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  • Submitted: Tue, June 15, 2010
  • Updated: Mon, February 25, 2013

  • Reported By: Justice For All — 80234 Colorado USA
PMA USA Conseco
8150 N Expressway Suite 1300 Dallas Texas, 75206 Sterling, Colorado United States of America

PMA USA Conseco Performance Matters Associates Bad Company to Work For - Don't Train Field Agents Properly - Discrimination against Woman! Sterling , Colorado

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Scam

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: FRAUD / SCAM / Dishonest PYRAMID Company

*General Comment: PMA USA - Insurance

*UPDATE Employee: A great opportunity for anyone

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I went to work for this company and was promised all this wonderful training and that I didn't have to buy leads.  Asked for referals but didn't get many! Well I was sent to Sterling, Colorado for training with Bob, the first 4 weeks went slow and boring while he was on the phone, talking alot and taking care of his personal business. Meanwhile I had to pay for my own hotel. After a timespan of 2 months he would run home, had to take care of some problem and leave me by myself, he would call and say that he was going to set up some appointments for me and never did, he did this a couple of times, he would tell me that he would show me how he approached businesses and never did, always on the phone. It was just one excuse after another.... Running back home all the time, leaving me to do business in Sterling. This was not the first time a team had been in Sterling the best business had been picked over. The town was struggling on its own and many insurance poor. Most woman had to work in town and the husbands kept the farms. It was hard to reach people and I was a single woman left to run the the country by myself. I would go and talk to many people but many were struggling too. The economy was not good. After talking so much and getting tired. My trainer finally got us some business, but not enough to pay what I had lost with the company. We were promised $1,000 draws in the beginning to keep us afloat and they only gave me $500 which I paid back.I did make a few sales - After that Bob went on vacation so I came back home, no money to pay hotel and didn't want to be alone again, we were suppose to work in teams, after he got back he wasn't working sterling either, I was trying to pay my bills and keep float, I didn't want to go to Sterling and have the same story over again. I kept hoping that Bob would step up to the plate and do what was right! NOT! Another guy came to work a few months earlier and was allowed to work in Greely and not go to Sterling. Rules different for me! It was very hard to stay motivated after all this crap! After that the company decided that everyone had to work together, Ft Morgan team and Sterling Team. I finally told Bobs boss Bruce that I didn't want to work with Bob and why! His boss Bruce acting caring and then they pulled a fast one on me. They told me to take a couple of weeks off and that I could go to work with them, they called me in one week not two and expected me to jump, which I did but they were trying to screw with me! I had to be in Sterling earlier than everyone else, there were 6 people trying to make money in this struggling town, and the Greely guy didn't get their til Wed. I had to go home Monday early due to problems with bank. I was tired of the whole thing, Bruce finally called me on Tuesday not to ask me how I was or if he could do anything to help me.  But to terminate me! It was okay for Bob and The other guy to have personal problems but not me especially after all my money was gone! Oh your not producing enough! Sterling was a struggling town!  No one else was out there either! It was like I was home doing whatever I did! I was trying to survive! This company is a big disorganized bunch of junk! I had talk to others that had gone through the same thing! There was usually a guy from Texas that would call and ask about the training, and how we felt about it for me he never did follow though! I wonder why? Bruce was in Ft Morgan a few miles away and he never checked to make sure I was okay! But Everything is my fault! Bob never in Sterling is still with the company and Greely guy is still with the Company, But Linda Gets Terminated! Imagine that! Never work for this company the rules are different if you are a woman! promise and never deliver! This company is just like the rest! a big fat recycling barrel! I took pride in the product and company and all I got was Shit! BEWARE   BEWARE of  BOB and BRUCE Run as fast as you can! I have to terminate you Linda? They all had problems and did things, but the rules were different for Linda? This company just doesn't give a shit about anyone but themselves! Well Linda Has better things in her Horizons! But Beware of These People!


Save yourselves, your trust, your money, and your sanity! Just stay away from them!


Oh But if your a man you might be okay! Bob did say things to me that were not proper, I have them on tape but I won't go there!

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 06/15/2010 09:46 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/PMA-USA-Conseco/Sterling-Colorado-80751/PMA-USA-Conseco-Performance-Matters-Associates-Bad-Company-to-Work-For-Dont-Train-Fiel-614542. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Scam

AUTHOR: Mike12 - ()

I was brought into the mess by matt L. Do not trust ANYONE in this company. I met chris S when i first started working but he soon left for the military. I worked for 8 months. Matt told me i would get my backends, i made about 9,000 while there so i should have got another 9 in backends. Nope, i got 0. They just recently told me that i actually owe them 3500!! They will never see that money from me, i was lied too about EVERYTHING. Literally everything matt told me about pay, advances, gifts, traveling...all lies. I never even had a chance to read the contract, they sat me down at a state meeting with all the top dogs and put paper after paper in front of me telling me to sign everywhere, not telling me what was what, just saying don't worry just sign here. I was 19 at the time so i was nervous and excited to be starting something new and from what they told me, i thought it was the start of a good life. Absolutely not, don't be fooled by these people. If you want more names ask me, im not sure if im allowed to state there last name and will not do so until i know i am legally allowed. And i would love to go more into detail about everything if anyone is interested. Also, if anyone else goes through the same BS, don't pay a penny. Once you break and pay a penny your locked in. Lets stand up against this!
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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

FRAUD / SCAM / Dishonest PYRAMID Company

AUTHOR: Fortune5ceo - (United States of America)

Before i start..its OBVIOUS the first comment the ONLY "positive" one comes from someone at the home office of PMA....do NOT beleive them they are scum just as is the entire company....

I was AMAZED to google this company i dreadfully used to work for and
see ALL these people had the SAME experience....WOW! I too, was brought
in by Chris Shropshire, with promised of making lots of money and
climbing my way up the ladder (pyramid).  This whole company is made up
of used car salesman type and wouldnt be surprised to see them on CNBC's
show "American Greed: Scams." From top to bottom these guys are
scumbags, just one richer than the next. 

The sell BOGUS policies that NOONE needs or NEVER sees a benefit from.  THEN, if you are the
employee that SELLS a policy then you quit, the hire ANOTHER sucker to
use to come in, cancel ALL the policies YOU wrote (so they can file a
chargeback on commission to YOU) and then the RE-WRITE the policy AGAIN
so the NEW agent makes money...

its such a scam their isnt  enough time in the day by Chris Shropshire and his "superiors" will sell
you a dream and then make you drive all over the place to sit in a
place where NOONE wants what your selling.  its laughable.  DO NOT EVER
WORK FOR PMA - PERFORMANCE MATTERS ASSOCIATES.  Please note i am NOT a
disgruntled employee.. im someone who has been away from this company
for 6 years and VERY successful in my new venture.  I speak HONESTLY and
ONLY to protect those naive to PMA / Chris Shropshire games. 
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#3 General Comment

PMA USA - Insurance

AUTHOR: Emanuel - (United States of America)

Thank you for commenting on your experince. It really helps those of us who want both sides from companies such as this.

Its difficult enough to find meaningful work now especially in the insurance sector. I'll do a little more research should I decide to call them back, but I'll be especially cautious. There seems to be rampant misrepresentations about what some of these Insurance Companies say to prospective hires but have no legitmate structure or for tha matter ethics. Thank you again.
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#4 UPDATE Employee

A great opportunity for anyone

AUTHOR: PMAUSA / Dallas, TX - (United States of America)

Performance Matters Associates (PMAUSA) offers an outstanding opportunity for anyone with an entrepreneurial spirit and strong work ethic.  We provide you the sales system, training, income, awards and recognition while you build your own business as an independent contractor insurance agent.  

Our system has proven successful for many folks who are making more money than they ever thought possible, building renewal income for their future while helping Americans through the outstanding supplemental health and life products we are proud to market for Washington National Insurance Company.  

This business is not for everyone perhaps your personal lifestyle does not allow you to commit, perhaps you just dont have what it takes to be a true self-starter with that entrepreneurial spirit.  

Were sorry for those who did not succeed with us and sincerely wish you the best for the future. However, what we absolutely know for sure and stand behind 100% is that if you combine a strong commitment to working the system with all the tools and resources we offer success is indeed achievable!
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