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  • Submitted: Wed, June 03, 2009
  • Updated: Thu, June 04, 2009

  • Reported By:pasadena Texas
OTB Management
Southmore St. Pasadena, Texas U.S.A.

OTB Management Scentura fragrances, bryan, erica, otb management, scam Pasadena Texas

*UPDATE Employee: owner

*UPDATE Employee: Ok so what made it a scam

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Ok so this is my warning to you fellow people out there looking for a job. And trust me...I feel for you.

So I frequently use the internet to look for a job and this Monday when I was looking for a job in Houston was no exception as I perused the listings on craigslist. I came across an ad that sounded exciting. An established company needed 20-25 people to help them expand their business. Unlike other ads they didn't want you to send a resume, they just wanted you to call. So I called just to see what was up. They immediately scheduled me for an interview, knowing NOTHING about me except my name and phone number. Beware people: real jobs want to know more about you than this if they are going to interview you. This was my first red flag, but the woman said they were located on the 2nd floor of the Allstate building in Pasadena. I figured that if they had a legitimate office then it couldn't be a scam.

So I showed up early to my interview and found it without a problem (Allstate building on southmore street 2nd floor suite 206). As soon as I enter the door everything is very strange. Loud music is playing and there are 5-6 other people filling out applications. I thought it was very strange that an "established" business would be so rude as to schedule so many interviews at once. However I went ahead and sat down and began to fill out my application. After I finished filling out my application and am waiting for my interview I look around the room and really take in this "office" there is an empty bookcase along one wall, a desk with a filing stack on it...and that was about it. I remember thinking to myself that this looked like a very poor imitation of a fake office. After sitting there for about 10 minutes a cross eyed guy named Bryan came out and began to take interviewees back 3 at a time. Again...something a real business would NEVER do. At this point I am ready to get out of there...it was all so fishy and strange, unlike any interview I had ever been to, but I am also curious to find out how they were going to try and scam us. So I stuck around to see how this "interview" went.

Bryan finally takes me back with my group to my interview and starts telling us about this company. He does a pretty good job of going over the history of the company making it sound legitimate. He asks us if we've heard of a man named Larry Hahn...of course no one has, but he acts surprised by this. Larry Hahn started this company refrigerators, stoves, etc...but after a number of years decided to invest 10.7 million dollars into the fragrance industry. He goes on to explain that this has been a multi-million dollar corporation ever since. huh...if they have so much money what are they doing in this dinky little office? It's also interesting to see that not only are there no computers in the waiting area, but none in Bryan's office either. There are nothing but empty desks and chairs. They will try to ease your concerns about this by saying that they have just moved from California 2 months ago. So the interview continues on to him asking us if we were interested in the receptionist position or the management position and not to worry about not having experience for the management position because they train everyone from the ground up. I personally was only interested in the receptionist position. He then asks if I am not hired for the receptionist position would I be willing to try for a management position. hmmm...so I'm not qualified for a receptionist position, but they would hire me as a manager? Again...not really making much sense. He goes on to make the manager position sound so pretty and wonderful, how much money we were going to make, etc...and he continues on to say that the receptionist position will be minimum wage starting out. I'm sorry but a multi million dollar company doesn't pay their receptionist minimum wage!

At this point I didn't care if the position was real or fake...I knew there was no way I would take something for minimum wage. But Brian was still chattering on so I didn't interrupt. After this the "interview" portion of this process started and he asked me to rate myself from 1-10 on how I get along with others. I start to say something...and realize I don't want to try to sell myself to this guy when I don't want the "position" he's offering. So I stand up and tell him that I'm sorry I don't mean to be rude, but I won't work for minimum wage. That along with all the other red flags jumping out at me from every corner made me run for the hills.

I walked out of the office feeling like this had been a complete waste of time and also slightly wishing I had stuck around long enough to see what exactly was going on there. I get home later that day and after telling my fiancee what a weird interview it was and how I walked out mid-interview...we started to google OTB management to see what it was all about.

And now I can be glad I left when I did because I still got to find out that it was a scam. Apparently if you finish the first interview and get called for a second one (EVERYONE gets called to a second one) they will start you on your unpaid training as a group of 30 people. To "motivate" you they will have a selling contest of their perfumes and this is where the scam lies. There is no actual perfume, you can only sell to your friends and family because they don't have a selling permit and therefore it would be illegal to sell to anyone else. Also there is less chance of getting caught this way I imagine. Please DONT fall for this SCAM! It's really awful for these scammers to be taking advantage of job seekers in this tough economic time. And karma comes around so I'm sure they will eventually be getting what they deserve.

Just think...if something sounds too good to be true. It probably is. I know it's hard and people's heads get clouded when they are looking for work...but use your instincts and trust me. You can smell this scam from a mile away! Don't get sucked in!

Jennifenifer
pasadena, Texas
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 06/03/2009 10:53 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/OTB-Management/Pasadena-Texas-77502/OTB-Management-Scentura-fragrances-bryan-erica-otb-management-scam-Pasadena-Texas-458383. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 UPDATE Employee

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AUTHOR: Mdwethebest - (U.S.A.)

First of all let me introduce myself my name is Earley Gaynor alot has changed since my above post. I been open in my own office for about 3 months so I can only talk what I have experienced with the company Im not anyone amazing I just stuck with the company threw thick and thin. I Have just won the Rising Star award for my office we have went straight from nothing to the #4 office in the country. We are the #1 office on the east coast when it comes to rookies. Jasmine, and Terika are my partners and we are going to become the rookies of the year just from working hard and just dong the business correctly by being honest with people and telling the truth and Im not going to stop Now with this guy Noah who is above me with his little post that he keeps on posting every where so ill answer the questions he keeps asking but even when I do answer the questions at the end of the day it wont change anything about the company in his mind and the only thing he can do is write negitive shit on the internet because he is bitter that he is broke with no job Lol Noah why dont you have a job? If u did have a job you wouldnt have time to be posting stuff on the internet all day. You Blow out's are funny you got nothing better to do then type on the internet but ill answer these small questions This is how my office does it


1.You asked why dont we give sales permits right ? First of all I give all of my car leaders[ which since u are a blow out u dont no what im talking about] the people who lead the cars have a sales permit for each car. Its licensed from p.g county legislation I had to get 12 of them all $100 a piece so that sales permit thing is a lie I dont no what rob and ricki did when u were there in chicago but let it go that was a while ago why are u so bitter lol ur funny blowout.
2.u asked why do we hold ffaar contest if were not going to really going to give out the money right. Easy I heard the same thing when I was in training and i seen so many people complaining about the contest that I was like when I get open Im not going to do that. Which means in my office we dont do a ffaar contest because we dont want people to think that we made it to the top by cheating or tricking people we do everything legit bottle for bottle. { i firgured the only way to change something is from within rather than bitching and complaining and thats what I did I got open and I run my office diffrently .
3.u asked y do we post ad's for recp- asst manager, this is also easy this is another thing that each individual owner can or cant do . Which I chose to do it diffrently and if u dont believe me come to dc and check out the washington post. My ad say's ELM entry level managers must love , money , music and fun no exp required
4.u asked why do we lie about how much u will make. I tell my people that they will make $100-250 a wk while they are in my training program and I promise them that if they work hard that they will get the same opportunity that I got where they can run their own office I am not any better than anyone I just wasnt weak like u noah I dont quit anything that I start all the company ever did was give me everything they said they would and whats funny is people like u are so quick to call this a scam but all they do is promise u an office and answer the question do u actually get an office in the end and then answer is yes ? Me and you both no that u actually get an office because in your ad u said that owners said they dont make no money lol no thats some funny shit I made 11 thousand dollars last month and I am no better than anybody , I am 22 years old , a young black male and I am making this money legally/ Noah so go get a job cause u arent strong enough to run an office.Just to throw out some numbers real quick we sold 808 bottles last week we broke the rookie record right[ oh and check the record if u think Im lieing. We make $10 oer bottle so right there is 8080 dollars that week right there yeah we got to split the money but my business is still pulling in $8000 a wk in a recession most companys are folding and we are expanding were else can a young black man make that kind of money legally ? ANSWER MY QUESTION NOAH ? DONT U HERE ME TALKING TO U , U BLOW OUT ANSWER ME . I AM ANSWERING YOUR QUESTIONS BECAUSE IM TAKING OUT TIME MY DAY TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS SO ALL I WANT IS ANSWERS LOL CUASE I NO U ARE ON THE COMPUTER RIGHT NOW TALKING ABOUT SCENTURA CAUSE YOUR OBSESSED WITH US UR JUST MAD THAT U WAS TO WEAK TO MAKE IT .
5.I dont promise company vacations again your judging scentura threw a blow outs point of view and your not noticing that we are all in diffrent org. we dont do that , this is the schott division we tell them the only way your going on a company trip is when u are an owner. By the way the company trip is Jun 19 2009 South Beach We are staying at the Hard Rocke Hotel Holl@
6.we call u names because u make me laugh noah u are really giving it your best shot at trying to stop people from working for us which is fine. Im not quiting for nobody its to much money to be made and its fun. I cant compare this to a job this is the most fun I have ever had in life @ 22 six figures aint nothing better. But really noah let it go stop writing neg stuff about the company u seem obsessed with rob- ricki and me and u dont even no me lol your probaly a nerd.
7.last question was why is there so many reports against the company.

First of all you have never seen anything up here about Earley or Selah Management thats the name of my business because we do things right in Lanham Md. Thats why we are going to be the rookies of the year cause we do right by the business and and by the people who come threw our doors. Most people stories are all the same they stayed for a couple of days and they quit and now there complaining about how the company didnt work for them well for 1 they said it will be a 6- 8 wk program and most of the people quit before 2nd interview. Ladies and gentleman kisa of all Ages The person Im talking to name is Noah he went threw a training program i chicago and he quit so he is asking questions and judging the company from a quitters perspective so if u are thinking about joining the company then talk to a real owner. Believe me I was not a scentura supporter at first but I wasnt negitive because i didnt no enough to be neg. So I wanted to see if I was really going to get an office and if I was , then I swore that I would give mstions or comments about scentura call me 301 577 6694 office number and 240 286 7471 how real is that I am an owner and Im leaving my name and number on the internet only for people who really want to no info or have questions or wanna no if it is real or whatever the case is NOAh I answered all your little questions so what are u going to bitch and complain about now about how rob and ricki scammed u give it a brake. the real definiton of scam is success comes after merching. I love the business and I love all the Owners thank you Larry Hohn for the opp. thank you donny and holly Ill make u proud Ill do the business correct I swear Peace and blessings see you guys at the top.
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Ok so what made it a scam

AUTHOR: Mdwethebest - (U.S.A.)

You people are funny u judge something b4 u even know what it is this is what I am going to do for you Im going to leave my story of what I have seen in scentura. My name is Earley Gaynor, I went through training a year and a half ago in middlesex, new jersey. When I first started I answered the ad just like everyone else. But unlike the other people that I started with, I stuck with it and I finished the program. When I started I was in Job Corp, I was broke and I had no plan in life. I went from job
to job to job until finally I answered the ad, Donnie did my first interview and he gave me the opportunity of a lifetime. When I started I had to do some sales (just like everyone else) but instead of quitting, I had to work harder. Long story short I finished the program in ten weeks (two weeks shorter than my goal). I now run a location of my own in Lanham, Maryland, which means I am a promotion of Donnie and Holly's. I now do the same job that they do, I signed up to be a manager and that is exactly what I am. I didn't get in this to do sales (which no one does). Donnie told me that I could make 30K my first year in the first interview. But in my business in its first year, I made $82,000. I feel like I scammed Donnie. People who blow out in their first or second week obviously didn't understand the business. They give anyone, no matter what race,color,gender, or age, the same opportunity they gave me. Free merchandise, free training, (the day you have to pay for something should be a red flag for you no matter what business) and they also give you the opportunity to move to any state with a business for free. Like I said I went through training in New Jersey and I got the freedom to move to Maryland. Any person with a brain can look at all these negative letters and see that people run offices all over the country. So ask yourself, how did they get there? They got promoted there obviously. Running your own business isn't going to happen overnight, it takes more time and dedication to be successful in this and in any business. Anyone who says this is a pyramid scam or that you dont get promoted doesn't know what THE
F*** your talking about. Everyone has the exact same equal opportunity. All it takes to complete training is working hard( for yourself), dedication, and a little blind faith, believing that Donnie and Holly will get you open. I am so confident that I am going to leave my phone number (NOT FOR BLOWOUTS) but for people who actually want some advice on how to run a successful business for Scentura. 240-380-6157 or 240-330-7566. I have alot of respect for Donnie and Holly because if I was in the position, I wouldn't even bother running an office I would retire. They are great people and unbelievable promoting owners. I am 21 years old, I am black and I make decent money. Thanks to Larry Hohn for giving me the opportunity. When an opportunity like this comes your way it isn't about what someone else did or does for you but what you do with the opportunity yourself. See you at the top.
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