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  • Submitted: Mon, January 07, 2008
  • Updated: Tue, August 13, 2013

  • Reported By:Vero Beach Florida
Pathfinder Business Strategies
10315 102nd Ter Sebastian, Florida United States of America
  • Phone: 772-228-7730
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  • Category: Tutoring

REVIEW: Pathfinder Business Strategies and Drew Miles 100% commitment to customer satisfaction, pledges to resolve any issues. Feel safe, confident & secure when doing business with Pathfinder Business Strategies and Drew Miles. Excellent opportunity for entrepreneurs to keep more of what they are making instead of giving it away in taxes while protecting their assets. Sebastian Florida


*UPDATE ...Pathfinder Business Strategies & Drew Miles offer commitment to the success of their clients. Verified by Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program.. The program that benefits the consumer, assures them of complete satisfaction & confidence when doing business

*Consumer Comment: Yet, with one simple strategy that you gave me during our last coaching session, I increased my income by over $25,000 per month!

*Consumer Comment: These simple strategies saved me more than $60,000 in one year!

*Consumer Suggestion: The knowledge I have received from him and Pathfinder has been right on and continues to benefit me and my company day in and day out."

*Consumer Comment: I believe with the knowledge I've gained from Pathfinder and your understanding of the Tax Code, I have a real shot at achieving all my financial goal

*Consumer Comment: We have saved more than $95,000 since we became part of Pathfinders.

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Response from Drew Miles

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Response from Drew Miles

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SPECIAL UPDATE: August 13 2013: Pathfinder Business Strategies Institute remains committed to increased customer satisfaction and has improved their business practices over the years to better serve their customers. Pathfinder Business Strategies Institute is truly dedicated to making sure their customers are satisfied and that any complaints which do arise are addressed promptly and fairly.

To date, Pathfinder Business Strategies Institute has made good faith efforts to resolve all complaints reported on Rip-off Report. Based on our experience, the member business has proven to be among the top members of the Ripoff Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation and Customer Satisfaction Program as a Verified Safe Business.

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Positive Rating and Recognition has been given to for its Commitment to Excellence in customer service.

Ripoff Report's investigation of Pathfinder Business Strategies and Drew Miles uncovered an ongoing commitment to total client satisfaction. This means that potential clients can expect the company will always work towards finding a mutually satisfactory resolution to any complaints or concerns; more importantly, executives at Pathfinder Business Strateiges are concerned with the immediate & long-term success of their distributors and, Pathfinder Business Strategies is listening carefully to the feedback its clients give. As Drew Miles stated, After all, when becoming creative to make things better, making changes to improve the business isn't always easy, but it's well worth the effort that's required for constant improvement.

One top executive of the company stated to Ripoff Report that, Pathfinder Business Strategies corporate philosophy is based on the premise that Pathfinder Business Strategies will continually seek improvement in every aspect in every department of the company. From the first phone call we are committed to excellence. Because we listen to our clients, we know what needs to get done.

Ripoff Report has confirmed that Pathfinder Business Strategies employs a seasoned, professional staff specifically dedicated to helping their clients succeed. Couple this with the company's Support Center, and you have a support program that is top-notch. Perhaps this is the reason why Pathfinder Business Strategies has never had a single complaint with any governmental agency. This is remarkable considering the company has been in business for many years and has saved thousands of people thousands of dollars in taxes while helping them protect their assets!

Ripoff Report has also discovered that majority of reports posted against Pathfinder Business Strategies and Drew Miles were all from the same person who is a competitor attempting to slander their good name by filing the bogus reports. Ripoff Report is occasionally abused this way, so we remind everyone that it is illegal to use Ripoff Report to slander any person or business.

It is our opinion that potential clients can feel confident in the fact that Pathfinder Business Strategies and Drew Miles have worked with thousands of clients and have successfully helped these people save money in taxes. ..any problems with any member of the Corporate Advocacy Program.. consumers should just contact us here at Rip-off Report..

In summary, after our investigation, which included discussions with Drew Miles, Ripoff Report is convinced that the company has been and is committed to quality delivery of its products and services resulting in total & complete client satisfaction.

Read more about Pathfinder Business Strategies and Drew Miles Commitment to Excellence and Total Consumer Satisfaction and why consumers should feel safe, confident and secure when doing business with any member of Rip-off Report's Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program. ..yes, a long name for a program that does a lot for both consumers and businesses alike.

Read about Ripoff Report Corporate Advocacy Business Remediation & Customer Satisfaction Program,..A program that benefits the consumer, assures them of complete satisfaction and confidence when doing business with a member business. this program works.

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Pathfinder Business Strategies Asset Protection and Tax Strategies Coaching Debacle Sebastian Florida

In the summer of 2006, I purchased a Pathfinder Tax Strategy and Asset Protection Course via Amsco Marketing LLC. Subsequently, I was sent 4 CDs and an Incorporating Brilliance Book. The Incorporating Brilliance book was the written form of the 4 CDs.

I reviewed the information in the book as I listened to the CDs. Based on the information in the book, I took many notes on asset protection. Subsequently, I met with my attorney to review the notes to determine the best course of action to protect my personal assets. After reviewing several pages in the book, my attorney informed me that the information was outdated. Specifically, my attorney stated that the information detailed in the Incorporating Brilliance book was "pre George W Bush" and used the terms "misinformation" and "consumer rip-off". Based on my attorney's comments, I came to the conclusion that I could not trust any tax or asset protection recommendations that would be provided to me in the 6 Pathfinder coaching sessions that I would have received.

Therefore, I contacted Pathfinder Business Strategies LLC to inform them that I was canceling my agreement with their company due to the misinformation provided in the Incorporating Brilliance book and CDs. I also informed PFBS that I had contacted my credit card company to cancel payment.

Unfortunately, since I broke the seal on the book, the Credit Card company would only fight for half the return. Hence, I received outdated information for $1350!

My recommendation is to read Sandy Botkin's book titled "Lower Your Taxes - Big Time (2007-2008 edition)" and then consult a local tax attorney. I am certain you will get more for your money and be a lot happier with the results.

Buyer Beware Vero Beach, Florida
U.S.A.


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#1 Consumer Comment

Yet, with one simple strategy that you gave me during our last coaching session, I increased my income by over $25,000 per month!

AUTHOR: Pathfinder Business Strategies - (U.S.A.)

Drew,



I've been in business for over 15 years. Yet, with one simple strategy that you gave me during our last coaching session, I increased my income by over $25,000 per month! I can't wait to se what's next.



Dr. Lou O'Conner

Menlo Park California
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#2 Consumer Comment

These simple strategies saved me more than $60,000 in one year!

AUTHOR: Pathfinder Business Strategies - (U.S.A.)

I met Drew shortly after my book became a #1 best seller. My income had started to skyrocket and my accountant told me to brace myself because I was going to get hit hard with taxes. I needed immediate tax help, or I was going to get creamed. Drew gave me two strategies that could benefit me immediately. These simple strategies saved me more than $60,000 in one year.

Mike Litman



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#3 Consumer Suggestion

The knowledge I have received from him and Pathfinder has been right on and continues to benefit me and my company day in and day out."

AUTHOR: Pathfinder Business Strategies - (U.S.A.)

"Drew has always been there with the answers I needed to grow my business and take it to the next level. The knowledge I have received from him and Pathfinder has been right on and continues to benefit me and my company day in and day out."

Mark Freeman
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#4 Consumer Comment

I believe with the knowledge I've gained from Pathfinder and your understanding of the Tax Code, I have a real shot at achieving all my financial goal

AUTHOR: Pathfinder Business Strategies - (U.S.A.)

Dear Drew,

I wish to thank you and your staff for helping me gain a clearer understanding of my tax and asset protection issues. After working with you and my staff, I am better prepared to face the challenges of growing a new company in hard economic times. I believe with the knowledge I've gained from Pathfinder and your understanding of the Tax Code, I have a real shot at achieving all my financial goals.

I would also like to compliment your entire staff. Everyone, including John Scott and Tim McGillberry, were not just knowledgeable, but they showed real concern and determination to answer my questions and solve my most pressing needs. They made confronting what is for me a difficult and emotional issue a clear and simple matter of problem/solution. By helping me restructure my business and personal finances they eased my fears. Perhaps most important, having been through two IRS audits in the past, I now feel confident that should I go through that process again, I have a smart, documented, legal game plan for support.

I look forward to taking my business to the next level and bringing Pathfinder along as part of my wealth team.

All the best,

Barry Shapiro

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#5 Consumer Comment

We have saved more than $95,000 since we became part of Pathfinders.

AUTHOR: Pathfinder Business Strategies - (U.S.A.)

We have been with Pathfinders Business Strategy, LLC since late 2007 to help us not only with business asset protection, but also to gain a working knowledge of the tax code. With three advanced degrees between my wife and I (physician, PhD, and JD), Pathfinders still found deductions that our accountants have missed for more than 13 years. Our accountants are now well-versed and armed with the correct tax codes. We have saved more than $95,000 since we became part of Pathfinders. In addition, our corporate structure and our assets are now protected from lawsuits that plague many businesses, especially in this economy. Another advantage of being a member of Pathfinders is the ongoing education, essential as the confusing tax codes change every year. This ongoing education includes our subscription to the Pinnacle, a monthly magazine produced by Pathfinders. While Pathfinders Business Strategy provides the tools and guidance, we do the workand it has paid off in protecting and expanding our business.





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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Response from Drew Miles

AUTHOR: Pathfinder Business Strategies - (U.S.A.)

Drew Miles here. Until recently, our company policy was not to respond to these communications. However, in the interest of providing the complete picture to the public, I decided to respond to this report personally even though it was submitted back in January 2008.



I assure you that all of the tax saving and asset protection strategies Pathfinder teaches are viable and up to date. Keep in mind that the Tax Code is continuously modified by several sources: Congress, Court decisions, and IRS revenue rulings. Written materials, including ours, become outdated; that's just the nature of tax information.



However, our programs are continually updated to keep pace with the Tax Code. For example, our programs provide for weekly webinars that are taught by either me or other professionals including Tax Attorneys and CPAs. The information contained in the client-only section of our website including the forms, contracts, code information, etc. is also updated regularly sometimes weekly.



For example, please review the post below which was provided by an Attorney from Las Vegas, Nevada on February 12, 2009:





Submitted: 2/12/2009 9:13:51 PM

Modified: 2/12/2009 9:46:18 PM



Janet

Las Vegas, Nevada

U.S.A.

Those are legitimate deductions

Hi Michael,



I have no connection with Drew Miles or his organization, but I am an attorney, and I have spent considerable time studying ways to reduce income taxes. I read your complaint and your update, and just wanted to share a couple of thoughts with you.



You don't have to have a large business in order to save a lot of money on your income taxes. Even if you have a small, closely-held corporation, your corporation is entitled to take the same corporate deductions as the big boys, like IBM or Microsoft, so long as your business qualifies for the deduction.



First, you mention that the IRS expects you to be 'reasonable.' I'm not aware of that requirement. The IRS says this about business expense deductions: 'To be deductible, a business expense must be both ordinary and necessary. An ordinary expense is one that is common and accepted in your industry. A necessary expense is one that is helpful and appropriate for your trade or business. An expense does not have to be indispensable to be considered necessary.' (quoted directly from the IRS web site)



To help you find out the 'ordinary' cost of a meeting room for board meetings, call several local hotels in your area, and tell them you need to rent a small conference room for your company to conduct its board meeting. The answers you get will help you appreciate the numbers that the IRS regularly sees for those expenses, and will thus consider 'ordinary.' Remember, when the IRS is looking at your tax return, it has no idea how many directors you have, or where the meeting is.



So the next question is, 'Are board meetings necessary?' Absolutely. In fact, corporation laws require them.



I know an estate planning attorney who also suggests the next deduction you mention - hiring your children as models for your advertising. He does that in his own business. Regardless of what kind of business you have, you can find a way to incorporate photos of a couple of darling kids into your brochure or online advertisement. Then, if you want to know what the going rate is for photo models, call a couple of modeling agencies and ask them what the fee would be for a photo shoot. That would be the number the IRS is used to seeing, and thus would consider 'ordinary.' And if you have people in photos in your advertising materials, it is necessary that you pay them. (I know at least two attorneys who do this - the estate planning attorney I mentioned and a tax attorney I know.)



You mention the modeling fee that Drew suggests is large. I don't know, because I haven't participated in Drew's program, but the amount that I would expect him to mention matches the maximum amount that can be contributed to a Roth IRA in any one year. (Does that sound familiar?)



I think you're just concerned because these ideas are something new that you're unfamiliar with. But they can be valid ways for you to legally and legitimately reduce your income taxes, if they are appropriate in your circumstances. Just understand that what the IRS will consider 'ordinary' may be a much higher number than you consider 'reasonable.'



Obviously, I know nothing about your circumstances, so I have no idea whether these deductions are appropriate for your situation. But I can tell you that the suggestions you mention are legitimate. If you choose not to implement the suggestions they made, then I would think you wouldn't qualify for a refund.



I hope this information helps you understand.

Janet





Pathfinder also provides for one on one coaching so our clients can have their individual questions and concerns addressed. It does take some work to implement the strategies we teach. However, we have found again and again that our clients who put in the needed time and effort to get the complete picture always get the results that we promise.



In the interest of thoroughness, I would gladly offer to meet with Buyer Beware in person in our office, as we are located near your home. I am confident that after you give yourself an opportunity to experience the complete program, you will achieve the desired results.



Sincerely,



Drew Miles
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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Response from Drew Miles

AUTHOR: Pathfinder Business Strategies - (U.S.A.)

Drew Miles here. Until recently, our company policy was not to respond to these communications. However, in the interest of providing the complete picture to the public, I decided to respond to this report personally even though it was submitted back in January 2008.



I assure you that all of the tax saving and asset protection strategies Pathfinder teaches are viable and up to date. Keep in mind that the Tax Code is continuously modified by several sources: Congress, Court decisions, and IRS revenue rulings. Written materials, including ours, become outdated; that's just the nature of tax information.



However, our programs are continually updated to keep pace with the Tax Code. For example, our programs provide for weekly webinars that are taught by either me or other professionals including Tax Attorneys and CPAs. The information contained in the client-only section of our website including the forms, contracts, code information, etc. is also updated regularly sometimes weekly.



For example, please review the post below which was provided by an Attorney from Las Vegas, Nevada on February 12, 2009:





Submitted: 2/12/2009 9:13:51 PM

Modified: 2/12/2009 9:46:18 PM



Janet

Las Vegas, Nevada

U.S.A.

Those are legitimate deductions

Hi Michael,



I have no connection with Drew Miles or his organization, but I am an attorney, and I have spent considerable time studying ways to reduce income taxes. I read your complaint and your update, and just wanted to share a couple of thoughts with you.



You don't have to have a large business in order to save a lot of money on your income taxes. Even if you have a small, closely-held corporation, your corporation is entitled to take the same corporate deductions as the big boys, like IBM or Microsoft, so long as your business qualifies for the deduction.



First, you mention that the IRS expects you to be 'reasonable.' I'm not aware of that requirement. The IRS says this about business expense deductions: 'To be deductible, a business expense must be both ordinary and necessary. An ordinary expense is one that is common and accepted in your industry. A necessary expense is one that is helpful and appropriate for your trade or business. An expense does not have to be indispensable to be considered necessary.' (quoted directly from the IRS web site)



To help you find out the 'ordinary' cost of a meeting room for board meetings, call several local hotels in your area, and tell them you need to rent a small conference room for your company to conduct its board meeting. The answers you get will help you appreciate the numbers that the IRS regularly sees for those expenses, and will thus consider 'ordinary.' Remember, when the IRS is looking at your tax return, it has no idea how many directors you have, or where the meeting is.



So the next question is, 'Are board meetings necessary?' Absolutely. In fact, corporation laws require them.



I know an estate planning attorney who also suggests the next deduction you mention - hiring your children as models for your advertising. He does that in his own business. Regardless of what kind of business you have, you can find a way to incorporate photos of a couple of darling kids into your brochure or online advertisement. Then, if you want to know what the going rate is for photo models, call a couple of modeling agencies and ask them what the fee would be for a photo shoot. That would be the number the IRS is used to seeing, and thus would consider 'ordinary.' And if you have people in photos in your advertising materials, it is necessary that you pay them. (I know at least two attorneys who do this - the estate planning attorney I mentioned and a tax attorney I know.)



You mention the modeling fee that Drew suggests is large. I don't know, because I haven't participated in Drew's program, but the amount that I would expect him to mention matches the maximum amount that can be contributed to a Roth IRA in any one year. (Does that sound familiar?)



I think you're just concerned because these ideas are something new that you're unfamiliar with. But they can be valid ways for you to legally and legitimately reduce your income taxes, if they are appropriate in your circumstances. Just understand that what the IRS will consider 'ordinary' may be a much higher number than you consider 'reasonable.'



Obviously, I know nothing about your circumstances, so I have no idea whether these deductions are appropriate for your situation. But I can tell you that the suggestions you mention are legitimate. If you choose not to implement the suggestions they made, then I would think you wouldn't qualify for a refund.



I hope this information helps you understand.

Janet





Pathfinder also provides for one on one coaching so our clients can have their individual questions and concerns addressed. It does take some work to implement the strategies we teach. However, we have found again and again that our clients who put in the needed time and effort to get the complete picture always get the results that we promise.



In the interest of thoroughness, I would gladly offer to meet with Buyer Beware in person in our office, as we are located near your home. I am confident that after you give yourself an opportunity to experience the complete program, you will achieve the desired results.



Sincerely,



Drew Miles
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#8 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Response from Drew Miles

AUTHOR: Pathfinder Business Strategies - (U.S.A.)

Drew Miles here. Until recently, our company policy was not to respond to these communications. However, in the interest of providing the complete picture to the public, I decided to respond to this report personally even though it was submitted back in January 2008.



I assure you that all of the tax saving and asset protection strategies Pathfinder teaches are viable and up to date. Keep in mind that the Tax Code is continuously modified by several sources: Congress, Court decisions, and IRS revenue rulings. Written materials, including ours, become outdated; that's just the nature of tax information.



However, our programs are continually updated to keep pace with the Tax Code. For example, our programs provide for weekly webinars that are taught by either me or other professionals including Tax Attorneys and CPAs. The information contained in the client-only section of our website including the forms, contracts, code information, etc. is also updated regularly sometimes weekly.



For example, please review the post below which was provided by an Attorney from Las Vegas, Nevada on February 12, 2009:





Submitted: 2/12/2009 9:13:51 PM

Modified: 2/12/2009 9:46:18 PM



Janet

Las Vegas, Nevada

U.S.A.

Those are legitimate deductions

Hi Michael,



I have no connection with Drew Miles or his organization, but I am an attorney, and I have spent considerable time studying ways to reduce income taxes. I read your complaint and your update, and just wanted to share a couple of thoughts with you.



You don't have to have a large business in order to save a lot of money on your income taxes. Even if you have a small, closely-held corporation, your corporation is entitled to take the same corporate deductions as the big boys, like IBM or Microsoft, so long as your business qualifies for the deduction.



First, you mention that the IRS expects you to be 'reasonable.' I'm not aware of that requirement. The IRS says this about business expense deductions: 'To be deductible, a business expense must be both ordinary and necessary. An ordinary expense is one that is common and accepted in your industry. A necessary expense is one that is helpful and appropriate for your trade or business. An expense does not have to be indispensable to be considered necessary.' (quoted directly from the IRS web site)



To help you find out the 'ordinary' cost of a meeting room for board meetings, call several local hotels in your area, and tell them you need to rent a small conference room for your company to conduct its board meeting. The answers you get will help you appreciate the numbers that the IRS regularly sees for those expenses, and will thus consider 'ordinary.' Remember, when the IRS is looking at your tax return, it has no idea how many directors you have, or where the meeting is.



So the next question is, 'Are board meetings necessary?' Absolutely. In fact, corporation laws require them.



I know an estate planning attorney who also suggests the next deduction you mention - hiring your children as models for your advertising. He does that in his own business. Regardless of what kind of business you have, you can find a way to incorporate photos of a couple of darling kids into your brochure or online advertisement. Then, if you want to know what the going rate is for photo models, call a couple of modeling agencies and ask them what the fee would be for a photo shoot. That would be the number the IRS is used to seeing, and thus would consider 'ordinary.' And if you have people in photos in your advertising materials, it is necessary that you pay them. (I know at least two attorneys who do this - the estate planning attorney I mentioned and a tax attorney I know.)



You mention the modeling fee that Drew suggests is large. I don't know, because I haven't participated in Drew's program, but the amount that I would expect him to mention matches the maximum amount that can be contributed to a Roth IRA in any one year. (Does that sound familiar?)



I think you're just concerned because these ideas are something new that you're unfamiliar with. But they can be valid ways for you to legally and legitimately reduce your income taxes, if they are appropriate in your circumstances. Just understand that what the IRS will consider 'ordinary' may be a much higher number than you consider 'reasonable.'



Obviously, I know nothing about your circumstances, so I have no idea whether these deductions are appropriate for your situation. But I can tell you that the suggestions you mention are legitimate. If you choose not to implement the suggestions they made, then I would think you wouldn't qualify for a refund.



I hope this information helps you understand.

Janet





Pathfinder also provides for one on one coaching so our clients can have their individual questions and concerns addressed. It does take some work to implement the strategies we teach. However, we have found again and again that our clients who put in the needed time and effort to get the complete picture always get the results that we promise.



In the interest of thoroughness, I would gladly offer to meet with Buyer Beware in person in our office, as we are located near your home. I am confident that after you give yourself an opportunity to experience the complete program, you will achieve the desired results.



Sincerely,



Drew Miles
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#9 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Response from Drew Miles

AUTHOR: Pathfinder Business Strategies - (U.S.A.)

Drew Miles here. Until recently, our company policy was not to respond to these communications. However, in the interest of providing the complete picture to the public, I decided to respond to this report personally even though it was submitted back in January 2008.



I assure you that all of the tax saving and asset protection strategies Pathfinder teaches are viable and up to date. Keep in mind that the Tax Code is continuously modified by several sources: Congress, Court decisions, and IRS revenue rulings. Written materials, including ours, become outdated; that's just the nature of tax information.



However, our programs are continually updated to keep pace with the Tax Code. For example, our programs provide for weekly webinars that are taught by either me or other professionals including Tax Attorneys and CPAs. The information contained in the client-only section of our website including the forms, contracts, code information, etc. is also updated regularly sometimes weekly.



For example, please review the post below which was provided by an Attorney from Las Vegas, Nevada on February 12, 2009:





Submitted: 2/12/2009 9:13:51 PM

Modified: 2/12/2009 9:46:18 PM



Janet

Las Vegas, Nevada

U.S.A.

Those are legitimate deductions

Hi Michael,



I have no connection with Drew Miles or his organization, but I am an attorney, and I have spent considerable time studying ways to reduce income taxes. I read your complaint and your update, and just wanted to share a couple of thoughts with you.



You don't have to have a large business in order to save a lot of money on your income taxes. Even if you have a small, closely-held corporation, your corporation is entitled to take the same corporate deductions as the big boys, like IBM or Microsoft, so long as your business qualifies for the deduction.



First, you mention that the IRS expects you to be 'reasonable.' I'm not aware of that requirement. The IRS says this about business expense deductions: 'To be deductible, a business expense must be both ordinary and necessary. An ordinary expense is one that is common and accepted in your industry. A necessary expense is one that is helpful and appropriate for your trade or business. An expense does not have to be indispensable to be considered necessary.' (quoted directly from the IRS web site)



To help you find out the 'ordinary' cost of a meeting room for board meetings, call several local hotels in your area, and tell them you need to rent a small conference room for your company to conduct its board meeting. The answers you get will help you appreciate the numbers that the IRS regularly sees for those expenses, and will thus consider 'ordinary.' Remember, when the IRS is looking at your tax return, it has no idea how many directors you have, or where the meeting is.



So the next question is, 'Are board meetings necessary?' Absolutely. In fact, corporation laws require them.



I know an estate planning attorney who also suggests the next deduction you mention - hiring your children as models for your advertising. He does that in his own business. Regardless of what kind of business you have, you can find a way to incorporate photos of a couple of darling kids into your brochure or online advertisement. Then, if you want to know what the going rate is for photo models, call a couple of modeling agencies and ask them what the fee would be for a photo shoot. That would be the number the IRS is used to seeing, and thus would consider 'ordinary.' And if you have people in photos in your advertising materials, it is necessary that you pay them. (I know at least two attorneys who do this - the estate planning attorney I mentioned and a tax attorney I know.)



You mention the modeling fee that Drew suggests is large. I don't know, because I haven't participated in Drew's program, but the amount that I would expect him to mention matches the maximum amount that can be contributed to a Roth IRA in any one year. (Does that sound familiar?)



I think you're just concerned because these ideas are something new that you're unfamiliar with. But they can be valid ways for you to legally and legitimately reduce your income taxes, if they are appropriate in your circumstances. Just understand that what the IRS will consider 'ordinary' may be a much higher number than you consider 'reasonable.'



Obviously, I know nothing about your circumstances, so I have no idea whether these deductions are appropriate for your situation. But I can tell you that the suggestions you mention are legitimate. If you choose not to implement the suggestions they made, then I would think you wouldn't qualify for a refund.



I hope this information helps you understand.

Janet





Pathfinder also provides for one on one coaching so our clients can have their individual questions and concerns addressed. It does take some work to implement the strategies we teach. However, we have found again and again that our clients who put in the needed time and effort to get the complete picture always get the results that we promise.



In the interest of thoroughness, I would gladly offer to meet with Buyer Beware in person in our office, as we are located near your home. I am confident that after you give yourself an opportunity to experience the complete program, you will achieve the desired results.



Sincerely,



Drew Miles
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