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  • Submitted: Sat, October 02, 2004
  • Updated: Sun, October 03, 2004

  • Reported By:bladenboro North Carolina
One Web Direct Bill
Po Box 612608 DALLAS, Texas U.S.A.

One Web Direct Bill rip-off! Unauthorized charges. DALLAS Texas

*Consumer Suggestion: National one telecom, more like street muggers than con artists!

*Consumer Suggestion: National one telecom, more like street muggers than con artists!

*Consumer Suggestion: National one telecom, more like street muggers than con artists!

*Consumer Suggestion: National one telecom, more like street muggers than con artists!

*UPDATE Employee: I have said all I have to say

*Consumer Suggestion: One web direct bill or National one telecom. Frauds! Don't pay a dime!

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i just got this bill in the mail from one web direct mail, it was for 60 dollars for a call and visit a site that i did not do, it was done on 9-22-04 at 4:22 pm and another one at 4:25 each one for 6 minutes. there is only 3 minutes from each time. i was not at home and my computer internet service was down.

I do not get home until 5:00pm, when i got home that day my internet was down for 3 days. i had to pay compac tech support to help me back on the internet, i don't know know what happen that day, and it was the same day, that was charge, i did not do it, my computer was down for 3 days

Billy
bladenboro, North Carolina
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

National one telecom, more like street muggers than con artists!

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

What is the epitome of a good con? Con is short for confidence.

A professional con artist is able to gain your confidence and deceive you.

The real pros can get you to empty you bank account, mortgage your home, and max out your credit. You sell your new big screen, and bring in an old portable from the garage. You send your young, innocent trophy wife to the airport to pick up the con artist. Years later, broke and desperate, you are still singing their praise. Telling anyone who will listen what a great man they are.

That's a good con artist!

They have standards of professionalism to uphold. They strive to develop quality cons that people will use for years to come.

Carlo Ponzi, for example, creator of the financial scheme bearing his name. In the 1920's he was able to swindle over 40,000 people out of the equivalent of $140 million. Even near the end, investors were still singing his praises. This is a man Americans could trust to bring them a quality con. One they could depend on for many years to come.

Even today, the ponzi schemes live on in one form or another. A true genius at his craft!

Where is the quality, the innovation, the sheer grandeur of a truly magnificent con to be found today?

Certainly not at National one telecom! They are running the tired, old modem dialer con.

Zero innovation. Zero originality. And, zero plausibility.

You see, a good con makes you believe. Nobody in their right mind would believe that they called the United Kingdom at 3 AM! How could anybody be stupid enough to think people would fall for something like that?

Their billing amount is all wrong! Who the hell isn't going to see an extra $100 charge on a phone bill? That won't blend in, no way, no how!

See how stupid they are?

A reasonable charge like $4.27 would have a much better chance of blending in with the rest of the bill.

Plus, could they have come up with a dumber name? Why not call the company Access Charge? After all, an access charge for $4.27 could easily slip by under the radar.

And, the content they are billing for? A porn site? What would an elderly woman be doing visiting a porn site? She would know right away it's a fraud.

Now, if they were using a search site, it would make some sense. I'd have gone with Intelli-search, the revolutionary new way to search the internet. I'd make a logo, and a motto. Intelli-search, we place the internet at your fingertips!

Then, when the bill was questioned, the user would remember using the site. Instead of the porn nonsense!

And last, you need someone who can spin to come here to ripoffreports. Not that dumbass David! I'd have gone with the hacker billing error excuse. I'd have said that a hacker broke into our network and downloaded a virus that changed the records. The virus changed the phone number, so it is now one number off. That's how we billed you by mistake. Our fault, we will fix it promptly. Then proceed to remove the bill and never scam that individual again. That is 100% believable.

Instead this fool comes here with his challenge of proof! People know they didn't call the UK. That's all the proof they need. Plus, it attracts people like me, who troll the web looking for a worthy intellectual challenge. Instead of spinning the problem away, this idiot spun it out of control. Now, everybody will be running to the newspapers to warn others. Eventually, the feds will come over and stamp this out because they are sick and tired of all the messages coming in. The idiots at National one damn well better be hiding!

But, see, my version would never get here in the first place. Most people would never notice my bill. The few that did would call and find out that it was for something they remember using. You know, once the cash flow started, I'd engineer a real search engine that users would be happy to pay for. What started as a con merges into a mainstream application! That's innovation. That's engineering.

Ah yes.....Access Charge, delivering quality cons, I mean content, to internet users everywhere.

See, a quality con works smooth. It's an easy sell. People will gladly line up in the rain to buy in. National one, in contrast, has to force people to accept their nonsense. Unanswered questions. Phone lines that never answer. Mail boxes that don't even exist. A fake collection agency that has to ram the bill down someone's throat to extract payment. That's not a con. There's no confidence employed there. It's more like a strong arm robbery. A street mugging! Give us all your money, or we'll disconnect your phone and ruin your credit!

In conclusion, I'd say the idiots at National one bring a new low to the respectable companies listed here on ripoffreports. Zero new innovation. Zero plausibility. Zero deniability.

Nation one, the real con artists are embarrassed to be listed here with you. You're a disgrace to the profession. Either come up with a real con that works well. Or go back to your prior job of pulling communication wire through conduits.
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#2 Consumer Suggestion

National one telecom, more like street muggers than con artists!

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

What is the epitome of a good con? Con is short for confidence.

A professional con artist is able to gain your confidence and deceive you.

The real pros can get you to empty you bank account, mortgage your home, and max out your credit. You sell your new big screen, and bring in an old portable from the garage. You send your young, innocent trophy wife to the airport to pick up the con artist. Years later, broke and desperate, you are still singing their praise. Telling anyone who will listen what a great man they are.

That's a good con artist!

They have standards of professionalism to uphold. They strive to develop quality cons that people will use for years to come.

Carlo Ponzi, for example, creator of the financial scheme bearing his name. In the 1920's he was able to swindle over 40,000 people out of the equivalent of $140 million. Even near the end, investors were still singing his praises. This is a man Americans could trust to bring them a quality con. One they could depend on for many years to come.

Even today, the ponzi schemes live on in one form or another. A true genius at his craft!

Where is the quality, the innovation, the sheer grandeur of a truly magnificent con to be found today?

Certainly not at National one telecom! They are running the tired, old modem dialer con.

Zero innovation. Zero originality. And, zero plausibility.

You see, a good con makes you believe. Nobody in their right mind would believe that they called the United Kingdom at 3 AM! How could anybody be stupid enough to think people would fall for something like that?

Their billing amount is all wrong! Who the hell isn't going to see an extra $100 charge on a phone bill? That won't blend in, no way, no how!

See how stupid they are?

A reasonable charge like $4.27 would have a much better chance of blending in with the rest of the bill.

Plus, could they have come up with a dumber name? Why not call the company Access Charge? After all, an access charge for $4.27 could easily slip by under the radar.

And, the content they are billing for? A porn site? What would an elderly woman be doing visiting a porn site? She would know right away it's a fraud.

Now, if they were using a search site, it would make some sense. I'd have gone with Intelli-search, the revolutionary new way to search the internet. I'd make a logo, and a motto. Intelli-search, we place the internet at your fingertips!

Then, when the bill was questioned, the user would remember using the site. Instead of the porn nonsense!

And last, you need someone who can spin to come here to ripoffreports. Not that dumbass David! I'd have gone with the hacker billing error excuse. I'd have said that a hacker broke into our network and downloaded a virus that changed the records. The virus changed the phone number, so it is now one number off. That's how we billed you by mistake. Our fault, we will fix it promptly. Then proceed to remove the bill and never scam that individual again. That is 100% believable.

Instead this fool comes here with his challenge of proof! People know they didn't call the UK. That's all the proof they need. Plus, it attracts people like me, who troll the web looking for a worthy intellectual challenge. Instead of spinning the problem away, this idiot spun it out of control. Now, everybody will be running to the newspapers to warn others. Eventually, the feds will come over and stamp this out because they are sick and tired of all the messages coming in. The idiots at National one damn well better be hiding!

But, see, my version would never get here in the first place. Most people would never notice my bill. The few that did would call and find out that it was for something they remember using. You know, once the cash flow started, I'd engineer a real search engine that users would be happy to pay for. What started as a con merges into a mainstream application! That's innovation. That's engineering.

Ah yes.....Access Charge, delivering quality cons, I mean content, to internet users everywhere.

See, a quality con works smooth. It's an easy sell. People will gladly line up in the rain to buy in. National one, in contrast, has to force people to accept their nonsense. Unanswered questions. Phone lines that never answer. Mail boxes that don't even exist. A fake collection agency that has to ram the bill down someone's throat to extract payment. That's not a con. There's no confidence employed there. It's more like a strong arm robbery. A street mugging! Give us all your money, or we'll disconnect your phone and ruin your credit!

In conclusion, I'd say the idiots at National one bring a new low to the respectable companies listed here on ripoffreports. Zero new innovation. Zero plausibility. Zero deniability.

Nation one, the real con artists are embarrassed to be listed here with you. You're a disgrace to the profession. Either come up with a real con that works well. Or go back to your prior job of pulling communication wire through conduits.
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

National one telecom, more like street muggers than con artists!

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

What is the epitome of a good con? Con is short for confidence.

A professional con artist is able to gain your confidence and deceive you.

The real pros can get you to empty you bank account, mortgage your home, and max out your credit. You sell your new big screen, and bring in an old portable from the garage. You send your young, innocent trophy wife to the airport to pick up the con artist. Years later, broke and desperate, you are still singing their praise. Telling anyone who will listen what a great man they are.

That's a good con artist!

They have standards of professionalism to uphold. They strive to develop quality cons that people will use for years to come.

Carlo Ponzi, for example, creator of the financial scheme bearing his name. In the 1920's he was able to swindle over 40,000 people out of the equivalent of $140 million. Even near the end, investors were still singing his praises. This is a man Americans could trust to bring them a quality con. One they could depend on for many years to come.

Even today, the ponzi schemes live on in one form or another. A true genius at his craft!

Where is the quality, the innovation, the sheer grandeur of a truly magnificent con to be found today?

Certainly not at National one telecom! They are running the tired, old modem dialer con.

Zero innovation. Zero originality. And, zero plausibility.

You see, a good con makes you believe. Nobody in their right mind would believe that they called the United Kingdom at 3 AM! How could anybody be stupid enough to think people would fall for something like that?

Their billing amount is all wrong! Who the hell isn't going to see an extra $100 charge on a phone bill? That won't blend in, no way, no how!

See how stupid they are?

A reasonable charge like $4.27 would have a much better chance of blending in with the rest of the bill.

Plus, could they have come up with a dumber name? Why not call the company Access Charge? After all, an access charge for $4.27 could easily slip by under the radar.

And, the content they are billing for? A porn site? What would an elderly woman be doing visiting a porn site? She would know right away it's a fraud.

Now, if they were using a search site, it would make some sense. I'd have gone with Intelli-search, the revolutionary new way to search the internet. I'd make a logo, and a motto. Intelli-search, we place the internet at your fingertips!

Then, when the bill was questioned, the user would remember using the site. Instead of the porn nonsense!

And last, you need someone who can spin to come here to ripoffreports. Not that dumbass David! I'd have gone with the hacker billing error excuse. I'd have said that a hacker broke into our network and downloaded a virus that changed the records. The virus changed the phone number, so it is now one number off. That's how we billed you by mistake. Our fault, we will fix it promptly. Then proceed to remove the bill and never scam that individual again. That is 100% believable.

Instead this fool comes here with his challenge of proof! People know they didn't call the UK. That's all the proof they need. Plus, it attracts people like me, who troll the web looking for a worthy intellectual challenge. Instead of spinning the problem away, this idiot spun it out of control. Now, everybody will be running to the newspapers to warn others. Eventually, the feds will come over and stamp this out because they are sick and tired of all the messages coming in. The idiots at National one damn well better be hiding!

But, see, my version would never get here in the first place. Most people would never notice my bill. The few that did would call and find out that it was for something they remember using. You know, once the cash flow started, I'd engineer a real search engine that users would be happy to pay for. What started as a con merges into a mainstream application! That's innovation. That's engineering.

Ah yes.....Access Charge, delivering quality cons, I mean content, to internet users everywhere.

See, a quality con works smooth. It's an easy sell. People will gladly line up in the rain to buy in. National one, in contrast, has to force people to accept their nonsense. Unanswered questions. Phone lines that never answer. Mail boxes that don't even exist. A fake collection agency that has to ram the bill down someone's throat to extract payment. That's not a con. There's no confidence employed there. It's more like a strong arm robbery. A street mugging! Give us all your money, or we'll disconnect your phone and ruin your credit!

In conclusion, I'd say the idiots at National one bring a new low to the respectable companies listed here on ripoffreports. Zero new innovation. Zero plausibility. Zero deniability.

Nation one, the real con artists are embarrassed to be listed here with you. You're a disgrace to the profession. Either come up with a real con that works well. Or go back to your prior job of pulling communication wire through conduits.
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#4 Consumer Suggestion

National one telecom, more like street muggers than con artists!

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

What is the epitome of a good con? Con is short for confidence.

A professional con artist is able to gain your confidence and deceive you.

The real pros can get you to empty you bank account, mortgage your home, and max out your credit. You sell your new big screen, and bring in an old portable from the garage. You send your young, innocent trophy wife to the airport to pick up the con artist. Years later, broke and desperate, you are still singing their praise. Telling anyone who will listen what a great man they are.

That's a good con artist!

They have standards of professionalism to uphold. They strive to develop quality cons that people will use for years to come.

Carlo Ponzi, for example, creator of the financial scheme bearing his name. In the 1920's he was able to swindle over 40,000 people out of the equivalent of $140 million. Even near the end, investors were still singing his praises. This is a man Americans could trust to bring them a quality con. One they could depend on for many years to come.

Even today, the ponzi schemes live on in one form or another. A true genius at his craft!

Where is the quality, the innovation, the sheer grandeur of a truly magnificent con to be found today?

Certainly not at National one telecom! They are running the tired, old modem dialer con.

Zero innovation. Zero originality. And, zero plausibility.

You see, a good con makes you believe. Nobody in their right mind would believe that they called the United Kingdom at 3 AM! How could anybody be stupid enough to think people would fall for something like that?

Their billing amount is all wrong! Who the hell isn't going to see an extra $100 charge on a phone bill? That won't blend in, no way, no how!

See how stupid they are?

A reasonable charge like $4.27 would have a much better chance of blending in with the rest of the bill.

Plus, could they have come up with a dumber name? Why not call the company Access Charge? After all, an access charge for $4.27 could easily slip by under the radar.

And, the content they are billing for? A porn site? What would an elderly woman be doing visiting a porn site? She would know right away it's a fraud.

Now, if they were using a search site, it would make some sense. I'd have gone with Intelli-search, the revolutionary new way to search the internet. I'd make a logo, and a motto. Intelli-search, we place the internet at your fingertips!

Then, when the bill was questioned, the user would remember using the site. Instead of the porn nonsense!

And last, you need someone who can spin to come here to ripoffreports. Not that dumbass David! I'd have gone with the hacker billing error excuse. I'd have said that a hacker broke into our network and downloaded a virus that changed the records. The virus changed the phone number, so it is now one number off. That's how we billed you by mistake. Our fault, we will fix it promptly. Then proceed to remove the bill and never scam that individual again. That is 100% believable.

Instead this fool comes here with his challenge of proof! People know they didn't call the UK. That's all the proof they need. Plus, it attracts people like me, who troll the web looking for a worthy intellectual challenge. Instead of spinning the problem away, this idiot spun it out of control. Now, everybody will be running to the newspapers to warn others. Eventually, the feds will come over and stamp this out because they are sick and tired of all the messages coming in. The idiots at National one damn well better be hiding!

But, see, my version would never get here in the first place. Most people would never notice my bill. The few that did would call and find out that it was for something they remember using. You know, once the cash flow started, I'd engineer a real search engine that users would be happy to pay for. What started as a con merges into a mainstream application! That's innovation. That's engineering.

Ah yes.....Access Charge, delivering quality cons, I mean content, to internet users everywhere.

See, a quality con works smooth. It's an easy sell. People will gladly line up in the rain to buy in. National one, in contrast, has to force people to accept their nonsense. Unanswered questions. Phone lines that never answer. Mail boxes that don't even exist. A fake collection agency that has to ram the bill down someone's throat to extract payment. That's not a con. There's no confidence employed there. It's more like a strong arm robbery. A street mugging! Give us all your money, or we'll disconnect your phone and ruin your credit!

In conclusion, I'd say the idiots at National one bring a new low to the respectable companies listed here on ripoffreports. Zero new innovation. Zero plausibility. Zero deniability.

Nation one, the real con artists are embarrassed to be listed here with you. You're a disgrace to the profession. Either come up with a real con that works well. Or go back to your prior job of pulling communication wire through conduits.
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#5 UPDATE Employee

I have said all I have to say

AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)

I have said all I have to say, and I will say no more. If you folks have any evidence, please do the following:

1. Call our customer service #

2. State that you wish to send a dialer application for investigation that you feel is out of compliance.

3. The rep on the phone will give you further instructions.

If you guys wish to listen to "Paul" who issued a death threat and endorsed other illegal activities, such as hacking, feel free to do so.

I've done everything I could to ask for evidence, and thanks to this thread there's a record of it.
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#6 Consumer Suggestion

One web direct bill or National one telecom. Frauds! Don't pay a dime!

AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)

Here's how the fraud works. While you search the internet, unknown to you, a program comes over the connection into your computer.

The program hijacks your modem, replacing the normal dialer. First, it mutes the speaker, so you can't hear when it dials out.

Next, the program dials out over the phone line, typically to 44-207-335-84(00), a number located in the United Kingdom.

However, no actual dialing needs to occur for the fraud to take place. For example, broadband cable users may not even have a phone line attached to dial out on. Yet, they still receive fraudulent bills.

In addition, some users turn their computers off when they are finished. Yet, the bill they receive claims the call was made when the user knew the computer was turned off.

So, once the program comes over the internet into your system, it sends your phone information to the fake billing network.

Therefore, no actual calls need to be made in order for you to be billed. You can have broadband or satellite internet, yet you will still be billed for a dialed call.

Your computer can be turned off, and you will still be billed!

When you complain to your local phone company, they do not understand the nature of the problem. In addition, they are obligated by law to pay the fraudulent company. This is known as third party billing.

Neither you, nor the phone company can stop this because, remember, no actual calls need to be made. Therefore, a block on a certain number will not help.

Typically, the local phone company is obligated to act as a collection agent for this fraudulent company. They have no choice but to insist on payment.

In addition, the fraudulent company itself will attempt to call you, insisting on payment. They have set up a fake collection company, collection express. They claim they will damage your credit.

If you do pay for this, you can be assured that the exact same thing will happen next month, and every month thereafter.

The individuals behind this all use fake names and post office boxes. Many of the toll free numbers used are made-up or never answered. They hide, because there is the very real possibility that an irate victim will simply come over and kill everyone involved in the scam in a crazy rage caused by the frustration.

They are counting on you to pay the phone bill. They are counting on the majority of people to give in and send payment.

Collectively, this fraud takes in several million every month in fake charges. It's a nationwide problem, effecting people at random. That's why, despite the risk of certain death or injury, the fraud continues. Big money!

Many federal agencies are aware of this situation. However, they are stymied by the dead ends and shell companies set up by the scammers. In fact, one of the individuals is bold enough to actually come here, pretending to "help" people his company has defrauded. He is strictly acting as damage control, keeping a lid on the situation so that no complaints are filed.

He, and his fake company, are counting on you to pay quietly, without raising a fuss to anyone. I suggest you do just the opposite!

Fax, file, or call a complaint to:

1.fbi-federal bureau of investigation
2-fcc-federal communications commission
3-ftc-federal trade commission
4-puc-public utilities commission
5-national fraud hotline
6-attorney general in your state

Feel free to use pages from this site as needed. In addition, I recommend you call your city newspaper and make them aware of the problem. This fraud relies on people being unaware and uninformed. When everyone fights instead of pays, the money will stop coming in to the fraud.
Currently, the fraud is using various names:

1-national one telecom
2-one web direct bill
3-collection express
4-usbi or esbi
5-tellsys
6-one call com
7-candid publishing
8-Intercosmos Media Group or directNIC
9-Money Management International

All of these names are in some way connected to this fraud. Many are involved in setting it up. Some help with the fake billing. Other names are the actual fraud companies themselves.

Unless you want these frauds to slowly bleed you dry, and eventually cause your telephone to be turned off, I suggest you scream loud and long to anyone and everyone who will listen! Remember, they are counting on your fear and ignorance in this situation. Instead, show them they're wrong. Dead wrong!

Good luck with this!
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