- Report: #372322
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Complaint Review: Pinnacle Security Systems And General Electric
Pinnacle Security Systems And General Electric5200 N Sam Houston Pkwy W, Houston , Utah U.S.A.
Pinnacle Security Systems And General Electric pinnacle security and GE is a scam,please read, new employees beware Utah
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When I arrived for the interview (for those who have already been to the interview, please read and most of what I say will sound very familiar) I was noticed about 20 other applicants, dressed for a very professional job, and felt very under dressed. But despite my appearance I was greeted by the manager who immediately asked me if I had any felonies or drug issues, 'I said no, and was grateful he asked because it showed that they were professional . we then headed off to through the company and was shown the standard work place (offices and managers dressed very professional) he then said 'at pinnacle we work hard BUT! We also play hard, come with me)
As we proceeded towards the back I was blown away at what I saw.
POOL TABLES, 6 45 INCH PLASMA SCREENS, AIR HOCKY, AND A FULL BASKET BALL COURT.
The gentleman then sat me down in front of a 100 inch plasma screen and I watched an impressive video showing a bunch of collage guys driving assume cars and promising that if you work hard you can easily make 500 to 1500 a day, simply by going door to door ('not selling but promoting'') and so on. The video was impressive but raised a red flag not from the door to door pitch but the fun, bling bling collage life they presented.
I was then taken to his office and he asked me what I thought about a job here, and I told him my concerns about me having 6 mouths to feed and am not a collage kid who has their parents to rebound on. He then told me how great the pay is here all kinds of bull sh*t promises. ' I wasn't buying it, especially the fact that he was tried to convince me to work for him when I hadn't even presented my resume, usually I would have to convince him to hire me.
He then told me 'I don't usually do this but I am going to let you talk to the owner ' so the 'owner'' came in very direct and told me if I was a hard worker and did everything they told me I would make 100,000 dollar this year. This guy was an excellent talker and very easily convinced me to work for him, but before I excepted the job I asked him how the pay was and how it worked through commission. And this is what he said.
'you will make 300.00 your first 3 sales, after that you will receive 500.00 on every sale
I asked him if any percentage of this is rewarded to managers or the company.
He said very clearly and direct, there are no hidden fees, the managers who work with you through your training are paid buy salary and DO NOT I REPEAT DO NOT receive commission off of your commission, and you also receive 200.00 for training. Simply sale a job and we pay you 500.00 dollars.
Man I was excited and was thrown 30 page to sign, I started reading and skimming the pages which was your standard forms by the state and others by the company, when all of the sudden 6 managers showed up and told me the training classes have started and I needed to hurry up with the forms, I then signed them (without reading) and went to training.
In training I was handed a pitch and told to read and memorize it.
Hello there, don't worry I'm not here to sell anything, my name is --------------and I am with pinnacle and GE, you are familiar with GE right, great that is exactly what we are looking for. What GE is doing is investing some money in your neighborhood buy choosing a few sponsor homes to install new GE technology and your home is exactly what we are looking for and blahh blahh blahh!
I took this job very seriously like I do everything and did everything they told me to do, and went out and worked my but off and sold six jobs in two days on my own time (because they screwed around so much that even though I was there from 9 a.m. to 11 p.m. we only worked for 3 to 3 hours a day, the rest of the time we played game or had inspirational speakers tell us every day how lucky we were and that so and so had just made 27000.00 dollars this month, and not to mention that being there was a must or you were fired.) This is great I thought, this is a cake job and am going to make a lot of money 'so I thought''
Well I seriously could go on and on how they throw all these promises in your face 24/7 (basically brain wash you) and make you feel like you are doing a good thing for your life, oh not to mention how they try to convince you to quit school because it's pointless since you would be making so much money.
Well here is what I ended up getting paid, and don't forget I filled 1099 witch means I was self employed and no taxes would be withheld.
FOR TRAINING I WAS PROMISED 200.00 AND RECEIVED 152.48
FOR MY FIRST THREE SALES I WAS PROMISED 300.00 FOR EACH SALE AND RECIVED 42.00
FOR LAST THREE JOBS I WAS PROMISSED 500.00 FOR EACH SALE I RECEIVED 100.00
HOURS WORKED = 132 HOURS
It turns out that you pay the managers a commission fee and get this the promotion package that you present to the consumer well it is free to them but at your expense.
I can't stress this enough, if your thinking of working there DON'T they are very good at what they do and that is scamming people by bending the truth. They hire 20 people a weak every weak mainly because after two weeks the 'self contracting salesman'' figures out they have been had. And if you are considering to purchase this security system just remember that it is a good system and will protect your home and your family but there are others out there with the same technology that don't use people to make their profit. And if an 18 year old kid or a 40 year old man (mostly 18 years of age) comes to your door with this pitch please tell him to research his new job.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 09/12/2008 12:18 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Pinnacle-Security-Systems-And-General-Electric/Utah-84058/Pinnacle-Security-Systems-And-General-Electric-pinnacle-security-and-GE-is-a-scamplease-r-372322. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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