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Complaint Review: PMG Private Mentoring Group - Jay Abraham

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  • Submitted: Thu, December 09, 2004
  • Updated: Sun, January 23, 2005

  • Reported By:New York City New York
PMG Private Mentoring Group - Jay Abraham
5072 North 300 West Provo, UT 84604 Provo, Utah U.S.A.

PMG Private Mentoring Group Jay Abraham Energy Professional Rip-off! Biggest mistake of my life. Provo, Utah

*Consumer Suggestion: Was First Contact Secured By Deception?

*Author of original report: Refund -- but they kept $900!

*Author of original report: Refund -- but they kept $900!

*Author of original report: Refund -- but they kept $900!

*UPDATE Employee: Refund Given

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Interesting experience with PMG. I went through almost the same thing! I spent $7790. on Jay Abraham's Personal Mentoring Group (PMG) for coaching services, and did not receive anywhere near of what they promised.

My arrangement with PMG was that I'd receive a box of teaching materials (compact disks and books) and 12 talking sessions with one of their trained mentors (Proactive Phase) After that, I would be talking to their staff (Reactive Phase).

Each client comes into the program with different goals. My goal in working with the coach was to (1) secure a publisher for my book manuscript, and generate bulk and individual orders for my previously published children's book.

What happened? Basically, I talked to the coach five times over the phone. I was extremely disappointed because he had no knowledge of how to sell a book, and was pessimistic about me being successful at selling my book. My coach, Mike Ing, told me not to get my hopes up for selling my book, because most authors sell less than 200 copies.

My expectations for the program were high, and I was extremely disappointed. The original salesperson who signed me up, Cory Nichols, told me that I'd be working with the people who helped turn Chicken Soup for the Soul into a bestseller. Cory explained that the Chicken Soup book struggled to get published (no one wanted it) and then PMG helped the book sell millions of copies, and turn it into a bestseller.

PMG will do the same for you, promised Cory Nichols. We'll turn your book into a bestseller! Our coaches are experts at marketing books. Come into this program with high expectations; we'll exceed your expectations! said Cory.

In contrast, Mike Ing suggested that I go to Barnes and Nobles and ask how I could get my book on their shelves. That is not expert advice! I quickly realized that I was working with someone who hardly knew anything about marketing a book, much less turning it into a bestseller.

The reason I signed up with PMG is because I wanted results. I paid a lot of money, and was assigned to a coach that has virtually no knowledge of marketing books. I did not receive the kind of coaching that was promised to me.

I called PMG and asked for my money back. They apologized for what happened, but told me there are no refunds under any circumstances. They assigned me to another coach, but I have not talked to him yet. I postponed my coaching sessions until February 2005, because I wanted to talk to my credit card company and the BBB to see if I could get my money back.

I would not recommend PMG, the Private Mentoring Group, because they do not deliver the quality service for the money they charge. I have been ripped off. Don't let the same thing happen to you!

Nicky
Greenville, South Carolina
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Suggestion

Was First Contact Secured By Deception?

AUTHOR: Anthony - (U.S.A.)

Title 16, Part 238.2(b) of the Code of Federal Regulations states

(b) Even though the true facts are subsequently made known to the viewer, the law is violated if the first contact or interview is secured by deception.

If PMG or whatever they call themselves these days did not tell you everything up front about what they would be doing and what they were going to charge you, they secured their interview and contact by deception. This is fraud.
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#2 Author of original report

Refund -- but they kept $900!

AUTHOR: Nicky - (U.S.A.)

PMG issued a refund but kept $900 as a "re-stocking fee." That seems steep, considering the amateurish coaching I received. The guy who signed me up promised I'd be getting help from the folks who turned "Chicken Soup" into a bestseller. In contrats, my PMG coach suggested I go to Barnes & Noble to ask how books turned up on the shelves. I did contact Mark Victor Hanson's office, but was told that he no longer did endorsements (not even for PMG students.) Initially, I was also promised a one-hour phone call with Jay Abraham himself! This turned out to be a noisy conference call with at least fifty other students. Ultimately, PMG made big promises and did not deliver. I've lost $900, and won't be so gullible next time. On Jay Abraham's cd (which accompanies the PMG program) he asks his listeners to trust him, because he knows what he is talking about. Unfortunately, that is not true of PMG. You can't trust them at all!
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#3 Author of original report

Refund -- but they kept $900!

AUTHOR: Nicky - (U.S.A.)

PMG issued a refund but kept $900 as a "re-stocking fee." That seems steep, considering the amateurish coaching I received. The guy who signed me up promised I'd be getting help from the folks who turned "Chicken Soup" into a bestseller. In contrats, my PMG coach suggested I go to Barnes & Noble to ask how books turned up on the shelves. I did contact Mark Victor Hanson's office, but was told that he no longer did endorsements (not even for PMG students.) Initially, I was also promised a one-hour phone call with Jay Abraham himself! This turned out to be a noisy conference call with at least fifty other students. Ultimately, PMG made big promises and did not deliver. I've lost $900, and won't be so gullible next time. On Jay Abraham's cd (which accompanies the PMG program) he asks his listeners to trust him, because he knows what he is talking about. Unfortunately, that is not true of PMG. You can't trust them at all!
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#4 Author of original report

Refund -- but they kept $900!

AUTHOR: Nicky - (U.S.A.)

PMG issued a refund but kept $900 as a "re-stocking fee." That seems steep, considering the amateurish coaching I received. The guy who signed me up promised I'd be getting help from the folks who turned "Chicken Soup" into a bestseller. In contrats, my PMG coach suggested I go to Barnes & Noble to ask how books turned up on the shelves. I did contact Mark Victor Hanson's office, but was told that he no longer did endorsements (not even for PMG students.) Initially, I was also promised a one-hour phone call with Jay Abraham himself! This turned out to be a noisy conference call with at least fifty other students. Ultimately, PMG made big promises and did not deliver. I've lost $900, and won't be so gullible next time. On Jay Abraham's cd (which accompanies the PMG program) he asks his listeners to trust him, because he knows what he is talking about. Unfortunately, that is not true of PMG. You can't trust them at all!
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#5 UPDATE Employee

Refund Given

AUTHOR: Devin - (U.S.A.)

Refund will be Issued- 12/14
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