• Report: #346926

Complaint Review: Pro Travel Network

  • Submitted: Wed, July 02, 2008
  • Updated: Fri, December 21, 2012

  • Reported By:foothill ranch California
Pro Travel Network
Fresno, California U.S.A.

Pro Travel Network lied Fresno California

*Consumer Comment: Travel Agent Scam

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Intersting Definition of a Pyramid Scheme

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Consider the pyramid

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: PTN - Legal pyramid scheme

*UPDATE Employee: Please Read

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Trusting people beware!! Don't be taken by pro travel network like I was.

Everything I was told about this company that could be checked was correct. They are publicly traded, they have been on Lifetime network, and CNN did comment on them. However, the info that was unavailable until you paid over $500. and long distance training calls was way off!

I was told as soon as I finished the 7 training courses I would become a travel agent and able to save over 80% on travel. I would also be able to offer this discount to family and friends.

This was a joke!! Not only was I not able to save 80%, my families vacation to Disneyland was going to be $1,800. more through pro travel network. Every travel arrangement I checked was more!

Unfortuneately, by the time I was able to confirm all of this, my 3 day grace period was well over. No money back.

I had a hard time getting anyone from the company to call me back. I even had my credit card company try. Finally, after calls from my credit card company I was called back so I could cancel my monthly fees.

To top it off, this company's rep, Christine Triffett, who signed me up, had the nerve to tell me how horrible I was treating her and this wonderful company. She didn't appreciate me calling them a pyramid company that was too good to be true.

Lesson learned! If it sounds too good to be true, it IS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

foothill ranch, California

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#1 Consumer Comment

Travel Agent Scam

AUTHOR: Alec22 - (USA)

Dear Keri,

While selling membership to become a travel agent is dishonest, it is also dishonest to become a travel agent for the purposes of obtaining travel discounts. Those are benefits reserved for hard working sellers of travel who use those discounts to educate themselves in their profession.

So, if you thought is was that easy to save a buck and you got ripped off, you had it coming.  You do not need to pay to become a travel agent unless you are enrolled in a University program for Hospitality Management.  Other than that, there are various jobs you can take in the travel industry, and with the proper training and experience, you could one day become a travel agent and EARN your travel perks.

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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Intersting Definition of a Pyramid Scheme

AUTHOR: juicyj - ()

This is PRECISELY the rhetoric PTN heads used at our meeting.  It's true we all work for some kind of pyramid scheme.  Most of us work under someone at a job, attend school, or have superiors.  HOWEVER, at the end of the day, I know if I work this many hours, I get paid this much, have a 401K, and benefits.  MLM"s cant promise you these things.  I've seen people pour their hearts and energies  and long hours into these things and get NOTHING!  In fact, most people lose money in MLM's.  If you're really good at it (and only 2% of those who join MLM's are), you could see a profit.  But the reps making it seem like it's that easy to be successful are only trying to get you in the business- because it benefits them.  Give me a "pyramid" scheme that guarantees a paycheck anyday over an MLM.
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#3 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Consider the pyramid

AUTHOR: From a different perspective - (United States of America)

I think it's interesting when people scream "pyramid". Every organization runs in a "pyramid" shape. Schools have a principle then assistants then teachers then students, church has a pastor, assistants, parishioners, the government has the president, senate, congress,your job has a boss, managers, employees, you get it. Somebody had to be in charge and train others to duplicate.
If you can't duplicate the results don't blame the teacher / up line: take your Own responsibility, find someone who can help you earn, access your profits/losses, Make a decision to stay planted, or leave it on the shelf and Move On. It's not rocket science.
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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

PTN - Legal pyramid scheme

AUTHOR: NoPTN - (United States of America)

I am an ex-employee of Pro Travel Network.  They are not a terrible company, and given the opportunity you can make quite a chunk of change as an ITA.. but the reality is they are as close to a legal pyramid scheme as possible.

What they sell you:

A "website" to book travel.  "Training" to learn how to do it.  How each form of travel works and how to sell it to people.  This is the "product" you are sold.

What they really are:

A network marketing company.  The REAL money is from turning other people into ITAs as well.  They are your "Downstream" and as they pay their dues to PTN you cash in on a percentage of that.  The real money is not in selling travel, but convincing other people to sign up to be an ITA with you.  This is the recurring revenue you will actually be paid for.  You could honestly never sell one trip to one person ever in your life, as long as you convince other people to sign up to be a PTN agent, you'll get paid.  It's a lot of work, and in my opinion is represented in a very slimy/shady way, but it's legit.

You hold "seminars" where you tell people how awesome it is to be an ITA, and use all kinds of fancy schmancy terms about how awesome it is to be a travel agent.  They sign up, then you get them to hold more "seminars" and sign up other people.  This is the pyramid concept.  You are the top, and your downstream spreads out to more and more people.

If this sounds like something you'd want to do, do it.  Hopefully this just helps you understand what you're really getting into. As for the gentlemen above whose wife makes $3,000 a week doing PTN.  I suspect you are somehow directly affiliated with the company. 
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#5 UPDATE Employee

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AUTHOR: Spacerock - (U.S.A.)

I am sorry you felt this way. I think you let your temper get the best of you. And I seriously think that you didn't want to become a sales person but instead joined Pro Travel Network for the discounts and not to become a sales person/Travel Agent.

I worked many sales jobs where our prices have always been higher than the other places. It's never stopped me from making a sale. To friends and family.

It's like that Old Sales Theory goes, if you sell low, your probably going to starve. If you start high and meet where the customer is comfortable, you got what you wanted anyways. Even though the customer thinks they got a discount.

I have a great story with them. And it doesn't involve myself but my wife.

I am a Salesman, I work in Advertising. My wife worked many dead end jobs for many years. Even with a degree. She still wasn't satisfied or enjoyed working for somebody. I always tried to get her a sales job because we have the freedom to do what we feel. We're on our own time and we're rewarded for our efforts accordingly.

Well, I could never talk any sense to my wife about anything that had to do with sales. Until she met Eddie, who was a Rep with Pro Travel Network. Who told her about this opportunity.

She tried it out and she struggled for about 6 months. She was contemplating on quitting.

After a meeting with the President of the Company, Mr. Paul Henderson, my wife came back to me and asked me for some sales advice. I was curious as to what Mr. Henderson had told her. But she started to listen more clearly of what I was saying.

After 3 months of my help and advice, she started grossing $3,000 a week.

I was shocked. I worked 60 hours a week in Advertising, and barely brought home $3,000 on a good week and here, my wife is sitting at home, making as much as I do, putting in less hours. She even bragged that I could quit my day job and join Pro Travel.

During a Dinner with Mr. Henderson, I asked him what he did to my wife to make her a great salesperson, so he stated to me "Use all your resources and contacts to make additional sales. That includes Friends and Family. Because you might know 10 people, who knows 10 people, who knows 10 people. If you do the multiplication, that's 1,000 people you didn't know that you knew."

And he stated "Especially your husband since he works in Advertising. He'll be able to advertise your business without you doing any more work and he won't even notice it since he's already doing another job!"

To my surprise, for the last 3 months, my wife had been asking me to leave her business cards in businesses I went too or she developed really close relationships to our friends and family. Which is why her phone was ringing off the hook.
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