• Report: #65513

Complaint Review: Palmetto Marketing

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  • Submitted: Sat, August 09, 2003
  • Updated: Thu, February 17, 2005

  • Reported By:Crown Point Indiana
Palmetto Marketing
7522 Wiles Rd. Ste. 112 Coral Springs, Florida U.S.A.

Palmetto Marketing Inc. Scam artists target good hearted people Coral Springs Florida

*Consumer Comment: all the "happy crews" That magazine scheme has been around for over 50 years.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I see you're yet another brainwashed poor excuse for a salesperson.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I see you're yet another brainwashed poor excuse for a salesperson.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I see you're yet another brainwashed poor excuse for a salesperson.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I see you're yet another brainwashed poor excuse for a salesperson.

*UPDATE Employee: Your all weak (WAB's)

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Not all Mag Crews are Con Artist

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Not all Mag Crews are Con Artist

*Consumer Suggestion: MAYBE THIS GIRL HAD A 'GOOD CREW' BUT NOT ALL OF THEM COULD BE GOOD.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I got my magazines, And not all the crews are into drugs/alcohol

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I Worked For Them..And They Are Like A CULT Following

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I Worked For Them..And They Are Like A CULT Following

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I Worked For Them..And They Are Like A CULT Following

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Not everything is a scam

*Consumer Comment: I felt a bit uneasy but decided to buy one.

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I live on a street where all the residents are one big happy family. We trust and respect each other and their opinions. We are all good hearted people. We have been VIOLATED by a young man named Sean Cubbedge of Palmetto Marketing Inc.

On Friday, August 8,2003, I was coaching my 5 year old sons soccer team. As I pulled in the driveway my husband two-wayed me and asked me to please hurry up and come upstairs, that there was a kid selling magazines to win a trip to Cancun. I went upstairs and met the young man. I looked over the list,and questioned the prices. I told Sean that the prices seemed kind of high (I have not bought magazines in a long time, so I trusted him). He told me that subscription costs have rised considerably. He high fived me after every sentence(annoying????). I purchased one magazine(Game Pro) for 25.97, he then stated that with this purchase I will receive on magazine on the list for 3 years free.

My husband is a car buff so I chose Super Chevy. He told me of the 10.00 processing fee. I proceeded to write PMI a check for 35.97. He left satisfied after writing a supposed message to others to bugg off and quoted Pink Floyd from "Off the Wall" (strange???). When my husband and I went outside to let our children play with the other neighborhood kids, he was speaking to another neighbor and very close friend of mine. She and her husband also purchased magazines. Sean continued to tell us that another neighbor of ours who was expecting her second child also purchased subscriptions from him.

For the last day my neighbor and I have had a bad feeling and were going to call the company and cancel. There was no number listed on the receipt. I checked the internet and to my surprise was brought to this web site. My neighbor and I contacted the local police department and the local newspapers, thank god my bank is open on Sundays so I can cancel my check, the next step is to find out how we can stop this company.

I do have a question. What do the smiley faces and stars mean that they put on the receipt. My neighbor had a smiley face by her name, and I have a star by my phone number. Anyone know.

Thank you to everyone who posted rip-off reports. It is nice to have web sites like this.

Oh just a word of advise, the office who took our report said to ask a solicitor for their town permit next time someone tries to sell us anything. Check with your town or city and see if one is required. If so, please start checking the solicitors.

It is up to us to stop these scams.

Cinthia
Crown Point, Indiana
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 08/09/2003 09:46 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Palmetto-Marketing/Coral-Springs-Florida-33067/Palmetto-Marketing-Inc-Scam-artists-target-good-hearted-people-Coral-Springs-Florida-65513. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

all the "happy crews" That magazine scheme has been around for over 50 years.

AUTHOR: Nancy - (U.S.A.)

To all the "happy" magazine sales children; maybe you all should have spent a little more time in English grammar class and less time tripping around the country lying to gulable people about winning atrip, getting points. etc.

That magazine scheme has been around for over 50 years. I can not for the life of me, see why anyone would still fall for it. They have been trying to" win tuition" "points for a trip" and many other things.

I live in a very small town of about 5000 people. When anyone comes to the door, I first ask to see their license ( I know the town only gives them to the scouts ) then I tell them that noone ever helped me win a trip anywhere, why should I help them? Then I shut the door. And if tehy don't go away, I call the police. It may sound heartless, but then I am NOT the one who gets ripped off.
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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I see you're yet another brainwashed poor excuse for a salesperson.

AUTHOR: C - (U.S.A.)

The only one who is weak, is YOU. I see you're yet another brainwashed poor excuse for a salesperson. Everyone who works for this company are the biggest sack of lying crap to ever exist. Karma's a bitch, so what goes around, comes around. And they all deserve the horrible things which cross their path's. They only care about themselves, if they cared about anyone else then why not fork over the money for permit's and let these people sell magazine's the right way? Because they're a bunch of scared coward's. Especially Tina Cecil. She stays with her husband because of the money, that's all. Other than that, she has no marriage. Seems somebody needs a backbone. So "Brian" snap out of your fantasy world and welcome yourself into the real world.
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I see you're yet another brainwashed poor excuse for a salesperson.

AUTHOR: C - (U.S.A.)

The only one who is weak, is YOU. I see you're yet another brainwashed poor excuse for a salesperson. Everyone who works for this company are the biggest sack of lying crap to ever exist. Karma's a bitch, so what goes around, comes around. And they all deserve the horrible things which cross their path's. They only care about themselves, if they cared about anyone else then why not fork over the money for permit's and let these people sell magazine's the right way? Because they're a bunch of scared coward's. Especially Tina Cecil. She stays with her husband because of the money, that's all. Other than that, she has no marriage. Seems somebody needs a backbone. So "Brian" snap out of your fantasy world and welcome yourself into the real world.
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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I see you're yet another brainwashed poor excuse for a salesperson.

AUTHOR: C - (U.S.A.)

The only one who is weak, is YOU. I see you're yet another brainwashed poor excuse for a salesperson. Everyone who works for this company are the biggest sack of lying crap to ever exist. Karma's a bitch, so what goes around, comes around. And they all deserve the horrible things which cross their path's. They only care about themselves, if they cared about anyone else then why not fork over the money for permit's and let these people sell magazine's the right way? Because they're a bunch of scared coward's. Especially Tina Cecil. She stays with her husband because of the money, that's all. Other than that, she has no marriage. Seems somebody needs a backbone. So "Brian" snap out of your fantasy world and welcome yourself into the real world.
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#5 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I see you're yet another brainwashed poor excuse for a salesperson.

AUTHOR: C - (U.S.A.)

The only one who is weak, is YOU. I see you're yet another brainwashed poor excuse for a salesperson. Everyone who works for this company are the biggest sack of lying crap to ever exist. Karma's a bitch, so what goes around, comes around. And they all deserve the horrible things which cross their path's. They only care about themselves, if they cared about anyone else then why not fork over the money for permit's and let these people sell magazine's the right way? Because they're a bunch of scared coward's. Especially Tina Cecil. She stays with her husband because of the money, that's all. Other than that, she has no marriage. Seems somebody needs a backbone. So "Brian" snap out of your fantasy world and welcome yourself into the real world.
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#6 UPDATE Employee

Your all weak (WAB's)

AUTHOR: Brian - (U.S.A.)

Im sick of hearing all these weak ass people cring on the internet about magcrew. Magcrew is the best time ever. I was on three different crews,2 under PCCS liberators,and imperial,and one under great lakes circ, and am now going back out,to PMI.

It is hard and its not fun all the time but the experience you gain from magcrew is like nothing else. If you can walk into someones house and absolutly convince them of your schpeel, get them to hand over the dough... u can do anything you put your mind to.

It's a buisness and a very lucritive one. I am very excited to get back into it, and wether or not you get the magazines, it is an art to sell mags. Just the experience of traveling to all these cool places meetin all you crazy Jones's is just awsome.The crazy shit ive seen is just incredible from drugs, to sex to shady ass people.

Even though we might be a little bit grimey in our sales pitchs(which is frownd upon by SOME companies, not all) dont we all remember the horrible reputaions car salesman have? Its all the same, a sale is a sale.........
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#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Not all Mag Crews are Con Artist

AUTHOR: Ahni - (U.S.A.)

I worked for PMI under the Degeorge crew #014 for a good 10 months. I saw the entire county and never once did I steal a customers money. Most of the kids that join these crews are in it to travel, escape, have a good time. Yeah you got your ups and downs, if you suck at sales you ride in the back of the car, you get a $20 draw, sometimes you have to sleep on the floor. I guess that should motivate you to be a better sales person. I never lied to people to sell my mags,and I was a power agent. I made alot of money, met a lot of cool people and I learned how to be a great salesperson. I know that my crew wasn't ripping people off, but I can't speak for other crews. I know all the magazines my parents bought from me came, because they are still coming. So before you go shutting down PMI, remember that not all crews are like that.
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#8 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Not all Mag Crews are Con Artist

AUTHOR: Ahni - (U.S.A.)

I worked for PMI under the Degeorge crew #014 for a good 10 months. I saw the entire county and never once did I steal a customers money. Most of the kids that join these crews are in it to travel, escape, have a good time. Yeah you got your ups and downs, if you suck at sales you ride in the back of the car, you get a $20 draw, sometimes you have to sleep on the floor. I guess that should motivate you to be a better sales person. I never lied to people to sell my mags,and I was a power agent. I made alot of money, met a lot of cool people and I learned how to be a great salesperson. I know that my crew wasn't ripping people off, but I can't speak for other crews. I know all the magazines my parents bought from me came, because they are still coming. So before you go shutting down PMI, remember that not all crews are like that.
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#9 Consumer Suggestion

MAYBE THIS GIRL HAD A 'GOOD CREW' BUT NOT ALL OF THEM COULD BE GOOD.

AUTHOR: KATIE - (U.S.A.)

I think that even though this one girl had a good experience, that doesn't mean that what these people are doing is right. The way that they conduct their business is very unprofessional. not to mention the fact that a lot of these kids are being abused. Everyone who has been affected by this should try to turn heads and see what we can do to stop all of this wrongdoing!
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#10 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I got my magazines, And not all the crews are into drugs/alcohol

AUTHOR: Amy - (U.S.A.)

I used to work at P.M.I. and it wasnt a bad company. In fact it was the best experience of my life. I worked for crew #044 though Spencer Sales branch. And not all the crews are into drugs/alcohol. What it did for me was make my seld esteem higher, I made alot of new friends, and I met my husband when I woreked there. We were there for 2 years!!! Then I had a baby. I thougth it was a great experience, traveling around the country, to different states. How many 21 yr olds can say they have been to 38 of the 50 states? I can and I have PMI to thank for that. Just because there is a site that says bad things about this company doesnt mean it is a rip off . I bought quite a few magazines when I worked there and I recieved them all. in fact I have even bought some since I left the buisness and I received them. It takes 60-120 days to recieve them. If you read your receipt you would know that. And one more thing in one of the pther stories it sd that Vincent ( vinny) pitts said that the company wasnt responsible for the kids' actions, he was right when you work there you are an independent contractor, so that means you are responsible for yourself and you work for your self
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I Worked For Them..And They Are Like A CULT Following

AUTHOR: Lewis - (U.S.A.)

I Worked For PMI or The Pitts Sales Crew...And I Was In Detroit, For 1 Week And Then Indianapolis the next week before they fired me for refusing to sell (Scam) People i was paid 20 bucks a day while i was there...we stayed in a cheap hotel...2 to 3 people to a room..If u didnt make any sales..they would make you sleep on the floor....I know for a fact that several co-workers.. if thats what u want to call it were getting high, drunk, and everything else u can think of...and every morning between monday and friday they wake you up at 7:00 In the morning..and then by 8:30 U Get Into A Econovan..And They Take U To Eat (But You PAy For Ur Own FOod As Oppsed To There Want Ad where it says "All Transportation And Food Paid For") but anyways..P.M.I. Is A Scam A BIG One....And Im Sorry To All You Guys That..Were Effected By It..And Thank God I Didnt make any sales....So I DOnt HAve To Live With THe Fact That I Cheated Someone When I Didnt Know IT..So I Hope THis Info Helps...My Main Reason Is I Want To Get Revenge For What Happend To Me On My LAst Day There..Which Was I GOt Cut By One Of The Seats In There van And Needed Stiches...They Refused To Take Me To The Hospital..And were more worried about me going home to lorain, oh then taking me to the hostpital to fix my wound...so i had to ride a bus from indianapolis to lorain ohio with nothing but a ACE bandage and 2 bandaids home...
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#12 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I Worked For Them..And They Are Like A CULT Following

AUTHOR: Lewis - (U.S.A.)

I Worked For PMI or The Pitts Sales Crew...And I Was In Detroit, For 1 Week And Then Indianapolis the next week before they fired me for refusing to sell (Scam) People i was paid 20 bucks a day while i was there...we stayed in a cheap hotel...2 to 3 people to a room..If u didnt make any sales..they would make you sleep on the floor....I know for a fact that several co-workers.. if thats what u want to call it were getting high, drunk, and everything else u can think of...and every morning between monday and friday they wake you up at 7:00 In the morning..and then by 8:30 U Get Into A Econovan..And They Take U To Eat (But You PAy For Ur Own FOod As Oppsed To There Want Ad where it says "All Transportation And Food Paid For") but anyways..P.M.I. Is A Scam A BIG One....And Im Sorry To All You Guys That..Were Effected By It..And Thank God I Didnt make any sales....So I DOnt HAve To Live With THe Fact That I Cheated Someone When I Didnt Know IT..So I Hope THis Info Helps...My Main Reason Is I Want To Get Revenge For What Happend To Me On My LAst Day There..Which Was I GOt Cut By One Of The Seats In There van And Needed Stiches...They Refused To Take Me To The Hospital..And were more worried about me going home to lorain, oh then taking me to the hostpital to fix my wound...so i had to ride a bus from indianapolis to lorain ohio with nothing but a ACE bandage and 2 bandaids home...
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#13 UPDATE EX-employee responds

I Worked For Them..And They Are Like A CULT Following

AUTHOR: Lewis - (U.S.A.)

I Worked For PMI or The Pitts Sales Crew...And I Was In Detroit, For 1 Week And Then Indianapolis the next week before they fired me for refusing to sell (Scam) People i was paid 20 bucks a day while i was there...we stayed in a cheap hotel...2 to 3 people to a room..If u didnt make any sales..they would make you sleep on the floor....I know for a fact that several co-workers.. if thats what u want to call it were getting high, drunk, and everything else u can think of...and every morning between monday and friday they wake you up at 7:00 In the morning..and then by 8:30 U Get Into A Econovan..And They Take U To Eat (But You PAy For Ur Own FOod As Oppsed To There Want Ad where it says "All Transportation And Food Paid For") but anyways..P.M.I. Is A Scam A BIG One....And Im Sorry To All You Guys That..Were Effected By It..And Thank God I Didnt make any sales....So I DOnt HAve To Live With THe Fact That I Cheated Someone When I Didnt Know IT..So I Hope THis Info Helps...My Main Reason Is I Want To Get Revenge For What Happend To Me On My LAst Day There..Which Was I GOt Cut By One Of The Seats In There van And Needed Stiches...They Refused To Take Me To The Hospital..And were more worried about me going home to lorain, oh then taking me to the hostpital to fix my wound...so i had to ride a bus from indianapolis to lorain ohio with nothing but a ACE bandage and 2 bandaids home...
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#14 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Not everything is a scam

AUTHOR: Sarah - (U.S.A.)

Okay people not everyone who buys magazines through this company is ripped off sometimes it takes a little longer for the magazine to arrive the orders get backed up. The stars and smiley faces are a sign of personality the kids that come to your door are kids and most of them do have personality.
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#15 Consumer Comment

I felt a bit uneasy but decided to buy one.

AUTHOR: Dee - (U.S.A.)

This past weekend a girl came up to sell me magazines. I felt a bit uneasy but decided to buy one. Since I felt uneasy, I opted to pay cash rather than give a check with my acct. number on it. Now, after reading this, I am seeing my first instinct may have been correct. Lesson learned should I not receive these magazines....TRUST YOUR INSTINCTS! I was also wondering about the stars and stuff on the "BUGG OFF" tag she gave me. I thought she was just being cute until I saw this. It's scary what goes on in the world.
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