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  • Submitted: Thu, August 30, 2012
  • Updated: Sun, December 09, 2012

  • Reported By: Russ — Greensburg Pennsylvania U.S.A.
Primo Vacations
Internet United States of America

Primo Vacations Primo Travel Another Fred Siller Ripoff - Internet

*Author of original report: Fred Siller Arrested

*Author of original report: Lorena Siller and Fred Siller - Liars Also

*Consumer Comment: Stupid

*Author of original report: Thief

*Consumer Comment: You're getting more crazy and stupid with each comment

*Author of original report: Who's Stupid Lorena Ortiz Siller?

*Consumer Comment: You have no clue how stupid you're making yourself sound do you?

*Author of original report: Lorena Siller and Fred Siller - Thieves Anyway You Slice It.

*Consumer Comment: Really?

*Author of original report: Why so anonymous? Not much of a disguise Lorena.

*General Comment: How Dare you!

*Author of original report: Lorena Siller Now Calls Herself Lucy Owens

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Your crude response speaks for itself. My surgery is factual, and you are now the liar.

*Author of original report: Correction: Lorena Siller Now Calls Herself Lucy Owens

*Author of original report: Lorena Siller Now Calls Herself Lucy Ownes

*Author of original report: Primo Vacations Primo Travel Lorena Siller (Phony Illness) Fred Siller

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Hello Mr. Saupe, From Mrs. Siller

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Every couple months Fred Siller renames himself or his business in hopes of staying one step ahead of the law and people who are wise to him.   I am wise to him.   He has a history of ripping people off on the internet.    If it's not a pyramid scheme like Hand of Heaven, or Cruise2Cash or Roadmap to Riches, or Frelo Latin Wear (his phony latin clothing or most recently the New Life Medical Tourism Group.  

When he's not ripping people off on the internet he likes to ripoff unsuspecting condo owners for free lodging.   He and his stepson Zack Burns absolutely trashed a condo they were staying in in Fort Pierce in 2010.  It belonged to Michael Cunningham of West Palm Beach.   He had to be kicked out of my condo (also in Fort Pierce) on his HONEYMOON in 2010 for falling behind on his rent 

He and his wonderful wife Lorena have been exposed naked here on the internet on every scam and now it looks like Fred has tied in here with Rob Hannley of Primo Vacations. [continued below]....
.....  Maybe Rob is as big a scam artist as Fred, maybe he's not.   But the world (and Mr Hannley) needs to know what Fred Siller is like.   He can run but he can't hide.     He can change his name or rename his business but I'll find him out.    As I've said before about Fred Siller, send him (or his associates) money and you will never see it again.

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#1 Author of original report

Fred Siller Arrested

AUTHOR: Russ - ()

Tell me Lorena honey, when Freddie was arrested on August 5, 2010 he was your fiance at the time.

This was some 2 weeks before you spent your honeymoon at my place.   Was just curious what the charges were?    Please enlighten us......or is this just more lies and inuendo which slander the man you love?     Just copy and paste this arrest report into your browser:

http://www.whosarrested.com/florida/miami-dade-county/miami/tgkcc/135725-federick-wayne-siller
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#2 Author of original report

Lorena Siller and Fred Siller - Liars Also

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

The eviction orders (three of them) don't lie.     You 2 don't have 2 nickels to rub together except when you rip someone off.    The hundreds of complaints about Lorena and Fred Siller here and other places on the internet also don't lie.     How is the Medical Tourism business Lorena?    How is the Latin Clothing business Lorena?     How profitable have your other scams been lately Lorena?   Tell us about your friends from Anonymous, USA and Canyon Country, CA that are so eager to stick up for you.  Why don't you get Friendly Freddie on here so that he can tell us about his imaginary business partners?  Tell us how you are helping people in need, scumbag Lorena.   
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#3 Consumer Comment

Stupid

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

I'm not lorena, and you keep suggesting I am, and that makes you stupid. Stupid people do stupid things... Like make the same stupid report to "remind people" to avoid them... And sense no one would ever even talk to you, does that make you a thief?
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#4 Author of original report

Thief

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

You are not anonymous, you are Lorena.   Lorena is a thief, therefore you are a thief.    Do you really think any of us believe that someone would stick up for a couple of low-life con-artists?    
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#5 Consumer Comment

You're getting more crazy and stupid with each comment

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

I can't answer any of those ridiculous questions, because for the last time, I'm not Lorena you stalker. It seems like all you do is follow what this couple does you psycho... And I don't need to spell check because I don't care about what you think of me... Honestly... You should go do something productive in your miserable, lonely life, instead of basement dwelling,.. Maybe find a woman who is into your patheticness...
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#6 Author of original report

Who's Stupid Lorena Ortiz Siller?

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)





Oh, poor Lorena, I feel you are having another one of your conniptions.  Like the time last

Christmas when you had a hating comment writer on your New Life Medical Tourism blog and you told everyone that he was obviously on oxycontin and the one guy chimed in that if you can make such a diagnosis from afar your medical expertise must be quite advanced.    That comment is still there!   Ha

Ha!   Even the bloggers can see you for the phonies that you are. How is the Medical Tourism business these days?  About as good as the Latin Clothing business I'll bet.  Does Freddie know about your

silly futile attempts at sounding legitimate here?



 It sounds as if you and Freddie might be having some financial troubles.  Perhaps you should attend one of those Coping With Change seminars by Anthony Robbins, Ellie Drake or Jeffrey Combs.    If you are worried that someone might recognize you from being previously on stage with them, perhaps you can wear a disguise.  And you could register under one of your many pseudonyms like Frederico Gustavo, Lori Kay, Paola Diego, Lucy Owens, Lori Burns or whatever you call yourself this week.  

Or maybe you can just get a job!   But then, what happens when a prospective employer Googles on your real names, Fred Siller and Lorena Siller?



 Now who is stupid, Lorena?  If you are going to WRIGHT about someone you could at least check your

spelling.         Its going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.



 



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#7 Consumer Comment

You have no clue how stupid you're making yourself sound do you?

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

I don't think she asked for a "free pass" whatever that is... And I guess you must be a thief, it being you have no friends. And you might want to check into a mental hospital, the fact that you're typing in 3rd person POV... I don't know much about his woman, but she doesn't deserve these mean and harsh words. I guess your mother didn't teach you better...
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#8 Author of original report

Lorena Siller and Fred Siller - Thieves Anyway You Slice It.

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

Lorena seems to think she deserves a "free pass" in life from all her misdeeds just because she's spent time in the hospital.   Lorena, who really gives a hoot that you were in the hospital?    Again, why so anonymous?     The fact is, nobody would ever stick up for you.      Thieves have no friends, except other thieves.   Folks, don't ever invest in any of these illicit enterprises devised by Fred and Lorena Siller.   If you do you will never see your money again. 

New Life Medical Tourism Group

DeVarano Medico

Primo Travel

Primo Vacations

Profit With Fred

Cruise2Cash

Roadmap to Riches

Frelo Latin Wear

Hand of Heaven

My Million Bills

UM Group

Unlimited Money Group

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#9 Consumer Comment

Really?

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

This isn't Lorena, but after searching up this woman, I see almost all of them are from you, with the constant same report. "Oh, they didn't pay, AHHH"... Is that all you do though? Fill out the same report every day? Just to "Remind" people? How about you let people who are actually helping other people out. My prayers go out for Lorena and her recovery, along with her caring family
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#10 Author of original report

Why so anonymous? Not much of a disguise Lorena.

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

The fact is I'm putting quite a dent in your ill-gotten incomes, ain't I?     I can't imagine what it must be like to have your face on a "wanted poster" in every town in America.      Does it make you feel a little helpless, Lorena?     Well maybe you'll now understand that when someone who is a thousand miles away asks you to leave their home maybe you will comply.  Pay your debt, until then you reap what you sow. 

How dare I??? In a New York minute, that's how I dare. 
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#11 General Comment

How Dare you!

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (United States of America)

This woman tells, and has proof of an operation that could have took her life, yet you continue to insult her. How dare you "Russ". Not to mention you wright these "reports" almost every day! Do you have nothing better to do? And, if they "took your money" shouldn't you be busy at your job, not wrighting fake, misleading reports? This woman is a loving mother, and wouldn't harm a fly, yet you try after try to bother her happy an her husbands life. How can you even sleep at night?
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#12 Author of original report

Lorena Siller Now Calls Herself Lucy Owens

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

Lorena,

Lets face it you and your husband are con-artists, theres no getting around it.    You have operated various internet schemes including but not limited to Cruise2Cash, Roadmap to Riches, Profit with Fred, My Million Bills, Unlimited Money Group or UM Group, Frelo Latin Wear, The New Life Medical Tourism Group, DeVarano Medical Group, and now Primo Travel or Primo Vacations.

They are all geared at getting people to send you money when you have little or no intentions in helping them achieve their dreams. Once you have your hands on their money you are long gone.    If I am wrong about this, why are your contact numbers constantly changing and why is there no street address to any of your business endeavors?    

Although youve never victimized me with any of these internet scams you have victimized me by occupying my condo for a number of days of unpaid rent.   Rent you skipped out on when I had to give you the boot (ON YOUR HONEYMOON) for falling way behind on your rent.   A few months prior to that, you had occupied a condo just down the road from mine that a gentleman named Michael Cunningham owned.   When your family was evicted your son and husband literally trashed that place.   THEY EVEN WROTE STUFF ON THE WALLS OF THAT CONDO.    DO YOU DENY THIS?       And prior to that, when you were in between husbands it appears you were evicted from a 3rd condo down in Stuart, FL.   DO YOU DENY THIS?    These events certainly exemplify what wandering shreds of humanity you and your family are.   

How many more aliases are you and Fred going to live under?    If you really operate legitimate business why do you have to be a Ghost Writer ?  WHAT A CROCK!   Lorena Ortiz Burns Stiekman Siller, Lorena Kay, Lori Burns, Lori Siller, Lucy Owens, Frederico Gustavo.what a couple of phonies.

Do you really think Im going to develop some kind of guilt complex just because you spent time in the hospital.   Do you want me to send you a get well card? Maybe I should send it to your GOIN POSTAL MAILBOX, huh?
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#13 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Your crude response speaks for itself. My surgery is factual, and you are now the liar.

AUTHOR: Lorena - (United States of America)

I told you my very true story of recent, to see if you had a speck of decency or respect.  I even gave you the web address to view yourself, the pictures, my stitches and drainage scars, and the journal of my experience.  All in plain view on the blog colombiamedicaltourism.blogspot.com- You do know how to copy and paste I assume.   Would a call from my physician be enough affirmation, or would he be a liar and scammer also?   I almost died!  But for you to say it is a lie hardly is suprising and reveils your intentions to the world.   Shocker, seeing how you have made your new hobby posting reports about many others who "supposedly" wronged you, angered you, or looked at you the wrong way.  My name is, has, and always will be LOS, Mr. Saup,  no matter how your delusional and twisted remaining brain gets pleasure by fabricating, threatening, cyberstalking, and viciously attacking your fellow human beings.  Hope all who read this see you for what you truly are. A man who judges and complains about another man whom he has never met, talked to, or done business with.  You are aware of Judgement Day, or by your evil actions it is not a concern, but written in stone.   By the way, if you knew anything about blogging, writing, or books for that matter, aliases and ghost writers are used quite frequently.  Is there one you would like better than Lucy Owens....for a new blog we know you will be responding to?
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#14 Author of original report

Correction: Lorena Siller Now Calls Herself Lucy Owens

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

Typo error on my part.   Even on her new blog that she talks about above she uses an alias.    
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#15 Author of original report

Lorena Siller Now Calls Herself Lucy Ownes

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

Lorena Siller in her blog for the Primo Med Tours Travel now calls herself Lucy Owens.   Why is everything about you dishonest, Lorena?
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#16 Author of original report

Primo Vacations Primo Travel Lorena Siller (Phony Illness) Fred Siller

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

Lorena,  I wish I could bring myself to say that I am dismayed about your illness but everything about you is phony.   You are a con artist, you are married to a con artist, you don't pay your bills, you steal money from other people and your husband and son trash other peoples' properties just like they did at the Mariner Bay condo that you occupied in early 2010.   And if you really are sick perhaps it's God's way of sending you a message, but I seriously doubt that is the case.   Pay your bills, own up to your responsibilities and tell your gutless hubbie to meet me face to face.   BTW why didn't you get yourself treated down there in Panama or Colombia or one of those Latin American locales that you and Frederico endorse so much.   If you are looking for sympathy from me don't hold your breath.
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#17 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Hello Mr. Saupe, From Mrs. Siller

AUTHOR: Fred siller - (USA)

Recently you have made your life's work attempting to slander my husband's reputation.  One person does not a reputation make or break, and clearly you are alone in your endeavor.  Enough said. 

I am writing to share a very recent, life-altering event. Hopefully you will take a minute away from writing about our family and read this.  Last month I was very sick and nearly taken from Frederick, underwent a major emergency surgery, and it will be months before I recover enough to leave our bed.  A simple bladder infection turned into a 10 cm (about the size of a babies' head) abscess on my kidney.  I walked around in pain off and on for 2 weeks.  The 3rd week I endured pain constantly which grew to the severity of unbearable-I cried for 2 days straight as the feeling of two knives were stabbing me from the front and back under my ribcage.  I did not feel like eating anymore, I put off talking on the phone to my family so they would not worry.   I walked in circles for a night, had a fever of 103 for 2 days, and could not find one position that relieved the pain.  When we went to the hospital, I was severely dehydrated and exhausted and admitted into the intensive care unit with my own nurse caring only for me.  Of course all the usual tests were done and antibiotics given by IV.  I was on the strongest dose of morphine allowed, which dulled the pain but not enough to allow me to sleep.  The sonogram showed the large mass, squeezing my kidney to half its width, and mostly blocking my large intestine.  My tomography a day later left the doctors still questioning what type of mass I had.  Yes, renal cancer was one of those types.  As I endured the worst pain I have ever felt my entire 44 years alive (I have given to 3 beautiful, healthy children naturally) I began a prayer vigil for everything and everyone I could think of in my analgesic filled mind.  Mr. Saupe, in my deepest, darkest hours, I prayed for you.  And  I wondered if you could sense it, because my feelings poured out for you like they were my last.  The clarity, love,  and serenity I experienced will forever be cherished in my heart and soul.  I will never forget that feeling.  And I thank you for allowing it.  Have you had such an experience before?  You certainly know it if you have. 

Frederick never left my side.  He stayed strong for me and he kept in contact with my family.  My father upon hearing the news, wanted to fly to see me, but his doctor forbid him.  My illness had exacerbated his high blood pressure and was causing painful headaches as well.  My mother was so  distraught she was given an anti-anxiety medication which also gave her an appetite again. 

I was not allowed to eat or drink anything and had not had a meal in 5 days.  My phobia of surgery quickly dissipated, and after 4 hours in the OR on a friday night, the abscess was completely removed successfully.  Tests confirmed it was a localized infection, praise be to God, Our Heavenly Father!  

Many people whom I may never know prayed, visited, and gave support to Frederick and I.  A three year old girl recited the Lord's Prayer over the phone to Frederick while he waited for me during surgery.  A friend whom I had words with months' ago brought gifts and candy.  Her daughter is my caregiver now, and without her I surely would not be recovering so quickly.  My sister and I also have reconnected after a lengthy silence. All has been forgiven and forgotten, Gracias mi Dios!  My family has drawn much closer and been supportive and comforting from day one. 

I have a 5" scar which will be hardly noticeable due to the excellent doctor/surgeon whom I owe my life.  I have lost over 15 pounds but now enjoy eating as much as I like for the first time ever! Ha!  However, just a day or two longer and I would not be writing you, Mr. Saupe. 

I am going to write about this on my blog which you are of course free to read.  I have the test images and pictures of the incision I will have posted soon at my Primo MedTour and Travel blogspot.

Again, my prayers to you and your family.  Our God certainly watches us every moment of every day, and I live, love, and rejoice  in his name!! 

Always, LOS
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