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Complaint Review: Proscout, Pro Scout
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Proscout, Pro Scout THESE ARE THE SCUM WHO RIP KIDS OFF consumer rip-off fraud Internet Internet
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: PROSCOUT IS THE REAL DEAL
*Consumer Comment: Mike #14
*Consumer Comment: I agree
*Consumer Comment: ProScouts
*General Comment: It IS a Scam
*Consumer Comment: ProScout is not a Scam
*General Comment: Proscout IS a SCAM!!
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Pro Scout No Scam
*Consumer Comment: ProScout
*Consumer Comment: SOME AGENTS GET MORE THAN THE $200 minimum...
*Consumer Comment: I WAS A PAID AGENT
*Consumer Comment: i was an "AGENT" that was Paid to attend.
*Consumer Comment: i was an "AGENT" that was Paid to attend.
*Consumer Comment: i was an "AGENT" that was Paid to attend.
*Consumer Comment: i was an "AGENT" that was Paid to attend.
*Consumer Comment: Proscout RIPOFF
*Consumer Comment: Proscout RIPOFF
*Consumer Comment: Proscout RIPOFF
*Consumer Comment: Proscout RIPOFF
*Consumer Suggestion: ProScout lands people legitimate agents and jobs
*Consumer Comment: Not a Scam
*UPDATE Employee: TCTalent filed this report ..I am an Office Director with TCTalent and know people at corporate.
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1) their 'scouts' have almost no experience- a few of the top execs do, but the kids they send on the road usually don't
2) their 'scouts' get paid huge commissions for anyone who goes to the convention from an open call they scouted- so they want as many to go as possible, but they 'weed out' the so-called ugly ones to give it legitimacy and make those chosen feel special i.e. mroe likely to shell out money to go
3) the conventions are a joke- they are used to sell photo packages (you get a mailing 2 weeks after signing up strongly encouraging you to pay hundreds of $$$ to use their recommended photographer), the agents ARE PAID TO BE THERE and often send assistants in their place who lie and use the name of the real agent and give out the agent's business cards
4) the agents ARE STRONGLY STRONGLY STRONGLY ENCOURAGED to pick as many people for callbacks as possible- if they pick too few they don't get asked back to another convention- they are told to ask people to callbacks and then a few weeks later say "they didn't have the look the clients wanted" so the customer feels like they got picked but then never get booked or signed to the agency
5) they have had to admit in court docs that they make almost every penny from convention fees. (and photography kickbacks, and the t-shirts and other junk they sell at the conventions). 92-90% of those who pay will NEVER GET A PAYING MODELING JOB. can you imagine if your business had a 92% failure rate!
6) you are there for 1 reason- to pay the convention fees to make david and his crew lots of money. if these guys were legit, they'd be working for real agencies as bookers or heads of divisions, not traveling around to sheboygan wisconsin in december to rip off unsuspecting teens and their parents.
7) THEY CLAIM THEY WERE STARTED BY THE WORLD'S TOP AGENCIES to find them talent- only 1 small problem- the best agencies say that is a LIE.....
EVER WONDER WHY THEY ALMOST NEVER HOLD OPEN CALLS IN NEW YORK OR LA AND RARELY IN MIAMI/??? B/c the people who live there can visit or send pics to the top agencies FOR FREE and they know too much about the business to get suckered. that's why they never do open calls in new york city.
KNOW THE TRUTH- HOLD ON TO YOUR WALLET TIGHT. GOOD LUCK AND GOD BLESS
Joe
philadelphia, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.
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Search Tips#1 REBUTTAL Owner of company
PROSCOUT IS THE REAL DEAL
AUTHOR: Sherri - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 23, 2012
a callback. In the initial selection stage, they chose ONLY 25 out of 350 people, AGAIN if money were the driving force then ALL would have been selected. The agency that signed my daughter has been in business for 26 years, has an A+ rating with the BBB and has ZERO complaints. It IS the real deal with contracts, commission and agents that are genuinely looking for talent. I thank PROSCOUT and VICTOR'S INTERNATIONAL for signing, my daughter.
Parents need to be responsible for their own choices. It is easy to project unrealistic expectations for one's child onto the ProScout service and label it a scam.
The agents are legitimate from the 8 call-backs, but a call-back doesn't mean much by itself. It is only a small step along a long and uncertain path. Agents will not attend because they are offered $200. That is a very modest honorarium; indeed, it is petty cash at the most. $1,000 for a speaker or workshop host is also quite modest. Check out what politicos get as guest speakers or some disgraced celebrity earns per public speech. I have been offered much more and I am neither a politico or disgraced celebrity.
#3 Consumer Comment
I agree
AUTHOR: Mike - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 02, 2012
Pro Scouts is legitimate. It may not be an effective way to get one's child into modeling or acting. Of course, they want a lot of kids and teens to attend. But one has to understand that they cannot know what "type" or person a particular agency wants. Moreover, let's be real, the odds of getting a print or TV advertisement let alone a part in a TV show or movie are very very long. Lots of kids play Little League baseball or youth soccer but very very few make it to the professional level.
If I have a criticism of Pro Scouts it is that their events are a little boring and involve too much sitting especially on the first of their two day events.
Rip-offs are an American way of life. Having lived in many countries, rip-offs are sadly far too common in the U.S. But Pro Scouts is not one of the rip-off artists. This website provides a great service but consumers also need to have realistic expectations when hoping to get their child into the entertainment industry.
#5 General Comment
It IS a Scam
AUTHOR: gussy - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, February 02, 2012
#6 Consumer Comment
ProScout is not a Scam
AUTHOR: Mike - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 11, 2011
#7 General Comment
Proscout IS a SCAM!!
AUTHOR: Rose - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 11, 2011
#8 REBUTTAL Individual responds
Pro Scout No Scam
AUTHOR: VHightower - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, January 24, 2011
We went to a Pro scout event and now have a contract for Modeling with one of the best known modeling co. out there.
It was not the only offer we had from the event we had a 4 contract offers and went with the one who offered within 12 hours after the event.
I feel the people crying scam are the one who got no offers and you can not blame someone else for what you are lacking.
#9 Consumer Comment
ProScout
AUTHOR: Mike - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Monday, June 14, 2010
#10 Consumer Comment
SOME AGENTS GET MORE THAN THE $200 minimum...
AUTHOR: Agent Man - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, August 25, 2008
Its a scam to take peoples money they get you at every turn... dangle the carrot then split town in hours at the conclusion.
#11 Consumer Comment
I WAS A PAID AGENT
AUTHOR: Agent Man - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, August 08, 2008
They sell at the the big room speech to sell for their optional seminar.
Those agents make a living off of PS and other similar scams.
We are talking $1500 for the day plus.
It is all hype spin and lies with a smile.
#12 Consumer Comment
i was an "AGENT" that was Paid to attend.
AUTHOR: Agent Man - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, August 07, 2008
You get airfare, meals a free trip out of town.
All the agents are the very lowest around. The MC, Brian, (alcoholic) goes around name dropping Hanah Montana and some other names that never had anything to do with PRO SCOUT and they agents they pay. the casting agents are nothing more than scam artists. MTV they love to tout when all they do is reality dating show casting. PS website mentions CBS DISNEY and all that. Try calling the studio to verify that!, studio lawyers will have that removed immediately if they knew.
Complete waste of money for families. The organizers invite the agents that just shut their mouths and take the pay and free trip and meals.
Call Brian Marcus the head of the place, Call Mel McFarlane Call Jennifer ask to find out exactly who is coming and of the 100,000 of kids how many made it?
It is all a huge scam. The modeling agents are their to recruit idiots to fuel their own modeling scams.
Selling silly pictures, room and board scams, etc... Save your money and put PS in jail!
#13 Consumer Comment
i was an "AGENT" that was Paid to attend.
AUTHOR: Agent Man - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, August 07, 2008
You get airfare, meals a free trip out of town.
All the agents are the very lowest around. The MC, Brian, (alcoholic) goes around name dropping Hanah Montana and some other names that never had anything to do with PRO SCOUT and they agents they pay. the casting agents are nothing more than scam artists. MTV they love to tout when all they do is reality dating show casting. PS website mentions CBS DISNEY and all that. Try calling the studio to verify that!, studio lawyers will have that removed immediately if they knew.
Complete waste of money for families. The organizers invite the agents that just shut their mouths and take the pay and free trip and meals.
Call Brian Marcus the head of the place, Call Mel McFarlane Call Jennifer ask to find out exactly who is coming and of the 100,000 of kids how many made it?
It is all a huge scam. The modeling agents are their to recruit idiots to fuel their own modeling scams.
Selling silly pictures, room and board scams, etc... Save your money and put PS in jail!
#14 Consumer Comment
i was an "AGENT" that was Paid to attend.
AUTHOR: Agent Man - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, August 07, 2008
You get airfare, meals a free trip out of town.
All the agents are the very lowest around. The MC, Brian, (alcoholic) goes around name dropping Hanah Montana and some other names that never had anything to do with PRO SCOUT and they agents they pay. the casting agents are nothing more than scam artists. MTV they love to tout when all they do is reality dating show casting. PS website mentions CBS DISNEY and all that. Try calling the studio to verify that!, studio lawyers will have that removed immediately if they knew.
Complete waste of money for families. The organizers invite the agents that just shut their mouths and take the pay and free trip and meals.
Call Brian Marcus the head of the place, Call Mel McFarlane Call Jennifer ask to find out exactly who is coming and of the 100,000 of kids how many made it?
It is all a huge scam. The modeling agents are their to recruit idiots to fuel their own modeling scams.
Selling silly pictures, room and board scams, etc... Save your money and put PS in jail!
#15 Consumer Comment
i was an "AGENT" that was Paid to attend.
AUTHOR: Agent Man - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, August 07, 2008
You get airfare, meals a free trip out of town.
All the agents are the very lowest around. The MC, Brian, (alcoholic) goes around name dropping Hanah Montana and some other names that never had anything to do with PRO SCOUT and they agents they pay. the casting agents are nothing more than scam artists. MTV they love to tout when all they do is reality dating show casting. PS website mentions CBS DISNEY and all that. Try calling the studio to verify that!, studio lawyers will have that removed immediately if they knew.
Complete waste of money for families. The organizers invite the agents that just shut their mouths and take the pay and free trip and meals.
Call Brian Marcus the head of the place, Call Mel McFarlane Call Jennifer ask to find out exactly who is coming and of the 100,000 of kids how many made it?
It is all a huge scam. The modeling agents are their to recruit idiots to fuel their own modeling scams.
Selling silly pictures, room and board scams, etc... Save your money and put PS in jail!
The only way you can make it is to educate yourself, i have dealt with so much scum in this industry. I was told i could become famous if i got a boob job (that the producer would pay for), change my name to Alexander Laville, loose weight until i was 105 pds (5'7) which is anorexic, wore green contacts, went tanning, and long black extensions...what is our world comming to that in order to become famous we have to be fake. Why do we want to see fake people in movies?
Personally i want to see real healthy, normal, happy looking people. I respectfully turned down the offer. I am dedicated to become a successful actress but if i have to change my morals and values then i was be diminishing the whole purpose of why i want to become an actress, because i love it and it makes me happy. Always try to follow your dreams, but never change who you are to fufill them or you might as well sell your soul.
The only way you can make it is to educate yourself, i have dealt with so much scum in this industry. I was told i could become famous if i got a boob job (that the producer would pay for), change my name to Alexander Laville, loose weight until i was 105 pds (5'7) which is anorexic, wore green contacts, went tanning, and long black extensions...what is our world comming to that in order to become famous we have to be fake. Why do we want to see fake people in movies?
Personally i want to see real healthy, normal, happy looking people. I respectfully turned down the offer. I am dedicated to become a successful actress but if i have to change my morals and values then i was be diminishing the whole purpose of why i want to become an actress, because i love it and it makes me happy. Always try to follow your dreams, but never change who you are to fufill them or you might as well sell your soul.
The only way you can make it is to educate yourself, i have dealt with so much scum in this industry. I was told i could become famous if i got a boob job (that the producer would pay for), change my name to Alexander Laville, loose weight until i was 105 pds (5'7) which is anorexic, wore green contacts, went tanning, and long black extensions...what is our world comming to that in order to become famous we have to be fake. Why do we want to see fake people in movies?
Personally i want to see real healthy, normal, happy looking people. I respectfully turned down the offer. I am dedicated to become a successful actress but if i have to change my morals and values then i was be diminishing the whole purpose of why i want to become an actress, because i love it and it makes me happy. Always try to follow your dreams, but never change who you are to fufill them or you might as well sell your soul.
The only way you can make it is to educate yourself, i have dealt with so much scum in this industry. I was told i could become famous if i got a boob job (that the producer would pay for), change my name to Alexander Laville, loose weight until i was 105 pds (5'7) which is anorexic, wore green contacts, went tanning, and long black extensions...what is our world comming to that in order to become famous we have to be fake. Why do we want to see fake people in movies?
Personally i want to see real healthy, normal, happy looking people. I respectfully turned down the offer. I am dedicated to become a successful actress but if i have to change my morals and values then i was be diminishing the whole purpose of why i want to become an actress, because i love it and it makes me happy. Always try to follow your dreams, but never change who you are to fufill them or you might as well sell your soul.
#20 Consumer Suggestion
ProScout lands people legitimate agents and jobs
AUTHOR: Tracy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, September 28, 2006
They also PROVIDE a photographer at their events whom actually charges MUCH LESS for some extraordinarly professional fashion shots than you would pay to get shots for your head shots/comp card if you were to enter the industry on your own.
In addition, their speakers are industry veterans who are knowledgable about the Business of Fashion and Show and entertaining to boot.
I would suggest that people looking into proscout do some industry research and see what the statistics are on working models and actors. You should only be entering this business if you're
1. Very lucky
2. Extraordinarly talented
3. Very, very serious about making it your career and infinitely persistent.
ProScout is money well spent.
#22 UPDATE Employee
TCTalent filed this report ..I am an Office Director with TCTalent and know people at corporate.
AUTHOR: Good Scout - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 05, 2003
I was going to keep quiet about it until Monday when Alec told us he wanted us to file bogus reports on this site so that the media could not get ahold of customers. (When ROR tried to give the names of clients and former scouts they would get us instead.) This company is out of control and lawsuit happy. I would talk to the media but now ironically they have made ROR the only safe place to provide information.
I feel sorry for the scouts in the KCAL story because Alec told us that they had sued them and they are even suing the media that went undercover. I know there are others that think this bogus plan is so dumb, but we are forced to go along with it because we need a paycheck.
Anonymous for now.
P.S. Here is a newflash for other employees: Alec said ROR wouldn't check the information. I have provided my true information and have been called by ROR on my first rebuttal. They promised to keep my information confidential and I believe it is protected by the Constitution.

