• Report: #713956

Complaint Review: QUIBIDS

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  • Submitted: Tue, April 05, 2011
  • Updated: Mon, July 04, 2011

  • Reported By: Moussa — chicago Illinois Australia
QUIBIDS
Internet United States of America

QUIBIDS Quibids is a scam Internet

*General Comment: In response to Employees post of April 22, 2011

*General Comment: In response to Employees post of April 22, 2011

*Consumer Comment: Definition of Chance and Randomness.

*Consumer Comment: If QuiBids Is Not A Rip Off Why The Deceptive Advertising?

*UPDATE Employee: QuiBids is not gambling

*Consumer Comment: What does "legitimate" mean?

*Consumer Comment: Please explain employee....

*UPDATE Employee: We are a legitimate auction site

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This site cannot be called a bidding site, it is between a raffle and a scam. I wasted $60 on it and felt I should warn others before they fall victims to this scam. Here is why:

-They almost definitely use bots to make fake bids.

-To get your trust and lure you to spending big they give a few small beginers prizes when you join.

-Their advertising about what the items recently sold for is false and misleading.

The above points constitute an illegal operation and grounds for closing down the site.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 04/05/2011 06:51 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/QUIBIDS/internet/QUIBIDS-Quibids-is-a-scam-Internet-713956. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 General Comment

In response to Employees post of April 22, 2011

AUTHOR: Common Sense - (United States of America)

In response to Employees post of April 22, 2011 

Hopefully, for your companys sake their legal console is somewhat more astute than yourself. The fact being that your statement With gambling, you have to have consideration, chance and prize. that criteria essentially describes the methods used by QuiBids to a tee. 

Please allow me to explain.

Consideration = The bid fee, unless that payment is returned to the bidder. Sorry, but allowing someone to use the consideration i.e. bid, plus the bid fee, as method of payment towards an item, does not nullify that cost as being defined as consideration. For the bid fee not to be considered consideration it would have to be returned in the same form as received,. 

Chance = The fact that the auction ends at a time unknown to the bidder, which by the way is an inherent quality of all auctions but unlike sites such as Quibids, legitimate auctions do not charge on a per bid basis, the only bids retained are those of the winning bidder and there are no added fees associated with the number of bids made. 

Prize = I do not believe this element of the equation requires any explanation.

I also would like to address your reference to skill but other than the ability  to operate a mouse, I have no idea what you may be referring to.

If this is the best argument to be made in defense of your company, I suggest you skip the court date.


 
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#2 General Comment

In response to Employees post of April 22, 2011

AUTHOR: Common Sense - (United States of America)

Hopefully, for your companys sake their legal console is somewhat more astute than yourself. The fact being that your statement With gambling, you have to have consideration, chance and prize. that criteria essentially describes the methods used by QuiBids to a tee. 

Please allow me to explain.

Consideration = The cost of bidding, unless that payment is returned to the bidder. Sorry, but allowing someone to use the consideration i.e. bid cost, as method of payment towards an item, does not nullify that cost as being defined as consideration. It must be returned in the same form as received, for it not to be considered consideration.

Chance = The fact that the auction ends at a time unknown to the bidder, which by the way is an inherent quality of all auctions but unlike sites such as Quibids, legitimate auctions do not charge on a per bid basis, the only bids retained are those of the winning bidder and there are no added fees associated with the number of bids made. 

Prize = I do not believe this element of the equation requires any explanation.

I also would like to address your reference to skill but other than the ability  to operate a mouse, I have no idea what you may be referring to.

If this is the best argument to be made in defense of your company, I suggest you skip the court date.


 
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#3 Consumer Comment

Definition of Chance and Randomness.

AUTHOR: stefen - (United States of America)

"First, we do not have the element of chance b/c we do not have the act
of randomness.  One has to have skill to participate on our site.  Some
participants have a higher skill level than others."

If you do not know the definition of chance and randomness, I will give it to you.

Chance - The unplanned and unpredictable course of events.

Randomness - The quality of lacking any predictable order or plan.

The fact that any one can step in and out bid you at any moment even if they hadn't even made a single bid up until that point is chance and randomness. If Quibids really wants to stand by your statement above then start monitoring and showing just how many people are looking at a single auction when you are the page. Not just how many people bidded on the item in the last 5mins. Also stop having "auctions" where people will literally bid 3-4 times the items value, if you can't then stop wondering why people call you a gambling site and why people believe you use shills and bots.
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#4 Consumer Comment

If QuiBids Is Not A Rip Off Why The Deceptive Advertising?

AUTHOR: Dr.Leakey - (United States of America)

To the Quibids "employee" responding to the complaints. Maybe you should watch your T.V. ads objectively and then come back to revise your statement. The fact of the matter is QuiBids is misrepresenting what you are and do. Your T.V. ad leads one to believe bids are 1 cent and that you "save up to 95%." Bids are not 1 cent. Bids are in fact 60 cents. How you get 1 cent out of 60 cents is beyond me and anyone who understands that 1 cent is 1 cent.

Secondly, what auction have you ever attended where when the time runs out, they simply restart the clock? Face facts. Your website and company are scam artists plain and simple. If you weren't you would advertise facts not fiction.
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#5 UPDATE Employee

QuiBids is not gambling

AUTHOR: J4me10 - (United States of America)

QuiBids is not a gambling site.  If we were, we wouldn't be in business. With gambling, you have to have consideration, chance and prize.  First, we do not have the element of chance b/c we do not have the act of randomness.  One has to have skill to participate on our site.  Some participants have a higher skill level than others.  Second, every auction is customer-driven so it is the customer who depicts the ending of each auction.  Third, no one ever has to walk away empty-handed.  This is due to the BuyNow feature we implement on every single auction on our site. The worst case scenario should be someone walking away with a product at retail price.

In every auction, you also have to take into account the number of free bids and BuyNows that are used.  Therefore, the end number (or revenue) is drastically altered.

I hope this explains things a little better for you.  If you're still confused and seek any other explanation, feel free to contact our support team at support@quibids.com.
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#6 Consumer Comment

What does "legitimate" mean?

AUTHOR: Flynrider - (USA)

"I'm sorry you feel that way, but can assure you we are a legitimate auction site."

   Penny auctions are for gullible people who cannot do basic math.   When a penny auction claims that someone "won" an iPod for $35, what that really means is that they collected $2100 from their unsuspecting bidders for an item that anyone could buy for less than $200. 

   In a legitimate auction, you are not out large amounts of money if you bid unsuccessfully for an item.   Legitimate auctions facilitate the sale of an item.  Penny auctions are gambling.

   One only needs to type QUIBIDS into the search box on this website to see what a great deal they really are.
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#7 Consumer Comment

Please explain employee....

AUTHOR: Robert - (USA)

Will the employee please explain the lawsuits filed against quibids in District Court?

I'll help you out with the case/docket numbers:

1:2011CV01013  Reason: other statutes

5:2010CV01277  Reason:  fraud.  I believe this mentions unfair and deceptive business practices. 

Take your time, we'll wait. 
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#8 UPDATE Employee

We are a legitimate auction site

AUTHOR: J4me10 - (United States of America)

I'm sorry you feel that way, but can assure you we are a legitimate auction site.  We pride ourselves in our ethical business practices and have been accredited by the BBB since September of 2010.

We do not have bots or shills of any kind as it is against company policy.  We do not 'lure' consumers by misleading advertising in any way.  All ads and marketing materials reflect the prices those products have sold for before.  Deals like this happen on our site every single day!  Feel free to contact our support should you have any questions.
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