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  • Submitted: Tue, February 19, 2008
  • Updated: Mon, December 27, 2010

  • Reported By:Plainville Connecticut
Paula Walters/Paulaspuppies
23360 Hwy32 Lebanon, Missouri U.S.A.

Paula Walters/Paulaspuppies sick puppy Lebanon Missouri

*Consumer Comment: Please look this up on internet. Very disturbing!

* : USDA Inspection of Ms. Walters

*Consumer Comment: Being from Lebanon myself.....

*Consumer Comment: Paula...You and your daughter are the ones changing your names all the time...not me!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Debbie, Get a Life and Mental help!!!!!

*Consumer Comment: Victim Of Christi Harmon

*Consumer Comment: PLEASE NOTIFY NEXT DAY PETS IF YOU PURCHASED A SICK OR DYING PUPPY FROM PAULA WALTERS

*Consumer Suggestion: Update on Paula Walters and Family Kennels

*Consumer Suggestion: Update on Paula Walters and Family Kennels

*Consumer Suggestion: Update on Paula Walters and Family Kennels

*Consumer Suggestion: Update on Paula Walters and Family Kennels

*Consumer Suggestion: Paula Walters Refund

*Consumer Comment: I Agree, I Never Purchased a Puppy from Paula Walters

*Author of original report: paula

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: DEBBIE - YOU ARE VERY SICK!!!!

*Consumer Comment: Paula Walters and Christi Harmons Health Certificates Are Useless!

*Consumer Suggestion: *****UPDATE****CHRISTI HARMON filed positive review as TM in Co Springs!!**TM is fictional!!**

*Consumer Suggestion: Vaccine Effectivness

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Get your facts straight!!!!

*Consumer Comment: SO.....WHICH AIRPORT WAS IT ANYWAY? CONFLICTING INFORMATION! TRIPPING OVER THEIR OWN LIES?

*Consumer Comment: You Can Not See or Smell Parvo!

*Consumer Comment: Parvo has a 10-14 day incubation period

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Tried of the SLANDER!!

*Consumer Suggestion: Documentation

*Consumer Comment: The William/Fischer sisters are Scammers

*Consumer Suggestion: We stand by our statements

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Very Reputable Breeder for years!!!!!

*Consumer Comment: Nothing but Great puppies.... Call and Verify

*Consumer Comment: Paula Walters and Christi Harmon are Heartless

*Consumer Suggestion: Get a lawyer and contact the FBI

*Consumer Comment: Yes please call the state and find out what kind of good people these people are

*Consumer Suggestion: ***update***please call and share you experience!!!Double C ranch, ChristisPuppies, CodyChristi, Harmon Kennels, PaulasPuppies

*Consumer Comment: Response to Paula Walters Rebuttal

*Consumer Comment: Got the Wrong kennel lady ...Just because I am in Missouri doesnt mean anything

*Consumer Suggestion: *****Enough is Enough**Christispuppies, Christi Harmon, Double C ranch, Harmon Kennels, CodyChristi and PaulasPuppies

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I received a West highland white terrier puppy from Paula Walters and within three days it had full blown parvo and within one week it was dead. This has cost me roughly 1400.00 for a dog I owned less than 3 days. Despite numerous phone calls and e-mails, not to mention scientific proof from 2 vets and an article on the internet, Paula has refused to either send me my money back or offer me a new westie puppy. She had the nerve to offer me a corgi puppy. I think she may not be the real breeder and is brokering for someone else.

Could it be a coincidence that her daughter is Christie Harmon, who has several complaints against her and also lives on Hwy32 in Lebanon,MO?

Please do not buy from Paula Walters. She is unethical in her business and then has the audacity to quote the bible to you when you call her on it.

There is a special place for people like her.

Lisa
Plainville, Connecticut
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Please look this up on internet. Very disturbing!

AUTHOR: Susan williams - (U.S.A.)

"DNR complaint concerning dozens of dogs discarded at an open dump site (potentially from breeders Cody and Christy Harmon of Lebanon, MO)"

This article, published in October of 2010 shows disturbing photos of litters of puppies thrown on a garbage dump.

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USDA Inspection of Ms. Walters

AUTHOR: Walnut hill - (U.S.A.)

I do not think that "moderate to excessive matted hair" constitutes passing an inspection with flying colors - if that's what the USDA inspector said, it must have been REALLY bad.

 

http://www.aphis.usda.gov/animal_welfare/Inspection_Reports//A%20-%20BREEDER/MO/PAULA%20WALTERS%20-%20%2043-A-5408.pdf

 

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#3 Consumer Comment

Being from Lebanon myself.....

AUTHOR: Infamous - (U.S.A.)

I am a resident of Lebanon. I worked as a veterinary assistant in Springfield for several years prior to moving here. Yes, the incubation period for Parvo is approximately 10-14 days (but sometimes stress can cause it to break sooner). It is ridiculous to say that you can SMELL a virus. Even my 8 year old daughter knows better than that. You can smell the vomit and diarrhea AFTER the virus exposes itself--but since the incubation period is around 2 weeks of course you would not see signs in your kennel.

The puppies can usually gain some antibodies against the parvo virus from their mother while nursing. Once they are weaned...their immunity to the virus lowers, which is probably about the time they contract the virus from their environment and are sold. Which is why they get terribly sick after they are sent to their new homes. Paul and Christi--if you are truly wanting to have a good dog breeding business my advise to you would be to burn your kennel and all its contents to the ground and build a new one on a different area of your property. You will also need to quarantine and then vaccinate all your current adult dogs before moving them to the new location. Parvo can live in the environment (i.e. grass) for years. You cannot disinfect grass and soil.

Most everyone here in town knows about this kennel, which is why they have to do the majority of their business cross country. I am not a breeder, I am not a business owner, I am not out to ruin anyones livelyhood. The fact is, if you are going to have a business like this it needs to be done correctly. Especially when there are lives at stake.

My friend is a legal assistant here in Lebanon (her sister also went to high school with Christi), and just as a tidbit of info--neither Paulas husband, nor Cody Harmon are attorneys. That ones pretty hilarious. Its obvious who is not in their right mind here--and who sets at home all day with nothing better to do.

Good luck ladies (victims) I hope you can get some type of closure out of this situation.
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#4 Consumer Comment

Paula...You and your daughter are the ones changing your names all the time...not me!

AUTHOR: Steelers Rock In Pa - (U.S.A.)

Paula...you and your daughter, Christi , are the people changing names all the time in order to continue selling sick and dying puppies! I have never ever lied or changed my name or made up reports on here.

Unfortunately, the puppy I bought from your daughter, the one your shipped to me, the one that your name is on the Health Certificate for flying, the one that I originally wrote about, the one that I paid a lot of money for, the one that was advertised as a healthy, Full AKC rights, show quality Clumber Spaniel, will be put down tomorrow. The stomach condition that he arrived with and has been being treated for for the last year has finally become unmanagable with vet care and medications.

I have spent over $8,000 on his condition and I thought he would be able to live a happy life, but the sickness has won out and there isn't enough money or meds that will help him now. The poor boy doesn't deserve to suffer because of your daughter's evilness. Your daughter will get her just rewards one day and so will you.

I don't care what type of house you live in. I don't care if you are rich and famous. Both you and your daughter are terrible terrible people and poor excuses for humans. You do get your puppies from auctions and there is proof of that and you know it.

I don't want you to pray for me. I have a life, and one of my goals in my life is to shut you and your daughter down. Especially now. I have more time now that I don't have to run to the vets every week and take care of a sick puppy.

I will state once again...I bought a Clumber Spaniel puppy from your daughter Christi Harmon that arrived sick and without AKC papers. I have stated that from the beginning and I have all the vet bills to prove it. I have always stated my name when I wrote a ripoffreport comment or rebuttal.

You, Paula and your daughter Christi Harmon and her husband Codi Harmon are the people who are sick. You are the people who lie and threaten people. You and your daughter should have done the right thing and reimbursed the people who bought sick and dying puppies from you. You are the people who need to get a life...a life filled with the heartache and pain that you have caused so many others.

Rest assured... even though my baby boy is gone... he will not be forgotten nor will I forget. I have only just started!
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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Debbie, Get a Life and Mental help!!!!!

AUTHOR: P Jean - (U.S.A.)

Debbie, what is your problem. You have never purchased a puppy from me. You are mad at my daughter which has nothing to do with me. You are always blabbing on and one about me and my daughter having a "puppymill". Apparently, you don't know what a puppymill looks like because they are very bad places for now only dogs to live but also adults to live also. We have a great kennel and the Missouri State will let you know that what we have is inspected at least once or twice a year and we have a very reputable place of business.
You need to get a life and quit being so miserable. I really think that you could use some type of medical or mental help. Your life has to be so miserable and you want to make other people miserable just like you. But if the readers keep reading all of what you and your friends are saying they will know that you are all the same people. You can keep writing on ripoff and people will keep reading it, but it does not make it so.
We have been selling puppies for 3 going on 4 years and if people that are reading this stuff will see that they time period that have been written about us is the same time of the year that you and your friends have written. But if you think that you are hurting our business, think again.
If you did not live so far away, we would come to your town and sue you for slander but when you raise puppies, they cannot be left alone to fend for themselves like puppymills do. Anytime that you would like to come and see my place of business, come on, I have absolutely nothing to hide. I have more people that pick up their puppies here at my home than I do shipping them.

As about me purchasing puppies from auctions, how can I put my name on their registration puppy papers if I did not raise them myself? Explain that one!!!!! I wish that I had nothing else to do but set at a computer everyday and see how much trouble that I can cause to innocent people.
I ship out of Springfield, Mo. and a transportation company ships some of my puppies out of Kansas City, Mo. and also St. Louis, Mo. when the temperatures are too hot for me to ship out of Springfield,Mo. So that will clarify the statement on the shipping process that you are trying to say that I lie about.
Also, if you can learn to read on Next Day Pets, when I put my puppies on the Internet (at any age) it will tell the buyer when they will be ready to be released to their new owners and it is never before 8 weeks. Sorry that you tried to make something out of that and it showed that you only read what you want to read.
I really feel sorry for you. I am suppose to do the right thing and pray for you but it is getting hard for me to do that for you because of your attitude and lies. Apparently, I need to pray that you will get a life and I do feel sorry for you because you do need help. Has your family not told you that if you don't move on that your mind will be filled with anguish and hate and that you could loose your mind and your health.
I swore that I would never write on this terrible website but you might think that I was really guilty but this website is really a joke. People can write anything that they want to and get by with it. In March I said that I would never write again, but I had a customer tell me about your write up in August and I need to write again to stand my ground also.
Leave me alone because you have never purchased a puppy from me and you know it. You have never been here at my home either. I would love to send you a picture of my place and kennel if you would like to see where we live and what our kennels look like. But , of course, if I did send you a picture you would probably make some kind of lie about that too.
I do feel sorry for you. So I am sure that you will respond on this message but I don't have time nor do I care what you have to say . I do have a life.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Victim Of Christi Harmon

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

I also had a bad experience with Christi Harmon, I bought a sweet little puppy from her and when we brought her home she wasnt quite up to snuff. I called Christi and she said was probably coccidia and I should give her Albon. I did, no use, when we took her to vet the next day he at first thought it was because I had fed her something I shouldnt so he gave us medicine for this. The next day we took her back because she was showing no signs of inprovement in fact she was worse and so he ran tests on her and discovered she had Parvo!

We had to leave her there at the vet and when we got home I emailed Christi and told her what was going on, she was very eympathetic and told me to let her know how the puppy made out. 2 days later my pup was dead, from the day we picked her up until the day she died, was exactly 8 days. The vet said she sold us a pup with parvo.

When I contacted her after several emails she said she would replace the pup for me but I didnt want another parvo puppy, I told her I would just take my money back. She immediately got mad and said that she didnt have contracts because of people like me that would try to rip her off. I fought and argued with her for several months but she just got more hateful, then she blocked my emails, and her husband Coty started callng me and threatening me, and then he told me he was a lawyer, he isnt another lie, and that he was going to press charges against me for harressment!!!

I finally contacted the Attorney Generals office and there was more time involved and more lies from her, she didnt let me come to her house I had to meet her at walmart, but she even lied about that. The lies just continued, I was trying to start my own breeding business but because of that one poor little puppy I wound up losing 3 more because they were less than 15 weeks old. I could not afford that kind of financial punch. Awhile after Coty started threatening me I became ill and eventually had to have quadtruple heart by pass surgery and was not able t pursue this any further. My vet even offered to send the pup to her for an autopsy and she said she didnt want a damn dead dog what good was that going to do her?

I never was reinbursed from her the 550.00 I paid for the pup or the 1500.00 that I had paid for the other 3 pups, as far as I am concerned she owes me at the very least 2,000.00. I also put a bad review in Puppyfind on her and at that time there was another bad review on her and in a day or two they were gone. I think she should be shut down, fined, and never be allowed to own a dog again and I also think she should have to pay everyone she has hurt, lied to, and sold a sick dog to. Her husband Coty said to me when I told him I had loved that little pup, how could you love a pup you had only had for 8 days? Dog Lovers how rude and cold hearted is that?????
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#7 Consumer Comment

PLEASE NOTIFY NEXT DAY PETS IF YOU PURCHASED A SICK OR DYING PUPPY FROM PAULA WALTERS

AUTHOR: Steelers Rock In Pa - (U.S.A.)

This is Debbie from Pittsburgh. If you purchased a sick or dying puppy from Paula Walters in Lebanon, Missouri or her daughter Christi Harmon, please email nextdaypets.com to have Paula Walters removed from their site. After continuous, daily, weekly, monthly emails from me and others, and notification of a lawsuit, nextdaypets.com has removed Christi Harmon from advertising on their site. If you have notified nextdaypets.com of your dealings with Paula Walters and they have done nothing about it, please post here with your information. Nextdaypets told me that they had no complaints against Paula Walters and that is why they could not remove her ads from their site.

As of this morning, Paula Walters had a total of 48 puppies listed on nextdaypets.com. Six Coton De Tulears, Six Pembroke Welsh Corgis advertised as six weeks old, one Silky Terrier 34 weeks old, five Maltese 4 six weeks old and 1 35 weeks old, two Clumber Spaniels both 22 weeks old but one is a MINI? who for some unknown reason stopped growing, eight Shih Tzus, fourteen Pomeranians, two Newfoundlands both 25 weeks old, Two Old English Sheepdogs, one Chihuahua and one German Shepherd 24 weeks old. Selling puppies at six weeks? Paula Walters buys her puppies at auction and sells them over the internet. These dogs are never seen by a vet.

Paula Walters and her daughter Christi Harmon are both puppymillers.
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#8 Consumer Suggestion

Update on Paula Walters and Family Kennels

AUTHOR: Susan Williams - (U.S.A.)

Please beware that they are now doing business as Don Paula.
Paula Walters is no longer using her real name. This is the same unscrupulous breeder. Do not buy from this breeder- Don Paula.
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#9 Consumer Suggestion

Update on Paula Walters and Family Kennels

AUTHOR: Susan Williams - (U.S.A.)

Please beware that they are now doing business as Don Paula.
Paula Walters is no longer using her real name. This is the same unscrupulous breeder. Do not buy from this breeder- Don Paula.
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#10 Consumer Suggestion

Update on Paula Walters and Family Kennels

AUTHOR: Susan Williams - (U.S.A.)

Please beware that they are now doing business as Don Paula.
Paula Walters is no longer using her real name. This is the same unscrupulous breeder. Do not buy from this breeder- Don Paula.
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#11 Consumer Suggestion

Update on Paula Walters and Family Kennels

AUTHOR: Susan Williams - (U.S.A.)

Please beware that they are now doing business as Don Paula.
Paula Walters is no longer using her real name. This is the same unscrupulous breeder. Do not buy from this breeder- Don Paula.
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#12 Consumer Suggestion

Paula Walters Refund

AUTHOR: Susan Williams - (U.S.A.)

Here is some consumer advice: try contacting you credit card company. We have had promising news about Master Card refunding the price of the puppy. They are treating it like defective goods. We have sent all documentation to them, vet reports and even Paula's own inspection reports, (which prove nothing to advance her case) and it looks good. This is proof positive that Ms. Walters et al is guilty in our case. Then MC will go after her for the refund. If everyone involved with this family does this, they will not stay in business for long. Their accounts will be suspended eventually. We need to be vigilant.

Another concern is these websites that allow these breeders carte blanche when it comes to selling these animals and then won't allow the buyers to complain. Then the breeder is allowed to remove the review. It seems to be a money make for all but the buyer and the poor innocent animal. If anyone has a suggestion please let us know. Thank you.
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#13 Consumer Comment

I Agree, I Never Purchased a Puppy from Paula Walters

AUTHOR: Steelers Rock In Pa - (U.S.A.)

Paula, I never did purchase a puppy from you. I have never stated that I have purchased a puppy from you. Your name is listed as Consignor on the Small Animal Health Certificate that was sent to me with my puppy. It was your daughter who stated that you and her sell puppies together. You sell small breed and she sells large breed. She stated that, not me.

As far as my mental condition, employment status and personality go you must have facts to back those statements up. Although I myself sometimes question my mental status, my employment status is well documented by the IRS. My personality is up to everyone's own interpretation. Am I lonely? Yes at times since my husband's death I am lonely but my friends and family help fill the void. Am I uneducated? I guess I am uneducated because I only have a Masters Degree in Business Management along with an Associates Degree in Nursing. Am I lazy? I will not render an opinion on that. Another one of those traits that are a matter of opinion. Am I ignorant and illiterate? I believe these posts will prove who is ignorant and illiterate along with the other characteristics you attribute to me. Am I bitter? If you mean do I feel cheated? Do I feel angry? Then yes I am bitter. I will confirm that analysis.

I have never spoken to you. You have never given me your phone number. Although your daughter has my phone number and address and has stated that you have tried to contact me, I have never heard from you either by phone, email or United States Postal Service. I have never heard from your attorney husband or any attorney that represents either you or Christi Harmon. I have never heard from any of my puppy's littermates or any other satisfied customers. I have never made up fake reviews on here or elsewhere.

I have never said anything about your kennel. I have just stated here that the Health Certificate is useless. The Health Certificate is issued so that the Airline has documentation that a puppy or animal is able to fly between temperatures of 85 to 10 degrees.

The investigation into my puppy's AKC registration is ongoing and I have never been notified by the AKC that I will not get registration papers for my puppy. I have requested and paid for a DNA test kit to test my puppy's pedigree.

Thank you Paula for proving that the apple does not fall far from the tree.

Debbie from Pittsburgh
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#14 Author of original report

paula

AUTHOR: Lisa fischer - (U.S.A.)

this mill owner is obviously very nervous because we are taking the time to find the people who can stop her. Everyone she claims can prove her innocence was never told the whole story.Inspections were conducted but no mention was made of parvo . I have sent all the appropriate parties all documentation and letters from paula and have received very interesting phone calls and letters in return.To quote one inspector,"I smell a mouse."

It is very hard to battle ignorance. Thank you all for trying.
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#15 REBUTTAL Owner of company

DEBBIE - YOU ARE VERY SICK!!!!

AUTHOR: P Jean - (U.S.A.)

I wish that you would seek professional help. I do not know you , nor do I want to. I have never sold you a puppy nor would I ever sell you one. I do know that AKC notified you that you would not receive any more registration papers from them on a puppy that you state you did not receive one and that has really got you upset. You can keep this up if it makes you feel better but it is going to make a very bitter person out of you. If you have nothing better to do than set on a computer all day and watch what puppies that I sell and write to ripoff and every where else, then you are nothing but a lazy, crazy, insane, jealous, bitter, troublemaker, lonely, non-productive, opinionator, habitual gripper, unemployed. uneducated, ignorant, illiterate, complainer, loser.

Anyone that is reading this, can you tell that she is CRAZY?? I don't know how to get rid of this person but I can prove to anyone that I have a legitimate vet. I can give you his phone number when you ask for it. I can also prove that the Missouri State Inspector was at my kennel with the Missouri State of Agriculture report of that inpsection of my kennel. I have nothing to hide. I have several customers that come to my place pick up the puppies that they purchase so that I have nothing to hide.

I gave this Debbie my phone number but as of yet she has not called me. She is only brave on the internet, not face to face.
To this day, DEBBIE HAS NEVER PURCHASED A PUPPY FROM ME!
Paula Walters
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#16 Consumer Comment

Paula Walters and Christi Harmons Health Certificates Are Useless!

AUTHOR: Steelers Rock In Pa - (U.S.A.)

This is Debbie from Pittsburgh. I'd like to say to anonymous from Missouri that I think your information is very valuable and you must be a wonderful person, not to mention very knowledgeable and kind. You seem like a reputable person. Thank you.

The Health Certificate you get from either Paula Walters or Christi Harmon apparently does not mean a thing. So many people have received sick and dying puppies from both of them and all Health Certificates for flying are signed by the same vet. The same vet who can not pull up a file and tell you anything about your puppy and why he would have signed a Health Certificate for flying a day before and you have your puppy at the vets within an hour of picking him up from the airport with an intestinal disease and kennel cough or have your puppy to a vet within hours or days with mange, worms, ear mites not to mention parvo. Unbelievable but true.

Christi Harmon and Paula Walters sell thousand of puppies through puppyfind.com and nextdaypets.com. I am sure that not all their puppies are sick and I am sure that many people are happy with their puppies. Christi Harmon and Paula Walters advertise that they guarantee their puppies but, in reality, they do not. Christi Harmon and Paula Walters should have made restitution to the people who purchased sick and dying puppies from them or to people who did not received what was advertised and paid for. They should not call these people liars and worse. If you want to be known as a reputable person you must be reputable. Reputable means being honest, trustworthy and decent, none of which either Christi Harmon or Paula Walters has been in dealing with customers who have been ripped off by them.

Those of us who have had to nurse a sick dog back to health or worse, had to have our precious ones put out of their misery, must stick together so that others do not have to go through what we have endured. Hopefully these rip off reports will alert the public until we get our justice done through the legal system.
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#17 Consumer Suggestion

*****UPDATE****CHRISTI HARMON filed positive review as TM in Co Springs!!**TM is fictional!!**

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

In fact Puppyfind took all of her reviews away because they found that they were being sent from her own computer... She states on her puppy page that her her reviews were lost, they were not, she was penalized for filing false positive reviews!!! Christi Harmon has terrible grammar and spelling, something that you will find in common with ALL of her positive reviews and the comments from her "HAPPY" customers. TM was started and appeared first on my complaint page, but if you look, Christi apparently forgot about this particular lie and slammed them on your complaint.. Its funny because this was once her happiest customer!!!!! Thats what happens when you tell too many lies...Christi Harmon is unable to tell the truth. Which is NO suprise to anyone to has been unfortunate enough to have to deal with her.

******Christi Harmon - Double C Ranch - Harmon Kennels terrible breeder, lies and refuses to take responsibilty for sick inferior puppies Lebanon Missouri***

This my complaint, you'll find the "birth" of TM, and further proof of how big of a liar Christi Harmon is.
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#18 Consumer Suggestion

Vaccine Effectivness

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

Boy, this is a mess but I just thought I would give my two cents about vaccinations and their effectivness.

Titer = a measure of a vaccines effectivness

Here are the titers for 5 brands of vaccines.

NEOPAR
(NEOTECH, LLC) Average serial 3,162,278/dose

Vanguard
(Pfizer) serial 183615090, Exp: 10/10/00 100,000/dose

Progard
(Intervet) serial 4019001, Exp: 8/1/00 245,471/dose

Duramune KF-11
(Ft.Dodge) serial 1481474A, Exp: 4/1/01
794,328/dose

Duramune Max PV (2b)
(Ft.Dodge) serial 1211008, Exp: 5/22/00 15,849/dose

As said before no vaccine is 100% fool proof, enviromental, nutrition and stress factors are taken into consideration. Parvo has a MINIMUM incubation period of 7 days, clinical symptoms do not usually show until 10 days after contracting the disease. So while the puppy may have passed its health certificate inspection and passed through the airport, that just means the disease was still in incubation and the stress of shipping probably weakened its immune system enough to cause it to finally break with the disease. Perhaps higher titer/low passage vaccines would have helped, maybe not. Just that the puppy had clinical parvo 3 days after arrival, even in a rapidly developing case of 7 days, where was the puppy 7 days prior to being hospitalized? I will admit I am a breeder, however I do offer a replacement puppy guarntee but I also offer a 100% money back guarantee and I even include shipping charges, I even include that in my 2 year genetic guarantee. I have even given a 100% refund and payed to ship a puppy back because the people had trouble house training it, totally the fault of the new owners.

I also do health testing to make sure I am not sending them a breathing time bomb, OFA, vwd, and am working on CERF, use bloodlines that had sound parentage. I offer such a guarantee because of the health protocols and screenings that I use, I am confident nothing will happen and if it did I would feel awful and refund the money even if it wasnt anybody's fault. Maybe I have more compassion and perhaps I am a sucker, but if you could call it a business, business is very good.
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#19 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Get your facts straight!!!!

AUTHOR: P Jean - (U.S.A.)

Maybe you need to read!!!!! I do ship out of Springfield, Mo. but that certain time the puppy was shipped out of Kansas City, Mo. You are correct about Airbound Pets. They do a wonderful job at what they do!!!! I did not blame them but there are several breeders that ship with them and one of them could have sent a puppy that had Parvo. I was just saying that is where the puppy could have gotten sick and had gotten exposed to the virus.

Airbound Pets would not have known if all the puppies that are shipped are in good health. I am just saying that there was absolutely nothing wrong with my puppies when I ship them or I would not have shipped them. You as a PRO on what is going on,you should know that you cannot
ship a puppy without a Health Certificate. Since you live in this area and I am sure I know who you are and what you are trying to do because of your bad luck that you are having, are just trying to make my kennel like yours but it won't happen.

I have all the nice buildings that you wish you had and a nice place to live in , which you do not but maybe because of your bad attitude and jealousy of what others have you have a bad taste in your mouth and like to run it. I use VanGuard Plus 5 that is to protect the puppies from several virus as you should know if you are a breeder. Apparently, you have nothing better to do than to keep things stirred. Apparently , you are one of the breeders that would love to see my kennel go under, but it will not happen until I want to retire. Just remember what goes around comes around. So get a life or a job and try to leave hard working people alone. I had stated that I was not going to keep this ripoff going to please people like you but I wanted to make a statement that Airbound Pets do a wonderful job at what they do and I wanted to set the record straight!
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#20 Consumer Comment

SO.....WHICH AIRPORT WAS IT ANYWAY? CONFLICTING INFORMATION! TRIPPING OVER THEIR OWN LIES?

AUTHOR: Cat - (U.S.A.)

I have been reading all the reports and rebuttals that have been going back and forth and in doing so am picking out all the inconsistencies. This original report was filed against Paula Walters and Paula writes that this poor puppy's flight arrangements were handled by Airbound Pets, that this puppy was flown out of Kansas City on 1/18/2008. And then a few rebuttals later Paula (actually Christi wrote this one) says that the puppy was flown out of Springfield? So which airport was it shipped from? Can you remember? Did Ms. Simmons ship your puppy for you? Or did you take it to Springfield?

I have often wondered how you could advertise that you "do your own shipping" when I have personally seen your crates of puppies on the Airbound Pets trailer last fall, not to mention that everyone else sees you at the shippers establishment on Thursday afternoons/evenings!

Maybe the unfortunate owners of the dead puppy can tell us who actually shipped this puppy. I agree with Debbie, your lies are starting to circle back and catch you from the other side.

Please readers, do not misunderstand, I am not slamming Airbound Pets as they provide an excellent service! They are very good at what they do and keep the puppies in excellent care during the transport. They are not the problem.

I think everyone is starting to see just where the problem lies, no pun intended! Everyday there are more reports of sick puppies coming from Paula Walters and Christi Harmon. This should tell the public something, please use this website and do a search for Christi Harmon and Paula Walters.

Parvo can be very nearly prevented if you use the correct vaccines. These 2 women are kennel owners, they know what Neopar is! Neopar is an expensive Parvo vaccine that can be used at a young age in puppies because it is a high titer/ low passage vaccine that is not usually affected by maternal antibodies. I say it is expensive but it is not really, it costs $3.00 per puppy, compared to other vaccines that is "expensive". Please keep in mind that no vaccine is fool proof but this many cases of Parvo in any kennel is suspect! I think $3.00 would be worth more than a pound of cure.
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#21 Consumer Comment

You Can Not See or Smell Parvo!

AUTHOR: Steelers Rock In Pa - (U.S.A.)

This disease is diagnosed through a physical examination and a fecal Parvo test. Unless every single dog in your kennel, breeding facility had a physical examination and a fecal test done, you cannot say that your kennel is parvo free. Your daughter has my email address. Feel free to send me your reports and proof of your inspections and testing and I will be happy to post a rebuttal to this report.
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#22 Consumer Comment

Parvo has a 10-14 day incubation period

AUTHOR: Steelers Rock In Pa - (U.S.A.)

Just ask any vet. In other words, a puppy or dog will not show signs of the Parvo virus until 10 to 14 days after contact with the virus.

Also, incubation period for Kennel Cough is 5 to 14 days. In other words, a puppy or dog would not show signs of Kennel Cough until 5 to 14 days after contact.

A puppy or dog can not become infected with either Parvo or Kennel Cough in three days or less. The vacinations are not going to cause Parvo or Kennel Cough either.

Kennel Cough is normally not deadly. Parvo is a different story. "Normally puppies that win the battle with Parvo will develop immunity to it however others will contract it again. Some have said that puppies battling Parvo have a fifty-fifty chance of survival with aggressive supportive treatment. Regardless, 80% of puppies die without it.http://www.bigpawsonly.com/parvo-canine-parvovirus-health.htm" The aggressive supportive treatment is unbelievable expensive.
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#23 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Tried of the SLANDER!!

AUTHOR: P Jean - (U.S.A.)

I am here to tell anyone that wants to contact my Vet, just give me a call and I will be more than happy to give you his telephone number. He has been contacted and stated that he never said anything to either Lisa or Susan that I would have sent them a puppy with PARVO. He told me to actually tell them to get lost that I did not have time to deal with scammer people like them.
I have a copy of their vet's office that Lisa sent to me from her own vet that states " Puppies are extremely susceptible to virulent viruses such as parvo virus due to the fact that puppies have no protective/acquired immunity from vaccinations until about 16 wks. or older. The addition of other stressful conditions such as "separation from their littermates, vaccinations, and airplane travel" only serves to increase their chances of becoming sick after exposure."

The sisters are also saying that the puppy came to them deathly sick and smelled or foul odor and very dirty which a "great Lie" as Springfield, Mo. Airlines will tell you different.

They keep saying that I never returned their telephone calls or e-mails which is a lie. WHen they would call at all hours of the day and night it is pretty hard not to answer the phone because they do not have a life and all they have time to do is cause trouble. Apparently they are on WELFARE and don't work.
Lisa was sent a copy of the vet clinic's visit to my kennel and also a copy of the State of Missouri and State Inspector's visit to my kennel so she needs not to lie about it.
It makes them mad that I can prove that I don't have the virus here. The puppy was received and it was healthy. She received it on Friday and it was taken to the vet on Monday with "NO" problems but to get a puppy shot!!!!!!! Now on Tuesday night was taken in with problems. So why are they lying about that. Parvo can be contacted in 3 days in which she had it pass 3 days when the puppy came down with the virus.
Sorry about her puppy??? YES!!!!! But this was not my fault. She first wanted $650.00 and now she wants $1400.00. Wonder what she wants next?????

This will be the last that I will respond to this nonsense. I do have a life and a good business. If you need information and proof of what I am saying, I have the proof and would be more than happy to mail you a copy of the report.
I had never heard of this "RIPOFF" web site and I really think that this is for people who knows things about "ripping" off people. Lisa told me at one time that she was purchasing the puppy for her sister "Susan" and another time that "Susan" bought the puppy for Lisa's "SON". Which is it???? I know that both of you are breeders yourself so why are you denying it??'

I have never dealt with anyone as these two scammers and I hope that I never do again. I have been selling puppies for 3 years and apparently I have to have a customer to cause me trouble but I have nothing to hide so do what you want and bring on the FBI, Attorney General, Health Departments, Governments, Airlines, Etc., anything to make you happy because I will more than happy to let them come to my kennel and do what ever they want to.

Have a great life, first you need to get one, because I am through with all of this craziness. Maybe you need to start reading your BIBLE daily and you will learn a lot.
Paula Walters
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#24 Consumer Suggestion

Documentation

AUTHOR: Susan Williams - (U.S.A.)

We are not breeders. We are just normal people who wanted a puppy for our family. We have documentation to support our accusations.
We are trying to inform other buyers so that they don't have the same problem.
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#25 Consumer Comment

The William/Fischer sisters are Scammers

AUTHOR: Owner - (U.S.A.)

What these 2 lairs/scammers fail to meation is that they have tried to scam other breeders before in their little lies.

I have had 3 people just today contact me and tell me their stories of dealings with these so called sisters.

Man how many times are you going to try this?

If you dont have the money to get a puppy that you really shouldnt buy one in the 1st place.

These 2 people are breeders. Trying to bulid up their breeding stock with dogs/puppies that they claim got sick or died only to try and get the money back and keep the puppies.

So yes I would love for you to contact the FBI and anyone else


Please do you really think that people are that stupid?

When you are inspected by the state, akc and your Vet with no violations in 8 years do you really think that I have anything to hide?
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#26 Consumer Suggestion

We stand by our statements

AUTHOR: Susan Williams - (U.S.A.)

We have read the above reply to our accusations about Paula Walters and Christie Harmon. We stand by our original statements. Our banter back and forth with these people will only give them credilblity in their eyes. Let me just say that you need only research further online to see the scope of their fraud. We do not have "friends" writing about this- we have seen a groundswell of outrage from people all over the country who have had dealings with these people.
Thank you all for your support and advice, we will be taking your suggestions regarding the FBI and local police, as well as the other agencies. We will not rest until they stop this criminal operation.
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#27 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Very Reputable Breeder for years!!!!!

AUTHOR: P Jean - (U.S.A.)

First of all, I am sorry that Lisa's puppy got sick. The problem did not start in my kennel and I have proof of that. When I was contacted by Lisa I explained to her here that if I did have PARVO in my kennel that I would not have any puppies left because it is highly contagious and all of my puppies would have died with the virus also. The puppy left my premises on 1/17/08 and was shipped out of Kansas City, Mo. on 1/18/08. The puppy was not sick until 1/24/08 after it received a puppy shot on 1/22/08 and she was fine on 1/22/08. Parvo cas not in my care during that time. You can even come in contact with this virus by just walking on the ground where the virus is and you don't even know it.
It is sad for you to let one person write a review that is false and get by with it.

I can prove it to you with faxes from the Missouri State of Agriculture and the State Inspector and a Veterinarian Clinic's report to show my innocence in this problem. I contacted the state officials myself and had them come to my kennel and do an inspection. If I had the virus, do you think that I would contact the state and have them come to my kennel? Both officials stated when they entered my kennel that they knew that I did not have PARVO because you can smell it.

If you honestly think that I have PARVO in my kennel, how can I still have puppies to sell. Parvo would have wiped out my own kennel.
This is the report from Dr. Tracey Fahey, DVM,, this is her veterinarian.

Lisa's own vet's report stated "Puppies are extremely susceptible to virulent viruses such as parvo virus due to the fact that puppies have no protective/acquired immunity from vaccinations until about 16 wks. or older. The addition of other stressful conditions such as separation from their littermates, vaccinations, and airplane travel only serves to increase their chances of becoming sick after exposure."

I have been patient with this woman and I will pray for her but since I did not cause this problem she has to blame someone. She keeps wanting a puppy but she does not want to pay the shipping on it. All she wants is money. One time she wants $650.00 and then another lady named Susan writes and she want $1400.00. I don't think that they are too honest. This is extortion. She is telling that I offered her a CORGI . Why would I offer her a CORGI? If I would have caused this problem, I would have been more than happy to have worked with her but since it was not fault, I could not stay in the business doing things like give money away.

Even though she can have freedom of speech doesn't make her statements true. I have proof and if anyone would like a copy, I would be more than happy to send it to you. She has called me a lot of names and if that makes her feel better so be it.She also has other people writing reviews about me, but it will catch up with them and I will pray for her and myself that this too shall pass! She doesn't like for me to say spiritual things about our situation but that is just the way that I am.

The puppy left my kennel on 1/17/08 and was transported with Airbound Pets Transportation and flew out of Kansas City, Mo. on 1/18/08. Parvo can be shed after 3 days of being exposed to the virus and the puppy was fine when she took it to Dr. Fahey to get another puppy shot on 1/22/08 which at that time was away from my kennel 5 days.

On 1/24/08 they took it back to the vet with all of the symptoms of Parvo. It was tested for PARVO after it just had a shot on 1/22/08 which would show PARVO because it was a parvo shot. Of course it would show positive because it had been injected with the PARVO vaccine. Any licensed vet would know that. There was no autopsy performed on the puppy to even prove that it was the cause of death.

When does freedom of speech become more powerful than the truth? I am sorry that the lady lost her puppy but it was "no" fault of mine and I have proved it over and over and over. She has several friends that are writing
I am faxing to your company one more time the papers and reports from state officials and if you will not accept them as proof there is nothing else that I can do. Some people just live to cause other people trouble and show themselves above others.

If you are reading this and are considering purchasing a puppy from me, do not let this lady fool you. I have lots of customers that I can give you to give you a referral about me and my business and their puppy that they purchased from me.
Paula
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#28 Consumer Comment

Nothing but Great puppies.... Call and Verify

AUTHOR: Owner - (U.S.A.)

All I have to say is Debbie is nothing but a big fat lair.
She has tried for months now to try and make every pet breeder look bad it seems like. but it hasnt nor will it ever work

When you have the state and a Vet to back up that all her statements are fake than there isnt much she can do

Really need to see a head doctor and get some help

I feel so sorry for her dog
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#29 Consumer Comment

Paula Walters and Christi Harmon are Heartless

AUTHOR: Steelers Rock In Pa - (U.S.A.)

This is Debbie from Pittsburgh. I will file an update on my own report but I did want to respond to this report. I would bet that Paula did not write these rebuttals but Christi did. Same language and spelling. Please do file reports with the Attorney General's Office of MO and of your state. The AKC will only inspect when they receive numerous complaints about a breeder so to say that she has been inspected by the AKC should tell you something.

Also, please contact the Health Department as suggested above. I also filed a police report because of threats made by Cody Harmon. Good advise to file a police report for interstate fraud and ask them to report to the FBI. I will ask my local police, who have all the information, to do just that immediately. All bad reviews left on puppyfind.com are removed by Christi Harmon and/or Paula Walters. If you leave a bad report and they remove it, contact puppyfind and give them your back up and the report will go back on. Unfortunately puppyfind cannot verify all the good reports, even those written by Christi and Paula for themselves or each oher.

This family of puppy mill breeders must be stopped. I will be updating my report in a few days. My attorney is responding to the Missouri Attorney Generals Office.

A friend of mine has a Westie named Ozzie and I just love him to pieces. My heart aches for what you have gone through. That is the reason I started the ripoffreport on Christi Harmon. As long as these websites permit her and her mother to advertise, those who have been hurt by them must continue doing what we can and try to alert unsuspecting consumers about them. My heart just aches every time I hear of or talk to someone else who has been hurt by Christi Harmon or Paula Walters. Dogs, puppies and people should not be treated with such disregard.
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#30 Consumer Suggestion

Get a lawyer and contact the FBI

AUTHOR: J.m. - (U.S.A.)

You can file a police report in your state and they will forward this onto the FBI as it is interstate commerce fraud. Second, get a lawyer pronto. You can also contact the AKC and other Kennel clubs that mandate breeders in order to halt them from getting papers for their dogs. Just explain that your dogs were seriously ill on arrival and that the breeder has been very unruly. I personally would point them to her response here on Rip-Off.com as she seems to have quite the verbado. No less, I am sure her verbado will not get her far with the federal authorities if they begin investigating her. Another thing you may want to do is contact that State's Attorney wherever she is located and have explain to them what she's operating. Not to mention the last post from the Health Department in Missouri.

I think given her post was IMMEDIATELY hostile, she wants to be busted for trafficking ill dogs. That is not for you to surmise but just report to as many agencies as possible and Miss Verbado will turn into Inmate #???????? for fraudulently selling sick animals to the public. Also another note, there is probably a federal agency that mandates the sale of animals across state lines, you may want to check into it and see where you can report.

Cheers and good luck!
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#31 Consumer Comment

Yes please call the state and find out what kind of good people these people are

AUTHOR: Owner - (U.S.A.)

Yes please do call the state and find out what kind of people/breeders that you are trying to slander

I know that I have passed with flying colors 100% both inspections that I get

I have nothing to hide and can proof any and claims are false.

I can also fax any documents to prove the these people are Jelous and Envy

It is so sad that people are mean and can be such lairs

Maybe one day you will see the light and get a life
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#32 Consumer Suggestion

***update***please call and share you experience!!!Double C ranch, ChristisPuppies, CodyChristi, Harmon Kennels, PaulasPuppies

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

Please call this office to report your puppies experience, Christi Harmons kennels are harboring contagious and infectious diseases. Mange in human form is Scabies and is a reportable comminucable disease. It should not be transported across the country.

Barbara Owen, ES
Communicable Disease Coordinator
Jo Ann Rudroff, HPR
Central District Health Office
930 Wildwood Drive, P.O. Box 570
Jefferson City, MO 65102-0570
573/751-6113
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#33 Consumer Comment

Response to Paula Walters Rebuttal

AUTHOR: Susan Williams - (U.S.A.)

I am Lisa Fischer's sister. I have also been communicating back and forth with Paula in the past couple of months, so I feel the need to respond to her rebuttal.

My sister bought the precious little Westie puppy from Paula. I was there in the vet's office when that little guy lay dying of the Parvo virus- hooked up to an IV and tranquilized to relieve the pain. Paula Walters would not answer our calls or e-mails. She denied any responsibility, offered no refund or replacement , although she did say "sorry about your little puppy".

When we realized that she wasn't interested in helping us, we decided that we would try to stop this from happening to the next person. We complained to various websites- trying to get the word out to others.

Paula's reaction was to get nasty with us. She has played many games with our emotions, pretending to send a refund in an empty envelope, promising to send (non-existent) inspection reports, threatening legal action, etc.

All we ever wanted was a healthy dog.

We believe she breeds or brokers these dogs without proper regard for their immunizations, true lineage, even cleanliness. (our dog came very dirty and foul smelling). She has continually told untruths to avoid having to admit her deceit. Her recent rebuttal to Lisa's complaint proves that she is a desperate women who is afraid of getting caught at her game.

She says her kennels were inspected properly. She has claimed that a "visual " inspection has been done to determine whether or not her kennel is harboring the Parvo virus. Any educated person will tell you that the presence of a virus cannot be determined visually. We have been in contact with her local veterinarian. He agrees that due to the incubation period and the short duration of time that we had him, Paula must have shipped our dog with the Parvo virus. All of our claims have been documented by our own veterinarians.

Please search the web for other innocent victims of this woman. There are countless horror stories out there just like ours and worse. She may be working in conjunction with her daughter Christi Harmon, owner of CC Harmon Ranch, also of Lebanon, MO. Christi Harmon also has many of the same complaints about her treatment of animals and her business practices.

Paula Walters has cost puppy owners thousands and thousands of dollars in vet bills as well as emotional heartache. She should never, ever be able to sell and transport these innocent little animals the way that she has. We are trying our best to notify the proper authorities such as the Missouri Humane Society and the ASPCA so that her kennels are determined to be safe for all her animals and are operating properly.

Sincerely,
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#34 Consumer Comment

Got the Wrong kennel lady ...Just because I am in Missouri doesnt mean anything

AUTHOR: Owner - (U.S.A.)

It is so sad that just because some people have nothing better to do than sit around on their fat butts and write comments all day long over pure Jelousy!

I would love for the president of the US to come to my place and see my dogs and set up. I have nothing to hide at all.

We are memebers of USDA, Missouri State Ag, QSBA, MPBA, and PPA
We were just inspected by AKC
Passsed with flying colors

Matter of fact they will use our place as an example of a setup for large breed dogs. So you can take that to the bank TM

I would be glad to say that it is nicer than your house.

You really need to get alife and grow up

You are not hurting me at all nor will you.
Everyone that has seen this has 1 either asked me about this or called my vet to verify that all these statemenets are flase and untrue

We have been in business for 8 years now and I am not going anywhere sweetheart.

Good Luck
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#35 Consumer Suggestion

*****Enough is Enough**Christispuppies, Christi Harmon, Double C ranch, Harmon Kennels, CodyChristi and PaulasPuppies

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

This breeder is knowingly selling and sending diseased and sick puppies on flights all around the country. This is putting countless other animals and thier families at risk. It is irresponsable, heartless and strictly for her own monitary gain.Please call and file compalints with...
The Laclede County Health Department
Address: 230 Chestnut
Lebanon, MO 65536
Hotline: 417-532-2134

and also..
The Missouri Humane Department

http://www.hsmo.org/m_animalabuse/reportabuse.php

Something is wrong!! How can these puppies recieve health certificates time and time again?. And how is it that so many families are being faced with contagious and sometimes deadly diseases after purchasing from a licensed and "responsible" breeder??? Just posting complaints isn't stopping her. Christi Harmon will continue to sell sick, malnutritioned, diseased and inferior puppies for outrageous amount of money until she is stopped. And people will keep turning thier shoulders, because it's a "dirty little secret" in Missouri, (Too many people profit from puppymills-)until enough complaints are made and enough voices are heard.
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