- Report: #280159
Complaint Review: Plan USA And Plan International
| Plan USA And Plan International 155 Plan Way
Warwick, Rhode Island U.S.A. |
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Plan USA And Plan International: Worthy Charitable Organizations - Or Total Scams? Child sponsorship, children, Third World Countries, charity Warwick Rhode Island
*General Comment: Happy with Plan USA
*Consumer Comment: Completely Satisfied
*Consumer Comment: Plan is Legitimate - I went to meet the children....
*General Comment: Child Sponsorship is not easy!
*General Comment: Child Sponsorship is not easy!
*Consumer Comment: Response to Comment #9 and #10 regarding "fake reviews"
*Consumer Comment: I love Plan USA
*General Comment: Agree with comment #9 Plan USA: Suspicious scam, likely fake positive reviews
*Consumer Comment: Plan USA: Suspicious scam, likely fake positive reviews
*Consumer Comment: AFFORD ALL LITERATURE/FOLDERS/ADS?
*Consumer Comment: Please give from a good place with no expectations
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: I am considering withdrawing my sponsorship too
*General Comment: this is a good charity
*Consumer Comment: According to the BBB, Plan USA is legitimate
*Consumer Suggestion: Resources for sponsors of Plan USA
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*Consumer Comment: Plan USA is a legitimate organization
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With the first child I sponsored, I also bought some clothes for her and her sisters and sent them to her through Plan International. Strangely, many months later, I had heard nothing back from Plan, or from the child, about receiving the clothes, so I called to find out what had happened.
It turned out that, although Plan had recorded in their files that they had received "a gift" from me to the child, no further information was available about the gift beyond that. Plan did not know whether or not the child had received the gifts; Plan had not recorded what the gifts were; and Plan had no idea whether the child had actually received the presents!
In fact, according to the woman I spoke with, Plan International did not even have paperwork regarding whether the gift ever left the Plan International headquarters in Rhode Island! And if the clothes had reached their destination in Asia, well, the country where the child lived was rife with corruption, or so the worker told me, and the presents could have been stolen there.
It sounded to me like Plan International ran on simply hideous business practices, since they did not bother to keep track of the gifts that the donors sent to their sponsored children after they arrived at the Plan office, but I let it go. I reasoned that the presents really could have been stolen once they reached the child's country.
A friend told me that her minister had once sponsored a girl for about ten years, though I don't know whether it was through Plan International or another charitable organization, and made a habit of sending the girl gifts. He later met her on a visit to her country, and found out that she had never, ever received any of them.
I also was sponsoring the other two children and after awhile was receiving yearly reports, and yearly photographs, of all three children.
One of the yearly update photos of another child, not the one I'd sent the gifts to, was very disturbing. The child had been dressed up and was wearing makeup. She was six years old, in makeup. She was also glaring at the camera with a look of pure hatred. I had to wonder just who exactly was acting as the Plan International photographer, or who was standing near the photographer as the picture was taken, and who the little girl was glaring at - and why. What would cause such hatred on a little six-year-old's face? I had to wonder what was going on. If a picture is worth a thousand words, that one certainly begged for an explanation.
The yearly reports on the children would not all arrive on a certain date; they came when they came. I received a report on one child that contained details about her - how she was doing in school, her favorite subject, what she did in her spare time, what the health status of her extended family was.
A few months later, an update came in the mail on another of the children I was sponsoring, and it sure looked familiar. I realized that it was, word-for-word, category by category, the same, exact, IDENTICAL report that I had already received on the first child!
To make matters even more interesting, the two children did not live in the same countries. Plan International representatives were supposed to be on-site in the various countries, writing the reports on the kids, but what I was receiving in the mail were two identical reports from two different Plan reps in two different countries. It seemed logical to conclude that the "reports" from the "Plan representatives" had been faked.
When I complained to Donor Relations over at Plan International, they began emailing me and asked if they could call me. I said no, don't call me, since I was at work, just email me. A few minutes after asking that they do not call me at work, the woman I had been corresponding with over email called me at work anyway, saying she knew I'd said don't call but she wanted to call me just the same. I thought that was probably as unprofessional as it could get, but it got worse.
That phone call with the Donor Relations woman was the most incredibly flat-out bizarre conversation I have ever had in my whole life, anywhere, with anybody. I reiterated to Ms. Donor Relations what I had already written via email: that I had received two identical "on-site reports" on two sponsored children living in two different countries and said that something really seemed to be wrong with this whole picture. The Donor Relations woman said, "Oh, that's the format. The format's a template. The reps work from a template of what to update about the children, and then they fill in the answers." I said then how come the answers are completely, word-for-word, identical on the two reports of the two kids in the two different countries? I asked, does the template provide the answers on the children's progress, too? The woman evaded my direct question with, "That's a template. The format is similar on both reports since our reps work from a template."
This went on seven or eight times. Why, I asked, also seven or eight times, are the answers about the two children in two different countries the same on both reports? Her reply? "The format is a template, see, let me explain to you what a template is. You don't seem to understand what a template is."
I said I work with forms all day long, and in my job I created templates, and the definition of a template is not what is in question here. The fact that the written reports on the two children were the exact same is what I am questioning.
Finally Ms. Donor Relations realized that I was not going to be put off by her misdirection about the template and finally she said the Plan International reps use the template forms and write the answers in, concerning each individual child. I said, for perhaps the ninth time, then why are the update answers on the two reports identical? And why was she giving me such endless double-talk instead of directly answering my direct question?
My boss was sitting there listening to all of this, and by that point he was splitting his sides laughing.
Well, the girl said, maybe there was some kind of a problem if the two reports were exactly alike. This I can believe, I said, since I'd found an article on the Internet by an investigative reporter that had accused Plan of some pretty strange tactics. The girl tried to convince me that the author of the article was "negative" and had some kind of a problem. Then, incredibly, once again Ms. Donor Relations began to backpedal - and began to define templates!
I brought up the child whose presents I'd sent had never arrived, and Ms. Donor Relations said, "Oh, we've sat her family down and told the family very firmly that you want more contact with them, so now the family will make more of an effort to communicate with you."
I said, "WHAT??! I have no issue with the letters I receive from the family. I have an issue with the fact that if a sponsor sends a child presents in care of the Plan International office, Plan can't figure out, and track, what happens to them after they arrive in Rhode Island. There was no need to sit the family down and tell them anything - my issue was never with them."
Well, said Ms. Donor Relations, we've told them to communicate with you better, and off she went on another tangent that was almost as good as the one concerning the definition of a template, saying the family now understands that I want to hear from them more, over and over. All I had wanted to do, I said, was find out if the kid got her presents - that was it - and I'd have had my answer about that if Plan International had bothered to keep track of the presents that come into their office, which has NOTHING WHATSOEVER to do with communications from the child's family. Since there was no way to track the presents beyond their coming through the door of Plan International, they could have wound up anywhere I said; they may never have left Rhode Island. And I am not the only sponsor who sends presents.
Ms. Donor Relations repeated that the child's family would be communicating with me better, since Plan had sat them down and asked them to!
At that point I said I wanted to withdraw my sponsorship of all three of the children, and it was due to the blatant fact that there was obviously something wrong, very wrong, seriously wrong, with the whole operation at Plan International.
After the tsunami happened in December 2005, I wrote to Plan International to inquire about one of the kids I had sponsored, who had lived in the area that was hit by the tsunami. To date, and this is October of 2007, I still have not received any reply whatsoever about her.
While I think it is a very decent thing to try to help and improve the lives of children in Third World countries, the donations of the sponsors need to be directed towards decent, well-run charitable organizations, not the Rhode Island debacle that is Plan International/Plan USA.
Peace
Brooklyn, New York
U.S.A.
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Search Tips#1 General Comment
Happy with Plan USA
AUTHOR: Rose - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 08, 2012
#2 Consumer Comment
Completely Satisfied
AUTHOR: satisfied - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, October 07, 2012
I have been very fortunite to be able to visit Thailand, Viet Nam, Peru and Ecuador to meet my sponsored children and to see the wonderful work that Plan is doing in all these countries. I saw the results of my donations with my own eyes. If you question whether this organization is legitmite, ask Plan to put you in touch with a donor who has actually visited these countries and they will reassure you as to the wonderful changes Plan has helped implemented.
#3 Consumer Comment
Plan is Legitimate - I went to meet the children....
AUTHOR: Aaron - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 03, 2012
The impact Plan USA had on this village was very real, and it was such an honor to be a part of it, and see the impact first hand.
#4 General Comment
Child Sponsorship is not easy!
AUTHOR: Mikey Mo - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 03, 2012
It's understandable why you would be upset that your gifts didn't arrive where they should have, and that Plan Rep conversation sounds like it was frustrating, but please remember why it's important that we give to NGO's like Plan in the first place. We should all have an appreciation for how difficult it is to coordinate communication between so many people, in such remote areas.
Having personally met people from the field, and people who're directly by Plan's work. I stay keep giving, give them the tools to break the cycle of poverty in these communities through education, so we don't need to ship gifts anymore.
Thank you to those who chimed in to defend Plan USA here.
-MM
#5 General Comment
Child Sponsorship is not easy!
AUTHOR: Mikey Mo - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 03, 2012
It's understandable why you would be upset that your gifts didn't arrive where they should have, and that Plan Rep conversation sounds like it was frustrating, but please remember why it's important that we give to NGO's like Plan in the first place. We should all have an appreciation for how difficult it is to coordinate communication between so many people, in such remote areas.
Having personally met people from the field, and people who're directly by Plan's work. I stay keep giving, give them the tools to break the cycle of poverty in these communities through education, so we don't need to ship gifts anymore.
Thank you to those who chimed in to defend Plan USA here.
-MM
#6 Consumer Comment
Response to Comment #9 and #10 regarding "fake reviews"
AUTHOR: htl2010 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 12, 2011
I am the author of comment #4 written on 01/28/2010. This is to affirm that I am NEITHER an employee of Plan USA NOR my comment #4 was a "fake review", as per your words.
I only told my own experience with Plan USA (having been a sponsor of several kids in Burkina Faso (one of the poorest countries in Africa for many years). I do not gain anything by posting my comments but it is up to you to believe me or not. That was why I posted the link to the BBB to show that Plan USA has met the 20 Standards for Charity Accountability (http://www.bbb.org/us/Charity-Standards/). In fact, Plan USA is the holder of the BBB Charity Seal.
In my opinion, the main factor to check before giving your hard-earned money to a charity is to do your own due diligence and make sure that the charity is legitimate. For me, one way to verify it is to check the Better Business Bureau (BBB). The most important factor is that the charity should not spend most of its budget on adminitrative expenses (salaries, fund raisings, admin. charges, ...) but instead the majority of the funds should profit the charitable cause in question. That is why, as far as I am concerned, the BBB Standards for Charity Accountibility are of premordial importance.
But in the end, it's your money, do with it as you please. I just don't want the kids that Plan USA is helping to be negatively affected by some people's bad experience with Plan USA because Plan USA is not a scam (according to the BBB).
If you do have bad experience with Plan USA (or any other companies, charitable or otherwise) and think that it tries to scam you, please report it to the BBB. They will investigate it and the results will help all of us.
If you still choose not to work with Plan USA, please give your money to other charitable organizations. Do not let one bad experience discourage you from helping others, especially small children in those forsaken countries. We are their only hope.
Regards,
HTL
#7 Consumer Comment
I love Plan USA
AUTHOR: CozyAndy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, December 12, 2011
#8 General Comment
Agree with comment #9 Plan USA: Suspicious scam, likely fake positive reviews
AUTHOR: Andrew - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 06, 2011
I asked to take a brochure back and reiterated that I wouldn't give unless I knew more about the organization and he said I couldn't have anything to take. He did give me a card with the URL of planusa.org/atlanta which redirects to the homepage. I also think it is strange that there were positive comments right after the posting as this is a common technique used by reputation management folks. They post fake positive reviews in the hopes that people will read two or three rebuttals and then dismiss the initial complaint.
Looking at the BBB report on finances:
http://www.bbb.org/charity-reviews/national/relief-and-development/plan-usa-in-warwick-ri-2809#charFinancial
Looks like the former CEO made close to 200k:
Although current CEO compensation is not available, compensation
for former CEO W. Ahuma Adodoadji was $198,918 for the fiscal year ended
June 30, 2010. Compensation includes annual salary and, if applicable,
benefit plans, expense accounts, and other allowances.
#9 Consumer Comment
Plan USA: Suspicious scam, likely fake positive reviews
AUTHOR: vkrn - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 21, 2011
I just had an encounter with Plan USA where, after work, I was accosted by an employee on a street corner to sponsor a child. He was very aggressive and used typical, obvious sales tactics to close the deal with me (shaking my hand, making eye contact from a distance and continuing that to draw me in, talking about how he wanted me to sponsor "Marisol", and thus using a specific child's name to engender pity). Out of politeness, I allowed him a few minutes of my time, but standing at that street corner, I felt I was being shaken down as though he was a panhandler.
I told him frankly that I preferred to research Plan USA online before deciding to sponsor a child, but that I would be more than happy to take his literature. He was quite against me both looking anything up online -- which is strange, in this Internet age -- and claimed that he was a "walking website." He also refused to give me any brochures about this child, citing understandable privacy reasons.
All told, my suspicions were definitely triggered by this pushy Plan USA hawker who certainly seemed more interested in locking down my money versus encouraging me to read about his organization on my own to make an educated decision.
#10 Consumer Comment
AFFORD ALL LITERATURE/FOLDERS/ADS?
AUTHOR: hoppy - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 18, 2011
Can anyone out there explain this to me? (i support Plan International Canada for about one year one child, and assume it is the same organization).
#11 Consumer Comment
Please give from a good place with no expectations
AUTHOR: keith - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, May 16, 2011
Maybe they will take my money and run to Vegas and bet on horses, but I choose to believe that a child will be helped. And I may never, ever know for sure in the way that we do day-to-day in our society. But I choose to believe that even if my child isn't getting the gifts, some child is. If there is a nefarious use of a blanket other than keeping someone warm, I don't know what that is. So if I send a blanket, and it gets stolen, then probably someone else who needed it is now keeping warm. That's ok too.
If what Plan USA says is really true, though, what a great thing to do for the world. Please remember that before you post something that paints alot of people in a certain way. I don't know them, but your post might dissuade people from helping children, and I know that is not what you want. You seem like a good person because you are trying to give. Maybe if you decide that it's ok not to know for sure and give up control of that, you'll be ok knowing you are doing good in the world either way.
#12 REBUTTAL Individual responds
I am considering withdrawing my sponsorship too
AUTHOR: May - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, May 03, 2011
#13 General Comment
this is a good charity
AUTHOR: pat - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 16, 2010
#14 Consumer Comment
According to the BBB, Plan USA is legitimate
AUTHOR: htl2010 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, January 28, 2010
Hi,
I have sponsored kids (and still am) for over 12 years through Plan USA.
According to the Better Business Bureau (BBB), Plan USA is legit and meets the 20 Standards for Charity Accountability.
Here's a link to the BBB's evaluation:
http://www.bbb.org/charity-reviews/national/child-sponsorship/plan-usa-in-warwick-ri-2809
If you're wondering what the "20 Standards for Charity Accountability" are, click on the link below:
http://www.bbb.org/us/Charity-Standards/
So don't let the original report scare you, please go ahead and help those kids. They need us!
By the way, it's always good practices to check out the charities you want to support by going to the BBB web site: www.bbb.org.
Regards,
HTL
#15 Consumer Suggestion
Resources for sponsors of Plan USA
AUTHOR: Plan USA - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, January 22, 2010
My name is Deb and I have been sponsoring a child for a number of years. I am sorry to learn of this sponsor's experience. By posting this comment I hope that people considering sponsorship will be able to access the information they need to be confident with their charitable giving.
You can learn about their child sponsorship program at:
http://www.planusa.org/learnmore
If you have questions or concerns their customer service number is: 1-800-556-7918
#16 Consumer Comment
plan usa
AUTHOR: vincent - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, January 18, 2010
#17 Consumer Comment
Plan USA is a legitimate organization
AUTHOR: Tiki - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, January 20, 2010

