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  • Submitted: Mon, November 26, 2012
  • Updated: Mon, December 03, 2012

  • Reported By: Austin Olk — Omaha Nebraska United States of America
Paragon Leads / PG Leads
Internet United States of America

Paragon Leads / PG Leads mikhol caldwell Tried to Scam me. I asked why there is a cost. He responded saying im a broke jew kiling nazi and he wants to f**k my mother.Internet

*Consumer Comment: Mike Caldwell IS what this person claims

*Author of original report: He said he wanted to F*** my mother..

*Author of original report: He lies and tells people no one will believe them for posting facts of his business.

*Author of original report: Claims no cost now?

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Now you're threatening me!

*Author of original report: ATTORNEY HAS BEEN CONTACTED

*Author of original report: Classic case Liar vs Truth

*Author of original report: SLANDER CASE!

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Austin last name Olk is upset because I chose not to work with him.

*Author of original report: Calling me repeatedly starting at 7:49AM

*Author of original report: Why do you claim I am not qualified?

*Author of original report: Better Business Bureau link

*Author of original report: Mike Caldwell is a blatant liar. Photos prove

*Author of original report: again. moron=u

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Statement is false.

*Author of original report: same thing he did to someone else

*Author of original report: youre an idiot

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: This report is pure comedy!

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I will cut and paste the emails recieved.

You're a broke Jew killing nazi that got pissed off because you can't afford the operational costs.

On 26.11.2012 14:47, austin o wrote:
> like i said, it was you who initiated contact. then tried to scam me.
> then harassed me. you will shed light on your own misfortune.
>
> i havent done anything wrong.
>
>> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:46:06 -0600

>> Subject: Re: FW: Austin O - Resume - Phone Sales
>>
>> All of this is being recorded. The emails and the phone calls. Keep going poor boy.
>>
>> On 26.11.2012 14:44, austin o wrote:
>> > Subject: RE: Austin O - Resume - Phone Sales
>> > Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:04:48 -0500
>> >
>> > Why would I have a rebuttal for a broke low life. [continued below]....
..... Youre a self professed sales expert that has a problem with operational costs.
>> > Thats hilarious. A penny pinching sales expert. Thats a first.
>> >
>> > Report whatever you want to. No one will listen to you. Ive done nothing wrong besides told a loser to kick rocks, lol.
>> >
>> > FROM: austin o [mailto:(((REDACTED))) @hotmail.com]
>> > SENT: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:35 PM
>> > TO: mcaldwell@pgleads.com
>> > SUBJECT: RE: Austin O - Resume - Phone Sales
>> >
>> > I am expert in sales? you have no rebuttal to ? of cost? You ARE NOT PROFESSIONAL. IM REPORTING YOU.
>> >
>> > From: mcaldwell@pgleads.com [10]
>> > To: (((REDACTED)))hotmail.com [11]
>> > Subject: RE: Austin O - Resume - Phone Sales
>> > Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2012 14:31:04 -0500
>> >
>> > In that case, take care.
>> > Ill remove you from the list.
>> > Have a great day.
>> >
>> > FROM: austin o [mailto:(((REDACTED)))@hotmail.com [12]]
>> > SENT: Monday, November 26, 2012 2:28 PM
>> > TO: mike caldwell
>> > SUBJECT: Re: Austin O - Resume - Phone Sales
>> >
>> > Why would someone pay you to work?
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> > On Nov 26, 2012, at 1:25 PM, "mike caldwell" wrote:
>> >> Good Afternoon Austin,
>> >>
>> >> The operational costs to get started are $397. If that is an issue, we have financing through Paypals six months same as cashprogram.  Let me know if youre interested.
>> >> Thanks
>> >> FROM: austin o [mailto:(((REDACTED)))@hotmail.com [8]]
>> >> SENT: Monday, November 26, 2012 12:02 AM
>> >> TO: mike caldwell
>> >> SUBJECT: Re: Austin O - Resume - Phone Sales
>> >>
>> >> Yes I am still interested. There seem to be questions in regards to cost. Please explain any costs to me involved with starting up.
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> On Nov 25, 2012, at 10:42 PM, "mike caldwell" wrote:
>> >>> Good Evening,
>> >>> This email is to follow up with you and see if youre still interested in working from home.
>> >>>
>> >>> Here are two reasons you should join our company:
>> >>> 1) Christmas.
>> >>> a) Just 4 sales per week will make you $5,000 by Christmas.
>> >>> Thats a very good Christmas.
>> >>> b) Keep in mind, youre going to talk to 10 15 people per day and our closing ratio is 2 out of 10.
>> >>> 2) Tax Season.
>> >>> a) Tax season is the best time for us. The climate of the country is much better.
>> >>> b) The buying process will be a lot shorter since most people will have addition money available due to tax refunds.

>> >>> Heres the like for information regarding the inbound call center:
>> >>> http://www.screencast.com/t/yt4T3YB1EI9 [1]
>> >>> If you have any questions please contact me at 888-950-7904.
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Michael Caldwell
>> >>> 888-950-7904
 

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#1 Consumer Comment

Mike Caldwell IS what this person claims

AUTHOR: Ray Keller - ()

He stole money from me (Ray Keller) and never delivered.  Anyone who reads this and does work with you Mike (con artist) Caldwell will kick themselves later, no question.  Stay away from him people.  Listen to your gut when it tells you "no".  As much as you want to succeed and make money, learn from people like myself who paid him $397 and worked my butt off and rarely got a call even leaving his software running all day for an entire week. 

Mike Caldwell will steal your money and not lose a wink of sleep over you.  His company names are Paragon Leads and Lead Net Pro

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#2 Author of original report

He said he wanted to F*** my mother..

AUTHOR: Austin Olk - (United States of America)

Who is elected..

Here is a picture of her laughing at the judge who appointed her.

She has been re-elected.  Uncontested race.

I really hope you realize just how bad you have messed up.
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#3 Author of original report

He lies and tells people no one will believe them for posting facts of his business.

AUTHOR: Austin - (United States of America)

Unfotuntely then he writes false comments claiming we are writing false comments. I only speak truth.  This man needs to be taken out. He makes a weak attempt to manipulate people into giving him close to 400$. Then when you ask a question he makes disrespectful racist comments.

Then when you report him he calls you a liar for trying to alert others to his scam. (unfortunately for him, at this point he has posted false comments which hurt our characters, you can sue him at this point because when looking for a job one is likely to find reports of me being a liar from this man. Which I am not.  

His posts calling us liars are him claiming we are what he is.  We are not.  Do not do business with this man.  He will burn in hell.  No reason for him to drag you down.  Contact an attorney if he posts lies about you telling the truth. Here in this photo is my email he sent saying how it doesnt matter if I report him, because nobody will listen.
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#4 Author of original report

Claims no cost now?

AUTHOR: Austin Olk - (United States of America)

This man told me I need 397$ to start.  Yet on this site he says that there are no costs.

This is the 3rd Lie I have proven on this website.  Yet he still continues to slander me...

He has done this to another person, and then treated them the same.

It seems that every word he says is a blatant lie.

He wrote what he wrote.  I do not edit stuff and then post it.  If i did, he would be trying to sue me for those statements.  As he knows they are true, he is bluffing legal issues.  

I am not.  Attorney has been contacted.

Youre digging your own grave deeper, and deeper, with each exposed lie.  Just give up and leave me alone and realize you writing my name in your posts is what has gotten you into a lawsuit.

Click on the photo.  It proves his last statement is a lie.  AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN!
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#5 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Now you're threatening me!

AUTHOR: PGLeads - (United States of America)

Your last message is incriminating.  It is proof positive of what's called aggravated menacing.

Threatening physical harm. 

I will be contacting law enforcement in your city.
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#6 Author of original report

ATTORNEY HAS BEEN CONTACTED

AUTHOR: Austin Olk - (United States of America)

Your Libelous statements have just generated a lawsuit.  You should have just accepted what you did.  But you decided to lie about it.  In the lie.  You have slandered me.  

Enjoy.
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#7 Author of original report

Classic case Liar vs Truth

AUTHOR: Austin Olk - (United States of America)

As usual.  The truthful person speaks only truth.  

As usual.  The liar says the truthful person is lying.

Yet, it is the liar who is claiming the other person is doing what they are doing.

In this case.  The liar has a libel case.  The photos are proof.  Zoom in to your hearts content.  The only person who edited those writings, was
Michael Caldwell aka
Mikhol Caldwell.

Because you have 2 names, you get 2 bullets...
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#8 Author of original report

SLANDER CASE!

AUTHOR: Austin Olk - (United States of America)

The emails were not manufactured.  They are your writings.  I am contacting an attorney as I still have the emails.

Your message of slander will cost you.  

You can continue preaching speaking evil Im still gonna find you.
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#9 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Austin last name Olk is upset because I chose not to work with him.

AUTHOR: PGLeads - (United States of America)

Just wanted to wait and see how much would be said before I posted another response.

First off,  The emails in the images are totally fake.  He manufactured them to say what he wanted some how.  Here's the thing...I AM NOT JEWISH, LOL.  I don't know why he chose to single out Jewish people and imply that they are all racist people that can't wait to call someone a Nazi, but I highly disagree and I'm appalled by the implication.

Secondly,  My company does not require $399 to become an employee.  Paragon Lead Solutions is a lead generation company i.e. "Lead Solutions."  We work with hundreds of independent contractors that hire individuals to take calls for them in their respective businesses and pay based on commission.  There is another option to join the software sales portion of the opportunity with as independent sales rep.  That option does require some start up costs be paid. 

Some people don't qualify for either.  Here's what I mean by qualify...

If you have to be convinced or "sold" on joining as a telesales rep and helping the independent reps, or if you have to be convinced or "sold" on becoming an independent sales reps within the software company, this isn't for you.  We're looking for leaders that will see a good opportunity and blitz into action.  The most important thing in business is avoiding as many headaches as possible.  A smart businessman will distance himself from a person as soon as he sees that person will be more of a headache than a success story. 
Having said that...

Once again, anyone that will form an opinion of our business based on the false statement from someone that didn't qualify, didn't pay anything, called me moron and idiot while saying I called him names, not to mention assumed I was Jewish and created false statements based on that assumption, and was rejected, it's probably better that you not join anyway. 
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#10 Author of original report

Calling me repeatedly starting at 7:49AM

AUTHOR: Austin Olk - (United States of America)

So now im receiving multiple calls starting at 7:49 AM central time.

I have been told that I am "not qualified" for this scam.  Yet, they still initiate contact to harass me because of my report on this company.
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#11 Author of original report

Why do you claim I am not qualified?

AUTHOR: Austin Olk - (United States of America)

When you advertise like this.  

"ANYONE CAN DO THIS"
http://www.pgleads.com/workathome.htm
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#12 Author of original report

Better Business Bureau link

AUTHOR: Austin Olk - (United States of America)

The BBB cannot locate this company.  Check the complaints. 

http://www.bbb.org/dayton/business-reviews/marketing-programs-and-services/paragon-lead-solutions-in-dayton-oh-24351/complaints#breakdown
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#13 Author of original report

Mike Caldwell is a blatant liar. Photos prove

AUTHOR: Austin Olk - (United States of America)

You are the only one that is slandering anyone.  Calling me a liar when I have proof of my statements.

You have 0 credibility.  When you have 0 credibility, it translates in the court room.  Its the only thing that matters in a court room.  Im just glad I have posted this so that when someone does sue you.  All of this information has already been gathered.
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#14 Author of original report

again. moron=u

AUTHOR: Austin Olk - (United States of America)

i have a 143 iq and still its nothing more than giving you $400 that qualifies someone for your scam.  Why do you pretend being legitimate on this site, yet you are an immature little bitch behind a computer unwilling to provide a factual location or to even answer 1 simple question...

Why does it cost 400$ to have the ability to send someone an email asking for $400 so that they, in turn, learn that you are doing nothing more than scamming people for money.  You mention nothing of work and run like a dog when that simple question is brought up.  Then you attribute it to operation costs?  

Quit pretending that people arent qualified for your bullsh*.  Youre the scum of the earth and you will rot in an eternal abyss.  
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#15 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Statement is false.

AUTHOR: PGLeads - (United States of America)

Once again the person that filed this complaint is Austin, last name is Olk.

Austin,
Once again you are attempting to sabotage my business by posting ridiculous comments.
With regards to your funny comment,

What's funny is the only two comments are from people I decided not to work with.  There are no comments from people that have actually worked with me or are a part of our network.  I think this says a lot.  Once again, the person that would form their opinion based on your post isn't someone I would want to do business with anyway.  Posting a list of emails that have been edited by you doesn't prove anything.

Do us both a favor and let's just move on.

Good Luck and I'm sorry you're not a fit for what we're doing.
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#16 Author of original report

same thing he did to someone else

AUTHOR: Austin Olk - (United States of America)

http://www.ripoffreport.com/-mike-caldwell-parag/on-line-business/-mike-caldwell-paragon-lead-so-cf007.htm

funny, everyone seems to be lying except mike caldwell?

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#17 Author of original report

youre an idiot

AUTHOR: Austin Olk - (United States of America)

if you click on the links for the photos it proves that you said that stuff.  you called the last incident pure comedy also that is listed on this site.

i do not want to do business with you.  i very much am over qualified to be dealing with someone like you.  if you dont do business correctly,  you will be snuffed out of the business world.
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#18 REBUTTAL Individual responds

This report is pure comedy!

AUTHOR: PGLeads - (United States of America)

The gentlemen that made this post is Austin out of Nebraska.

Austin,
In the United States of America, we have the constitutional right to decide who we want to do business with and who we want to avoid doing business with.  I'm sorry that you don't possess the qualifications I am looking for.  No money was taken from you or asked of you.  You did not pass the qualification process.  Why you think it's necessary to take the internet and accuse me of scamming you is ridiculous.  You weren't scammed, you were passed on. 

In an attempt to sabotage our business, you are now posting totally false statements. Any person that would make a decision based on your post is someone I wouldn't want on my team anyway.  So nice try.

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