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Complaint Review: Over the Road Transportation Inc./Richard Meyers

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  • Submitted: Mon, May 31, 2010
  • Updated: Fri, November 02, 2012

  • Reported By: owner operator victim — mississauga Ontario Canada
Over the Road Transportation Inc./Richard Meyers
191 suprior blvd mississauga, Ontario United States of America

Over the Road Transportation Inc./Richard Meyers over the double Warning to owner operators mississauga, Ontario

*Consumer Comment: Oh Really.....

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Lies all Lies

*Consumer Comment: Lies... All Lies

*Consumer Comment: Try Again!

*UPDATE Employee: Mr Ali

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: The other side of the story

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: See The Facts For Yourself, Tom

*UPDATE Employee: Amir owes me an apology

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ron: If you say Ali and the others were not telling the truth then tell me why did you guys rip me off

*UPDATE Employee: Richard Meyers

*UPDATE Employee: Over the Road (Richard Meyers) NOT A RIPOFF

*General Comment: this scam artist should be in jail for fraud and ripping ppl off

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Richard Meyers ripped me off also

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this warning is to owner and operators who wants to work for over the road, first of all im a previose o-o of this company and there are many others like me who victimized by this cpompany and all puposly and with plan, if you know what do i mean. so kennedy transportation sold me a stright truck, a highway syright truck that supposed to be new but it wasnt and told me that we provide you company that you can start your job right away, and that was realy good offer and realy exciting but as you know any this kind of easy offer is like unbelievable but i beklived them and well guess where did they send me to satrt my new bussiness as an owner operator, yes thats right to over the road, shortly after sarting my job there i realized that this is a fraud company and slowly i puuled out of this. you may ask how, well i saw lots of drivers there who were not happy i talked to them i saw lots of arguments there between poor drivers and the owner of the company , richard mayer there, i saw all my cheques returned, lots of debts i had during that periods that i was working there, i got bankruped and i filed consumer proposal because i had to pay for my lease truck, i had to pay for fuel for every trips and living costs and many other costs and i was out of savings because all my savings went for down payment for my new truck and new bussuness and i paied lots of money to kennedy transportation which is another fraud company, so but these sort of things id neglected in over the road they dont care about you and your bussiness, what they care is about themselves thier bussuness and there are lots of triks that they use againest drivers to pay them as less as it possible. so becarfull guys its verey very dangerous company and they easy hire and you know that these days a company that hire easily have problem . becarful becarful. warning warning, u can contact me at 647 448 0594 my name is ali.

thanks and take care and avpoid going to over the road there are some ather safe companies there that you can try but not this one im warning you.at least before  do anything and signe any contract ask some drivers there whos working there now.


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#1 Consumer Comment

Oh Really.....

AUTHOR: JKLivin - (Canada)

LOL... the funy thing is I am not an Owner Operator, so the bulk of your reply is irrelevant. So who am I blaming.. other than a company that is less than proffesional or responsible. Keep making assumptions though! I would like to see you address the facts that I actually posted! I see your rant about Owner operators and everyting being their fault though.. Sounds like a company that NO One would want to work for.. Blame the OO's they don't know what they are doing!
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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Lies all Lies

AUTHOR: Dispatcher - (Canada)

I love it when people go on to this site and don't have the balls to give their name. Why is it they always go to this site after they have screwed over the company they work for and then try to blame them for all their incompetence. There are O/O's that have been working there for years and a few people have been there over 20 years. It's always the O/O's who don't know what their doing, don't take out loads when their supposed to causing many customer issues, set up truck repair appointments without telling dispatch and on and on never even considering the ramifications to the company. When this happens and the company get's pissed off and acts according to the contract they signed all of sudden their ripoff artists. The bulk of these guys who go to this site have probably worked for 20 different companies in 5 years due to their lack of commitment and low professionalism.

Be responsible, professional and stop blaming others for you incompetence and honour your contract and you will have less issues and no reason to pass the buck on this website.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Lies... All Lies

AUTHOR: JKLivin - (Canada)

This is interesting to me as that I know first hand that you at Over the Road try and recruit owner operators from other companies whilst they are still on the road. You will even go so far as to tell them you will put freight on their truck while under another companies decals and authorities. yet.. you are basically saying that it is Ok for you to screw over owner operator for not giving you substantial notice, not to mention the carrier is potentially liable for any damages incurred while the freight is on their truck without their knowledge. But hey, that will just fall back on the OO and he can take responsibility for it! Am I missing something here! you are putting them in the exact same position in which you penalize your own owner operators for doing to you.. But I do understand.. and that has been the policy over there for as long as I can remember, if anyone does not see things the way you would like them to.. then starve them.. is that it? People, the warning signs are all out there and there are so many more professional outfits than Over the Road, keep looking you will find a better company easily!!

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#4 Consumer Comment

Try Again!

AUTHOR: JKLivin - (Canada)

From what I gather, you only rip owner Operators off when they screw you over... but why should an owner operator take a run out if he has not been paid for previous work and has been screwed over himself. I know first hand that you try and recruit owner operators that are on loads for other carriers.. so if you manage to entice them with your lies to sign up, should they be screwed over by the company they were working for, since they give no notice and have been encouraged to potentially take freight even with another companies decals still on the truck!!! So you are putting an owner operator in a position to give no notice to a current carrier, potentially have a liability to that carrier if the freight has not been authorized to ride under there credentials. You are then creating the exact scenario in which you choose to screw over owner operators that have worked for you.... I am missing something here.
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#5 UPDATE Employee

Mr Ali

AUTHOR: Dispatcher - (Canada)

I wish to add to this scenario.  Mr Ali is only one of many owner operators who venture down the same road as Mr Ali.  They have no experience in the business whatsoever, pay huge premiums for a brand new truck not knowing what the real revenues are in the operation of this vehicle. Once they are broke and usually so far in debt they will never get out, come to companies like OTR and almost beg for us to pay all his expenses and get them the highest paying loads to help them get out of the deep well they've dug. On top of that their so inexperienced trying to get them to run 2 trips per week is almost impossible. They get lost, they don't leave on time to start the week, they wake up at 9 or 10 in the mornng and think they can fulfill their obligations. In the meantime the company suffers losing customers and revenue for their incompetence yet we still try to help them as much as possible. When they leave abruptly, not honoring the contract they signed and screwing us over instead of the people who put them there we find our name on Ripoff.

There are always two sides to every story and before making a decision you need to hear both of them.



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#6 UPDATE EX-employee responds

The other side of the story

AUTHOR: old timer - (Canada)

Mr Ali only speaks of his side of the story, and I know that some of the information he has stated in not true. He did buy his truck from Kennedy Company which is well known for sucking in people to buy trucks at inflated prices, and poor Mr Ali did pay his truck there in a very experienced manner. No was not referred to OTR by Kennedy, but came our way via disparation to get him some work. His costs were extremely high and there is no way any company whether it be OTR or any other company out there could help him.
He signed a contract with OTR understanding his responsibilities and those of OTR and breach it after 7 weeks. He was barely working by choice, he missed many days and loads thus costing him money. He wasn't prepared to be a professional owner operator of a truck. He crys about OTR sticking it to him and his family, but he in turn did the same thing to himself and family.
Regarding bounced cheques and fighting over monies, he failed to mention how OTR covered his fuel, insurance and helped with his lease when he was behind. OTR got screwed by him as well. The marriage between both parties was doomed to happen. OTR couldn't give him enough money to cover his debt, he would have to work over 100 hours per week if not more. He was broke when he walked in the door, and OTR is held responsible for taking him on.
No the situation is not right and if there is a fraud that occurred it is not with OTR, but the company that sold Mr Ali (which he doesn't hardly mention) and his dishonestly or inability to honour a contract that he signed. There is an escape clause that he could have brought into play if he read his contract and acted upon it.
The staff and Mr Meyers did care about this man but he made it most difficult to communicate with him to find out exactly what his situation was. This man tells only half truths not the whole story, shame on Mr. Ali and those that buy into his complaint.
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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

See The Facts For Yourself, Tom

AUTHOR: Amir - (Canada)

Dear Mr. Tom Large
Good day

I do not see any reason why you should disengaged yourself from OTR, especially, considering the fact that you were the person representing the organization with its owner-operators.

You neither interviewed me, nor hired me, nor we shook hands on my last day, I shook hands with RON, not you, TOM. I met you only after I wrote a notice of separation to OVER THE ROAD because of under-pay, early November 2011.  As a matter of fact, I was treated with humiliation while picking up my last two pay-cheques. You treated me as if you dont know me.

About a month ago, I wrote you a second letter (sent by fax) raising the issue of under-pay again, $15.50 for GTA pickup & delivery and $70.00 for Windsor and Leamington. So far, no action has been taken other than that you sent me an E-mail acknowledging receiving the fax letter and passing
it on to the accounting department.

Early November we had a meeting in the office concerning the same issue Under-Pay, you fully agreed with me that a tractor-trailer should not be sent for $17.50 job or out-of-town jobs without a haul-back, and you promised that you will rectify this problem. Did you fulfill your promise? You cant say you did, because the rates in the following pay-reports had dropped to less
than those earlier rates.

Your company had deducted from my pay 50% of motel cost. It is not only wrong to do so, but your company neither paid for lay-over charges, nor paid for 12 hours wait time in London, ON.  

Your company has sent my truck with a 53 foot trailer to do a residential delivery without any unloading equipment, not only that but my truck was sent to pick up a pump-truck from somewhere else, use the pump-truck to unload and then return it back. All that without compensation for mileage, wait-time, and unloading charges. Alfonso promised me compensation, but no
compensation received. On the contrary, I was not even paid the usual regular charge.

If I carry on then this letter will be too long, and it will lose its meaning. Should you like to understand my position then just look into my letter which you have acknowledged receiving.

I had no intention to slander you or your name, I didnt even know your last name to slander it. I just stated the fact the way I felt it is, with no intention to dishonor anybody. For your information, someone named Richard, possibly that was Richard Meyers, called me yesterday, January 9th,
2012, at 3:41 pm, threatening me and demanding a withdrawal of my report from Rip-Off website. Do you call this courteous and civilized behavior? Certainly not. A man of his caliber and responsibilities should know well Not to make threatening statements or remarks I didnt decide what to do with his threat, yet.

I stand firm behind what I said about the under-pay and rip-off OTR doing to its
owner-operators, I have enough supporting documents and reasons for my claim.

I, really, wish that we could have met at better circumstances, and hoping that your company will pay me all the short-pays, then and only then I shall amend my report with Rip-Off website.

Wish you well and best regards,

Amir
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#8 UPDATE Employee

Amir owes me an apology

AUTHOR: old timer - (Canada)

Dear Amir you haven't chosen me to blame for your problems at Over the Road Transportation saying that I was not honest with you. You know and I know that I never misled you or lied to you in any way and the last time I saw you which was this past week, you never mentioned to me anything about the trouble you had with your pay and also that you quit. I did notice that when I gave you your cheque you thanked me and shook my hand in what I thought was friendship. I than found out after you left that you had quit the company and that you were busy outside talking to a fellow that I was to see that afternoon trying to prevent me from seeing him. He told me what you had said which surprised me.

I am not a shield for this company and I don't like to be accused as being a person who isn't honest with drivers. I told you in your interview about the job and what was expected of you and also if you weren't happy to speak with me. You couldn't be bothered and just quit.

Now that you have plastered my name in a Rip Off report you have crossed the line with me. As you are aware your comments cannot be removed and I will have to seek legal help to clear my name at your cost. If you want to prevent this action please contact me, or as they say I will see you in court. This is not a threat but a promise.

Tom
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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Ron: If you say Ali and the others were not telling the truth then tell me why did you guys rip me off

AUTHOR: Amir - (Canada)

Ron,
Your reply to Ali and the others is convincing somehow, but, you know real well that I was ripped off with OVER THE ROAD. Not only me saying this, but you admitted to the same.

You are an X-Owner-Operator, you know the minimum charges for using a tractor trailer, I am sure, as you have agreed with me, it can not be $15.50 for GTA pickup and delivery, and it can not be $70 for Mississauga to Windsor and leamington. I admit, I got paid for every single delivery made, but at the same time I tell you that I was not paid fairly for 90% of the jobs, and that is why I left.

Your explanation, this happened because you were not arround, is not acceptable. We are dealing with a company called Over The Road, not a person. The new shield "TOM" your company using is not even a man enough to rectify situations and fulfill his promises.

Over all, it was nice meeting and knowing you, you are a good man, my advice to you "do not defend and associate yourself with ripoff people like OVER THE ROAD.", they are the scum-bag of the transportation business.

I am sure that I can get my proper pay through the small claim court, but it is not worth it.
Regards
Amir
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#10 UPDATE Employee

Richard Meyers

AUTHOR: old timer - (Canada)

Mr Ali got his companies mixed up when speaking about Kennedy Transport and Richard Meyers at Over the Road Transportation. He was lied to and misled by the first company and yes ripped off. When he came to Richard Meyers at OTR in was in a shambles carrying the mess of his experience with him. Richard Meyers tried to help him out with assistance both money and personal support.
Ali had a bad taste in his mouth from Kennedy and regardless of what Mr Meyers or any other company could do for him it wouldn't help.
I myself have spoken to companies like Kennedy and realized right off the bat that it wasn't something for me. They gain their business by bringing in men or women who have little or no transportation or driving experience, hook them into buying a vehicle and than offer them very few driving opportunities. They count on the person's lack of knowledge as a key to selling them a truck. I have heard so many horror stories from various people coming in with the same story.
Richard Meyers through his own mistake takes in some of these people, helps them get back on the road, but as I have said they are so damaged by this time that no matter what you do it is sometimes too late. The hole that they are in finanically is so deep that no one can pull them out. And yes after their first cheque if it doesn't add (meet their financial debt) they quit and turn on Mr Meyers. He is their scapegoat for the problems they have fallen into.
Over the Road Transportation does have it's short falls, but when people like Mr Ali use Ripoff as there means of lashing out at an industry that has not been good to them, it is time for him to take on some of his failures himself. He did admit that his problem didn't orginate with Richard Meyers, but as I have pointed out that he is using Richard Meyers and OTR as his scapegoats.
Mr Ali and people like him deserve the right to complain, but go after the people that actually screwed you. How is your new employer? Mr Meyers did settle with you prior to you going to Ripoff.com. You not only used Mr Meyers as your target to get revenge but you also hurt the employees and their families at OTR because of failures in your life. You owe us all an apolgy if you have any class as a human being.
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#11 UPDATE Employee

Over the Road (Richard Meyers) NOT A RIPOFF

AUTHOR: Dispatcher - (Canada)

To All Interested Parties: Any of the 2 or 3 owner opeators who have submitted complaints against Over the Road Transportation and / or Richard Meyers (Owner) have all been made and you have only heard one side of the story. Companies usually don't use this forum to file or lodge complaints against owner operators who screw over the company but in these cases we are left with no choice. These owner operators screw over the company by quitting or refusing to take out a load which is ready and we lose hundreds of thousands of dollars in future revenue and the other long term owner operators who make their money at Over the Road lose thousands of dollars in revenue and these people who screw over the company don't care because they just go to another transport company. The person know as cool trucker wrote across the original bill of lading and I quote "The Shipper is a F_ _ K_ _G  A_ _ H_ _ E in black magic marker. How do we invoice the company for that shipment. They won't pay for it without the original and how do we send this copy to get paid. What does it say about our company and it's drivers. Any person who would write this on a legal document abviously needs professional help. Just read her response and you will pick up on the rage in her words. By the way she was paid in full according to the contract. One of the real issues in this business is they purchase a truck worth $120,000.00 from a dealer/sales office and are promised to make, in many cases, an unattainable amount of income and they have absolutely no experience. They sign a contract which they may or may not have read. When they quit with no notice they have forgotten that the contract stipulates your money will be held for 90 days. This is common in the industry but as an inexperienced trucker they have no idea and they start saying the company is ripping them off.  The reason for the hold back has various reasons but the two that stand out are, they forget to get the custom documents signed coming back into Canada and for every shipment they forget the Transport Company is fined $1000.00 plus if there are any damage claims the amount of money gets deducted from what is owed to the carrier. Their a dozens of reasons for chargebacks and / or deductions that the carriers get stuck with. When the owner operator won't follow the ministry guides and the carrier gets audited how do we get back the thousands of dollars in fines????

I have personally seen Richard fis owner operator's damaged trucks for half the amount of body shop estmates and had them running in half the time. He has co-signed loans for owner operators and paid for their insurance and authorities and even their rent when they have no money because their truck has been down for few weeks or they spent their money foolishly. These are only a few examples of what he has done for owner operators.

I personally am gong through a cancer issue (last 2 years) and the two companies I worked for previously screwed me over and when I told some people I was going to work for Over the Road I was told to beware. Richard has treated me better than anyone. Richard has accepted and worked aound my appointments, chemo sick days and other downtimes while I'm trying to beat this disease.

I say to any owner operator viewing this site that if you provide a good service to the company, you will be looked after and compensated fairly. There are no politics or favouritism when it comes to assigning loads. We have had owner operators working for this group of companies for 25 years and I'm sure if they were getting ripped off or not getting paid they would have left many years ago. The only ones who claim they've been ripped off have done damge to the company or forgot about the contract they signed or most recently do not have the motivation to succeed in this industry.

I want to point out one more present scenario. We had an owner operator, who as far as we know is still on health leave and he is an older man and when most other companes wouldn't hire him due to his age, Richard gave him a chance. I found out he is working for another carrier and we are still paying insurance coverage for him. He has a signed contract and has some custom documents that were not stamped until a week after he crossed. I'm asking you. Do you think we should hold his cheque until the customs issues are settled? Should we charge him for the insrance we paid while he's working for another company? Should we hold him to his contractual obligations? Is he going to file a complaint to ripoff.com against Richard and Over the Road saying he was ripped off????

In closing, remember there are always two sides to every story. Make sure know both sides before making a judgement on Companies. Check it out yourself. For the owner operators who file pathetic, unreal complaints look in the mirror and stop blaming other people for your short falls, bad decisions, and lack of knowlege and or drive to succeed, not to mention read the legal contracts and abide by them. Remember when you screw over companies your also hurting the other employees who make a living there.

Any owner operator who is looking to work for someone and get back what you put in, come and speak to Richard and have a look at our dispatch board and see what good drivers make in a week. Even a rookie can make it in this business with Over the Road if the have motivation, desire to work hard and can follow instructions.
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#12 General Comment

this scam artist should be in jail for fraud and ripping ppl off

AUTHOR: Realtor8 - (United States of America)

please lets get together and file a lawsuit against this scam artist. i dont know how he and his family enjoy the good life with stealing other people's sweat and blood.
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#13 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Richard Meyers ripped me off also

AUTHOR: Over the Road Victim - (Canada)

Hey Ali we have talked about Rchard dirt bag Meyers, and compared notes on how. and how much this b*****d ripped us off.

I just want to thank you for your post, I wish more people would write because I know of a least a dozen people that he and his company Over the Road Transnsportation Inc. and his other company On the Double Courier have ripped off.

Everyone that comes in those doors gets ripped off, the really sad thing is they (the company)are not just ripping off the driver they are ripping off the drivers family and their livilyhood, what the hell does anyone do to deserve that.

We are all just people trying to earn a living and this dirt bag keeps getting away with it.

I hope you are fighting for your money and continuing to spread the word on Richard Meyers and Over the Road Transportation Inc. and On the Double Courier.

Good luck to everyone and don't give up!

 

 

 

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