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Complaint Review: Oratel

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  • Submitted: Tue, November 11, 2003
  • Updated: Tue, June 15, 2004

  • Reported By:Santa Rosa California
Oratel
550 Sherbrooke St. W. Suite 1010 Montreal, Quebec Canada

Oratel ripoff Montreal Quebec

*Consumer Comment: Oratel are Thieves, Hopefully they will get what is coming to them.

*Consumer Comment: Ripped of By Oratel nothing but liars and cheats

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Look at the rating the Better Business Burea gives Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Look at the rating the Better Business Burea gives Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Look at the rating the Better Business Burea gives Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Look at the rating the Better Business Burea gives Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm

*UPDATE Employee: Oratel, Eonotel, Target Media (Mortgage Leads Scam)

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Paid this company $1,750 for 50 Telemarked Mortgage leads. They were supposed to be fresh, same day leads but the only leads I recieved were 2 or 3 week old rejects.

Total BS!

Save your money! Wish I had!

Scott
Santa Rosa, California
U.S.A.


This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 11/11/2003 05:30 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Oratel/Montreal-Quebec-H3A-1B9/Oratel-ripoff-Montreal-Quebec-71636. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Oratel are Thieves, Hopefully they will get what is coming to them.

AUTHOR: Tom - (U.S.A.)

I spent $1250 for fresh leads. the leads I received were 4-10 weeks old, an eternity in the mortgage business. I couldn't even get Citibank to do a chargeback because they said I received product. They never responded to emails.

They have probably hurt a lot of little guys with this practice. Hopefully they will get what is coming to them.
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#2 Consumer Comment

Ripped of By Oratel nothing but liars and cheats

AUTHOR: Ripped Of @ Wells Fargo - (U.S.A.)

I wish I had seen what others wrote before I spent $2250 on 50 supposidly exclusive real time leads. I was promised to receive these leads within 10 business days after 4 weeks with nothing and numerous calls to the person who sold me these leads I got nothing.

I finally asked for a refund and then I was told I should speak with the Vice President of the Company Jack Barton. He told me I was too be put on an emergency list and would receive my leads the next business day. Which I did not! I called back and asked to speak to the person who originally sold me these leads and I was told they were in another department with the company. After another couple of weeks I finally spoke to Jack Barton again who told me I would again be put on this emergency list. 5 days later I received 13 exclusive real time leads. These were Garbage! Half of these leads were in other states! Some were disconnects and others had no idea why I was calling.

Oh yeah one told me I was the 12th person who had called about this and threatend to take action against me regarding the DNC list. These people are nothing but liars and cheats. Do not be as stupid as me and waste your time and resources on these people!
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Look at the rating the Better Business Burea gives Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm

AUTHOR: I HATE ORATEL - (Canada)

An unsatisfactory rating is given to firms like Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm which have an unusually high volume of complaints or fail to respond to complaints or
answer complaints but fail to resolve the customer's problem in a high percentage of cases or fail to eliminate the underlying cause of complaints. that are the subject of major law enforcement action involving the onsumer/business relationship which materially calls into question the firm's marketplace integrity. that fail to substantiate or modify misleading selling and advertising practices.

The BBB issues this rating to firms such as these Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm which knowingly misuse the Bureau's name or, if pre-committed to arbitration, fail to perform on a BBB arbitration award.

Don't be scammed by these people your better then that!
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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Look at the rating the Better Business Burea gives Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm

AUTHOR: I HATE ORATEL - (Canada)

An unsatisfactory rating is given to firms like Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm which have an unusually high volume of complaints or fail to respond to complaints or
answer complaints but fail to resolve the customer's problem in a high percentage of cases or fail to eliminate the underlying cause of complaints. that are the subject of major law enforcement action involving the onsumer/business relationship which materially calls into question the firm's marketplace integrity. that fail to substantiate or modify misleading selling and advertising practices.

The BBB issues this rating to firms such as these Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm which knowingly misuse the Bureau's name or, if pre-committed to arbitration, fail to perform on a BBB arbitration award.

Don't be scammed by these people your better then that!
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#5 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Look at the rating the Better Business Burea gives Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm

AUTHOR: I HATE ORATEL - (Canada)

An unsatisfactory rating is given to firms like Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm which have an unusually high volume of complaints or fail to respond to complaints or
answer complaints but fail to resolve the customer's problem in a high percentage of cases or fail to eliminate the underlying cause of complaints. that are the subject of major law enforcement action involving the onsumer/business relationship which materially calls into question the firm's marketplace integrity. that fail to substantiate or modify misleading selling and advertising practices.

The BBB issues this rating to firms such as these Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm which knowingly misuse the Bureau's name or, if pre-committed to arbitration, fail to perform on a BBB arbitration award.

Don't be scammed by these people your better then that!
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#6 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Look at the rating the Better Business Burea gives Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm

AUTHOR: I HATE ORATEL - (Canada)

An unsatisfactory rating is given to firms like Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm which have an unusually high volume of complaints or fail to respond to complaints or
answer complaints but fail to resolve the customer's problem in a high percentage of cases or fail to eliminate the underlying cause of complaints. that are the subject of major law enforcement action involving the onsumer/business relationship which materially calls into question the firm's marketplace integrity. that fail to substantiate or modify misleading selling and advertising practices.

The BBB issues this rating to firms such as these Oratel, Econotel, Target Media, Ameri Source, Pachyderm which knowingly misuse the Bureau's name or, if pre-committed to arbitration, fail to perform on a BBB arbitration award.

Don't be scammed by these people your better then that!
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#7 UPDATE Employee

Oratel, Eonotel, Target Media (Mortgage Leads Scam)

AUTHOR: Hustle - (Canada)

Oratel, Eonotel, Target Media (Mortgage Leads Scam)

To anyone in the mortgage business buying leads from these scam artists don not... I repeat do not... It is all a scam... Look up any information on these people they were also known as Ameri Source... why do they keep changing their name hmmm... I wonder... Ask them why they no longer call Oregan... hmmm banned...If you want to pay $45-50 for a phone number for these exclusive real time leads... haha what a joke exclusive yeah right! If you want these leads buy them like theses scam artists at Oratel do from sights like these, www.724leads.com, businesstrainingservice.com/links/sales_leads.html, etc... Oh and if they offer you references like Kevin Sutherland, Enrico Disandro, Jack Barton, Robert Flemming... theses are friends and people who actually work for the company... Do you think you can close 32-35% of the crap these people provide... haha yeah right... These leads are people that have been pestered by over 15 mortgage brokers at least... Oratel is to Mortgage Leads like the Pope is not RC... Get the word out Oratel, Econotel, Target Media... are all scams email all brokers in the US, let the word get out and people like Ryan Kidney and that fat pig and dumb blonde Melinda Ley can find themselves out in the cold prostituting for real... Pathetic... How do they live with themselves... Who knows????

Oratel Is A Scam - Halifax, Nova Scotia
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