I did order a trial bottle from this company and I did get it. Shortly after, I was charged $85.26 throught my credit card and never recieved the product. then again this month...a new charge of $85.26.
The company is very difficult to track down a even half of their web sites are bad. When I finally did get to a good site, I called and spoke with someone named Eric. After telling him I did not sign up for anything but only ordered a trial bottle of the pills, he informed me I DID sign up for home delivery at $85.26 a month and that he showed that I had received the first shipment and he said he even had a tracking number and that the second shipment had already been shipped. NEITHER have I recieved!!
After much going on, he finally "agreed" to cancel my subscription and gave me a confirmation number. I then specifically asked "So now, I owe you nothing and I am no longer a member of anything with your company?" And, again, after much 'word play', turn out I was still signed up for a monthly newsletter!!! Which I also had to cancel. This guy also tried to bargain with me on a price asking me what I would be willing to pay monthly...he even said..."Would you be willing to pay 20 bucks?"
I asked to speak with a Supervisor. He was not willing to let me speak with one!! Then suddenly said "okay" and someone else claiming to be 'Edward Price' got on the phone. I have no doubt he wasn't any Supervisor, but had to go with what I got. Basically got the same stuff from him.
I also went to the site and cancelled my account from the site, which said I would be refunded $65.00 though, on the phone, they made no such offer even when I said I would return the product if it were to arrive.
Now, i can only wait to see if everything is correct.
This is by no way, shape or form a good company to do business with. Even on the phone they are cunning and elusive!!
EDitor's Suggestions on how to get your money back!
HERE IS WHAT RIP-OFF REPORT SUGGESTS YOU DO:
Go to your bank within 60 days of the charge, or as soon as you know about the charge, don't delay, and tell them that there has been fraudulent activity within your account. Explain that you wish to file a dispute, and demand that they assist you in accordance with Federal Regulation E.
According to the majority of victims interviewed by Rip-off Report, those who immediately called their banks to dispute the charges did not get very far. Many victims got the following responses from their banks: we could not do anything for you or you waited too long; it has been more than 60 days.
If the bank is says that you have waited too long, explain to them how you called their 800 number as soon as the charges were found, and were told by the bank that nothing could be done. Remind the bank that they failed to assist you properly at the 800 #, and instead, provided you with an inadequate explanation of your right to dispute. Tell the bank that it's their fault time has expired, and since they gave you the wrong info to begin with, they will just have to deal with it, take the loss and reverse the charges.
Tell them the truth; this was unauthorized and your account was NOT to be charged! Keep emphasizing how you never authorized anything! Direct them to the hundreds of victims reports that were filed on Rip-off Report.com. And if you're at the bank, walk them over to their computer and make them go to this site! If you are on the phone with them, tell them you will wait while they access this site! Either way, be persistent!
DO NOT TAKE NO FOR AN ANSWER!
Let them know nicely, that you were advised to Report them (the Bank) and this situation to the Banking Commission in your state. Since each state has a different name for the agency/controller over banks, find that name before you call or get to the bank so you can throw it in their face. The more knowledgeable you appear to be, the further you will get.
And just continue to demand the Federal Regulation E form! The bank CAN, MUST and WILL reverse the charge! But, you must be persistent; ask to speak to the supervisor or the area manager for all the branches in the state.
Let the bank personnel know you are meeting with the media later in the day, that you would much rather they do the right thing (as most other banks have) by looking at the complaints and immediately reversing the charge(s) to your account; no matter how long ago it was. Be sure to call the Media if necessary so you are telling the truth.
If you have to, be loud (but nice) in front of other customers. If you are just calling by phone, the above tactics should still work. The bank can easily fax or mail to you the Federal Regulation E dispute form.
CHARGES TO YOUR CREDIT CARD
If the charge was to your credit card (not debit card, check card, or checking account), contact the credit card company as soon as possible to request a dispute form. Consumers usually have a little longer to dispute fraudulent credit card charges (up to 6 months), but it is better to act right away. In this type of situation, credit card disputes are usually successful since fraudulent companies often won't contest the disputed charge. In rare cases, credit card companies will review disputes, but refuse to reverse the charges. If this occurs, complain to a manager and let them know you will be filing a report here.
Remember Don't let them get away with it! Make sure they make the Rip-off Report .. The more Reports filed on a Company or individual, the more likely it is that the authorities, media and attorneys will want to take action.
And good luck Let us know how you do!
ED Magedson Founder
Author of www.ripoffrevenge.com
PO Box 310, Tempe, Arizona 85280