• Report: #548953

Complaint Review: Roadmap To Riches, Cruise2Cash Fred Siller

  • Submitted: Sat, January 02, 2010
  • Updated: Sat, August 04, 2012

  • Reported By: jay from brooklyn NY — brooklyn New York United States of America
Roadmap To Riches, Cruise2Cash Fred Siller
Frederick Siller Jr. 772-260-9319 phone and text h ft pierce, Florida United States of America

Roadmap To Riches, Cruise2Cash Fred Siller Frederick J Siller He is a silver tongued scam artist..dont believe a word he says..he just wants your money..whatever he can get out of you. He will ft pierce , Florida

*Consumer Comment: Lorena Ortiz Stiekman evicted.

*Consumer Comment: Siller Eviction Order

*Consumer Comment: Fred and Lorena Evicted on Honeymoon

*Consumer Comment: Fred Siller and Lorena Evicted

*Consumer Comment: Nice Fishin Photo Fred

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Still fishing and golfing as

*Author of original report: What Fred Siller promises and does are two VERY distinct things.Hes always available until you send him the money

*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Once again an adult-child without accepting personal

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Fred Siller is a con man par excellence.
he will promise you the world and not deliver.
Do not send him any money whatsoever..no matter how much he promises he will work with you.
He is a scammer and needs to be stopped

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#1 Consumer Comment

Lorena Ortiz Stiekman evicted.

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

A further search of public records indicate that when Lorena Siller was previously known as Lori K Stiekman and in the process of a divorce from one of her previous husbands (Stephen Stiekman) she was evicted from an apartment she was renting somewhere in Martin County or the Treasure Coast.   The landlord who was forced to initiate the eviction proceedings was named Abichandani Ramesh and he was forced to boot her out in January 2008 or thereabouts.   

This was reported by the Treasure Coast Palm (the website for the local newspaper chain) under "evictions."     So I guess when she got the boot from my place in October 2010 after hooking up with Fred Siller it was her 3rd eviction in less than 3 years.  Most uncharacteristic of someone married to an individual who was supposedly a onetime owner of 10 insurance companies and who is "considered by many to be a major force in the home business arena for almost two decades."   Yep, Fred and Lorena are a couple of real high-rollers.
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#2 Consumer Comment

Siller Eviction Order

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

Here's a copy of the eviction order from St Lucie County to kick Mr Siller and his future bride out of the Mariner Bay condo that he was renting back in April, May, 2010. The owner of the condo told me that Fred Siller and his stepson, Zach Burns absolutely trashed the unit, even wrote stuff on the walls. This tells you what kind of a human being Fred Siller really is. If you have trouble viewing these images, just to a right click on them and save them to your harddrive. Then open them from there. They'll be alot more readable.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Fred and Lorena Evicted on Honeymoon

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

Heres another gem that attests to Fred Sillers great affluence!

A search of St Lucie public records indicates that Fred Siller and Lorena L Stiekman took out a marriage license on August 18, 2010.It was to become effective Saturday August 21, 2010.

Im not exactly sure when these two lovely people tied the knot because I wasnt invited but I do know that they checked into my condo on Saturday August 21, 2010 meaning that these two scumbags spent their honeymoon at my condo.

Can you imagine how irked Fred and his scumbag wife Lorena must be to be kicked out of their own honeymoon accommodations for lack of funds?

Take care of that bride of yours with that great wealth of yours, Fred!

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#4 Consumer Comment

Fred Siller and Lorena Evicted

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

In late April. Early May, 2010 Fred Siller and his wife-to-be, Lorena were evicted from a condo they were renting at Mariner Bay on South Hutchinson Island. This condo is located at 1604 Mariner Bay Blvd, Fort Pierce and is owned by Michael and PamelaCunningham who were forced to institute a legal eviction order against these two scumbags. Whatsa matter Fred? Big successful businessman like you? Cant afford to pay the rent? See the eviction order below:

 

 

 

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#5 Consumer Comment

Nice Fishin Photo Fred

AUTHOR: Russ - (U.S.A.)

Where's your fishing tackle, you phony b*****d?

Like on some of your YouTube videos.......like you're gonna go on a big boat ride and enjoy the good life, except you ain't on the boat and the boat ain't movin. Why?? Because you can't even afford the charter, can you?Phony b*****d!!!

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#6 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Still fishing and golfing as

AUTHOR: Fred siller - (U.S.A.)


you can see there Schecter.
Be happy with what you have not what you choose not to have  Schecter.
Stop your phone threats and email threats.
I am right here fishing at my beach house. Mentoring and coaching my team daily as 
usual!  Anyone who has had success as an entrepreneur or owning a business is aware
of situations such as jealousy and envy among those who are less talented or weak. It is reminiscent of high school days-gossip and immaturity. Schecter, not only did you bring your personal issues to the table, you found it much easier to blame everyone else.
 After years and years in this industry, connecting and networking with thousands of like-minded individuals, your rude and slanderous comments dont surprise me, coming from you. Much to your angst, my team and I  continue to prosper and believe in the 
"Land of Opportunity". It sounds like you dont only have a problem with the system, but also point  blame to anyone living it, because you think it is OWED to you.  Good Luck with that, in the business opportunity arena, or life in general. 
My rebuttal is this: Jay Schecter is a lying child, through and through. He will complain and whine but do nothing to help his situation. Do not work with him , no matter how much he promises he is capable of doing what it takes. He is a cynical individual who will spread like a cancer and needs to be stopped.

Follow Your Bliss,
Frederick Jr.

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#7 Author of original report

What Fred Siller promises and does are two VERY distinct things.Hes always available until you send him the money

AUTHOR: jay from brooklyn NY - (United States of America)

once you send it to him  youll never get him on the phone again...Hell send you some links to an email blaster and that will be it.
In my case i wanted to work the system..I felt he was straight with me until he got his money..If you look at the other entries about him youll find the same complaint.
For every 50 people he rips off..only one person will actually follow thru..this is what he banks on...
My advice to anyone who is dealing with him..STAY AWAY!!
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#8 REBUTTAL Individual responds

Once again an adult-child without accepting personal

AUTHOR: Fred siller - (U.S.A.)

responsibility.
Mr Jay  was delivered his service,product and support yet he feels that it in his best interest to irritate and aggravate with senseless,baseless claims of what I ask?
You were delivered a database of leads, a mailer for the leads and the system was even setup and put in place with advertising for you.  All for $400. $100 less than the agreed price.
Guess what that even included a $1000 level Product with the Opportunity that you chose to be a part of.
Now the total for these items was $1500 and you were well aware of that when you agreed to partner with me.
Yes you had personal family matters that were stressing you out. Please your harrrasing emails, phone calls ,threats and post on the internet claiming all kinds of abuse to you need to stop. 
Yes shame on me for listening to your sad story about your son being admitted into drug rehab etc. etc. blah blah blah...
You got me for the short down (monies you owe),but make no mistake you and you alone are the only one that can end your misery. 
Be safe. Be nice and be fair while accepting personal responsibility and cease moaning like the old dog on the porch.

Cya next post.


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