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Professional Marketing Group - PMG Mentors - Private Mentoring Group - Vermotion - Secure Gate5072 North 300 West Provo, Utah United States of America
Professional Marketing Group - PMG Mentors - Private Mentoring Group - Vermotion - Secure Gate - Fortius rip-off! These scam artists target people with credit or cash selling free information available on internet. Class action lawsuit pending. Provo Utah
My husband, in our case, went to PMG Mentors, and signed up after 2 hours of phone discussion. He was told he would be made on of 100 specially selected apprentices of Jay Abraham. My husband was ranked #4 out of the 100 people selected for 2005 as most likely to succeed. Jay Abraham has an outstanding record, and very high credibility, so it is hard for me to tell if this program is really necessary and feasible.
What Jay was going to do was push my husband Tom very hard to get a website up and running within 10 days or so, and get him on an aggressively fast track that would make us a million dollars within 2005. If one of the 100 people selected succeed in making this goal, Jay would use this success as further future promotion for their company, and this summer, the top 6 acheivers would be flown out to NY for some type of promotional event and celebration.
My husband gave them our credit card info with the FTC on the line, verifying that it was indeed an FTC agent (she gave numbers to verify her valid status as an agent) - we would be charged 10,000 to our credit card, and would have 3 days to rescind on our decision. We have since called to rescind because there are so many reports on this website about PMG that it makes us nervous. I do believe they will refund us, because we have not yet done anything with their materials, and we are well within our 3 days, and because Devin Willis said that they would reverse the charges.
I personally am having a hard time balancing the creditability of Jay Abraham and the plan to take 100 people and personally cultivate them with the complaints on this site, even though most have gotten their money back. (that speaks very well for PMG) I can't tell if the people were just expecting something else or there really was a failure on the part of PMG. PMG has made it clear that WE do the work; they are mentoring us, but WE are finding the actual connections, and they are helping and pushing. So people that complain that they thought everything was done for them are not valid complaints I think. PMG made it clear to us that WE do the work - and validated that we already have ideas of our own to start an internet business selling our own inventions. We fit the profile of the type of people they are looking for quite well I think.
Laureen from New York brought up some valid problems that we are concerned about such as - you must use PMG only as your ISP - you must use vermotions templates to build your site (which might be very limiting) - some coaches have been reported to be less than agressive and helpful in really getting you to the point of successful selling.
Most people say that they could do the same thing for a WHOLE lot less cost - I am inclined to believe it - what PMG is selling is their marketing knowledge and expertise and the people to PUSH you and make you keep accountable. If a person is truly motivated, and my husband IS VERY MOTIVATED, then I think someone can make it themselves. I wouldn't mind spending 10K if it was going to make me in the 6 figure mark within a year, hell, even within the 50's or 60's within a year would make my life.
I'm trying to weigh what they offer with the true benefits and am having a hard time. Laureen, I need to talk to you. I am sending a request to ripoff to get us one anothers info.
Jori Lake in the Hills, Illinois
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