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  • Submitted: Mon, December 17, 2012
  • Updated: Mon, May 27, 2013

  • Reported By: Anonymous — Anaheim California United States of America
Patient Care Transport LLC
225 E Broadway, Glendale CA, 92105 Internet United States of America

Patient Care Transport LLC Ross Barr, Raz Barr, Raz Bar-Shira Scam, non-payment, underpayment, lies and deceit! Internet

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Scammed by the Same Company

*UPDATE Employee: Sarkis Mambreian has Lost case Vs. Patient Care Transport LLC

*UPDATE Employee: Also Burned by PCT

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: they did not win

*UPDATE Employee: Patient Care Transport Won in Court Today

*Author of original report: Raz Barr Con Artist court dates

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Scammers

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: almost scammed

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ross Barr criminal court dates

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ross Barr now drive md scammer court dates

*Consumer Comment: Ross Barr patient care scam continued

*Consumer Comment: Ross Barr patient care transport court dates

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: what time & exact address

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ross Barr and Geraldine new scam

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ross Barr is bad news

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ross Barr criminal and court date

*UPDATE Employee: No payment yet!!!

*UPDATE Employee: PCT is now Ride MD BEWARE!

*UPDATE Employee: more info

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: GET OUT NOW

*UPDATE Employee: Fightpct@gmail.com

*UPDATE Employee: lawsuit and investigation

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ross Barr home address with wife information

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ross Barr home address with wife information

*UPDATE Employee: UNHAPPY

*UPDATE Employee: UNHAPPY

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ross and Patient Care

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ross and Patient Care

*UPDATE Employee: If you have a lawyer...

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Patient care ripooff

*UPDATE Employee: Ross the criminal

*UPDATE Employee: More information

*UPDATE Employee: Employee who called to discuss Ripoff Report

*UPDATE Employee: Fled under the cover of darkness

*UPDATE Employee: Lies - Vincent Peatros is a liar and a fraud

*UPDATE Employee: Listen

*UPDATE Employee: We need your help

*General Comment: In Northern California Now

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ross on the run

*Author of original report: Scam! They've been gone since Thursday, January 24, 2013

*UPDATE Employee: They gone

*UPDATE Employee: To the author

*UPDATE Employee: Ross Barr is a scam artist

*Consumer Comment: This whole big mess yall are in....

*Author of original report: Will not go away!

*UPDATE Employee: Now I am even more worried

*UPDATE Employee: Now hear this!!!

*Author of original report: PCT LLC Scam Update!

*UPDATE Employee: PCT Employees come together

*Author of original report: Drivers are realizing Raz Barr is a Con Artist!

*UPDATE Employee: getting worried

*UPDATE Employee: im getting worried

*UPDATE Employee: im getting worried

*UPDATE Employee: Also feel used...

*Author of original report: Ross Barr is a CON MAN THIEF!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: baseless comments - Investigation for any fake post

*UPDATE Employee: Very Concerned

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Response from Company

*UPDATE Employee: Another drivers experience

*Author of original report: The scammer and con artist Ross Barr takes no responsibility!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: False Allegations

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Warning to all, you will not be paid for a minimum of 3 months no matter how many transports you do. Beware, I was dumb enough to keep working after 2 months, calling in every week about getting checks sent to me and they just tell you next week, then they tell you next week again until finally after 3 months I get a few checks and they aren't even the full amount, only about 40% of what they should be. Do not trust these crooks and scam artists, they use you, take advantage of you, make money off of you then give you the short end of the stick. You do all the work and they make the money, its not worth it! You cant make money, you barely get paid back what you are spending on gas even when working full time. Take my word for it, dont get pulled in by the lies and false promises.

Please take my experience as your own so you wont have to go through what I did with these people. Their name is Patient Care Transport LLC run by a man named Ross Barr. They do lien transports, they say they put your name on the lien itself but after months they have never even shown me a single piece of paperwork even if I go to their office in Glendale. They promise that about a 3rd of your transports will be paid in 30-45 days but how can that be if they dont send out a bill for 60 days?? DONT DO IT!!! They cant say I didnt call to clear things up with them, I have called dozens of times and been in to the office 9 times and still nothing. SCAM ARTISTS!!

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 12/17/2012 03:09 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Patient-Care-Transport-LLC/internet/Patient-Care-Transport-LLC-Ross-Barr-Raz-Barr-Raz-Bar-Shira-Scam-non-payment-underpaym-983392. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Scammed by the Same Company

AUTHOR: CP1981 - ()

I just wrote a response for Ride Medical.  Patient Care Transport, Ride Medical, Ride MD; they are all owned by the same set of crooks.  Standard complaint as most of you guys, worked for 3 months, didn't receive a check.  On top of that, a "bonus check" for $60 that was supposed to be sent to me for taking a patient at the last minute took 3 weeks to get, and it bounced.

If anyone has had a sucessful lawyer going after these guys, or if anyone would like to team up for suing these guys, please let me know.  

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#2 UPDATE Employee

Sarkis Mambreian has Lost case Vs. Patient Care Transport LLC

AUTHOR: anonymous - ()

Sarkis Mambreian has Lost case Vs. Patient Care Transport LLC

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#3 UPDATE Employee

Also Burned by PCT

AUTHOR: BurnedbyPCT - ()

I read through the whole thread and I am glad that something is being done about this relentless scam artist.  I met Ross and talked with him a few times over the phone and aside from being a scammer, he's really a prick of a person too which makes it even sweeter to see him go down.  Luckily I didn't fall for the $495 scam but still lost a lot of time and gas money as well as broken promises.

Anyhow, I have done about 9 transports since September and saw the writing on the wall early so I decided to wait and see if I would see any action from their side before pumping another gallon of gas into my car.  Of course it has been over 7 months now since my first transport and still no money.  I am filing a claim with the labor commission but something tells me that won't do much good.

It will be hard for me to get down to San Diego for the hearing on the 25th since I just saw this post today, but if there is a class action lawsuit building against little Rossie boy, please contact me so I can join in.  I have record of all my transport tickets and all email correspondence from the beginning with them.  I can't post my email on here so I am assuming I can be contacted by my user handle. 

Good luck to you all, scammers like him never have a long window of opportunity. His day is coming.

Ps.. check out this short youtube video of him in court:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaSuC7qn1hA
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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

they did not win

AUTHOR: dogbtoy - ()

I dont think thats very accurate. I was told they had lost in multiple cases against other drivers.
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#5 UPDATE Employee

Patient Care Transport Won in Court Today

AUTHOR: Sam Nick - ()

Patient Care Transport Won in Court Today
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#6 Author of original report

Raz Barr Con Artist court dates

AUTHOR: Anonymous - ()

Hello all ripoff report friends, does anyone know which superior court room Raz's case is going to be heard in on Monday April 8, 2013? This would be a great help, I plan on gathering more information for a case against him. It will benefit us all. I plan on sharing any and all the info I get. Thank you.
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#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Scammers

AUTHOR: ex employee - ()

Wow! I started with this so called company PCT in December of 2012. I worked for them for three months and of course no pay check! Smh. I would love to take these scammers to court! If anyone has a lawyer they can refer me to that already knows about this type of case would be wonderful. You can reach me at my email youngt3695@gmail.com Thanks!
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#8 REBUTTAL Individual responds

almost scammed

AUTHOR: anonymous - ()

Hello, I found the job listing on Craigslist-Los Angeles.  It really is true-go with your instincts. It did sound too good to be true.  I actually called to get an interview, but was trying to find information out on the company first.  I live very close to the address they listed as their business address, and since I havent had the chance to drive by,  I looked on google maps, and couldn't find them!  I will drive by soon, just to clarify that.  I count my blessings that I found "Ripoff Report".  I am a very moral person, and I would have believed as you all have, that the payment would arrive in the time frame given.  I am so deeply sorry for all of you who have been scammed.  Here you were helping out people in need, and this is what happens!  I am also truly concerned that Workmans Compensation is paying these companies.  I wish you all the best with your lawsuits.
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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Ross Barr criminal court dates

AUTHOR: Truth teller - ()

Before I took off for the golf course yesterday I checked the cases against PCT in L.A. Superior Court. This is what I found:

Not including my case, there are 6 cases listed. Of those, 4 are still pending waiting for their day in court to arrive, 1 was dismissed after the parties reached an agreement outside of court, and 1 was an outright win by the driver. Here are the case summaries:

Armen Papoyan V. PCT: case pending with next court date 4-8-13.

Dean Coffman V. PCT: case pending with next court date 4-29-13.

David Patterson V. PCT: case pending with next court date 4-15-13.

Andres Valderrama V. PCT: case pending with next court date 4-8-13.

Sarkis Mambreian V. PCT: this one is more complicated. Sarkis filed his suit. PCT counter sued saying Sarkis stole employees and customers. PCT lost their counter suit. Judgement for Sarkis in the amount of $10,000 plus court costs. PCT has filed an appeal of the ruling, next court date 5-9-13.

Harold Wright V. PCT: case was dismissed after both parties reached a settlement agreement outside of court. The court retains jurisdiction pursuit to CCP 664.6 to enforce full terms of the settlement. The settlement details were not entered into the case summary
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#10 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Ross Barr now drive md scammer court dates

AUTHOR: Truth teller - ()

Before I took off for the golf course yesterday I checked the cases against PCT in L.A. Superior Court. This is what I found:

Not including my case, there are 6 cases listed. Of those, 4 are still pending waiting for their day in court to arrive, 1 was dismissed after the parties reached an agreement outside of court, and 1 was an outright win by the driver. Here are the case summaries:

Armen Papoyan V. PCT: case pending with next court date 4-8-13.

Dean Coffman V. PCT: case pending with next court date 4-29-13.

David Patterson V. PCT: case pending with next court date 4-15-13.

Andres Valderrama V. PCT: case pending with next court date 4-8-13.

Sarkis Mambreian V. PCT: this one is more complicated. Sarkis filed his suit. PCT counter sued saying Sarkis stole employees and customers. PCT lost their counter suit. Judgement for Sarkis in the amount of $10,000 plus court costs. PCT has filed an appeal of the ruling, next court date 5-9-13.

Harold Wright V. PCT: case was dismissed after both parties reached a settlement agreement outside of court. The court retains jurisdiction pursuit to CCP 664.6 to enforce full terms of the settlement. The settlement details were not entered into the case summary
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#11 Consumer Comment

Ross Barr patient care scam continued

AUTHOR: Truth teller - ()

This information was just text to me by another ripped off patient care driver I copied it

Vince Ali Cyrus wants to be included in the lawsuit to. He lost about $30,000 from Ross Barr transporting patients
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Ross Barr patient care transport court dates

AUTHOR: Truth teller - ()

Here are the current court activities against Ross Barr Mary has he court date on April 25th in San Diego

Before I took off for the golf course yesterday I checked the cases against PCT in L.A. Superior Court. This is what I found:

Not including my case, there are 6 cases listed. Of those, 4 are still pending waiting for their day in court to arrive, 1 was dismissed after the parties reached an agreement outside of court, and 1 was an outright win by the driver. Here are the case summaries:

Armen Papoyan V. PCT: case pending with next court date 4-8-13.

Dean Coffman V. PCT: case pending with next court date 4-29-13.

David Patterson V. PCT: case pending with next court date 4-15-13.

Andres Valderrama V. PCT: case pending with next court date 4-8-13.

Sarkis Mambreian V. PCT: this one is more complicated. Sarkis filed his suit. PCT counter sued saying Sarkis stole employees and customers. PCT lost their counter suit. Judgement for Sarkis in the amount of $10,000 plus court costs. PCT has filed an appeal of the ruling, next court date 5-9-13.

Harold Wright V. PCT: case was dismissed after both parties reached a settlement agreement outside of court. The court retains jurisdiction pursuit to CCP 664.6 to enforce full terms of the settlement. The settlement details were not entered into the case summary.

I hope that helps everyone a little bit.
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#13 UPDATE EX-employee responds

what time & exact address

AUTHOR: ? - ()

I am also a ex worker for these crooks, I've worked with them during Oct 22 - 25, 2012 and I would LOVE to be part of this law suit please send me the address & time, my name is Edmond Karapetian my e-mail is karapetianed@yahoo.com

can't wait to see these clowns go down.
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#14 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Ross Barr and Geraldine new scam

AUTHOR: Truth teller - ()

9:55pm Mar 20 I just got this email back from Geraldine yesterday, in response to multiple emails I have sent her regarding payments and copies of the liens.

"Hi Kelly, We are still waiting for the payments from the Insurance Companies. As soon as we got the checks, we will call you! Just to let you know that we did not file a Lien. Filling a Lien starting this January 2013 is expensive? We need to pay a $150 for each ticket and we have a tons of Tickets. What we are doing is we call all the Insurance Companies to collect at least 80% of the total amount of each tickets. Filling a lien also it takes a while.

Thank you, Geraldine B."

So, no liens, no payments. Great business model, PCT
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#15 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Ross Barr is bad news

AUTHOR: wade - ()

I am glad to hear that Ross is getting some heat from the people he committed fraud against. I'm willing to bet he will not show up in court and will just disappear once the whole thing falls apart. Let it be known that those of us in Chicago that were duped by this con man are also pressing charges against him for his crimes. I feel for all of you that are owed thousands of dollars and will most likely never see a return on your work. Keep fighting and good luck to you all! 
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Ross Barr criminal and court date

AUTHOR: Truth teller - ()

Attention all patient care drivers there is a court date set for April 25th in San Diego ca. Mary a driver from San Diego had Ross Barr served by a process server the notice to appear in court. We need as many drivers to show up for this court date with all your documentation to show to the judge pro siding this case. Once he sees her proof and then they see the proof that we have it becomes a criminal case and charges will be filed against Ross that day by the judge. Contact me here or call me to get the actual time for the court date. Several people have already been with the district attorneys office, this is getting bigger by the minute. Also Ross has changed the name of his company but doing the same thing to new drivers.

The truth teller
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#17 UPDATE Employee

No payment yet!!!

AUTHOR: Fuck Ross Barr - ()

This f***ing Ross Barr is out again.  He is recruiting again in some Hotel in New Jersey in April.
Beware!!!
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Here is the craigslist he posted:
http://newyork.craigslist.org/jsy/trp/3669813549.html
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Independent Owner Operators - Health Care - $4000+/Week (NY and NJ)Owner Operators - We are hiring this week
Very busy growingNY Transport Company is looking to hire independent auto Operators/Owners
Candidate must posses a great driving record and clean background
Full time drivers make over $4000 Week - Short and long rides - No Lifting - No carrying
Part time or Full time positions
The work is all around NY and NJ
You must have have economy car and insurance. Very easy work, No experience needed, Should know all NY Area
Send resume and car information and why do you think you will be a fit for the position
The position is a 1099 independent contractor
We are looking to solidify our current driving team to serve NY and NJ market.
You will proudly serve our clients and represent our company.
Great Income Potential!! Very lucrative driving position

Location: NY and NJCompensation: High Commissions - $4000 Week Plus/Telecommuting is ok.This is a part-time job.This is a contract job.Principals only. Recruiters, please don't contact this job poster.Please, no phone calls about this job!Please do not contact job poster about other services, products or commercial interests.Posting ID: 3669813549 Posted: 2013-03-09, 12:50PM EST Edited: 2013-03-09, 12:50PM EST
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If you response to he craigslist, you will receive the following:
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Thank you for applying for the Driving Position.

We will be hiring NJ local area Drivers for Patient Care Transports on location in NJ in Around April 1.
We have lots of work in NJ and Looking to hire our core team of drivers(Part Time and Full time) 
We need drivers to start working after agreements and documents signed(Remote Hiring until we hire locally)

We like you to start working for us after we verify your Auto Insurance,and car information with photo.We would also conduct background check and DMV check to make sure no DUI's or felonies.
Please print agreements attached, sign and email back with one photo of your car attached a copy of your Driver License and insurance card and your 1 page resume withcorrect email and cell numbers updated.
Please send all docs above to : drivers@ridemd.com

Local Interview:(Date and Time will be sent to you)Interview and car inspection takes about 20-30Min. 
You need to have no DUI's and a good DMV record and a clean background.Please also bring the car you would be driving for the position.

Your car should Be 2002 and Up Year model and in good condition and Clean. Your car can not be a very big truck or a very small car. A 2002 model or newer.

We are also begin to offer flat fee transports(based on full time work - heavy volume per day)Payment for fat rate transports is every 2 weeks. You get 100% flat rate for every Transport you do with a small monthly fee to receive fat rate calls - this is optional transportsand we can discuss this on interview. Please sign Flat Rate Transports if you like to be assigned those too.

This position is to become a certified workers comp. driver and an Optional Flat Rate medical Transport Driver for our company in NJ.

Full Time Drivers can make an average of $300-$350 per ride or $800 before your commission. All rides will be for Workers Compensation injured workers. Understand that they will be Non Emergency.

You will get paid for all miles and wait time ($25 for every 15 minutes) + Pickup charge +Drop charge +Fuel Charge from your second month of commitment to our company; we will try to help you with fuel charges by paying you $10 Per Ride.

These are great lucrative payouts for transports. You can make close to $1000 per day. All drivers must know that it takes AT LEAST 30-45 days until we can start collecting the payout and you can wait a few months until you get paid. This is because we get the payments from the insurance companies after we bill them. Every payout from insurance company is sent to driver within 14 days after we have received it. All transports are guaranteed to be paid by Company.

We pay through direct deposits, wire transfer, or regular check. We will provide you with an online interface so that you can check the status of all rides and total commissions.

You would also be able to report your availability status online or by phone. There is also the option of uploading your ticket online to the interface after the ride is completed.

We will also start offering flat rate transportation (from $1 per mile to $2.5 Per Mile pending on service location. $1 for Pharmacies where you make 100% commission of these transports The company takes $295 per month for these calls when you make at least $2000 a month from these rides) Flat rate or Pharmacies make up only about 3% of all rides at the moment in your area(will increase quickly). So, most of the transports are the high paying Workers Compensation rides.

We Welcome to apply remotely and arrive for our local interview in NJ Around April 1, 2013.
RideMD Hiring TeamToll Free (866) 209-1737 www.RideMD.com


Don't take the job.  It is a f***ing SCAM.  DO NOT DO IT.  You will be a dumb a**.


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#18 UPDATE Employee

PCT is now Ride MD BEWARE!

AUTHOR: Misty Justice - (United States of America)

The same owners are now operating under a new name. Ride MD! Read all of the posts regarding Patient Care Transport. Don't fall for the scam! If they ask for money up front it's a SCAM! They operate off your money!
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#19 UPDATE Employee

more info

AUTHOR: anon - (United States of America)

I have meet a half dozen drivers for PCT and none have been paid. I have done 70 transports-ish since I was hired in Oct 2012. My transports are going on 5 months now and I have received only 2 checks. One was fire the full amount, one was for 80 percent of the amount. I get the runaround too. Its kind if funny how I can work so hard for them without getting paid and they still call me weekly to do more transports. I have found no proof that this is a scam, but the other post-ers aren't joking about not being paid. They promised 60-75 percent inside of 60 days when they hired me, and that changes with every post. They aren't paying their drivers and I found out from someone in dispatch that they are receiving checks. I'm worried they are cheating everyone until its time to split.
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#20 UPDATE EX-employee responds

GET OUT NOW

AUTHOR: 300XXXMAN - (United States of America)

You will not be paid.  I have found and communicated with 20+ drivers and none have received a dime yet.  The stories and claims are true.   300xxxman@gmail.com
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#21 UPDATE Employee

Fightpct@gmail.com

AUTHOR: Misty Justice - (United States of America)

I have been working for this company since Nov 2012 and have not received a dime. Every time I ask about payment I receive the runaround! I have a copy of all paperwork and further information on Ross Barr. All drivers need to get together and join forces. You can reach me at fightpct@gmail.com.
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#22 UPDATE Employee

lawsuit and investigation

AUTHOR: dng - (United States of America)

i am an ex-employee of this company and i would like to be part of any lawsuit that is against this company. i am willing to put out any effort to take this company down. please e-mail me if there is any way i can help (((ROR redacted))). all i would like back is my initial $475 and the 40% of the liens that they owe me. i still have my copies of transportation. ty for all the information and supporters out there.

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Ross Barr home address with wife information

AUTHOR: Truth teller - (United States of America)

Here is Ross barr's information. For all drivers who have been screwed by him. This is his home address in calbassas ca

Hello to all,

Here is what I found out by doing some simple google searches.

Raz Barr (aka Resnik Barr, Ross Barr, Raz Bar Bashira, Raz Barr Shira, and Shira Raz Bar) He is 46 years old. He is related to Reina L. Bar-shira who is 47 and I will bet she is the wife.

Old Address is : XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXxx
Las Vegas, Nevada 89144

Address in Los Angeles is : XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXx

Calabasas, California 91302 (this is a $1 million dollar plus residence)

Lior Klain (aka Leo Klain) Not positive but I think he is 33.

Old Address is: XXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Flushing, New York 11367

Address in Los Angeles is: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX

Los Angeles, California 90066 (google earth shows this as a small house in between 2 large apartment buildings in Marina Del Rey area).

You can find who Lior worked for in Israel by going to LinkedIn (I don't think that is important) Raz has also worked for/owns MegaBite Dental, Kerillium Inc., and Buddy Browser. Buddy Browser has 3 complaints on RipoffReport so it is pretty obvious that this is not Raz's first rodeo of doing this shit to people. This would be good to take to the authorities because it shows a pattern. Raz worked with a "Tomer Dotan" in connection with Kerillium Inc. This guy used to work for/own ATD Lock Security Inc. in Canoga Park which is right next to Woodland Hills. This guy is 40.

There are 4 entities to PCT. They are Raz, Lior, Patient Care Transport, and Propnation Inc. Raz also used to work for JamesAllen.com on the East Coast in the diamond business. It could possibly be a different Raz, but I doubt it. Israelis and Jews are heavily involved in the diamond business so that would make sense to me. I am more certain of the address of Raz than I am of Lior. I personally WOULD NOT trust anyone in the PCT office (including all the women working for these two jokers) and I also WOULD NOT trust any of the doctors as they could be in on this as well. While I never lost any money or did any transports, nothing would give me more pleasure than to see these two bastards go to jail. When I interviewed with Leo both times he was extremely arrogant, rude, and cocky and I would love to see him go down!!!!!

TTYL,

George

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Ross Barr home address with wife information

AUTHOR: Truth teller - (United States of America)

Here is Ross barr's information. For all drivers who have been screwed by him. This is his home address in calbassas ca

Hello to all,

Here is what I found out by doing some simple google searches.

Raz Barr (aka Resnik Barr, Ross Barr, Raz Bar Bashira, Raz Barr Shira, and Shira Raz Bar) He is 46 years old. He is related to Reina L. Bar-shira who is 47 and I will bet she is the wife.

Old Address is : 650 S Town Center Drive

Las Vegas, Nevada 89144

Address in Los Angeles is : 3750 Via Halcon

Calabasas, California 91302 (this is a $1 million dollar plus residence)

Lior Klain (aka Leo Klain) Not positive but I think he is 33.

Old Address is: 14127 70th Avenue

Flushing, New York 11367

Address in Los Angeles is: 12810 Matteson Avenue

Los Angeles, California 90066 (google earth shows this as a small house in between 2 large

apartment buildings in Marina Del Rey area).

You can find who Lior worked for in Israel by going to LinkedIn (I don't think that is important)

Raz has also worked for/owns MegaBite Dental, Kerillium Inc., and Buddy Browser. Buddy Browser has 3 complaints on RipoffReport so it is pretty obvious that this is not Raz's first rodeo of doing this shit to people. This would be good to take to the authorities because it shows a pattern. Raz worked with a "Tomer Dotan" in connection with Kerillium Inc. This guy used to work for/own ATD Lock Security Inc. in Canoga Park which is right next to Woodland Hills. This guy is 40.

There are 4 entities to PCT. They are Raz, Lior, Patient Care Transport, and Propnation Inc. Raz also used to work for JamesAllen.com on the East Coast in the diamond business. It could possibly be a different Raz, but I doubt it. Israelis and Jews are heavily involved in the diamond business so that would make sense to me. I am more certain of the address of Raz than I am of Lior. I personally WOULD NOT trust anyone in the PCT office (including all the women working for these two jokers) and I also WOULD NOT trust any of the doctors as they could be in on this as well. While I never lost any money or did any transports, nothing would give me more pleasure than to see these two b***ards go to jail. When I interviewed with Leo both times he was extremely arrogant, rude, and cocky and I would love to see him go down!!!!!

TTYL,

George

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#25 UPDATE Employee

UNHAPPY

AUTHOR: anonymous - (USA)

Im from SD ive been on a few transports they owe me about 3000 and i cant even get a hold of them anymore before they would pick up there phones Carin has disconnected her number Ross never picks up im pretty pissed off about the whole thing. I wanna take these people to court it is bullshit what they are pulling I have saved all my tickets and have all of the contracts so to the people who already started a lawsuit i would like to speak with you and help get this going because these people need to pay for what they are doing. Does anyone have any new contact info on these people is anyone else still talking to any of them. 
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#26 UPDATE Employee

UNHAPPY

AUTHOR: anonymous - (USA)

Im from SD ive been on a few transports they owe me about 3000 and i cant even get a hold of them anymore before they would pick up there phones Carin has disconnected her number Ross never picks up im pretty pissed off about the whole thing. I wanna take these people to court it is bullshit what they are pulling I have saved all my tickets and have all of the contracts so to the people who already started a lawsuit i would like to speak with you and help get this going because these people need to pay for what they are doing. Does anyone have any new contact info on these people is anyone else still talking to any of them. 
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Ross and Patient Care

AUTHOR: Truth teller - (United States of America)

It's official as of yesterday, Ross Barr and Patient care Transports are under investigation. We will be posting updates as we get informed. Can't specify what agency it is, but it's a BIG one. Please inform all drivers that you know that the process has certainly begun. We will set up a conference call where everyone can call in and we can discuss these unfortunate events that have transpired. Please make photo copies of all emails that were sent to you regarding transports, make copies of all your transport tickets, make copies of all phone bills showcasing your efforts to communicate with them. All this information will be vital in getting everyone their money that is owed to you. Also print out all the ads that patient care puts on Craigslist from California to Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, etc; all this information has been requested by the agency. Stay tuned

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Ross and Patient Care

AUTHOR: Truth teller - (United States of America)

It's official as of yesterday, Ross Barr and Patient care Transports are under investigation. We will be posting updates as we get informed. Can't specify what agency it is, but it's a BIG one. Please inform all drivers that you know that the process has certainly begun. We will set up a conference call where everyone can call in and we can discuss these unfortunate events that have transpired.

Please make photo copies of all emails that were sent to you regarding transports, make copies of all your transport tickets, make copies of all phone bills showcasing your efforts to communicate with them. All this information will be vital in getting everyone their money that is owed to you. Also print out all the ads that patient care puts on Craigslist from California to Chicago, New York, Philadelphia, etc; all this information has been requested by the agency. Stay tuned

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#29 UPDATE Employee

If you have a lawyer...

AUTHOR: anon - (United States of America)

If any of you are actually getting a lawyer, post it here.  You will need the testimony of as many drivers as possible to strengthen your case.  In my opinion, the only part of the contract they have broken is the speed at which we are to be paid.  All other aspects have been followed including frequency of work.  It's unfortunate we are going through this but I will tell your lawyers everything I know in aid of your cause.  I have done over 50 transports.  I have been paid on only two while seemingly getting the runaround on the rest.  I get calls from the receptionists weekly to do more transports.  I know they have a new office location that is legitimate...it's not possible to get into without clearance to get past security now, but it's there.  They don't seem to be on the run, but they do seem to be hiding.  It's hard to say if it's because they are a scam or if they are trying to get away from the constant nagging of drivers wanting their money.  Either  way, they are not staying true to their word.  They have made promises they aren't keeping and they can't give us straight answers as to why.  As I have said in the past, it still might not be a scam, but there's no way to be sure without getting paid.
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#30 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Patient care ripooff

AUTHOR: Truth teller - (United States of America)

Located at 6303 owensmouth 10th floor woodland hills california
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#31 UPDATE Employee

Ross the criminal

AUTHOR: Truth teller - (United States of America)

They are in hiding, if they weren't hiding why would they be so reluctant to give there address??? We all know its a scam and we are talking to the proper authorities to bring formal charges against this company and Ross. I spoke with Addison and a few other drivers and we are just waiting to have confirmation from one of the law agencies to take action. Documents have been gathered, investigations are on the way. Just remember that who ever works for that company is going to be implicated by the law as well

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#32 UPDATE Employee

More information

AUTHOR: anon - (United States of America)

Their new address is   6303 Owensamouth Ave. Woodland Hills, CA

101 freeway exit Topanga Canyon rd, just north of the freeway.  Do with this info as you will.  I told them I had 5 tickets completed and wanted to bring them in personally.  Nikki put me on hold for 5 minutes and wouldn't give me the info.  Another lady gave me the info reluctantly and even said I needed to make an appointment, then wanted to know the exact day I'd be in to drop off the tickets...it seemed like they aren't really at the address but someone could meet me there.  I didn't give her a specific time, and she said someone would be there to receive the tickets from me.  Don't know if the addy is good but use it guts.  You may get somewhere.  I live pretty far away from there and won't be able to do anything with this but maybe someone can
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Employee who called to discuss Ripoff Report

AUTHOR: Mike - (United States of America)

Hello,

My name is Michael Roundy and I am an employee of Patient Care Transport. I am concerned about the allegations on Ripoff Report so I called the company to discuss them. I was hung up on twice by Karin. I called back twice was put on hold several times,  finally Geraldine was put on the line and told me that they haven't received the checks for November and December and that she will send them to me as soon as they receive them. I then asked about Ripoff Report and was told that "She doesn't care about  Ripoff Report." I told her I was concerned about it and again she told me "She doesn't care about Ripoff Report." 

The company's rebuttal on this very report asks the drivers to call in and discuss any issues. I tried to and was hung up on, put on hold and then transferred to Geraldine who sends out the checks and told to they don't care about the report. Why didn't Karin, the manager discuss the issue with me? Why was I transferred to an employee who "is in charge of pay?" 

Now I read another rebuttal from the company dated Feb. 5, 2013, which is unprofessional in the extreme.

I am hoping that Karin will contact me and we can discuss the issues in a professional manner. I have done everything the company has asked of me and more, so far they have evaded my questions and refused to discuss the issues with me. 
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#34 UPDATE Employee

Fled under the cover of darkness

AUTHOR: Ed - (United States of America)

To Ross or Lior or whoever posted that last entry,

I no longer believe you are running an honest operation.  As I stated in my prior posts, my first transport was October 15, 2012 and I have not seen a pay check yet.  You have posted copies of checks made out to Patient Care Transport, we have no doubt YOU are getting paid.  It's the drivers who are not being paid.

Over the last two months I made three written requests for copies of the billing records for my first five transports. The written demands were made on December 6, December 9 and January 14th. Copies of the billings or liens are something that you promise in the employment contract that we both signed.  No one at Patient Care Transport has responded to my requests.

Last week I went to the office in Glendale for the first time since I hired on.  You and your office staff have vacated the office.  I asked the building receptionist if you left a forwarding address, she said no. Is the business practice of an honest ethical company?

Someone posted earlier that the office moved to Woodland Hills.  That is just a mailbox drop, not an office, and I think they had that before the office in Glendale.

I think our only recourse is to file suit for breach of contract, misrepresentation, fraud and theft of labor.
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#35 UPDATE Employee

Lies - Vincent Peatros is a liar and a fraud

AUTHOR: Truthwillprevail - (United States of America)

Vincent Peatros from Downy CA is a unethical individual, liar and a cheater

Stay away from his lies an deceit

He did only 4 transports for us and was terminated since he did not
drive patients after accepting transports!! Mr. Lazy ass could not wake
up his lazy a** in the morning to drive patients, and then call to
cancel last minute with millions of excuses! We have all proof

we almost lost a client due to his lazy attitude, excuses for not picking up a patient,  and not taking the job seriously.

A real liar. will be sued for his defamation

We paying all drivers and Daily!

PCT is an Ethical Company - Honest Drivers have nothing to worry and all transports are paid timely as received!
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#36 UPDATE Employee

Listen

AUTHOR: anon - (United States of America)

To the idiot who claimed the Pico Rivera poster was a plant...that's right I said idiot.  If you are going to post, post the truth.  If you do not have facts, keep your mouth shut.  I am the Pico Rivera poster.  I am not a plant.  I work for PCT and am in the same boat as all off you.  I have bent but I have not yet broken.  I have faith that the growing pains PCT is going through are hardcore for us but I am sticking it out.  Shame on me if I am wrong but I still think it will get where we want it to be.  All of you took this job knowing it was "Too good to be true" as did I, but if you are all seeking a lawyer, tell truths.  It will matter to your case.  Do not post things you have no proof of.  I have done over 50 transports for PCT and continue to transport patients on the hopes we will start getting paid on a regular basis.  I have been paid.  I received two checks from PCT for nearly $900.00 but as I posted before, one of those was short paid.  I am frustrated that we are not receiving what we were promised, but it doesn't necessarily make it a scam.  I believed we were misinformed and that sucks.  again, where will you find a job that offers so much for so little.  If you chose to fight, fight honestly.  You will never get anywhere with a lawyer by lying or exaggerating.  Also, they didn't disappear, they relocated. It's in the emails you receive when you do a transport.  The main office is now in Woodland Hills.  They have new phone numbers though the old number is still in use.  They have hired more office employees to handle an increased workload and I don't believe the ladies are "in on it".  If I am wrong, I will join the fight, however, tread carefully.  A company on the run wouldn't be continuing its business.  They would be gone, unreachable.  I agree we have been wronged based on promises made, but it doesn't mean "scam".  Rally the troops peacefully and let the lawyers do the fighting, and in the meantime, stop posting lies...they can and will be used against you.

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#37 UPDATE Employee

We need your help

AUTHOR: Ed - (United States of America)

Would those of you that found these posts and were saved from being ripped off do a favor for those of us that are victims? 

If you know where Patient Care Transport is holding a hiring or interview event, please post the details here. 
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#38 General Comment

In Northern California Now

AUTHOR: Anon - (United States of America)

I responded to a Craigslist ad here in the bay area for drivers. They will be conducting interviews Wednesday February 6th at the Courtyard by Marriott San Jose South/Morgan Hill, 18610 Madrone Parkway, Morgan Hill, CA 95037 from 8am to 6pm.

I hate that so many people have been deceived by this company and thank you for your reports as they helped me see the type of company I would have been getting involved with. Good luck.
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#39 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Ross on the run

AUTHOR: Truth teller - (United States of America)

Lets go after him I can be contacted at 562-275-1814 my name is vince
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#40 Author of original report

Scam! They've been gone since Thursday, January 24, 2013

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

These scam artists have made a run for it! After not answering the phone for the last week I decided to visit them last week and they were gone, no forwarding address. The Doctors offices are also not using their services any longer. Everyone go make your police reports on Raz Barr and Lior Klain. Please be aware they have many other scam business', dont be tricked by them. My attorney has a Private Investigator looking for them to serve them with the lawsuit. Everyone was right about them from the beginning. They are con artists and this is what they do! Also the poster from Pico Rivera was a plant from PCT LLC and never received any checks for any amount. The scams go on and on with these people. Anyone with any questions contact me here.
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#41 UPDATE Employee

They gone

AUTHOR: Lots of mile - (United States of America)

Ok everybody I went to office today to drop of paper work . But why I saw they gone .all furnitures and everthing. If mister owner you think you real why would you let ur driver know you new adress! Your front seat doesn't know the adress!! Excuses me but that a big B.S . Here's my phone number who ever like to get hold of me 949-943-99-48 .lets just finished this pain in a as company .. I'm so fucking pist ... My name is banu . Call me who like yo started s.law....I'm not getting my money but this players will go to jail ...
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To the author

AUTHOR: Truth teller - (United States of America)

What we are doing is great. I suggest that you get the drivers that you know and all the drivers that have posted here get together at a agreed upon location and stsrt putting a lawsuit together. I live in pick Rivera as well. I believe we should contact the IRS, BBB, and file a police reprt on Ross Barr and Patient Care Transports. We will all communicate initially on this site until we meet in person and then we go after Ross and his crooked a**. Sounds like he is taking his scamming ways on the road. Give me your thoughts

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#43 UPDATE Employee

Ross Barr is a scam artist

AUTHOR: Truth teller - (United States of America)

I also worked for patient care for two months. It has been over 70 days and I still have not received a penny for my transports. My friend Wes who also did over 25 transports is owed over $10,000 by patient care transports. This company does not pay, they owe me close to $4,000. We must file a lawsuit against Ross Barr and his company. They tell you you will get paid in 30-45 days, they never pay and on top of it they charge you $375 up front for some bogus fees but in the ad that I have copied it says they don't charge a fee. I suggest everyone contact the Better Business Bearau and let them know how patient care transports and Ross Barr are ripping off their employees. Ross will lie to you go your face and have the girls in the office lie just as much for him. Geraldine is the lady who is supposed to be in charge of billing but she is in on it to. I have spoken to her several times about getting paid and she says oh the money is on the way, I speak to Ross and he lies out of his teeth. I will start contacting patient care clients to let them know the company they are utilizing is a scam artist. I will make them lose their contracts. So all the drivers that have been screwed, start contacting patient care transports doctors and sleep studies where you dropped your clients off at, I'm sure they would like to hear how Ross is ripping people off. I already have gotten an attorney to sue them

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#44 Consumer Comment

This whole big mess yall are in....

AUTHOR: US MARINE CORPS - (United States of America)

Here's a little info for all of you...Ross will be at the Four Seasons Hotel at 1 Logan Square in Philadelphia, PA. 19103 on 1-18-2013 from 10-5 pm, 1-19-2013 from 8-4 pm and 1-20-12 from 9-4 pm I answered his call on craigslist where this company is prowling honest US citizens.  It's very discouraging to hear all of your negative stories.  Quite frankly, it's disturbing to let any individual simply walk you through a process, pay them $475 to work for them and not receive anything in return except to hear we'll pay you possibly next week??? 

I'm very sorry all of you involved are struggling with this company.  I almost got sucked in too...and with this one site actually just saved me from an expensive ride I was about to take.  Ross is at this location folks to speak face to face...If someone owed me money I would want to legally take action or simply take things into my own hands.  Your choice everyone...here he is...go get your money...stop getting ripped off, and from a US citizen to another...look before you leap!!  Good luck everyone with this con artist, and thank you for saving me from joining such an unorganized ripoff circus circle jerk like this tool Ross is doing to America.  I just sent an email to the Dept of Labor, the IRS and the BBB to investigate these allegations regarding this company.  Thank you all.
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#45 Author of original report

Will not go away!

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

Also to the Pico Rivera poster, I am glad that you are happy about the paltry peanuts that PCT threw you but I will not be so easily appeased.

To Ed, you are exactly right, we have a contract in place to "protect" both sides of the arrangement. PCT is guilty of outright misrepresentation and was never in the position to make such claims of pay amount, frequency or timeline.

Intentional misrepresentation in any legal document is also known as fraud.

Where in any of our contracts is it stated that we would NOT receive full compensation for all of our transports?

We held up our end of the contract. What they our doing to us is not right, they have contractual obligations to us just as we do to them. We cannot simply change the agreement as we see fit. We could not just decide to take the patients to there appointments but not return them home, we would be quickly released from our contracts within a day.

Also again to give credit to Ed, we are NOT employees we are contractors who decide which jobs to take on with clear terms set in place on payment.

To Pico Rivera, if you worked at Burger King for $8 an hour would you be happy when you got your paycheck if it were only for $3 an hour? Happy as long as you got something?

These our trying times in our economy but we cannot accept this fraud or it will continue. PCT will have no want or reason to stay within the parameters of our agreements if we dont speak up.

Remember we do 90% of the work, the drivers are the core of any transportation business. We are the only people in the company paying out money for any and everything. 

Raz is receiving 60% of every transport, he doesn't care who made the transport or why or how much gas was used. He gets paid on both ends, The doctors we transport our patients too also pay him for the service. If we have an $800 transport for example (like in all his craigslist ads), you are expecting to receive $320 while PCT receives $480, the price is negotiated down to $400 and you only receive $160, Raz doesnt care because he still receives $240 from the insurance without having to do any of the work and he was still paid the fee from the doctor as well.

Just because you received a couple of checks for amounts "considerably" less then what you were promised does not mean this company is not a scam, you still paid out more in fuel, vehicle maintenance, car payments, insurance etc., then they have  paid you, all the while PCT has made a PROFIT on ALL of OUR work.

They are taking advantage of current and new drivers everyday. We have to do something about it. 
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#46 UPDATE Employee

Now I am even more worried

AUTHOR: Ed - (United States of America)

Poster from Pico Rivera, 

This is still not right.  Remember, we are not employees of the company working at their whim.  We are independent contractors who can pick and choose which jobs we perform for them.

When you (and I) get a transport ticket it clearly states what the pick up and drop off charges are, what the mileage charge is, and what the wait time charge is calculated at.  We look at those numbers and decide to accept or reject the job.  The agreement we have with the company says we will be paid 40% of those charges.  I would argue that if PCT pays anything less they are in breach of contract. 

If they end up negotiating a lower fee for service with the insurance company they still have a contractual obligation to honor their agreement with us.
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#47 UPDATE Employee

Now hear this!!!

AUTHOR: anon - (United States of America)

     Look, I have been an employee of PCT for over 3 months now.  I have completed more than 50 transports and up to today have never been paid.  Today, however I received 2 checks, each for individual jobs completed in October.  Neither were jobs I completed inside of my first 2 weeks, and one was considerably less than I expected per our agreement.  Now, I believe the company is legit but they have several problems.  This location is new and learning on the go.  This is bad for us drivers because they promise us the world but cannot deliver!  They are at the whim of the insurance companies they are trying to collect from.  They may have experience from other companies to give us the #'s like they do...for example: 60-75% of checks are paid between days 30-45.  We make 40% of the total.  These are raw numbers...not guarantees.  We expect exactly what we are told at interview but in reality, it's not something that should be promised.  Ross and Leo need to hire drivers so it seems they sugar-coated the payment plan when they should have erred on the side of caution.  1) The amount paid by the insurance company on my tickets wasn't the full amount, it was a negotiated down amount.  Then, they paid and I got my 40%. So, I have received 4% of my completed jobs, nearly 100 days after the date of service due to unforeseen circumstances. 

 It doesn't mean PCT is a scam, but it doesn't help their cause because of what they "promise" or explain at interview.  They are 50+ tickets and $1,000's behind each driver that gave their all in the first few months.  It looks really bad, but patience may be our only asset.  It may take awhile, but I believe in the "excuses" I have been given as to late payments.  The ladies in the office seem very frustrated at having to answer these questions because they are getting it from 75 drivers at the same time.  They can only relay to us what they are told and must be given some leeway because of the frequency of driver complaints.  If you trust you will get paid, then work, if you do not, then don't.  I am not saying "Don't seek legal council" but I am saying "I got paid" and all of the tickets I haven't been paid for PCT has given a seemingly legit reason as to why.  I felt like all of you, but after receiving my first real payment, I am breathing a deep deep sigh of relief.

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PCT LLC Scam Update!

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

Hello all drivers, It has now been 156 days since my first transport and Ive done close to 100 transports and still nothing new has happened. I have recently found out that the scammer Raz Barr now wants almost $500 to sign up to be a driver for his sham company. PLEASE all, we have to get together to stop this criminal. I have contacted an attorney who has reviewed all the details of the case and he has decided to take it on. The first step is going to the police station and filing a report which I will do today. Secondly since it involves an LLC that doesnt pay its workers or contractors he says he will prepare the complaint for the FBI office. We will see what happens from there. Hopefully if we get enough drivers it will become a class action suit. He says for it to make it to class action we need at least 30 drivers but would like at least 50. This shouldn't be a problem since Raz has conned 100's if not 1000's of people already in various states. This has really gone to far, he needs to be in jail and hopefully he will be soon before he can take advantage of too many more people. 

Raz Barr schemes and cons are not limited to Patient Care Transport, look for complaints about one of his other cons called buddy browser. You can find out about it on here and other sites of people he has conned. It seems like he starts a business, scams people out of their money for as long as he can then disappears then starts another scam somewhere else.

My attorney says the contract Raz created was beyond laughable and has no legal backing. He thought it was a joke that was written by 8 year old just learning English. We can come together and stop this maniac from harming more people. As time goes by we will be subpoenaing PCT for their records and will hopefully contact all of you with the details of the case in the hope you will join the suit.

Unfortunately rip off reports site doesn't allow me to post any contact information on these rebuttals so we will have to wait until we have another channel of communication. Any ideas anyone?

If anyone has any questions or comments please feel free to contact me here, I will be replying to any posts. 

Thank you.

  
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#49 UPDATE Employee

PCT Employees come together

AUTHOR: Power Together Against PCT - (United States of America)

I am another driver that wants to set the record straight about my time at Patient Care Transport. It is a similar story to the rest so I won't rehash all the same information. I have worked for PCT for three months and done just over 20 transports, I was told the same story of 3 out of 8 transports being paid out around 45 days, and I have not been paid a dime.

The reason I posted here is that we have to start coming together and organizing. We are stronger together than alone on this. Now, obviously I don't want to post my name on here because Ross Barr is such a troll and I would NEVER see any of the money that I am due. So I started an anonymous email up so we can get in contact. I'm not sure how this will
work, but when we get a lawyer involved the more people involved on our side in this lawsuit the better.

So you don't need to send me your name or anything, but we can get together alot of people and meet up on a certain day and go over our options.


The email is     (((REDACTED)))


Everyone keep every transport you have done organized, do not give them the hard copy.

ALSO DO NOT sign their new agreement about the flat rate drives, it is a measly $10 for a one way trip regardless of mileage! But the REAL KICKER is that the new agreement has a NON-DEFAMATION clause in it saying that you will never say anything bad about PCT online. Don't sign it or you could be screwed later!!!

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Let's come together and get the money we are owed!!!!

And if that moron Ross Barr responds to me (which I hope he does), please don't sound like an absolute idiot and accuse me of being some Pakistani terrorist who started his own bullcrap company. Maybe have Rosie write it, she can actually speak English!!!!!



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Drivers are realizing Raz Barr is a Con Artist!

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

Im glad more and more drivers are coming forward about the Patient Care Transport scam. They refuse to address the direct complaints of us not getting paid and instead concentrate on this imaginary company and people that they say we are because we complain. 

Everyone if you can, please tell all the drivers you know to post their experiences after reading the reports on this site.

For Everyone just joining us I am a driver that has been with the company more then 4 months, I have done 96 transports and have only received 2 checks from transports that were done in August. When I signed on the contract was for 50% of the bill or lien, it was later changed to 40% for newer drivers. The checks I received were only for 16% and 20%. I have included some tickets for transports that I completed on the previous rebuttal to this one that I made to prove that I am an actual driver for PCT LLC.

Please get all the people you know that have been cheated by this company and Raz Barr to let everyone know on here. We need to get the word out and expose these criminals. We can help drivers that may be in a desperate situation to keep from falling into this tra.

You will not make money working for this company, you will pay out week after week, month after month with no return. Raz Barr is a criminal thief and makes money off of the transports that we complete while we pay money out for gas, insurance, car payments, etc...

Its very interesting, he says he has "proof" that drivers are being paid but Ive never seen any and 100% (without exaggeration) 100% of the drivers I have talked to have NEVER EVER even received a single check! Wait at the drop offs to talk to other drivers and see if they have or not. Its also very interesting that his "proof" of a check was for services from 10-22-2012 and was sent on 12-27-12  when I called just this last week and she told me that hadnt received any checks for September, October, November or December yet. I am pretty sure he forged that document like the ones he showed us at the interviews.

The Con Artist Raz Barr also doesnt like to see anonymous people making reports on this site yet he has anonymous "managers" leaving rebuttals. Every response "from the company" is just Raz Barr, you can tell by the bad English and grammar very easily.

When it all comes down to it, PAY US RAZ BARR! Give us actual proof and not this silly fraud game your running, let us know of some drivers that have actually gotten anything you said they would get, even just 1! Stop lying about absolutely everything. Stop cheating us you fraudster!

I hope this saves new drivers from being conned and current drivers from wasting too much more money. This company does not pay, please save your money!

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#51 UPDATE Employee

getting worried

AUTHOR: Justin - (United States of America)

I have been an employee down here in San Diego I started in Nov though I have only been on 3 runs and all have been up in LA area. They keep telling me that there waiting for things to start over here cause they just branched out here and they say they are still putting things together. I dont know if this is a scam or not but i hope its not but for the person who said they were only paid like 16% of what they said they would be paid couldnt you take some kinda law action cause i signed an agreement as im sure you did as well saying we would be paid 40% of the bill.

As for the managers im not calling your company a scam or trying to bad mouth it cause im still new and I just dont know. Though one thing is that you guys did say is we would receive a copy of the bill a few days after and I have yet to see anything yet so that is making me worried I would like to see a copy of the bills it would put my mind to rest. I have no problem releasing my name if you need it for any reason I just want to make sure you guys do your part on what you said would be done cause I have been doing my part. 
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#52 UPDATE Employee

im getting worried

AUTHOR: Justin - (United States of America)

I have been an employee down here in San Diego I started in Nov though I have only been on 3 runs and all have been up in LA area. They keep telling me that there waiting for things to start over here cause they just branched out here and they say they are still putting things together. I dont know if this is a scam or not but i hope its not but for the person who said they were only paid like 16% of what they said they would be paid couldnt you take some kinda law action cause i signed an agreement as im sure you did as well saying we would be paid 40% of the bill.

As for the managers im not calling your company a scam or trying to bad mouth it cause im still new and I just dont know. Though one thing is that you guys did say is we would receive a copy of the bill a few days after and I have yet to see anything yet so that is making me worried I would like to see a copy of the bills it would put my mind to rest. I have no problem releasing my name if you need it for any reason I just want to make sure you guys do your part on what you said would be done cause I have been doing my part. 
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#53 UPDATE Employee

im getting worried

AUTHOR: Justin - (United States of America)

I have been an employee down here in San Diego I started in Nov though I have only been on 3 runs and all have been up in LA area. They keep telling me that there waiting for things to start over here cause they just branched out here and they say they are still putting things together. I dont know if this is a scam or not but i hope its not but for the person who said they were only paid like 16% of what they said they would be paid couldnt you take some kinda law action cause i signed an agreement as im sure you did as well saying we would be paid 40% of the bill.

As for the managers im not calling your company a scam or trying to bad mouth it cause im still new and I just dont know. Though one thing is that you guys did say is we would receive a copy of the bill a few days after and I have yet to see anything yet so that is making me worried I would like to see a copy of the bills it would put my mind to rest. I have no problem releasing my name if you need it for any reason I just want to make sure you guys do your part on what you said would be done cause I have been doing my part. 
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#54 UPDATE Employee

Also feel used...

AUTHOR: anon - (United States of America)

   Upon interview, it is explained you should get paid within 30-45 days, at least a percentage of the work you have done.  A good con artist has answers for everything and it seems like what might be happening here, but all answers I have received from PCT have been explainable, even acceptable, though tough to stomach.  I have transports more than 3 months old and have yet to receive my first paycheck.  I call and question this since it contradicts what I was promised at interview, however, excuses/reasons are given that make sense.  I was told the tickets were turned in improperly and amended, then resubmitted.  So the 30-45 days starts over from the resubmitted date.  If this is the case, I am currently in the 40 day range for over a month of tickets.  I too have done more than 20 transports for this company and have made them an obscene ($50,000 estimated) in a short few months of employment.  It seems unlikely a company of this nature cannot pay portions of money owed with some kind of side account, but they don't.   Instead they make excuses for everything and try to tell you to wait another week.  "We should get more checks in..."  "You should get paid soon..."  From our end, it sucks!!! Rarely, can someone in this economy spend out of pocket for 3 months without any kind of compensation whatsoever.  I've even been told directly from an office employee that PCT was trying to find some sort of medium by fronting small portions of checks prior to receipt for gas and other expenses, but nothing has come of it yet.  Is it a scam?  This is yet to be seen, but I'm leaning towards yes, and shame on me for putting thousands into a job, blindly on hope alone.  You know what they say about "Too good to be true."   I have met several drivers with this company, none have ever seen a check.  Not one cent.  I doubt this is coincidence.  It doesn't seem that anyone makes money working for them.  Ross, your only course of action here is to have employees that have been paid post here.  Your posts will solve nothing.  Your promises of proof when you can type and print anything you want on paper mean nothing.  Get an employee who HAS been paid to post and give experiences.  As drivers, we need to know from other drivers that there is a light at the end of PCT's dark, dark tunnel.
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#55 Author of original report

Ross Barr is a CON MAN THIEF!

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

Patient Care says they have hundreds of drivers (which they do) and do hundreds of transports a day (which they do) which means in the last few months they have done 10's of thousands of transports and you give proof by one small check that you may be a fake that you forged??? Ross Barr is the real fraudster and criminal. Pay us our money. Anyone who says anything about this company on this site they will just deny and say you are some other person that he made up. Im sorry for myself, Ed, Lisa and every other driver that you conned Ross Barr. Just pay us the money you owe us and we will stop telling the truth about your rotten company on here. By the way, my first transport was also in August and I have done 96 transports and have only received 2 checks, the first one was 98 days after the transport date and was only 16% of what it should have been. Also to all you other drivers out there, back when I started in the beginning we signed on for 50% of the bill, they later changed it to a 40% cut for the newer drivers, it didn't matter though, my only 2 checks were for 16% and 20%. 

Investigation for fake post? That would be excellent to show what a lying cheat you are. Every post that says is from Anaheim was from me, the author. Im sorry you dont posses the intelligence to see that. I hope you are sued for all the scams you have started. All the drivers should make a class action lawsuit against you for misrepresentation, scams, fraud and outright lying. You couldn't sue us for defamation anyway, truth is the defense against that and we are telling the truth.

Im getting real tired of this back and forth so I just have one more warning for anyone thinking about working for this company: BEWARE: Patient Care Transport is a fraudulent scam company, you will not be paid for months and when and if you are it will only be for a fraction of what they said it would be. Ross Barr is a Con Artist and Liar and will cheat you at any chance he can. He says you will receive liens, you wont, he says you will receive bills, you wont, he says you will receive checks, you wont. He is a fraudster criminal that cannot be trusted.

I am not an unreasonable man, go ahead and work for him, just do 1 or 2 transports and see if you get paid, after 4 and a half or 5 months and you haven't gotten a check you will see for yourself how this company is a sham. All the people that did so many transports including me because they thought they would be paid didn't have this warning but you do. Dont trust this lying cheat or you will find yourself on this site making a ripoff report about him then having him accuse you of being someone you are not.

To prove I am a driver and not one of these people that Ross Barr has made up I am attaching one of my earlier transport tickets and one from recently to show that I am still a current driver!

I will update this report again if anything changes within the company. Good luck to all and be safe.
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#56 REBUTTAL Owner of company

baseless comments - Investigation for any fake post

AUTHOR: Manager - (United States of America)

This is the last time we will address scammers from Alpha Care Transport trying to defame our company or drivers who work for a competing company trying to defame our company. If you have a real complaint we will be happy to address even here if you reveal your real name so we can show everyone when you started and what transports you have done and status of your payments. 

No scam and no BS. 

We run a serious ethical business and top clients nationally. So we wont address any anonymous fake posts managed by fraudsters. If you are a driver for us post your real info so we can show - we do not cheat or scam ANYONE! The opposite.

We never guarantee when payment will be made by insurance companies. Statistically they pay first check within 30-45 days and 3 out of 8 will be paid in that time frame.

We will be happy to show any agreement or Ad we post to hire drivers showing otherwise! and status of any checks or any REAL person who post here and work for us. The posts here are fake
 
Also 3 out of 8 paid within 30-45 days. Some payments take longer than others.

This is no scam and we will pursue serious investigation even on these anonymous users who post here with Anonymous info defaming or company.

If you are a new driver that cannot wait till be paid by insurance company for transport - Please do not apply
 
We have many happy reliable drivers making great money with our company and working for us is not just a solid job opportunity but a very lucrative job opp.

This is the last time we address these baseless comments. We will pursue web investigation for whomever defame or company here and Post baseless comments and lies even if remain anonymous.

little proof we are for real- see attached photo. 1 simple transport.

All Transports are paid. Again if you are a new driver face this baseless comments posted here. Do your due diligence before Applying.

This is the most lucrative opp in transports. Indeed, you do need to initially wait for payment as released by insurance companies.

If you are a driver starving for cash - or gas money - or unethical or have any flaw in your driving record or backgrounds - DO NOT APPLY.

We only hire selected drivers who have the right background and ethics who can become professional reliable drivers making great income! 

Dear Lisa . Last Name??

Interesting many posts come from Anaheim CA..IP address...Alpha Care Transport Fakes who stole our drivers 

Anyone who put baseless comments and lies and defame our company here or in any other site will be sued personally.
 
These posters are managed by Alpha care Transport and Sarkis Mambreian a liar, a scammer and a
thief.

Patient Care Transport i as reliable honest employer for 100's of drivers at many US locations.

We will pursue even on this site anyone who defame and post complete fallacies and lies.

God Bless.
Manager
Patient care Transport
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#57 UPDATE Employee

Very Concerned

AUTHOR: Lisa - (United States of America)

I signed on with Patient Care on Friday, September 7, 2012 and did my first transport on Monday, September 10, 2012, since then I have done almost 50 transports. I have not received any payment yet and these reports have me very concerned that I wont be paid at all. It will be 4 months in a few days and Patient Care tells me they still dont have any payments for me. I have also never received any liens or bills like they say they would provide me a few days after each transport.

I read the Manager's comment about why an employee would keep working for months doing the same thing without being paid and I became mortified because that is exactly what I have been doing. I dont think I will be working for them any longer without receiving any payments or paperwork.

I had a similar experience as the 2nd gentleman driver where I just complete the transports and wait to be paid and wasn't concerned about the liens with my name on them. This brings me to my 2nd concern, how does the manager so easily say that they know who these 2 gentleman are? Isn't it possible that they are actual employees that have not been paid? I am.

I was prepared for the first 30-45 days to not be paid as I was told when I signed up but if my math is correct Its been 114 days since my first transport which I believe is considerably longer then what I was told the average would be.

I just hope this is all a misunderstanding and that we will all be paid soon. I sincerely, truly hope to God that this is not a scam. I am holding onto faith that it will all work out in the end.

P.S. I found out about this post on this site from another driver who hasn't received payment yet for any of her transports either.

God Bless.


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#58 REBUTTAL Owner of company

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AUTHOR: Manager - (United States of America)

These drivers  are choose to remain anonymous since they are not telling the truth and they are working for a competing company.

If not- We will be happy to show all the facts and how long they been working and status of their checks. 

We never mislead anyone. This is the heart of our business and we stand by our stellar reputation and happy drivers and clients.

Why they would not show name so we can show their status of their checks? so you can decide who is telling the truth?

We Run an honest company and these individuals take it on this site since they want to defame our company and our reputation or simple can not afford the 30-45 days we clear in any interview or ad it takes till checks are start coming.

we get checks and payments every day! in fact yesterdays we got 8 checks ranging from $1800 to $600 for transports made.

We are doing hundreds of transports per day and we would not jeopardize our business or skim or scam anyone.

Every transport is getting paid and our company is the premier transport provider for Workers comp patients NATIONALLY.

All Transports are paid - some faster than others and we work diligently that Any transport or driver is paid as soon as possible.

We will be happy to post here check proof after these drivers identify their names the validity of their claims - So we can show you if and when signed and checks they have received. 

These drivers are working for a competing company named alpha Care Transport which is running under a mask of a doc delivery company and tried to solicit our drivers and our clients
Again if not - show us your name and we will show your agreement you have signed and the status of all your checks and transports.

We get checks every day and will show proof after at least one of them is identified.

We will address and show checks as soon as their identify themselves and you can be the judge if they were paid or not.

We will post sample checks just to show this is real and a lucrative business and work opp. real work. real payouts. and a lucrative opp for reliable and hard working honest drivers.

Again this driver works for a competing company: Hi name Sarkis Mambreian and works with Tony Turgeman after tried to steal all our info ( matter is in legal proceedings) and defame our company.
He is  unethical crook and a liar and violated all of his agreements. worked for us less than one month. and he still try to  illegally to defame our company when he try to steal clients and our drivers.

Any driver is always welcome to call us any time and check all copies of bills and liens if required.
Drivers Paid daily and big amounts more than any other Opp our there. So hence the jealousy.

We will post sample checks just to silence this fraudsters from Alpha Care Transport!


Thank you


Patient Care Transport Manager
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#59 UPDATE Employee

Another drivers experience

AUTHOR: Ed - (United States of America)

These comments are meant to explain my experience so far with Patient Care Transport LLC and are not intended to support either the original complaint or the response from the person listed as the company manager.

I hired on as an independent contractor (driver) and completed my first transport on October 15th 2012.  Since then I have completed a little less than 30 transports.  I have not received any checks yet.  I understand that insurance companies sometimes average a 45 day return on payments related to workers compensation cases.  I do not know if Patient Care Transport LLC bills insurance companies on a weekly or monthly basis.  If they bill monthly I would expect to receive my first check anytime now.

I have to admit I have never received any copies of liens with my name on them, but as long as Patient Care Transport makes their payments to me I do not care about copies of the liens.

I will update this report the same day I receive my first check and I will confirm whether or not the amount was the correct percentage as stated in the employment agreement that Mr. Barr and I both signed.

  
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#60 Author of original report

The scammer and con artist Ross Barr takes no responsibility!

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

This company owes me so much money, why would I put my name on here, so I could have zero chance of getting even a little of what I am owed? You are a dishonest man. I am not any of the people that you mentioned in your rebuttal. You run a terrible company, you cant honestly say that you dont have DOZENS of drivers that have worked for you for MONTHS that haven't been paid even one single cent!?

 You say you have all this "proof", that doesn't matter to me, why haven't myself or so many other drivers not been paid yet? Where are our checks?? Where is that proof?? Even if you were wrong about 30% paying in 30-45 days how is it that its 0% in 120 days? I'm sure that whoever stole clients from you or started other companies or defrauded you or whatever, aren't doing any better then you are either. Why the lies?? Forget other companies, why aren't you getting the drivers paid now Ross Barr?

Why do I know over 10 drivers that haven't been paid 1 single dime? Why are you spending so much time trying to make people believe you are paying out when you are not? Why are there people that have worked for you since August that haven't even gotten their first check yet? When are we going to be paid? You are the CRIMINAL for pushing these lies about being paid, if I am wrong, show me, please prove me wrong, please pay us! You say some dont last the first 30 days, fine, what about the 2nd 30 days, the 3rd, the 4th? How long do we need to keep calling in about being paid and listening to we just have to call back next week? Do you deny this? Do you deny that over 80% of your drivers have NEVER been paid anything?

I was a real driver for you Ross but you take no responsibility, you are an immoral man. I'm sorry for whoever is trying to defraud you but that does not take away the fact that you built this company on the backs and hard works of others and reaped all the benefits while you let good, hard working people get conned into helping you.

 I hope everyone that see the ads you place on craigslist searches and finds these posts before they fall into your scam company and any other scam company that anyone starts because of what you "say" was stolen from you. I hope you, patient care transport, alpha care transport and whoever else is involved in your scams all have to pay for what you've done to the honest people you have conned! 
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#61 REBUTTAL Owner of company

False Allegations

AUTHOR: Manager - (United States of America)


This individual/fraudster choose to remain anonymous since he is a real crook and criminal since he opened a competitor company and stole all of our material and other drivers! We had 4 previous drivers and our previous dispatcher who stole material from our company and opened a competitor company while violating all of their work agreements!
This matter now in legal proceedings. see company: Alpha care transport..close name?:)?

We do not ripoff anyone or myself!  Honest and hard working people work for patient Care transport!

We Highly value or our drivers and all employees and our reputation of our company and all directors!

We do get paid when the insurance company pays us and some rides pay faster than others pending on the insurance company.We have copies and will upload proven small checks and big checks(big  amounts) to show drivers and ALL drivers getting paid on a regular basis all the time as insurance company send them as abide by WC law!

We never try to mislead anyone and any driver know that checks within the first 30 days of work
are usually paid in 3/8 ratio as the normal in this industry in the 30-45 days range. Some are real big checks some are smaller but all paid in full and any driver get his check on minute when checks are received.

Some faster than others all pending on the insurance company and this is an  amazing driving job opp. Some drivers who can not survive the first 30  days do not seem to understand though we clearly state that in any
agreement before Background check and DMV check and interview that not all rides paid in 30-45 days since insurance co. delay payment in some instances.

This driver who posted these false allegations is a real crook. He is one of the group mentioned below and he is working for a competing company doing the same type of transports!
how Ironic..for same company doing the same thing...

we have proofs to show here after he identify himself  -so we can show his records and info and agreements and his illegal activity when stealing from our company.

If he really do not think he ever will be paid why does he work for a company doing the same thing!!????

 This fraudster tried to hurt our company and our reputation. we have all the proofs to show as soon as he shows his real name and info we will  upload all agreements for anyone to decide.Real proofs. We doubt he ever he show his real name here and continue to remain anonymous. we shall see... we hope he does reveal his identity.
His name most likely is Sarkis Mambrein and he worked with another driver names Armen Papoyan who managed to bring another crook name Viet/Sunny See below.

They all violated their agreements and opened/worked for competitor company they established with a person name Tony who owned A doc delivery company that liked our special niche business and with criminals mentioned below started a copy cat business using all of our company info and investment!

This Tony and Sarkis with Olga(hired her as his new dispatcher) tried to copy cat all of our business without any success. See alpha care transport. we have proofs to show.
Sarkis Mambreian and Armen Paopyan leading the way with German Rodriguez as the group of drivers who hardly work with company and stole company material and worked for a competitor who also tried to steal our clients: Alpha care transport from: Hawthrone CA

We will be happy to show the 1099 agreement this driver signed and our 100% obligation and commitment for all our drivers .
This driver is a crook and worked for a competitor company. His name his Sarkis
We have all proof all documents he signed and his actions to open a competitor company
He is a crook and a liar and will be sued with our previous Dispatcher Olga Solzerano
and another Aremnian crook driver all worked in cahoots with Olga Solzerano. They defrauded our company. We have all proof and will upload to anyone interested.

See company Alpha Care transport that tried to copycat all of our business: even our name:) our logo and all our internal system.All will be handled by our lawyer. Owner name is Tony.

If he choose to remain anonymous sign is the crook Armen Papoyan or Sarkis Mambrien  or German Rodriguez or Sony.Why do not you reveal you true name and I will show you our agreement and checks people getting paid and the agreement. We have all proof to show this is a disgruntled criminal Contractor and possible one who opened a competitor company.

Any agreement with any drivers is clearly explained and made clear that we work our best to get faster payment from insurance company we have  top billing and collections companies that are doing marvelous job for our drivers and for faster payment for all of our drivers.No one cheat in our company is trying to cheat anyone.

we try to hire the best in the business and the company is focused on faster billing and fast big payout and payments for all of our partners including drivers.
No opp like this exist in transport so hence the  jealousy and drivers who tried to steal our business.

No one from our company cheat anyone!

But these drivers are not only crooks  and violated their agreements - but opened a competitor company: Alpha care transport
evidently, they try to defame our company and director name when they committed the fraud and lies.

Director have a stellar record of managing this company and others. Any complained from any driver is always addressed by our billing dept first and then by the manager of that department with no exceptions

we will be happy to address his concerns one by one if he identify himself and show us his name and so we can show all agreements Mr. Crook has signed clear work agreements and  nothing was hidden from him and work
diligently and hard first and for most so all of our drivers will be paid first!

Employer : Be aware before you hire again!

Sarkis Mambreian  - Thief Driver Crook #1 - We will show all info on him and his fraud actions.
This guy also run a scam real estate company that reap people in short sales.

Olga solorzano - Fraudulently Dispatcher #1 - Stole or attempted to steal all of our company information.
Armen Papoyan - Thief Driver Crook #2
Sony Nguyen - Thief Driver Crook #3
German Antonio Rodriguez -Thief Driver Crook #4 - This driver even already got Paid!

All worked together to defraud our company. BE aware of them in any business you do!!

We worked exteremly hard on developing this business and unique infrastructure and our  success is due to strong management team hard work and vision. we treat all our workers and partners how we would like to be treated. we have
clients all over US who love our service and our reliability.

Our reputation and hard work would not be jeopardized by crooks or criminals who post on this site. We will show proof to anyone as soon this "Anonymous user" is identified and pursue legal proceedings against them


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