promise u an office and answer the question do u actually get an office in the end and then answer is yes ? Me and you both no that u actually get an office because in your ad u said that owners said they dont make no money lol no thats some funny s**t I made 11 thousand dollars last month and I am no better than anybody , I am 22 years old , a young black male and I am making this money legally/ Noah so go get a job cause u arent strong enough to run an office.Just to throw out some numbers real quick we sold 808 bottles last week we broke the rookie record right[ oh and check the record if u think Im lieing. We make $10 oer bottle so right there is 8080 dollars that week right there yeah we got to split the money but my business is still pulling in $8000 a wk in a recession most companys are folding and we are expanding were else can a young black man make that kind of money legally ? ANSWER MY QUESTION NOAH ? DONT U HERE ME TALKING TO U , U BLOW OUT ANSWER ME . I AM ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS BECAUSE IM TAKING OUT TIME MY DAY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS SO ALL I WANT IS ANSWERS LOL CUASE I NO U ARE ON THE COMPUTER RIGHT NOW TALKING ABOUT SCENTURA CAUSE YOUR OBSESSED WITH US UR JUST MAD THAT U WAS TO WEAK TO MAKE IT .
5.I dont promise company vacations again your judging scentura threw a blow outs point of view and your not noticing that we are all in diffrent org. we dont do that , this is the schott division we tell them the only way your going on a company trip is when u are an owner. By the way the company trip is Jun 19 2009 South Beach We are staying at the Hard Rocke Hotel Holl@
6.we call u names because u make me laugh noah u are really giving it your best shot at trying to stop people from working for us which is fine. Im not quiting for nobody its to much money to be made and its fun. I cant compare this to a job this is the most fun I have ever had in life @ 22 six figures aint nothing better. But really noah let it go stop writing neg stuff about the company u seem obsessed with rob- ricki and me and u dont even no me lol your probaly a nerd.
7.last question was why is there so many reports against the company.

First of all you have never seen anything up here about Earley or Selah Management thats the name of my business because we do things right in Lanham Md. Thats why we are going to be the rookies of the year cause we do right by the business and and by the people who come threw our doors. Most people stories are all the same they stayed for a couple of days and they quit and now there complaining about how the company didnt work for them well for 1 they said it will be a 6- 8 wk program and most of the people quit before 2nd interview. Ladies and gentleman kisa of all Ages The person Im talking to name is Noah he went threw a training program i chicago and he quit so he is asking questions and judging the company from a quitters perspective so if u are thinking about joining the company then talk to a real owner. Believe me I was not a scentura supporter at first but I wasnt negitive because i didnt no enough to be neg. So I wanted to see if I was really going to get an office and if I was , then I swore that I would give mstions or comments about scentura call me 301 577 6694 office number and 240 286 7471 how real is that I am an owner and Im leaving my name and number on the internet only for people who really want to no info or have questions or wanna no if it is real or whatever the case is NOAh I answered all your little questions so what are u going to b***h and complain about now about how rob and ricki scammed u give it a brake. the real definiton of scam is success comes after merching. I love the business and I love all the Owners thank you Larry Hohn for the opp. thank you donny and holly Ill make u proud Ill do the business correct I swear Peace and blessings see you guys at the top.
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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Hey Earley! How about some honest answers!

AUTHOR: Noah From Chicago - (U.S.A.)

Hello again Earley! We've had our back and forth and EVERY time you dance around the issues at hand to brag about how much money you make and others can make through your borderline criminal pyramid scheme tactics.

So for the 5th or 6th time, I implore you to give us some honesty!!!! Please answer the following questions.

1. Why do you send people out to sell on the streets without sales permits? You know it's illegal but you send people out anyway! When they get a ticket or a court date do you help them?

2. Why do you hold contests for large cash prizes and fail to deliver? You know it's true, you tell people that the ones who sell the most during FFAAR will get a generous cash prize (in my case $750) and lie to them the next day saying the group as a whole didn't sell enough.

3. Why do you post ads for receptionists and office help when that's not what the job entails? And don't try to tell me that you only advertise for management because you know that's BS.

4. Why do you lie about how much people will make during training? You tell people they can make hundreds a week but they don't. I've read countless accounts from people who worked for a Scentura branch for months and took home little to nothing. I even read accounts from owners that said the majority of what you make pays for the office and advertisements and you take home little to nothing in the end.

5. Why do you promise company vacations when you're really just making people sell in other towns? You know you make them pay for everything themselves and I'm sure you're familiar with the term room bottle.

6. Why do you call people such mindless, unprofessional and immature names like weak piece of s**t if they don't play into your deception? Earley you may remember calling me a f**king idiot for posting facts because you had no real response or intelligent answer for me

7. If this isn't a scam as you continue to claim. Why are there so many reports against this company? Also, why did the Better Business Bureau and an Illinois State ruling call Scentrua a multi-level selling company? Don't try saying that Ford, McDonalds and Wal-Mart have complaints against them too! These companies are at least upfront about their job duties, they pay their employees a steady paycheck and they don't try selling to random people in parking lots without the proper permits.

8. How do you sleep at night? This is a question of conscious so don't go bragging about how expensive your house, bed or car are because it's all from dirty money no matter how you look at it. I really don't understand how you guys live with yourselves by taking advantage of so many young professionals that are just trying to get ahead.

Here's your chance to come clean so don't try saying I'm not being fair!
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AUTHOR: Mdwethebest - (U.S.A.)

First off, let me introduce myself. My name is Earley Gaynor, I went through training a year and a half ago in middlesex, new jersey. When I first started I answered the ad just like everyone else. But unlike the other people that I started with, I stuck with it and I finished the program. When I started I was in Job Corp, I was broke and I had no plan in life. I went from job to job to job until finally I answered the ad, Donnie did my first interview and he gave me the opportunity of a lifetime. When I started I had to do some sales (just like everyone else) but instead of quitting, I had to work harder. Long story short I finished the program in ten weeks (two weeks shorter than my goal). I now run a location of my own in Lanham, Maryland, which means I am a promotion of Donnie and Holly's. I now do the same job that they do, I signed up to be a manager and that is exactly what I am. I didn't get in this to do sales (which no one does). Donnie told me that I could make 30K my first year in the first interview. But in my business in its first year, I made $82,000. I feel like I scammed Donnie. People who blow out in their first or second week obviously didn't understand the business. They give anyone, no matter what race,color,gender, or age, the same opportunity they gave me. Free merchandise, free training, (the day you have to pay for something should be a red flag for you no matter what business) and they also give you the opportunity to move to any state with a business for free. Like I said I went through training in New Jersey and I got the freedom to move to Maryland. Any person with a brain can look at all these negative letters and see that people run offices all over the country. So ask yourself, how did they get there? They got promoted there obviously. Running your own business isn't going to happen overnight, it takes more time and dedication to be successful in this and in any business. Anyone who says this is a pyramid scam or that you dont get promoted doesn't know what THE
F*** your talking about. Everyone has the exact same equal opportunity. All it takes to complete training is working hard( for yourself), dedication, and a little blind faith, believing that Donnie and Holly will get you open. I am so confident that I am going to leave my phone number (NOT FOR BLOWOUTS) but for people who actually want some advice on how to run a successful business for Scentura. 240-380-6157 or 240-330-7566. I have alot of respect for Donnie and Holly because if I was in the position, I wouldn't even bother running an office I would retire. They are great people and unbelievable promoting owners. I am 21 years old, I am black and I make decent money. Thanks to Larry Hohn for giving me the opportunity. When an opportunity like this comes your way it isn't about what someone else did or does for you but what you do with the opportunity yourself. See you at the top.
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