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Complaint Review: Onestopmotors.com

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  • Submitted: Sun, July 17, 2005
  • Updated: Sun, October 10, 2010

  • Reported By:Las Vegas Nevada
Onestopmotors.com
Onestopmotors.com Las Vegas, Nevada United States of America

Onestopmotors.com, One Stop Motors. Rob Wilder. Rob Thomas, Joe Foniccello, Rob Ufast ripoff I sent them $399 to advertise vehicle + $900 to ship it Never got 1 call Las Vegas Nevada

*Consumer Comment: Sounds Like He's Got Alot of Potential Buyers!!!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: hollow apology

*Consumer Suggestion: Here is where you file your complaint against One Stop Motors

*Consumer Suggestion: Hey, Rob Wilder aka: Tim Giffey, you NEED a dealer's license!

*Consumer Comment: Yes, I noticed that too. And, I was just contacted by them.

*Consumer Comment: Yes, I noticed that too. And, I was just contacted by them.

*Consumer Comment: Yes, I noticed that too. And, I was just contacted by them.

*Consumer Comment: Yes, I noticed that too. And, I was just contacted by them.

*Consumer Comment: Am I the only one who saw this?

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Response to Brad in Princeton, Illinois

*Consumer Comment: There is absolutely no accusation about Onestopmotors that I would find hard to believe

*UPDATE Employee: Human Resource Manager

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I was contacted by Joe from onestopmotors.com He told me he could help me sell my car and that I would get more money for it because "He could provide the Financing for the buyer" All I had to do was pay for the advertising $399. He said I would sell the car real fast and he would continue to advertise the car untill it was sold. The only thing they did was put it on ebay for 1 week then they left it on there obscure website forever. I did not get 1 call or 1 bid on my car. After the Ebay auction ended Joe called me and told me he had an approved buyer for my car He said that He negotiated an extra $1500 for the car but the finance company would not cut the check to the shipper If I send him $900 to cover the shipping I would get A check overnighted to me from Capital One.

Well to make a long story short I got scammed I western Unioned the cash to Joe and NOBODY EVER BOUGHT MY CAR. Rob Wilder is the owner of one stop motors and when I first talked to him he Identified himself as Rob Thomas He said that Joe was an "Independant Contractor " and that this onestopmotors.com had nothing to do with it. BEWARE

Charles Las Vegas, Nevada
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 07/17/2005 06:02 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Onestopmotorscom/Las-Vegas-Nevada-89104/Onestopmotorscom-One-Stop-Motors-Rob-Wilder-Rob-Thomas-Joe-Foniccello-Rob-Ufast-ripo-150120. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Sounds Like He's Got Alot of Potential Buyers!!!

AUTHOR: Jim - (USA)

When you read what these people have said, one would have to agree they must have many potential buyers waiting in the wings and not only that, they can offer a much more attractive purchase to their buyer by offering financing, warranty etc.  Anybody disagree with that????

So my question is this:

If your operation is so-o-o-o good with so-o-o-o many buyers, why do you need to charge UP FRONT FEES?????  Afterall, your service is so good, you are virtually guaranteed a sale! 

This is nothing more than the timeshare scam applied to the car business.  Tell the seller they have so-o-o-o-o-o-o many buyers waiting to win the seller's confidence.  Charge the seller an up front fee and tell them "its for advertising".  In that way, they get money even if the car doesn't sell. The seller gets nothing.  Are there expenses in selling a car on consignment?  Absolutely.  But if that "dealership" has so much traffic, then they work on commission. 

This SCAM is like paying a real estate agent BEFORE selling your house.  Or you paying the 711 monthly whether or not you buy gas there. 

Bottom line...don't ever, ever pay anybody upfront for selling your car.  If they have so many potential customers, they will work on commission, due and payable and rightfully earned AFTER the sale.

 

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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

hollow apology

AUTHOR: Coburg - (U.S.A.)

Tim, Rob, or whoever you claim to be today, you are quick on apologies but slow to help.



You guys are sleeze, sleeze, sleeze. I've accused you here before but I am genuinely curious. How do you sleep at night? Quite possibly this sleeze has become so normal that it never bothers you??



I'm curious how the criminal mind works.
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#3 Consumer Suggestion

Here is where you file your complaint against One Stop Motors

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

State of Nevada Department of Business and Industry is the agency responsible for enforcement.



Tel: 702-486-2750

Fax: 702-486-2758



Mailing address:



Busines & Industry Director's Office

555 E. Washington Ave; Ste:4900

Las Vegas, NV. 89101



You can also file a complaint online at the State of Nevada website:



http://dbi.state.nv.us/ConstituentComplaintForm.htm
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#4 Consumer Suggestion

Hey, Rob Wilder aka: Tim Giffey, you NEED a dealer's license!

AUTHOR: Steve - (U.S.A.)

Rob,



According to your own statement[above], you need a dealers license to operate legally in the State of NEVADA.



Your business license is for ADVERTISING, not car sales. You are in violation of your business license, and have no dealer's license as required by NV Law.



You said: .."Why Brad would claim OSM does not assist in financing or selling vehicles is beyond me * Financing and selling vehicles is what we do!* This is like saying McDonalds doesn't sell hamburgers, simply not true"...



So, If you are FINANCING and SELLING vehicles, you NEED a DEALERS LICENSE in the state of NV!



You just incriminated yourself. I guess that is why you operate under the alias of Tim Giffey.



I am tired about these scams and tired of being approached by them. I will be filing a complaint with the State of Nevada for an UNLICENSED DEALER.



Your done fool.
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#5 Consumer Comment

Yes, I noticed that too. And, I was just contacted by them.

AUTHOR: Ron - (U.S.A.)

It seems that Tim replied to the bottom listed entry on the main search results page. He signed as the "General Manager."



I recently listed my car for sale on Autotrader.com and Cars.com. Last week I received an automated recorded cold call solicition - even though my number is on the "do not call list". They are obviously using various "cars for sale" ads as prospecting sources. Anyway, I hung up on the recorded solicitation. Then, two days later I got another call from a girl that was trying to sell me their services.



I asked her for a google search website example - to look at their ad format and to check them out. She became flustered when it didn't appear and transfered my to a more experienced "closer" that gave me all kinds of excuses why it wasn't on google, but I could find it on Yahoo and MSN search. He preceeded to try to get me to sign up right away. But, I knew better! I told him I needed to do my due diligence and look into their business a little more... and here I am! I also looked into the link for their BBB, and it appears they are no longer a member - even though they proudly post a large BBB logo on their website and claim they are on their "about us" page.



I won't be using them and I'd say their "feature services" really aren't neccessary. (They seem to really push the financing angle - and geez, they're just using Capital one, which is accessable to everyone online.) If you place your own ads in Autotrader.com, Cars.com, and Ebay motors, you have pretty much covered the entire local and national online marketplace.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Yes, I noticed that too. And, I was just contacted by them.

AUTHOR: Ron - (U.S.A.)

It seems that Tim replied to the bottom listed entry on the main search results page. He signed as the "General Manager."



I recently listed my car for sale on Autotrader.com and Cars.com. Last week I received an automated recorded cold call solicition - even though my number is on the "do not call list". They are obviously using various "cars for sale" ads as prospecting sources. Anyway, I hung up on the recorded solicitation. Then, two days later I got another call from a girl that was trying to sell me their services.



I asked her for a google search website example - to look at their ad format and to check them out. She became flustered when it didn't appear and transfered my to a more experienced "closer" that gave me all kinds of excuses why it wasn't on google, but I could find it on Yahoo and MSN search. He preceeded to try to get me to sign up right away. But, I knew better! I told him I needed to do my due diligence and look into their business a little more... and here I am! I also looked into the link for their BBB, and it appears they are no longer a member - even though they proudly post a large BBB logo on their website and claim they are on their "about us" page.



I won't be using them and I'd say their "feature services" really aren't neccessary. (They seem to really push the financing angle - and geez, they're just using Capital one, which is accessable to everyone online.) If you place your own ads in Autotrader.com, Cars.com, and Ebay motors, you have pretty much covered the entire local and national online marketplace.
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#7 Consumer Comment

Yes, I noticed that too. And, I was just contacted by them.

AUTHOR: Ron - (U.S.A.)

It seems that Tim replied to the bottom listed entry on the main search results page. He signed as the "General Manager."



I recently listed my car for sale on Autotrader.com and Cars.com. Last week I received an automated recorded cold call solicition - even though my number is on the "do not call list". They are obviously using various "cars for sale" ads as prospecting sources. Anyway, I hung up on the recorded solicitation. Then, two days later I got another call from a girl that was trying to sell me their services.



I asked her for a google search website example - to look at their ad format and to check them out. She became flustered when it didn't appear and transfered my to a more experienced "closer" that gave me all kinds of excuses why it wasn't on google, but I could find it on Yahoo and MSN search. He preceeded to try to get me to sign up right away. But, I knew better! I told him I needed to do my due diligence and look into their business a little more... and here I am! I also looked into the link for their BBB, and it appears they are no longer a member - even though they proudly post a large BBB logo on their website and claim they are on their "about us" page.



I won't be using them and I'd say their "feature services" really aren't neccessary. (They seem to really push the financing angle - and geez, they're just using Capital one, which is accessable to everyone online.) If you place your own ads in Autotrader.com, Cars.com, and Ebay motors, you have pretty much covered the entire local and national online marketplace.
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#8 Consumer Comment

Yes, I noticed that too. And, I was just contacted by them.

AUTHOR: Ron - (U.S.A.)

It seems that Tim replied to the bottom listed entry on the main search results page. He signed as the "General Manager."



I recently listed my car for sale on Autotrader.com and Cars.com. Last week I received an automated recorded cold call solicition - even though my number is on the "do not call list". They are obviously using various "cars for sale" ads as prospecting sources. Anyway, I hung up on the recorded solicitation. Then, two days later I got another call from a girl that was trying to sell me their services.



I asked her for a google search website example - to look at their ad format and to check them out. She became flustered when it didn't appear and transfered my to a more experienced "closer" that gave me all kinds of excuses why it wasn't on google, but I could find it on Yahoo and MSN search. He preceeded to try to get me to sign up right away. But, I knew better! I told him I needed to do my due diligence and look into their business a little more... and here I am! I also looked into the link for their BBB, and it appears they are no longer a member - even though they proudly post a large BBB logo on their website and claim they are on their "about us" page.



I won't be using them and I'd say their "feature services" really aren't neccessary. (They seem to really push the financing angle - and geez, they're just using Capital one, which is accessable to everyone online.) If you place your own ads in Autotrader.com, Cars.com, and Ebay motors, you have pretty much covered the entire local and national online marketplace.
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#9 Consumer Comment

Am I the only one who saw this?

AUTHOR: Larry - (U.S.A.)

Someone filed a rebuttal to the claims made by Brad about One Stop Motors. The person who filed the rebuttal claims to be Robert Wilder, CEO of OSM in the body of his message. But Rip Off Report automatically adds the person's name to the end of messages. Suddenly, Robert becomes Tim. So, is it Tim pretending to be Robert or is it really Robert who also calls himself Tim?



Shucks, if he can do it so can I.



George Bush, POTUS

Washington, DC
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#10 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Response to Brad in Princeton, Illinois

AUTHOR: Tim - (U.S.A.)

This response is in regards to Mr. Brad Foreman's comments noted after the "Charles of Las Vegas" complaint.



It's EXTREMELY discouraging as an owner to see an unhappy customer.

The only thing that's worse than an unhappy customer is a lie or false accusation made about your company.



Such is the case with the comments noted in the complaint above.

Brad from Princeton, ILL makes many accusations regarding the number of vehicles OSM assist in selling.



Brad has never been to the OSM offices and has never allowed OSM to render the services in which we claim. OSM has had numerous potential buyers for Brad's (from Princeton, ILL) truck, however Brad has denied this information. Due to the denial of a refund, Brad has attempted to make numerous (FALSE) complaints and accusations against our company. His accusations and complaints typically have zero value and are easily over come. The comments above are a perfect example of this.



Why Brad would claim OSM does not assist in financing or selling vehicles is beyond me. Financing and selling vehicles is what we do! This is like saying McDonalds doesn't sell hamburgers, simply not true.



OSM has a data base of over 40,000 buyers and sellers. When dealing with a volume of clientele such as this, eventually there are bound to be a few customers who feel we have failed. Rather they were buyers who were declined for the financing, or sellers who feel their vehicle should have been sold more quickly. The simple truth of the matter is OSM will always do it's very best to negotiate the best possible deal for both the buyer and seller. Unfortunately, we cannot guarantee every buyer will always get approved for financing, or that a seller will sell their vehicle in a specific time frame.



OSM works with many banks, escrow companies, shipping companies, etc...

We are established and one the industries leading online vehicle sellers.



As I have mentioned in many of the complaints and accusations on ripoffreport.com, the comments posted above are false!



Should anybody reading this have any questions or concerns, please contact our customer service department for questions. We would be glad to assist you with any questions referring to the comments posted on this web site.



OSM works EXTREMELY hard to sell the vehicles listed!

We are officially one of the nations leading online sellers. Anybody viewing the comments posted on ROR should know that anybody (Including former employees or disgruntled customers) can post anything desired onto this site...

DON'T BELIEVE EVERYTHING YOU HEAR!



Respectfully,

Robert Wilder

President/CEO

702 266 8657
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#11 Consumer Comment

There is absolutely no accusation about Onestopmotors that I would find hard to believe

AUTHOR: Brad - (U.S.A.)

I do not discredit Charles for one moment. Nor, do I believe, would any of this company's thousands of clients. His testimony is only scratching the surface. It's interesting, Charles has them categorized under "Car Financing". Well, technically, I think that you would actually have to sell a car first to be considered such. That is just another one of OSM's lies. Get on their website. There is a link to Capital One Finance. Contact them on the phone. They have never heard of any such Onestopmotors. You really don't need to bother with financing when you really don't bother selling cars. I have dealt with them first hand and can verify they are trained and well seasoned liars. I find the fact that they are still in business a disgrace to Nevada government. If only the BBB of Southern Nevada disclosed the contents of their complaints. You can view this report at http://vegasbbb.org/commonreport.html?compid=65959

I just have to ask "what's it going to take"?
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#12 UPDATE Employee

Human Resource Manager

AUTHOR: Rob - (U.S.A.)

The above complainant is trying to blame One Stop Motors for something they had nothing to do with.



We sympathize with him for his unfortunate turn of events however; fraud warnings are clearly posted on the main page of our website as we want to help our clients to not fall victim to the myriad of various scams floating around by giving them as much information as we can muster and presenting it to them in a readily available fashion.



Had Charles contacted our customer service department as instructed in the welcome packet he received if he had any questions, comments, or concerns, we are steadfast in the belief that he would not have fallen victim to a scam.



It is our suggestion that Charles contacts his local police department's fraud unit and files a complaint rather than use his energy unproductively in an attempt to smear our company's name.



As for Charles claims regarding our services, it should be noted that One Stop Motors has fulfilled, and continues to fulfill, the terms of our advertising agreement. His claims of us only launching an eBay auction and posting an ad on our obscure website are not only ludicrous but false.



One Stop Motors.com is among one of the nations largest private party advertisers, and provides the most powerful online advertising on the internet today.



Combining Financing, Warranties, Shipping, Keyword Optimization, and much more on the behalf of the seller helps to not only move vehicles quickly, but at top dollar as well.



We hope anyone reading this complaint does not pass along any judgments about One Stop Motors, as this complaint is completely inaccurate and false. Again, One Stop Motors is here to help bring buyers and sellers together, not harm or manipulate consumers. We welcome anyone who reads this to call or email our customer service department for further questions.



Regards,
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