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  • Submitted: Mon, September 10, 2007
  • Updated: Wed, December 14, 2011

  • Reported By:sturgeon bay Wisconsin
Pc Pro Schools
707 N 4th Ave Sturgeon Bay Wis 54235 Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin U.S.A.

Pc Pro Schools Falsified Salary and job market potential to promote school. Sturgeon Bay Wisconsin

*Consumer Comment: just read this...

*UPDATE Employee: Rip Off???

*General Comment: In Response:

*Consumer Comment: Currently Enrolled in PCProSchools, I know the person took back his comment but I still would like to reply

*Consumer Comment: I agree

*Consumer Comment: Chaz, who told you to write that?

*Consumer Suggestion: Pc Pro Schools did not falsify salary claims or potential job market in Green Bay to promote school

*Author of original report: PC PRO SCHOOLS DID NOT FALSIFY SALARY CLAIMS OR POTENTIAL JOB MARKET IN GREEN BAY TO PROMOTE THE SCHOOL

*Consumer Suggestion: PC PRO SCHOOLS DID NOT FALSIFY SALARY CLAIMS OR POTENTIAL

*Consumer Comment: Poor Chaz

*Consumer Comment: Poor Chaz

*Consumer Comment: Poor Chaz

*Consumer Comment: Poor Chaz

*Consumer Suggestion: Chaz, looks like you not the only one out there.

*Consumer Comment: Caveat emptor is Latin for "Let the buyer beware".

*Author of original report: Retraction and apology for statements made about Pc Pro Schools

*Consumer Comment: BE HAPPY YOU DID NOT GO TO ITT TECH

*Consumer Suggestion: No One Walks into a High paying job without experience

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Please read this don't let your children get scammed by marketing hype!!!! I am writing against the School. Pc Pro School or AKA Pc Productivity. I here these radio adds and almost want to throw up on the lies that are being produced. The school is a fraud. First they market on the radio that their are jobs in the field for $50,000.00 after a few years and that you can better your life. Here is the truth, I went to this school for six months. When I started I was told that they had contracts with employers for jobs and at the end of our schooling these so called employers would come in and most of us would get a job. The truth, only two companies came in Tek systems offering 11.00 to 13.00 an hour temp jobs in the help desk field. A far cry from the Network administration job that I was told about through the radio and through their campus coordinators.
the other company was a temp job that they only had one position for a 3 month contract. Not to mention the fact that our so called career adviser quit the day before we graduated. We found that out down the road probably couldn't live with herself seeing 30 students getting railroaded. The next scam is that they list the people who landed jobs but what they don't tell you is that these people are working for the school. kinda funny, If you went to this school you can pick them out. Here is what you will learn go to Barnes and Noble pick up Microsoft books for about $300.00 and read them and do the study books and save yourself the 23,700.00. You'll then have more of a chance getting a job in the help desk field than you do by going to this school! From their reputation of course. I applied to Tek Systems and was told by the women doing my interview that my Microsoft Certification was useless, She said anyone can take a test was her response. She also said she gets that response from all pc pro school students. My response my 24,000.00 for 11.00 an hour.This was followed by the last 13 interviews that I had. The truth is I have no IT Job. As followed by everyone I talk to in my class. They pump you up on networking but train you for help desk as was my shock 2/3 through this school. Save yourself the embarrassment and go to an accredited school. Tech school or ITT or College.

Chaz
sturgeon bay, Wisconsin
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 09/10/2007 04:53 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Pc-Pro-Schools/Sturgeon-Bay-Wisconsin-54235/Pc-Pro-Schools-Falsified-Salary-and-job-market-potential-to-promote-school-Sturgeon-Bay-W-273728. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

just read this...

AUTHOR: ifixalot - (United States of America)

I worked hard and built my own IT shop.

Now the owner of Computer Science and Service for over 10 years and doing about 1.5 to 2 million per year. I took the Pre-test for PC Pro Schools and failed miserably.

So the question is why. Allow me to explain. PC Pro Schools IS NOT A SCHOOL!

It is a FOR profit Corporation. Nuff said.

If you listen to their advertisements you will hear we PREPAIR you to become Microsoft certified you can do this on your own, with out PC Pro Schools.

Also, any thing you learn is useless and even if it is useful it will be outdated before you are even done.

So yes, it is shit, a rip off. No question about it.

In closing, if you would like to set up your moms email account or set a home page, then be a dumb @ss and pay for useless crap. Also if that is the case, you should not be in the IT field AT ALL.

Use your f*cking head. Dont be a dumb @ss and dont get ripped off.

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#2 UPDATE Employee

Rip Off???

AUTHOR: Dan - (United States of America)

The school is what it states. Sure, you'll most likely end up a help desk person after graduating, but most IT professionals start there. The $50,000.00 a year that has been mentioned comes with experience, never does an IT person start out at $50,000.00, ever. if you do, you are no longer simple IT person, you have a higher title. Use what you get with your experience and knowledge after Pcpro Schools to get yourself somewhere.
 
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#3 General Comment

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AUTHOR: Sarah - (USA)

Well, I appreciate all of the comments and they have helped me to decide not to pursue education through this company. I'll stick to a real school and a real education and not the "fast cash" route to riches which everyone agrees is non-existent. And to the OP, opinions are opinions, says right in the guidelines for posting, so if you're being forced to retract comments, they're just using scare-tactics. Either that or they gave you a job to hush you up lol.
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#4 Consumer Comment

Currently Enrolled in PCProSchools, I know the person took back his comment but I still would like to reply

AUTHOR: Currentstudent - (U.S.A.)

I currently went through the process of deciding if I was going to go to PC Pro Schools. My job is not very stable at the moment, and I knew if I was going to lose my current job I wanted to get back into computers, something I haven't done for 8 years professionally. I hear the commercials all the time for PC Pro, and I know a person starting isn't going to make that income. I went into my initial meeting at PC Pro knowing they are a business trying to sell me. During that Saturday presentation they went into potential income, and actual average starting income. They said the average starting salary is between 26k-41k a year. They stressed they cannot legally promise us a high wage because our wage and our employment depends on us in the end.

They stressed they only supply the tools to get us through the 6 month program and help as much as they can to make sure we pass the tests. PC Pro Schools will not give a person a job, they give opportunities to get employment, and experience, that's it. The end result is our own responsibility. After reading rip-off report and better business bureau information about PCPro, I decided to sign up anyways because I know no school is perfect, and I know there are going to be a handful of people who weren't satisfied with the results, it happens in every situation. Here's what I look at. Considering PC Proschools has maybe 300-400 students a year possibly many more, and there are only 2-3 reports here, and the BBB gives them a high score, I'm confident PCPro Schools is in fact a good place to get the computer certifications that are not offered at the local tech school (trust me I would have preferred MATC or WCTC, but they just weren't an option since programs weren't offered).

I am confident of my ability to get a good job when I finish here, I have past computer experience, and I've been the co-owner of a manufacturing company the past 10 years. If I fail, it's not PC Pros fault, it's my fault.
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#5 Consumer Comment

I agree

AUTHOR: Ben87 - (U.S.A.)

Really, this is not a school. It is a business, which happens to be a "school", and their goal, is not necessarily to help you, but to make a profit. Sure, it looks good for them if you pass the test and get certified, but if you don't, they'll just say you didn't try hard enough, that you didn't put in your best effort, putting all the blame on you and leaving them unaffected. Don't let the ".edu" fool you.
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#6 Consumer Comment

Chaz, who told you to write that?

AUTHOR: Bb84 - (U.S.A.)

I noticed how you retracted ALL of your statements. Sounds like someone threatened you.

But thanks to everyone's concerns, I now know I cannot "afford" to go to that school, although they make it sound great.

Also, Chaz, if you were threatened by any of the schools legal advisors, don't worry. You won't get into trouble if the info you posted was an opinion. If everyone sued everyone else for stuff posted on the net, there would be no more sites like this.
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#7 Consumer Suggestion

Pc Pro Schools did not falsify salary claims or potential job market in Green Bay to promote school

AUTHOR: Chaz911 - (U.S.A.)

By way of this post, I am withdrawing ALL of my previous comments regarding PC Pro Schools. My comments came from frustration, as I had hoped I could begin a new career with more than an entry level IT position. My expectations were probably too high and I took it out on PC Pro Schools. I am not giving up my search, but want anyone
who reads my original post to kindly disregard it.


Chaz
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#8 Author of original report

PC PRO SCHOOLS DID NOT FALSIFY SALARY CLAIMS OR POTENTIAL JOB MARKET IN GREEN BAY TO PROMOTE THE SCHOOL

AUTHOR: Chaz911 - (U.S.A.)

By way of this post, I am withdrawing ALL of my previous comments
regarding PC Pro Schools. My comments came from frustration, as I
had hoped I could begin a new career with more than an entry level
IT position. My expectations were probably too high and I took it out
on PC Pro Schools. I am not giving up my search, but want anyone
who reads my original post to kindly disregard it.

Chaz
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#9 Consumer Suggestion

PC PRO SCHOOLS DID NOT FALSIFY SALARY CLAIMS OR POTENTIAL

AUTHOR: Chaz911 - (U.S.A.)

By way of this post, I am withdrawing ALL of my previous comments
regarding PC Pro Schools. My comments came from frustration, as I
had hoped I could begin a new career with more than an entry level
IT position. My expectations were probably too high and I took it out
on PC Pro Schools. I am not giving up my search, but want anyone
who reads my original post to kindly disregard it.
Chaz
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#10 Consumer Comment

Poor Chaz

AUTHOR: Mark - (U.S.A.)

Poor Chaz, sounds like PC Pro Schools' lawyers got to him. I have a simular story, and have filed with the BBB, comsumer protection and the education board. No one cares and some are unable to help. I have documentation of the lies, even emails and recordings from school employees and employment agencys. All I got was a letter from the schools lawyers telling me to shut up or else.
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#11 Consumer Comment

Poor Chaz

AUTHOR: Mark - (U.S.A.)

Poor Chaz, sounds like PC Pro Schools' lawyers got to him. I have a simular story, and have filed with the BBB, comsumer protection and the education board. No one cares and some are unable to help. I have documentation of the lies, even emails and recordings from school employees and employment agencys. All I got was a letter from the schools lawyers telling me to shut up or else.
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#12 Consumer Comment

Poor Chaz

AUTHOR: Mark - (U.S.A.)

Poor Chaz, sounds like PC Pro Schools' lawyers got to him. I have a simular story, and have filed with the BBB, comsumer protection and the education board. No one cares and some are unable to help. I have documentation of the lies, even emails and recordings from school employees and employment agencys. All I got was a letter from the schools lawyers telling me to shut up or else.
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#13 Consumer Comment

Poor Chaz

AUTHOR: Mark - (U.S.A.)

Poor Chaz, sounds like PC Pro Schools' lawyers got to him. I have a simular story, and have filed with the BBB, comsumer protection and the education board. No one cares and some are unable to help. I have documentation of the lies, even emails and recordings from school employees and employment agencys. All I got was a letter from the schools lawyers telling me to shut up or else.
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#14 Consumer Suggestion

Chaz, looks like you not the only one out there.

AUTHOR: Xymox - (U.S.A.)

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/310/RipOff0310700.htm
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#15 Consumer Comment

Caveat emptor is Latin for "Let the buyer beware".

AUTHOR: Xymox - (U.S.A.)

Chaz, Sorry to hear about your troubles in finding a job in the niche that you originally set out to do. You are correct in your statement that you could have gone to Barnes and Noble and got a certification course from MicroSoft, to the tune of $27,000 cheaper. Like me, those in the 'know" generally laugh when we hear those radio adverts promising free cheese pizza and and one lucky winner to tote away an x-box.

The truth of the matter is, The education is not worthless, but grossly overpriced.
By about a multiple of about 55. Do the math. Hiring managers I have talked to in the IT field (10 years experience) generally chuccle when they hear "pc-productivity" in this area. They know what they are peddeling, Allot of debt and no marketable skills to speak of. Help desk? I dont think anyone needs to pay for those qualifications.

I'm also willing to bet that the same people marketing the product also have a connection to the lending institution that all-to-easilly approves your education loan. Wink wink nudge nudge, kickbacks anyone? ;) I'd be willing to bet that the interest rates on these pc-pro schools in the wisconsin area are higher than regular education loans. Predatory lending techniquese anyone?
I liken these people to cheap car salesmen and I hope anyone who reads this thinks not twice, but about 27000 times.

I paid about 60000 for my education , but that included room and board, good times, women, and wiskey for 4 years, and of course an education that was actually worth something.

Blaze your own path and be the better man!

Caveat emptor.
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#16 Author of original report

Retraction and apology for statements made about Pc Pro Schools

AUTHOR: Chaz - (U.S.A.)

Everyone reading this report. It has been found that two of my statements in my report are not fact. Therefore I am retracting and humbly apologizing to Pc Pro Schools for these two statements. And they should be withdrawn from the report.

1)We found that out down the road probably couldn't live with herself seeing 30 students getting railroaded.

2)The next scam is that they list the people who landed jobs but what they don't tell you is that these people are working for the school. kinda funny, If you went to this school you can pick them out.

I would also like to add "in my opinion" that the education that the school provides is FIRST RATE! You will learn what they say you will and be able to perform it!!
The report that I made "in my opinion" is with the Admissions dept and Marketing
In my opinion It is big steps to see problems and to correct them for we are all humans with errors.

I would also like to Add that my report was my opinion of what I experienced and should be viewed as such. "In my opinion" no one can make a sound decision off of one report. Good judgment must be taken and all views explored when attending any school. I am not responsible for any such decisions that anyone makes in either attending Pc Pro Schools or not.

Once again I stand corrected and retract the statements mentioned above and humbly apologize to Pc Pro Schools.

Chaz
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#17 Consumer Comment

BE HAPPY YOU DID NOT GO TO ITT TECH

AUTHOR: Margaret - (U.S.A.)

ITT Tech is not a real school, its a 100% rip off so be happy you did not go to school there. Perhaps you will have to relocate to find the work you are looking for. If you are not interested in working a help desk, then don't, I wouldn't either.
If you can take additional classes in community college, you will be better off and utilize the college placement office to the fullest.
As for the other comment, no, usually people with no experience do not walk in on a high paying job, but if this guy trained for other competencies, not just answering a telephone, he should be able to secure something that he has more of an interest in.
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#18 Consumer Suggestion

No One Walks into a High paying job without experience

AUTHOR: Steven - (U.S.A.)

Sorry you feel ripped off. You are correct that you may have been better off going to ITT tech or college.

The fact of the matter is no one is going to pay someone with no experience 50k a year. It is great that you have the MCSE you should hold on to it and take that 11 to 13 dollar an hour job on the helpdesk. While you are there get to know the networking folks or the System Administrator at the company. Work with him/her and see if the can get you some hands on with the server or network. Maybe work on a trouble call with them and see what they do and let them see what you can do. Alot of companies like to hire within and are glad to work with anyone that shows a positive attitude toward learning and professional and self growth. Maybe take some more classes and add a CCNA or Comptia A+ or Network + and Network security. Technology is always changing. By combining training and experience you will become a more rounded employee and someone that potential employers look forward to hiring.

Keep your eye out for any postings inside your company or even on the newpapers. If you have to leave to make your dreams come true then do so. When you leave update your resume with your new experiences with the helpdesk and network administration. You will eventually land the job you are looking for and maybe more.

Good luck on your job search.
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