• Report: #156066

Complaint Review: RESTORATION CHURCH OF OKLAHOMA CITY

  • Submitted: Mon, September 05, 2005
  • Updated: Tue, November 12, 2013

  • Reported By:Midwest City Oklahoma
RESTORATION CHURCH OF OKLAHOMA CITY
1501 LINWOOD Internet U.S.A.
  • Phone: 405-9999999
  • Web:
  • Category: Churches

RESTORATION CHURCH OF OKLAHOMA CITY FRAUDULENT OKLAHOMA CITY Internet

*General Comment: Beware of wolves in sheep clothing

*Consumer Comment: ask pete about this

*Consumer Comment: Same situation: Triumph Rehab and Church

*Consumer Comment: Had friend there.............

*Consumer Comment: IT WAS JUST A DOLLAR! PEOPLE ARE BEING RIPPED OFF HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS AND YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT ONE LOUSY DOLLAR

*Consumer Suggestion: Ignore this caustic report - see CLOTHING highlighted? it's for a reason.......

*Consumer Comment: really?

*Consumer Comment: My Family and I would like to say "Thank You" Oklahoma City Restoration Church for helping people beat addiction

*Author of original report: pastor of any church

*Consumer Comment: I did an online search for Restoration Church

*Consumer Comment: I did an online search for Restoration Church

*Consumer Comment: I did an online search for Restoration Church

*Consumer Comment: I did an online search for Restoration Church

*Consumer Comment: Whoa!

*Consumer Comment: OKC Restoration Church

*Consumer Comment: Pastor Pete is something

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: pastor peter vasquez

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There were two men collecting donations for the Restoration Church of Oklahoma City in return for candy. They were there Saturday September 3, 2005.

I donated $1.00 with a good heart. Something made me go to the internet to see if there was anything about them. I found this web-site with other people complaning that the church hires people and pays them under-the-table so they don't have to report to the IRS.

When I asked for directions to get to the church, I was given completely erroneous information. That is why, after I thought about it, there seemed to be something wrong.

I know where the building is located and was going to donate some shoes and clothing to them. But now I wouldn't give them the time of day.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MY DOLLAR BACK!!!

Wanda
Midwest City, Oklahoma
U.S.A.

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#1 General Comment

Beware of wolves in sheep clothing

AUTHOR: a mother - ()

I have been to the church several times. The first time was to bring my son clothing and soaps. (If you want soap for a bath or razor you are out of luck.) The 2nd time was a call for dress shoes; I was invited in and told it was not a Rehab. 3rd time was bring more clothing. I was the only parent that visit. There is something very evil about this place. God's is not there. Food was boiled water of a pototo. Your donation is the leaders way of feeding his face and/or the persons who you gave the money to put it in his pocket for food and soft drink.

Most of them had warrents out on them but hide out there.

Deny your child for God, excuse me your child is a gift from God.

God needs to clean house.

This info is from my son who i just picked up. He took the step of savation but could stay because of breaking man's and God's laws. 11/12/13

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#2 Consumer Comment

ask pete about this

AUTHOR: 73108 - (United States of America)

the pastor went to the mother church in cal.
the pastor of the restoration church in dallas went to the church in cal.
what happen to his church you were taught about Gods love and christian charity by the same person
oh wait he was'nt a real pastor was he he got his degree of the internet to
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#3 Consumer Comment

Same situation: Triumph Rehab and Church

AUTHOR: conseeker - (United States of America)

I know a similar place that is corrupt and is a church and rehab.

I want to thank all of you for supporting me and being there during the rough times. I was in the hospital as some of you knew and thank you for all of the get well cards and support. Apparently while I was in the hospital I received new information from you all about Robert Flores and his newest scams. I was receiving messages from the screen name tracker20 he claimed to be a boyfriend of some women that was in Roberts rehab program and asked me for help. I knew it was Robert and went along with it a bit, and then just got fed up. Well tracker20 is someone hired by Robert to track my email, for reasons unknown. I believe it is because Robert knows the truth is coming to light and it is making him nervous. Even if he found out where I lived and anything else about me, it would not affect me in any way I am doing nothing that is illegal if anyone is breaking the law its Mr. Flores. I am exercising my freedom of speech, I have not threatened Mr. Flores all I am trying to accomplish is getting people to see the real Robert Flores, that my friend is not illegal. This may be why he changed the names of his programs so we must be doing something right his false teen challenge site was shut down after I spoke with the real teen challenge who then contacted Mr. Flores and well end result the site was shut down. This was a positive but my supporters and followers have recently informed me that Robert is running the same scams just under new names. Tracker20 who Robert or one of his sheep were posing as claimed Robert opened a womens rehab which I did not believe but I have been informed he has. Robert also began a new church I am unsure if it is his church or if he is just a pastor. The site says that it was created by Robert Flores so he created the site and his picture is included on the site as well. Robert has opened a womens center in Lawrenceburg while his mens center apparently remains in Columbia. I have gotten messages asking how he is doing all of this and why he is not caught. Well everyone I am sorry to say that it takes time for bad people to get caught like in my example of Robert and Tammy Fay Baker they had a huge following and traveled all over the world making millions and they did it for a while. It took much time but eventually they were caught. I request all of you to watch American Greed it is a television program about people that run scams and some of them are religious scams like Roberts. In the con world Robert is small time believe it or not, seeing that he does not own anything and has to rent goes to show how small time he really is. The fact that he moves around in the same area as much he has shows his criminal ways but what he does is rents building or talks people into putting things in their names so there is no connection to him. Robert is not really stupid he is smart when it comes to being a criminal but very dumb when it comes to academics and business sense. He has no idea what he is doing and it really shows. What he does to make himself look or seem intelligent is that Robert surrounds himself with people that are not that educated like his wife. She may be nice or seem nice but lets face it she is not the brightest crayon in the box. When Robert encounters someone that does have intelligence he shuts down it is one of his weaknesses. If you go around calling yourself a doctor you better be able to back it up and show your doctor status. To someone that never graduated from high school Robert may seem smart to him or her but someone that has some education can see right through him. People like me and my followers who have seen all the evidence and helped me with the research on Mr. Flores can all see and realize Robert is really full of it. In the beginning it makes you laugh to see someone so stupid con so many people. But in all it is a sad situation especially for me and others that have lost family members to addiction. Many of you know my story that I lost my one and only child to addiction my son was a drug user and I did not see the signs. Since then I try my best to help families that have been victims of addiction. That is how I came in contact with Mr. Flores I was looking for a small rehab that was faith based and that was in need of funds to do Gods work. Well I accidentally contacted the wrong Teen Challenge looking for Mr. Flores and they told me there was no teen challenges in Columbia Tennessee nor was there a program leader named Robert Flores. I told them about his website and that is when I realized I have been conned. The research on Mr. Flores then began and that is how I found out that he is a liar and that he is just using others weaknesses for his benefit. I posted questions about Mr. Flores to some of the names that came up during my search some replied back to me and some did not. I heard very few positives on Mr. Flores and was taken back by what kind of person he really is. He tells people that know him I can con anyone and Im good at being a con. Which is partly true. There are many that have caught onto him and know who he really is. One person that knows him was one of his children, which I met through a social networking site. I promised them I would not reveal their identity so I will respect their request. It was heartbreaking what they had to say. They said to Robert and people that know him his real children dont exists they said he has a new family now and he will not claim them. They said he would not even be paying his child support if it werent for the fact that he was arrested about four years ago and put in jail for failure to pay his child support. This was all after Robert claimed to be living a clean sober Godly life, so that goes to show he is a liar. They said if Robert did not go to jail he would not be paying his child support. Even though he is paying the support he wont see his children they said they rarely see him and that he does not call and that they needed him during their teen years. Children need their fathers and the fact that Robert stands in front of the congregation and preaches about living a pure Godly life all while he is not. I am sorry to say that fatherhood is more that writing a check and even if your wife doesnt want you to see your children you need to do what is right. Children dont ask to be born they dont have the same choice you had of whether or not to make a child. If that is not bad enough he apparently adopted a child about five years ago, and treats her great and is a father to her. His child then said that I see Robert with his family in their nice houses and having nice things while going on many family vacations, and ask myself why am I not good enough to have that life too. That is heartbreaking he claims to be this great person when actually he is a coward that cant take care of his own children.

That is how I found out about Robert Flores so tracker20 bring it on come find me I have not done nothing wrong. It seems like Robert is desperate to stop me telling the truth but I wont be stopped until Robert tells the truth. He can be forgiven and live the way he claims he is living, but it will never happen unless he tells the truth. Back to his newest scams. I am posting all links to his new sites as well as contact information for anyone that wishes to contact Mr. Flores. I am hoping that Clark Kent will give me more information. He wants to but he says he is scared of Robert. Apparently Robert uses the men from his rehab to not only do work for him while Robert collects their pay, but will also use them as intimidations he will send them to threaten people. Clark seems to be a good 25 year old that just got caught up with the wrong person while trying to accomplish his dreams. I appreciate everyone who has helped me I know my son is looking down on me from heaven with a smile on his face. He knows his dad is someone with determination and will do what he has to. I care that is why I am telling the truth about Robert I am not getting anything from doing this, I am not benefiting or getting paid. Robert has not done anything personally to me so I am not getting revenge I just want the truth about him out there whether or not others want to believe it, at least I did what I could.

Here is the newest information on Robert Flores.

I did say I was done with Robert but that was before he hired someone to track me and before I spoke to one of his children. I am the voice of that child that Robert has hurt and continues to hurt.

Website and contact information of his church Triumph church

825 9th Street

Lawrenceburg, TN 38464

Phone: (931) 244-6514


Fax: (931) 244-6554



Website: [email protected]



 

The picture of him in the hat is from the site above, this is according to a person that knows him, Robert Flores. They sent the pic to me but I was having trouble opening it so they said I could go to the above site and get it there.

 Roberts new womens rehab center Triumph Recovery Center contact information and website


The picture of the house with the red car in the vehicle I assume is the center.



 



Address:



519 N. Military



Lawrenceburg, TN 38464



Phone: (931) 244-6514



Fax:



Email: [email protected]



Website: http://triumphrecovery.com/



 

This last site was also on the womens rehab site that apparently is in California. How I have no idea. It is supposedly a faith base organization called life challenge, which Robert claims to have changed his program name from teen challenge to life challenge, which is also the name on his My Space page. Robert Flores designed the site so it has to be linked to him. It seems to be some school but I am unsure why it is located in California. I know he has or had a mens rehab in Columbia called team challenge which was also a school and rehab. It just shows all of his inconsistencies, which also mean lies.

Here is the welcome statement:



 



 Welcome!



Our parish site exists to meet the needs of its members, and to help those members in times of hardship. We worship together as a community of believers. We support one anothers values and beliefs. We nurture the faith of our members in a variety of ways, including adult education programs, a parish grammar school, and guided education for school students. 



 



 



Contact us:



3375 Edison Way



Menlo Park, CA 94025



Phone: (415) 555-5555



Fax: (415) 555-5515



Website: http://www.lifechallenge.biz/aboutus.html





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#4 Consumer Comment

Had friend there.............

AUTHOR: Concerned Friend - (United States of America)

I can only speak on what I know about this so called church............first of all yes they do let people come and stay at their shelter. Second, as soon as you arrive at the shelter you get to be fed a sandwich or whatever they have on hand. They are supposed to keep you in the shelter attending church services for a week, then they make you, not ask you on a voluntary basis to go out into the streets and ask for donations. Now a couple of things wrong with this. They have only a few permits which every person asking for donations is supposed to have one. If you get stopped by the police without one then they will politely bail you out of jail, it's only right....correct? Well first these men and women should not have to go to jail because you don't run the shelter properly. Next, if they need donations then you don't get the weekly waiting period, you go out and ask for money. They get money, however they are fed breakfast and dinner, if you get no donations then you eat no lunch. The menu at this place consists of beans, beans and more beans. They even had a lot of Hot dogs donated so they had weiner soup. Never herd of this but I guess it's better than nothing. I can do nothing but shake my head, when most of the people asking for donations collect about a hundred a day. Multiply that times the number of people there, and you get beans?? I am not saying they should have steak but at least a balanced meal. My main concern here is the fact they are required to go out for donations. Many of these people are drug addicts who are put into very drug infested parts of town with money they have collected. Do you really think after a few days or a week they are strong enough to resist the temptation?? You are not helping them you are using them as mules to get money to bring into this place. The only thing that keeps some of them from spending this money on drugs is the fact they don't want to be homeless, however some can't avoid it. There is no counseling, no medication, no health testing, not even a TB test for them to all live together. I agree God can work miracles, but God also put in place a kind heart to assist people with their struggles not use them for monetary gain. The pastor of this place lives in a nice big house but these people cannot get a lunch?? If they do slip up and go do drugs then they are put on restriction for a so called thirty days.........wait unless.....they need money for the place, then back to the streets with them!!! This is definitely a rip off and very misleading, now when people talk about God, that's one thing, but when you seriously think your money is being used to help these people get off their drug addiction, you are SERIOUSLY wrong. You can house someone and keep them off the streets, but are you really helping them with their addiction?? They need counseling, coping skills, some need medication and most importantly GOD. Try spending some of the money that is donated by caring citizens to actually help them rather than tell them they can stay as long as they bring in money from the streets. Now if the men and women feel as though they are not ready to go into the streets or are strong enough, then they are kicked out. Period. Makes no sense to me. One last thing, if you think I do not know what I am talking about then rethink. I helped a person go here and they really wanted help, but this is what they got. God Bless you all.
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#5 Consumer Comment

IT WAS JUST A DOLLAR! PEOPLE ARE BEING RIPPED OFF HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS AND YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT ONE LOUSY DOLLAR

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

GET REAL,LADY.

YOU SHOULD KNOW NOT TO DONATE TO ANYTHING UNLESS YOU RESEARCH THEM FIRST!


Consider the dollar well-spent in the REAL LIFE SCHOOL OF HARD KNOCKS.

Some people here get ripped off more than just a dollar.

CONSIDER YOURSELF LUCKY --VERY LUCKY!

IT WAS JUST A DOLLAR!

Don't EVER give ANY money unless you check with the Rip Off Report or FTC sites first.
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#6 Consumer Suggestion

Ignore this caustic report - see CLOTHING highlighted? it's for a reason.......

AUTHOR: Jack - (U.S.A.)

I have seen similar reports used to bash a company or Christian service. It's hate mail used for the purpose of getting peoples atention and drawing it to THEIR OWN WEBSITE. IN FACT, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THE OK CITY RESTORATION CHURCH. I HAVE DONATED A DOLLAR HERE AND THERE AND EVEN SPOKEN WITH MEMBERS AND THE DIRECTOR. It is a fine establishment of people dedicated to the sobriety and rehabilation of alcoholics and drug addicts. I wish there were MORE places like this. As they are self-supporting and run, practically on a shoe-string, sometimes the mission folks give candy in exchange for donations, to help pay for the food they eat there, electricity, and basics of living. No one "hoodwinked" this greedy individual out of a dollar. She is just "using" this caustic report she made as an attention-getter to draw traffic to her own website.
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#7 Consumer Comment

really?

AUTHOR: Jill - (U.S.A.)

"their appearance does not impress me as people I would want representing my church. ... Clean your people up a little and teach them what to say and when to take 'NO' for an answer."

"People look at the outside of the person, but the Lord looks at the heart." (1 Samuel 16:7) It seems you're more concerned with the fact that you gave your dollar to someone who's not dressed and primped as well as you than you are concerned with where your dollar is going. I don't claim to know the interworkings of the OKC restoration church, but as someone who has also thrown a dollar in their bucket, I think their vision of the church appears much more in line with what Christians are called to be than nitpicking the outer appearances of someone who may be less fortunate than you.
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#8 Consumer Comment

My Family and I would like to say "Thank You" Oklahoma City Restoration Church for helping people beat addiction

AUTHOR: Kaye - (U.S.A.)

I did a search for Oklahoma City Restoration Church to get there Mailing address. and ran across this forum.

After reading all the Negative remarks about Oklahoma City Restoration Church and Pastor Pete.((( I was really shocked.)))
I have visited Oklahoma City Restoration Church, I have even visited with Pastor Pete. This Ministry has help so many people in Oklahoma City area. I will say that some of you on here are right, Pastor Pete did use bad grammar and didn't use proper punctuation.
But He does have "The Heart of God" That is all that matters.

My Family and I would like to say "Thank You" Oklahoma City Restoration Church for helping people beat addiction, giving them the word of God to stand on.
( You can give a man a fish, He will have a meal for the day. Teach a man to fish, He will have food for a lifetime ).
You are making a difference in OKLAHOMA!!! Keep up the Great work Pastor Pete.

In Christ Jesus,
Kaye


Trust in the Lord with all your heart,
and lean not unto your own understanding.
In all your ways acknowledge Him, and He
shall direct your paths.
--Proverbs 3:5-6
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#9 Author of original report

pastor of any church

AUTHOR: Wanda - (U.S.A.)

As a pastor of ANY church in the United States, it seems that a bit of education and knowledge of the English language would be of great benefit when dealing with American people. Obviously this pastor is uneducated and does not really know what his congregation does with his flyers and candy.

The people he is supposedly helping don't even know the address they live at, and cannot direct a person wishing to donate to the church. The people I have encountered from the Resurrection church have been dirty and unkept with scraggly beards. That is the men have. As far as the women go, their appearance does not impress me as people I would want representing my church.

The Resurrection church in Oklahoma City is on Linwood close to the downtown area. Clean your people up a little and teach them what to say and when to take "NO" for an answer.
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#10 Consumer Comment

I did an online search for Restoration Church

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

I did an online search for Restoration Church because a man came to my door and I donated. He was a nice man and we talked for a few minutes about my brother who is a homeless drug addict living in Fort Worth, TX. He told me that he himself had been in that situation. Also, he let me know that there is a Restoration Church in Ft. Worth. I'm searching the internet trying to find an address that I can give to my brother so he can get help. There are a ton of different reasons a person might do an internet search. It doesn't just have to be because there is "something fishy" going on.
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#11 Consumer Comment

I did an online search for Restoration Church

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

I did an online search for Restoration Church because a man came to my door and I donated. He was a nice man and we talked for a few minutes about my brother who is a homeless drug addict living in Fort Worth, TX. He told me that he himself had been in that situation. Also, he let me know that there is a Restoration Church in Ft. Worth. I'm searching the internet trying to find an address that I can give to my brother so he can get help. There are a ton of different reasons a person might do an internet search. It doesn't just have to be because there is "something fishy" going on.
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#12 Consumer Comment

I did an online search for Restoration Church

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

I did an online search for Restoration Church because a man came to my door and I donated. He was a nice man and we talked for a few minutes about my brother who is a homeless drug addict living in Fort Worth, TX. He told me that he himself had been in that situation. Also, he let me know that there is a Restoration Church in Ft. Worth. I'm searching the internet trying to find an address that I can give to my brother so he can get help. There are a ton of different reasons a person might do an internet search. It doesn't just have to be because there is "something fishy" going on.
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#13 Consumer Comment

I did an online search for Restoration Church

AUTHOR: Jen - (U.S.A.)

I did an online search for Restoration Church because a man came to my door and I donated. He was a nice man and we talked for a few minutes about my brother who is a homeless drug addict living in Fort Worth, TX. He told me that he himself had been in that situation. Also, he let me know that there is a Restoration Church in Ft. Worth. I'm searching the internet trying to find an address that I can give to my brother so he can get help. There are a ton of different reasons a person might do an internet search. It doesn't just have to be because there is "something fishy" going on.
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#14 Consumer Comment

Whoa!

AUTHOR: Priscilla - (U.S.A.)

Preach on Shari of Tacoma, Washington!!!!!

I am not disagreeing with any good doings of the church, but if everything is on the up & up, why did "Pastor Pete", as he's being called here, even do a search on his organization? I mean you can say that a member of the congregation informed you of this site, but what suspicious practices made the original person do a search on your church?

Something sounds fishy
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#15 Consumer Comment

OKC Restoration Church

AUTHOR: Mary - (U.S.A.)

I have had several opportunities to interact with the OKC Restoration Church, both with the individuals in the street ministry and by attending one of the Church services on Linwood Avenue. I make the statement that I have donated over $300 to this Church only to emphasis that I have confidence in the work this Church performs.

The Church provides a secure environment for individuals in need of direction and love. It provides a caring atmosphere where they can escape the strife of sheer survival on the streets while they examine the direction of their lives. When their search for life focuses on the next meal, it is difficult to contemplate any other purpose for living.

Pastor Vasquez shepherds a flock that daily comprehends the meaning of death; he is providing an opportunity for them to find meaning in this life, as well as, meaning in an eternal life. For these individuals, hope of any kindfrom any sourceis accepted with much fervor. And their training in surviving the streets makes them unyielding soldiers in God's service.
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#16 Consumer Comment

Pastor Pete is something

AUTHOR: Shari - (U.S.A.)

I was interested in reading this article of ripoff because I am a Christian. However, Pastor Pete's complete run-on sentence with no punctuation or capitalization or good grammar makes it hard to read. Get an education so you can defend yourself properly. Plus, how would you know as a Pastor that this report was given here unless you were afraid the information was true!
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#17 REBUTTAL Owner of company

pastor peter vasquez

AUTHOR: Peter - (U.S.A.)

im writing in to respond to your accusations against the oklahoma city restoration church my name is pastor peter vasquez i came to oklahoma city in 1996 because GOD called me to preach the GOSPEL to drug addicts gang members prostitutes homeless individuals i love the people GOD has called me to reach its a very hard work to do but GOD has given us great success in reaching people we a have a church and a mens home and womens home when a man comes to the mens home we ask for a commitment of 9 months to a year if the man truly wants to change GOD does use our church to help and change people they are not allowed to work because we want them to get a hold of JESUS because after all hes the only one that can help them as for this lady that says we hire people to fundraise for the church under the table her accusations are wrong any member of our church does it voluntarily we do this for the LORD so we can continue to help people if her husband does not pay child support that is not our fault its probably because hes a drug addict and has never been responsible hes never finished the program so how is it our fault i dont get it we are here to help people that it and this lady from midwest city that wants her dollar back she can come and get it any time if she didnt give it from her heart we dont need it but i want her to know that there is a church called restoration church in midwest city we are oklahoma city restoration church big difference huh also people have use our flyers to commit fraud before so i would be care ful what i would write on the internet i would make sure go to the okc restoration church and seewhat god is doing may the lord JESUS BLESS YOU GOD BLESS IN HIS HARVEST PASTOR PETER VASQUEZ

Peter
OKLAHOMA CITY, OklahomaU.S.A.
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