• Report: #383418

Complaint Review: Robin Bluedragon - Live Person

  • Submitted: Tue, October 21, 2008
  • Updated: Mon, December 14, 2009

  • Reported By:PITTSBURGH Pennsylvania
Robin Bluedragon - Live Person
liveperson.com/expert/spirituality-religion/religion/christianity/robin-bluedragon/?thid= Nationwide U.S.A.

Robin Bluedragon - Live Person Some Evidence of Bluedragons lies and Falsehoods, as well as other Information On Fake Psychics at LivePerson/Kasambaliveperson.com/expert/spirituality-religion/religion/christianity/robin-bluedragon/?thid=26 Internet

*UPDATE Employee: Another person who doesnt have a clue comments,sigh..

*Consumer Comment: IF YOU HAVE MONEY TO SPEND ON VERY EXPENSIVE, WEIRD CONVERSATION -- THIS IS THE SCAM FOR YOU!

*Consumer Comment: IF YOU HAVE MONEY TO SPEND ON VERY EXPENSIVE, WEIRD CONVERSATION -- THIS IS THE SCAM FOR YOU!

*Consumer Comment: IF YOU HAVE MONEY TO SPEND ON VERY EXPENSIVE, WEIRD CONVERSATION -- THIS IS THE SCAM FOR YOU!

*Consumer Comment: IF YOU HAVE MONEY TO SPEND ON VERY EXPENSIVE, WEIRD CONVERSATION -- THIS IS THE SCAM FOR YOU!

*UPDATE Employee: Lil Momma

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: More wack from Robin

*UPDATE Employee: re: well well well

*Consumer Comment: WELL WELL WELL

*Consumer Comment: WELL WELL WELL

*Consumer Comment: WELL WELL WELL

*Consumer Comment: WELL WELL WELL

*UPDATE Employee: ANYBODY CAN WRITE A PRESS RELEASE OR A CRITICISM BUT IT DOES NOT MAKE A LYING FAKER THE REAL DEAL

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Yo Robin make up yo mind!

*UPDATE Employee: re:Ethical Robin just broke the code

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Ethical Robin just broke the code

*UPDATE Employee: Mr Psycho still stalking minor girls on PB at Liveperson

*UPDATE Employee: Mr Psycho still stalking minor girls on PB at Liveperson

*Consumer Comment: to Misterpsycho and Joe and others regarding Liveperson and kasamba and keen

*Consumer Comment: ANYBODY CAN WRITE A PRESS RELEASE OR A CRITICISM BUT IT DOES NOT MAKE A LYING FAKER THE REAL DEAL

*Consumer Comment: The clown did his job

*Consumer Comment: oh grow up!!

*Consumer Comment: oh grow up!!

*Consumer Comment: oh grow up!!

*Consumer Comment: oh grow up!!

*Consumer Comment: Robin bluedragon, Soshone, Stormgirlblue Opening clients accounts and expert accounts.

*Consumer Comment: thanks a lot

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While we were researching the scams of Robin Bluedragon and other fake psychics at Kasamba/LivePerson we came across a very interesting bit of information that shows that Robin/Erick is a liar anda cheat.

In 2003, Robin Bluedragon wrote up a press release on PRWeb about himself. The part that is most interesting is where he says that he has 10 years experience reading others. So now, 5 years later he should have 15 years experience but if you take a look at his LivePerson/Kasamba profile he now says he has 20 plus years experience. So he has lied on his profile about the number of years experience he has. If he would lie and add years to his experience of reading others, then this really shows you that he can cheat an lie over his experience so, what more is he lying or faking about, eh!

Here is the PRWeb Press Release:

Robin Bluedragon is a natural psychic who 10 years ago contracted an illness,and during that time had an amazing near death experience.When he recovered from his illness and came out of the coma,his gifts were amplified greatly. Bluedragon has been practicing his craft locally for many years,and has helped many in the community improve and better their lives. He now works at Kasamba as an expert in many aspects,as a psychic and medium,a natural health consultant and herbologist and homeopath,a healer,tarot reader,and as an expert on occult and wiccan/pagen matters.

So, after his near death experience 10 years ago he found out he had gifts and then started reading others. He also say one minute he is a natural psychic as in a natural born psychic, born with the gifts and then he is saying he got these gifts and was able to use them after his death experience. So, I mean he seems pretty confused about this whole matter. For anyone that wants to look up this on PRWeb check the archives dated June 18th 2003. 2003 to 2008 makes 5 years so that would supposedly give him 15 years and not the 20 plus years that he has on his profile over at LivePerson/Kasamba see below:

Need help with your life,love or spiritual issues?Ordaned minister Robin Bluedragon can help! 20 + years experience!!

So, guess this proves that if your willing to lie to your clients about how much experience you supposedly have or pretend to have in the psychic field then you are not a person that any client or any human being should trust to give a reading too.

It's doubtful that Bluedragon really has any experience at all, most people who come to us to talk of their experiences with the fake psychics at LivePerson have said that Robin Bluedragon asks way too many question, and often turns the clients own answers that they have told him back on them. This is to try and make out that he really answered psychically when it clear that he is a scam artist and no psychic at all. Bluedragon is mean and nasty to his clients and if they question him about a reading that was wrong, he turn's on them like he turns nasty on people here.

The truth is out about you and your little KU group. Before you know it Robin/Erick, you won't have control over the desperate and despairing clients that hope that you can help them and befriend them, and then find out that all you are interested in how much money they can spend on readings and how long you can keep them chatting so you can rake in more of their money.

That's all that you and the rest of KU, are greedy, lying bullies who abuse and terrorise the real genuine psychics because you and your crowd want to get everyone clients and make more and more money, because money is KU's God. That's all you lot care about is the money and the scam and that's it. But, you know what, what you send out you get back 10 fold and you lying, cheating, bulling and nasty and vileness that you send out to people here and to the clients will come back to bite you big time.

We all know that he stole the picture that he uses on live person, that the picture is not him. He's lied about being psychic, gives two different answers about when he knew he was supposedly psychic, lies about how much supposed experience he has in the field. He tell's people that there are evil and negative energies around them, then asks for a disgusting amount of money to do spells that don't work and has the nerve to pretend that he's trying to help.

His attitude and vile replies show everybody what kind of person he is. He has to strike out curse and call people vile names, he talks like he lives in the gutter and that's probably where his mind is 24 hours a day. Someone who can be so vile and nasty to people here on this site is showing their true colors. Bluedragon is not psychic, and is not a good, decent, moral or ethical person.

He is a bully who harasses and hounds genuine psychics, sending them threating and nasty e-mails. His main goal is to get the Real Psychics off Kasamba so the cons and thieves of KU, can manipulate and take advantage of despairing client in their hour of need and get as much money off the clients as they want. Telling lies about dark energies, evil entities etc. People get scared and give him and his other KU friends money to rid themselves of evil and the bad things in their lives with spells and prayers costing ridiculous amounts of money. When the client sees no difference in their lives and go back to Bluedragon and the other KU members and complains, they are sent nasty, vile, upsetting messages.

Bluedragon and the members of KU are con artists, gypsy scam artists whose only interest is in greed.

Beside KU, there are groups like wahm and the section for psychic readers, alot of the ones that post on this section are liveperson/kasamba psychics. Take a look back through the postings for a few pages and all you will see is another group that the scammers use to talk about their favourite subjects money and their ratings. Go to the psychic section of wahm and look back over a few of the pages and you will see for your self.

It is not a sin or un-ethical for a real psychic to charge a small fee for the service of a reading, but with a real psychic, money and ratings is not the main goal. A real psychic won't mind being tested, if you go to a psychic and they say they don't like testing games then they are not a real psychic and their a fraud. Don't listen to any so called psychic that asks for money for spells or prayers, no genuine psychic or Wiccan, Traditional Witch would put a price on a spell, a prayer or a candle.

The con psychics have pretty much taken over LivePerson/Kasamba, if your interested in readings then find another psychic site and try to find one that tests their psychics at least that way you know your getting a genuine company and genuine readers to deal with.

I am all for saying no to fraud psychic scammers, don't spend another penny on Liveperson. I am part of a four group research and writer team who are investigating and writing articles to be published on fraud psychics online. I am one of the researchers and we have found that the majority of readers on LivePerson/Kasamba now are the frauds. There are maybe about 8-10 that are genuine but the rest are all con-artists wanting to prey on desperate people and steal as much money as they can from them.

Unlike Janice and her group, we do not get readings from psychics, two members of our group, myself and another are genuine psychic readers, but don't hold the fact that we are readers against us. This project of ours is about getting the frauds out of the industry, so people can be guranteed genuine readings from genuine and accurate psychics and mediums.

Another thing that makes us different from Janice and several of her group members is that we are stable in our mental state, we are not going to call people vile and nasty names or threaten them with vengence as these other people do. We have this working group to research and write up articles, to be published in a media outlet we have already spoken too. The media outlet have agreed to publish are findings as the two writers in the group are Journalists, and have many contacts within the media industry. Which is lucky for us and what we are trying to accomplish - to boot the frauds out once and for all. Maybe when there double dealings are made public, these frauds will go and climb back under the rocks they came from

Several month's ago I posted our e-mail address for this project on another post and in the last 3 months alone we have had just over 800 complaints from ex-clients who were conned out of alot of money by so called psychic readers like Robin/Erick Bluedragon, Emily Rose and many other people who belong to KU, and other so called psychics that work on kas. We also have been approached by genuine readers who were bullied, threatened and harassed by Bluedragon and his KU commrades. These people in KU, talk of being so good as psychics and being so spiritual but everytime they post replies here all you see is the vile and nasty personality and characters that they really are. This posting will get some of their unique brand of mean, vile and nasty comments, but you know what, there are some things that just need to be said.

Charlotte58
PITTSBURGH, Pennsylvania
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 10/21/2008 01:56 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Robin-Bluedragon-Live-Person/nationwide/Robin-Bluedragon-Live-Person-Some-Evidence-of-Bluedragons-lies-and-Falsehoods-as-well-a-383418. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 UPDATE Employee

Another person who doesnt have a clue comments,sigh..

AUTHOR: Erik - (U.S.A.)

I have offered this again and again and havent gotten ONE SINGLE TAKER...

If I read for you and you request it of me,and have a session number for a valid session,then I will gladly refund you.

So far the tally is this:

Bluedragon - 3070 positive ratings

Refunds given - 0

People who supplied sessions numbers- 0

 

Anyone who is fooled with the stuff ,slanderous and otherwise,on this site,isnt a client I would have anyway. My clients seem to have good sense and dont believe nonsense they read in a site where the owner is wanted by the FBI!

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#2 Consumer Comment

IF YOU HAVE MONEY TO SPEND ON VERY EXPENSIVE, WEIRD CONVERSATION -- THIS IS THE SCAM FOR YOU!

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

PEOPLE WHO CALL THE FAKE PSYCHIC HOTLINES --AND THERE ARE MANY-- GET EXACTLY WHAT THEY DESERVE AND THAT IS RIPPED OFF.

AND THE SAME PEOPLE GET ON THE INTERNET SITESAND IN THE CHAT ROOMS, ASKING TO BE RIPPED OFF, PLEADING TO GET RIPPED OFF AND THEY ARE RIPPED OFF BY THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS EACH.

HOW GREAT FOR THE PURVEYORS OF THESE LUCRATIVE SCAMS.

BUT I NOTICE THAT THEY SEEM TO FIGHT A LOT OVER DISPUTED TERRITORY. LIKE THE GULF, SINALOA AND THE OTHER CARTELS IN MEXICO.

I WONDER WHICH FAMILIES ARE FEUDING NOW?

ABOUT THIRTY YEARS AGO, IT WAS THE RICE FAMILY AND THE ADAMS FAMILY FIGHTING. THEY SHOULD HAVE SETTLED IT BY NOW.

OF COURSE RICE AND ADAMS WEREN'T THEIR REAL SURNAMES BECAUSE THOSE TEND TO CHANGE AS THEY GO FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY.

GUYS, THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY TO GO AROUND FROM THE IDIOTS IN THE WORLD WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN THIS STUFF. SO YOU ALL DON'T NEED TO FIGHT.

JUST GET READY TO COUNT UP ALL THAT CASH.

AND FOR THE IDIOTS WHO CALL AND WHO BELIEVE IN THINGS LIKE MAGIC SPELLS AND PSYCHICS WHO CAN FORETELL YOUR INDIVIDUAL FUTURE, ETC. & ETC. AND WANT A QUICK FIX TO YOUR PROBLEMS -- YOU WON'T GET IT HERE.

BUT IF YOU WANT WEIRD, FASCINATING, AND EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE CONVERSATION WITH NO RESULTS, SPELLS NEVER CAST OR MISCAST BUT YOU WILL PAY, PREDICTIONS FOR YOUR FUTURE THAT NEVER COME TRUE, BUT YOU WILL PAY AND PAY AND PAY AND PAY..... THESE ARE THE PEOPLE TO CALL. ANY OF THEM, ALL OF THEM, SINGLY, COLLECTIVELY.

THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU AND YOUR MONEY! ESPECIALLY YOUR MONEY.

BUT THEN, YOU WERE WARNED IN RIP OFF REPORT.
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#3 Consumer Comment

IF YOU HAVE MONEY TO SPEND ON VERY EXPENSIVE, WEIRD CONVERSATION -- THIS IS THE SCAM FOR YOU!

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

PEOPLE WHO CALL THE FAKE PSYCHIC HOTLINES --AND THERE ARE MANY-- GET EXACTLY WHAT THEY DESERVE AND THAT IS RIPPED OFF.

AND THE SAME PEOPLE GET ON THE INTERNET SITESAND IN THE CHAT ROOMS, ASKING TO BE RIPPED OFF, PLEADING TO GET RIPPED OFF AND THEY ARE RIPPED OFF BY THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS EACH.

HOW GREAT FOR THE PURVEYORS OF THESE LUCRATIVE SCAMS.

BUT I NOTICE THAT THEY SEEM TO FIGHT A LOT OVER DISPUTED TERRITORY. LIKE THE GULF, SINALOA AND THE OTHER CARTELS IN MEXICO.

I WONDER WHICH FAMILIES ARE FEUDING NOW?

ABOUT THIRTY YEARS AGO, IT WAS THE RICE FAMILY AND THE ADAMS FAMILY FIGHTING. THEY SHOULD HAVE SETTLED IT BY NOW.

OF COURSE RICE AND ADAMS WEREN'T THEIR REAL SURNAMES BECAUSE THOSE TEND TO CHANGE AS THEY GO FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY.

GUYS, THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY TO GO AROUND FROM THE IDIOTS IN THE WORLD WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN THIS STUFF. SO YOU ALL DON'T NEED TO FIGHT.

JUST GET READY TO COUNT UP ALL THAT CASH.

AND FOR THE IDIOTS WHO CALL AND WHO BELIEVE IN THINGS LIKE MAGIC SPELLS AND PSYCHICS WHO CAN FORETELL YOUR INDIVIDUAL FUTURE, ETC. & ETC. AND WANT A QUICK FIX TO YOUR PROBLEMS -- YOU WON'T GET IT HERE.

BUT IF YOU WANT WEIRD, FASCINATING, AND EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE CONVERSATION WITH NO RESULTS, SPELLS NEVER CAST OR MISCAST BUT YOU WILL PAY, PREDICTIONS FOR YOUR FUTURE THAT NEVER COME TRUE, BUT YOU WILL PAY AND PAY AND PAY AND PAY..... THESE ARE THE PEOPLE TO CALL. ANY OF THEM, ALL OF THEM, SINGLY, COLLECTIVELY.

THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU AND YOUR MONEY! ESPECIALLY YOUR MONEY.

BUT THEN, YOU WERE WARNED IN RIP OFF REPORT.
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#4 Consumer Comment

IF YOU HAVE MONEY TO SPEND ON VERY EXPENSIVE, WEIRD CONVERSATION -- THIS IS THE SCAM FOR YOU!

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

PEOPLE WHO CALL THE FAKE PSYCHIC HOTLINES --AND THERE ARE MANY-- GET EXACTLY WHAT THEY DESERVE AND THAT IS RIPPED OFF.

AND THE SAME PEOPLE GET ON THE INTERNET SITESAND IN THE CHAT ROOMS, ASKING TO BE RIPPED OFF, PLEADING TO GET RIPPED OFF AND THEY ARE RIPPED OFF BY THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS EACH.

HOW GREAT FOR THE PURVEYORS OF THESE LUCRATIVE SCAMS.

BUT I NOTICE THAT THEY SEEM TO FIGHT A LOT OVER DISPUTED TERRITORY. LIKE THE GULF, SINALOA AND THE OTHER CARTELS IN MEXICO.

I WONDER WHICH FAMILIES ARE FEUDING NOW?

ABOUT THIRTY YEARS AGO, IT WAS THE RICE FAMILY AND THE ADAMS FAMILY FIGHTING. THEY SHOULD HAVE SETTLED IT BY NOW.

OF COURSE RICE AND ADAMS WEREN'T THEIR REAL SURNAMES BECAUSE THOSE TEND TO CHANGE AS THEY GO FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY.

GUYS, THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY TO GO AROUND FROM THE IDIOTS IN THE WORLD WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN THIS STUFF. SO YOU ALL DON'T NEED TO FIGHT.

JUST GET READY TO COUNT UP ALL THAT CASH.

AND FOR THE IDIOTS WHO CALL AND WHO BELIEVE IN THINGS LIKE MAGIC SPELLS AND PSYCHICS WHO CAN FORETELL YOUR INDIVIDUAL FUTURE, ETC. & ETC. AND WANT A QUICK FIX TO YOUR PROBLEMS -- YOU WON'T GET IT HERE.

BUT IF YOU WANT WEIRD, FASCINATING, AND EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE CONVERSATION WITH NO RESULTS, SPELLS NEVER CAST OR MISCAST BUT YOU WILL PAY, PREDICTIONS FOR YOUR FUTURE THAT NEVER COME TRUE, BUT YOU WILL PAY AND PAY AND PAY AND PAY..... THESE ARE THE PEOPLE TO CALL. ANY OF THEM, ALL OF THEM, SINGLY, COLLECTIVELY.

THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU AND YOUR MONEY! ESPECIALLY YOUR MONEY.

BUT THEN, YOU WERE WARNED IN RIP OFF REPORT.
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#5 Consumer Comment

IF YOU HAVE MONEY TO SPEND ON VERY EXPENSIVE, WEIRD CONVERSATION -- THIS IS THE SCAM FOR YOU!

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

PEOPLE WHO CALL THE FAKE PSYCHIC HOTLINES --AND THERE ARE MANY-- GET EXACTLY WHAT THEY DESERVE AND THAT IS RIPPED OFF.

AND THE SAME PEOPLE GET ON THE INTERNET SITESAND IN THE CHAT ROOMS, ASKING TO BE RIPPED OFF, PLEADING TO GET RIPPED OFF AND THEY ARE RIPPED OFF BY THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS EACH.

HOW GREAT FOR THE PURVEYORS OF THESE LUCRATIVE SCAMS.

BUT I NOTICE THAT THEY SEEM TO FIGHT A LOT OVER DISPUTED TERRITORY. LIKE THE GULF, SINALOA AND THE OTHER CARTELS IN MEXICO.

I WONDER WHICH FAMILIES ARE FEUDING NOW?

ABOUT THIRTY YEARS AGO, IT WAS THE RICE FAMILY AND THE ADAMS FAMILY FIGHTING. THEY SHOULD HAVE SETTLED IT BY NOW.

OF COURSE RICE AND ADAMS WEREN'T THEIR REAL SURNAMES BECAUSE THOSE TEND TO CHANGE AS THEY GO FROM COUNTRY TO COUNTRY.

GUYS, THERE IS MORE THAN ENOUGH MONEY TO GO AROUND FROM THE IDIOTS IN THE WORLD WHO ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN THIS STUFF. SO YOU ALL DON'T NEED TO FIGHT.

JUST GET READY TO COUNT UP ALL THAT CASH.

AND FOR THE IDIOTS WHO CALL AND WHO BELIEVE IN THINGS LIKE MAGIC SPELLS AND PSYCHICS WHO CAN FORETELL YOUR INDIVIDUAL FUTURE, ETC. & ETC. AND WANT A QUICK FIX TO YOUR PROBLEMS -- YOU WON'T GET IT HERE.

BUT IF YOU WANT WEIRD, FASCINATING, AND EXTREMELY EXPENSIVE CONVERSATION WITH NO RESULTS, SPELLS NEVER CAST OR MISCAST BUT YOU WILL PAY, PREDICTIONS FOR YOUR FUTURE THAT NEVER COME TRUE, BUT YOU WILL PAY AND PAY AND PAY AND PAY..... THESE ARE THE PEOPLE TO CALL. ANY OF THEM, ALL OF THEM, SINGLY, COLLECTIVELY.

THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU AND YOUR MONEY! ESPECIALLY YOUR MONEY.

BUT THEN, YOU WERE WARNED IN RIP OFF REPORT.
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#6 UPDATE Employee

Lil Momma

AUTHOR: Erik - (U.S.A.)

General : Being full of crap and no proof of anything
From: lil momma Sent: 02/18/2009 10:21 PM
I hide behind a mask because I am a gutless loser,who betrays friends and those who would be good for me. I attack psychics because I have no life and am off my meds.

This is the real thing shemeant to type...must be those meds.
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#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds

More wack from Robin

AUTHOR: Lil Momma - (U.S.A.)

Yo check it. Aswynn used to be a member of KU and has put some crazy wack curse on the members. Krazy! I guez dis iz why she mad!

General : Lions and Tigers and Curses, oh my!
From: robinbluedragon Sent: 02/18/2009 10:21 PM
she hates us because she was kicked out of the group for being a disturbance,among other things.

Hez another wack rant from Robin! KU is bein shut down by MSN but they opened on Yahoo azz LProsperity. Will post mo frum der when somethin happenz. Like criketz ova there now.

Client Issues : Randy Candy (ID 998602)
From: robinbluedragon (Original Message) Sent: 02/10/2009 11:43 AM
This one has about 300 in suspended to me now,and as mentioned in another thread,LP is saying they arent good clients and have a history of charge backs.

Has anyone else had them?


From: robinbluedragon Sent: 02/13/2009 5:47 PM
Since Lp took over I have almost 1200 in cancelled...before them I had (from 2003-2008 ) $45 !!! something is sure wrong with this situation!

Client Issues : JLE MemID 997706 time waster wont hire
From: robinbluedragon (Original Message) Sent: 11/20/2008 12:00 PM
Doesnt hire,wastes your time

jane asking about Chris and real estate.





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re: well well well

AUTHOR: Erik - (U.S.A.)

I am going to put it so you can understand it,Mr Psycho. You dont know your a*s from your elbow.
You lie,stalk and molest this poor girl every chance you can and then run to LP and post over and over your sob story about how you love her but she is afraid or too shy to show you she loves you,all the while getting fake readers to tell you oh yes she wants you...what a liar and a phoney you are. You dont mention your age or hers...or how you have been stalking her for 4 years! And she still isnt of age!
I didnt say you could hack anything..I doubt you can walk and chew gum personally. You sure couldnt have the pentagon.
You are just a sad and pathetic pervert stalking an underaged girl and will eventually be caught for it...the sooner the better.
Get help for your sickness and perversion and then try to get a life...obsession is your thing,right now,and you need toget past that and into something productive.
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#9 Consumer Comment

WELL WELL WELL

AUTHOR: Misterpsycho - (Canada)

So now i am being accused of having hacked into kasamba uptopia private forum on msn and that i also have access to the expert forum on liveperson.

I am sorry to break it to you but i did not hack into your forum. In fact i would not even know how. I just don'T see why i would even hack into that group. SOmehow i feel that you think you are too important and are way too much full of yourself. If their is a mule in your group it isn't me. You seem lile a stalker making threats to me hoping i would just disapear. If you have nothing to hide and that you don'T say anything in it that you would not say to someone right in their face. Then why are you paranoid that someone hacked into your group in the first place.

The more i read what you said about people hacking into the pantagon computer and that it would be easy to hack into your group if someone wanted to. Yes that is true but the hacking into the pantagone is another thing. People could turn the united states upside down. It'S way more rewarding that hacking into Kasamba Uptopia. I can see why you are SUPPOSELY on Disabelity benefit just by reading what you wrote right there.


As far as that poor client that is supposely stalking a young girl. It seems to me that you are putting all your little life problems on that poor client. I donT know who is that client. Like HE IS responsible for what is Happening right now into your life. Your OWN actions brought you to the situation where your are right now about being exposed. As for me i am not stalking anyone I work and when i am not working you can find me bowling as a sport or playing society games with family and other family friends. No not child games but adult society games. If not that i listen to a lot of music and watch a little of tv. You always talk about being a stalking victim and people making threats to you and how your clients are stalker. That people have no proof of what they say but then you turn around and do the exact same thing. You stalk people and make threats to them.

AND my rant about SHoshone and you Robind Bluedragon. I never said that you were SHoshone but she is certainly part of your little group. You share clients and also she follow your price range of 4.99$ to 6.99$


It would not surprise me that i would be accused of being Janice Duff. He always talk
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#10 Consumer Comment

WELL WELL WELL

AUTHOR: Misterpsycho - (Canada)

So now i am being accused of having hacked into kasamba uptopia private forum on msn and that i also have access to the expert forum on liveperson.

I am sorry to break it to you but i did not hack into your forum. In fact i would not even know how. I just don'T see why i would even hack into that group. SOmehow i feel that you think you are too important and are way too much full of yourself. If their is a mule in your group it isn't me. You seem lile a stalker making threats to me hoping i would just disapear. If you have nothing to hide and that you don'T say anything in it that you would not say to someone right in their face. Then why are you paranoid that someone hacked into your group in the first place.

The more i read what you said about people hacking into the pantagon computer and that it would be easy to hack into your group if someone wanted to. Yes that is true but the hacking into the pantagone is another thing. People could turn the united states upside down. It'S way more rewarding that hacking into Kasamba Uptopia. I can see why you are SUPPOSELY on Disabelity benefit just by reading what you wrote right there.


As far as that poor client that is supposely stalking a young girl. It seems to me that you are putting all your little life problems on that poor client. I donT know who is that client. Like HE IS responsible for what is Happening right now into your life. Your OWN actions brought you to the situation where your are right now about being exposed. As for me i am not stalking anyone I work and when i am not working you can find me bowling as a sport or playing society games with family and other family friends. No not child games but adult society games. If not that i listen to a lot of music and watch a little of tv. You always talk about being a stalking victim and people making threats to you and how your clients are stalker. That people have no proof of what they say but then you turn around and do the exact same thing. You stalk people and make threats to them.

AND my rant about SHoshone and you Robind Bluedragon. I never said that you were SHoshone but she is certainly part of your little group. You share clients and also she follow your price range of 4.99$ to 6.99$


It would not surprise me that i would be accused of being Janice Duff. He always talk
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#11 Consumer Comment

WELL WELL WELL

AUTHOR: Misterpsycho - (Canada)

So now i am being accused of having hacked into kasamba uptopia private forum on msn and that i also have access to the expert forum on liveperson.

I am sorry to break it to you but i did not hack into your forum. In fact i would not even know how. I just don'T see why i would even hack into that group. SOmehow i feel that you think you are too important and are way too much full of yourself. If their is a mule in your group it isn't me. You seem lile a stalker making threats to me hoping i would just disapear. If you have nothing to hide and that you don'T say anything in it that you would not say to someone right in their face. Then why are you paranoid that someone hacked into your group in the first place.

The more i read what you said about people hacking into the pantagon computer and that it would be easy to hack into your group if someone wanted to. Yes that is true but the hacking into the pantagone is another thing. People could turn the united states upside down. It'S way more rewarding that hacking into Kasamba Uptopia. I can see why you are SUPPOSELY on Disabelity benefit just by reading what you wrote right there.


As far as that poor client that is supposely stalking a young girl. It seems to me that you are putting all your little life problems on that poor client. I donT know who is that client. Like HE IS responsible for what is Happening right now into your life. Your OWN actions brought you to the situation where your are right now about being exposed. As for me i am not stalking anyone I work and when i am not working you can find me bowling as a sport or playing society games with family and other family friends. No not child games but adult society games. If not that i listen to a lot of music and watch a little of tv. You always talk about being a stalking victim and people making threats to you and how your clients are stalker. That people have no proof of what they say but then you turn around and do the exact same thing. You stalk people and make threats to them.

AND my rant about SHoshone and you Robind Bluedragon. I never said that you were SHoshone but she is certainly part of your little group. You share clients and also she follow your price range of 4.99$ to 6.99$


It would not surprise me that i would be accused of being Janice Duff. He always talk
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#12 Consumer Comment

WELL WELL WELL

AUTHOR: Misterpsycho - (Canada)

So now i am being accused of having hacked into kasamba uptopia private forum on msn and that i also have access to the expert forum on liveperson.

I am sorry to break it to you but i did not hack into your forum. In fact i would not even know how. I just don'T see why i would even hack into that group. SOmehow i feel that you think you are too important and are way too much full of yourself. If their is a mule in your group it isn't me. You seem lile a stalker making threats to me hoping i would just disapear. If you have nothing to hide and that you don'T say anything in it that you would not say to someone right in their face. Then why are you paranoid that someone hacked into your group in the first place.

The more i read what you said about people hacking into the pantagon computer and that it would be easy to hack into your group if someone wanted to. Yes that is true but the hacking into the pantagone is another thing. People could turn the united states upside down. It'S way more rewarding that hacking into Kasamba Uptopia. I can see why you are SUPPOSELY on Disabelity benefit just by reading what you wrote right there.


As far as that poor client that is supposely stalking a young girl. It seems to me that you are putting all your little life problems on that poor client. I donT know who is that client. Like HE IS responsible for what is Happening right now into your life. Your OWN actions brought you to the situation where your are right now about being exposed. As for me i am not stalking anyone I work and when i am not working you can find me bowling as a sport or playing society games with family and other family friends. No not child games but adult society games. If not that i listen to a lot of music and watch a little of tv. You always talk about being a stalking victim and people making threats to you and how your clients are stalker. That people have no proof of what they say but then you turn around and do the exact same thing. You stalk people and make threats to them.

AND my rant about SHoshone and you Robind Bluedragon. I never said that you were SHoshone but she is certainly part of your little group. You share clients and also she follow your price range of 4.99$ to 6.99$


It would not surprise me that i would be accused of being Janice Duff. He always talk
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ANYBODY CAN WRITE A PRESS RELEASE OR A CRITICISM BUT IT DOES NOT MAKE A LYING FAKER THE REAL DEAL

AUTHOR: Erik - (U.S.A.)

Prove to me and anyone else I wrote one false word...prove it,dont allege it. If you do that I will change it.

...as for Mr Psychos rant ( such an apt name he chose himself dont you think? Fits him well....)...I havent even heard of some of those people,and sure arent them. I have ONE account on LP,same as always. Write them and ask them if you want to,doesnt scare me. I stay busy enough with one account and a family to raise. And Shoshone is certainly not me either,though she is a well respected and ethical reader on the site.

Yall arent tackling the scammers,you are tackling the ones who try to help people. If you want to go after scammers,I suggest you go for the fake doctors in the psychic catagory and the ones who posed as women but were really men....they ripped people off for 100s of 1000s of dollars,thanks to LPs allowing them amnesty because of their ethnicity. Take that up with LP and see if you can change that...do some good and stop attacking innocent people who want to help others!

I will pray for you all. Some more then others. And I am ordained,and not in the church of satan,you poor deluded person...thats more your territory.
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#14 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Yo Robin make up yo mind!

AUTHOR: Lil Momma - (U.S.A.)

So check it, you say there ain't no proof that post is from KU. Then yo say you know who the mole iz. Props on the validation there Robin.

Check it, when a new client rings yo up and tell ya personal 411 out of hire mode then its ethical for you to post that on rip off report? Datz what I thought. What clients are you talking about that know you? You've sunk yourself and pointin the finga at scammers don't do no good. You did this all just fine on your own. Ethical muh azz!
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#15 UPDATE Employee

re:Ethical Robin just broke the code

AUTHOR: Erik - (U.S.A.)

How and where did I break anything? My god,you people could find flaws in Jesus! (which I am NOT). There is no proof that came from Ku or anywhere else. It does tell me who wrote this though,and they can lie all they want to. My clients know the truth about my work,and you people dont know jack about it,or about me,or apparently about your own lives if you have them. This abuse from this site has crossed over into being a hate crime for whatever reason.And a stalker thing too,I think...
There has still not been one bit of proof shown to any allegation from any of you people...not one session number,nothing verifiable at all.
I am not Shoshone,Stormgirl Blue,or anyone else ( and have the testicles to prove that if you want to see them...)..and have used the same picture since they made us put our pictures up and the same name since day one...if I was a scammer I would have changed names and stuff over and over like the other cons do.
You people dont want to tackle the real scammers..those who were gender bendrs and fooled you posing as women when they were men,changed names 100 times,fake doctors,or any of that scamming. You only seem to attack people who want the best for you,the client...which shows why so many of you have issues. Also I know many of you are readers on the site,and anyone with half a brain who reads back through the threads can tell that too...too much insider info.
And the fact that any of you are more concerend about what I may or may not have done ( Mr Psycho came to my private on line chat and talked about his suituation out of hire,so I dont feel there is any confidentiality broken,and even if there were,this young ladies life and safety are more important to me anyway) rather then this poor underaged girl he has stalked for 4 years,well,you need psychological help and a new sense of priorities. I am hoping this poor child doesnt get raped or killed,and you are worried about allegations I did something I didnt...get a life.
Oh and KU isnt hurting at all now that I know who the mole is...but like all the groups on MSN ( gee maybe they are all scams too!) will be shutting down. thats doesnt mean we are going away though,because LP is still not a clean site and that is our goal. KU has and will continue to be about stopping scammers,supporting each other in the group and trying to show that some of us can be honest and ethical. But then its apparent from all the posts on RoR that most of you want the scammers more then the truth anyway....
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#16 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Ethical Robin just broke the code

AUTHOR: Lil Momma - (U.S.A.)

If that information is correct about Psycho and this person came to Robin as a client ten you jus broke any the confidentiality and proved himself to be very unethical. If this information came from the KU group then it also proves that they share information. KU looks like it's falling apart just like Janice's group. Those morons at ror DO have an ear inside the group. Look wut Robin dropped at KU!!

From: robinbluedragon Sent: 29/01/2009 7:39 PM
There isnt anything to be 'uncomfortable' about..I and Nicola have both verified it is him. We are moving shortly anyway...and I dont believe that anyone of those morons from RoR have an inside ear in this group anyway...Not ONCE have they ever shown anything of merit or value from here, and even if they did have omeone,eventually it would come out as it always does,and then wouldnt that person look bad. Sometimes we allow a little too much paranoia I think,and I am as responsible for that as anyone. No group is safe when someone really wants to get in...people have hacked the pentagon and NORAD computers,hacking one of ours wouldnt even be a challange. But I dont think it would be worth the effort...I certainly dont say anything I wouldnt tell someone to their face,and have nothing to hide. There isnt one wrong thing with anything we do here,never has been.
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#17 UPDATE Employee

Mr Psycho still stalking minor girls on PB at Liveperson

AUTHOR: Erik - (U.S.A.)

He has been doing this to one young lady for 4 years...she was 12 when he started this sick and disgusting behaviour,he was 28. many readers have talked to him and tried to get him to leave the girl alone,but he wont..his perversion is strong,and he wants her badly. Her folks have tried dealing with him politely because he is,mm,challanged and not right in the head,but he doesnt try to change...and now I see he attacks them here in this pathetic forum...what a man he is,huh?

Mr Psycho,please leave that poor girl alone,get the mental health help you need,or eventually you are going to jail,and then prison,where I am sure a sweetie like you will make lots of new friends.
Attack me all you like,because a spineless wimp like you wouldnt ever have the testicular fortitude to do so face to face...but please,stop stalking and scaring that poor little girl. She doesnt deserve it,and should be left alone!
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Mr Psycho still stalking minor girls on PB at Liveperson

AUTHOR: Erik - (U.S.A.)

He has been doing this to one young lady for 4 years...she was 12 when he started this sick and disgusting behaviour,he was 28. many readers have talked to him and tried to get him to leave the girl alone,but he wont..his perversion is strong,and he wants her badly. Her folks have tried dealing with him politely because he is,mm,challanged and not right in the head,but he doesnt try to change...and now I see he attacks them here in this pathetic forum...what a man he is,huh?

Mr Psycho,please leave that poor girl alone,get the mental health help you need,or eventually you are going to jail,and then prison,where I am sure a sweetie like you will make lots of new friends.
Attack me all you like,because a spineless wimp like you wouldnt ever have the testicular fortitude to do so face to face...but please,stop stalking and scaring that poor little girl. She doesnt deserve it,and should be left alone!
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#19 Consumer Comment

to Misterpsycho and Joe and others regarding Liveperson and kasamba and keen

AUTHOR: Jackie - (U.S.A.)

Yes it is easy to rip people off and con them. Yes the liveperson site IS full of fake psychics.

Padding ratings is easy. But not as you think. The liveperson system says that an expert must spend $10 for the rating to show up for another expert. Instead the psychics create multiple client accounts. With two computers they call themselves and spend $1 for the 5 star rating to count. On one computer they are a client account and on the other computer they are an expert account. They put the money back in their own pocket except for what liveperson take.

Or they call each other using the client account and again only spend $1. Some psychics also have multiple expert accounts with multiple computers so they can amaze clients with how much they know because the client has already been to their other expert name. Some brag on wahm and in KU about the multiple computer scam. Some change their expert name regularly like mitsy when the identity has been exposed as a fraud on ripoffreport.

Anyone can join wahm and see what the fake psychics talk about. You can even pretend to be a psychic and get them to admit things to you in an instant message. Fake psychics are not smart people.

You can also join the weakguyonkasamba group at yahoo. The strange name is because the group is led by crazy Janice Duffy. I suggest joining only so you can read the stupid comments from these desperate women who are searching for a real psychic on liveperson. They are addicted to readings and are clueless.

The only way to not be ripped off is to not use services like keen or liveperson. With today's economy it is irresponsible and moronic to throw your money away like that. You are better off going to las vegas where at least you have a chance to win some of it back and vegas is lots more fun than psychic predictions that never come true.
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#20 Consumer Comment

ANYBODY CAN WRITE A PRESS RELEASE OR A CRITICISM BUT IT DOES NOT MAKE A LYING FAKER THE REAL DEAL

AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)

THIS GUY IS A FAKE NO MATTER WHAT THE LIARS WRITE ABOUT HIM.
HOW NAIVE AND CRAZY IS THIS TO BELIEVE THAT SOMEONE IS A PSYCHIC BECAUSE SOMEONE SAYS HE IS. WHEN THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A PSYCHIC ANYWAY.NOT HERE.

IF THIS GUY IS ORDAINED AT ALL IT IS PROBABLY WITH THE CHURCH OF SATAN OR THE CHURCH OF RIP OFF.

WHAT A BUNCH OF BULLSTUFF THIS IS!

HOW COULD ANYBODY FALL FOR THESE LIES AND NONSENSE.

THIS ENTIRE THING IS A RIP-OFF!
NOT REAL.
LIES. SCAM.

DISGUSTING THAT THAT THERE ARE IGNORANT,UNINFORMED, STUPID, GULLIBLE AND PEOPLE DESPERATE ENOUGH TO TRY TO TALK TO THESE SCUMBAGS WHO ARE PRETENDING TO BE PSYCHICS.
I HOPE THE PEOPLE WHO DREAMED UP THIS SCAM ALL ROT IN HELL.
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#21 Consumer Comment

The clown did his job

AUTHOR: Augusta - (U.S.A.)

Actually paying a clown to make you laugh and he did - then he did his job. Hiring a psychic with an extensive bio claiming certain skills and "degrees" and then it is all hokum for a high price - then I'd say you were ripped off. The readers on LP do not claim to be "for entertainment only"...they claim to have certain clair skills with many years of experience..they do not end their reads with any caveat of entertainment nor say "hey wasn't this funny?" The LP sites have them listed under Spirituality right next to doctors and computer programmers, and I do not feel spirituality means funny or entertaining. That disclaimer may appear somewhere in fine print - however it is a legal thing to cover their arses. It is not what they claim in reality.
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#22 Consumer Comment

oh grow up!!

AUTHOR: Inspector - (U.S.A.)

These sites are for entertainment purposes and psychics, wizards, fortune tellers, are all entertainers. I hate to be the one to break it to you but, you have been entertained, and judging by your long winded comment, I'd say you were entertained well.

To call them fake is paramount to hiring a clown to make you laugh and afterwards refusing payment and calling the clown a fake because you judged the clown to be laughably silly.

Grow up.
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#23 Consumer Comment

oh grow up!!

AUTHOR: Inspector - (U.S.A.)

These sites are for entertainment purposes and psychics, wizards, fortune tellers, are all entertainers. I hate to be the one to break it to you but, you have been entertained, and judging by your long winded comment, I'd say you were entertained well.

To call them fake is paramount to hiring a clown to make you laugh and afterwards refusing payment and calling the clown a fake because you judged the clown to be laughably silly.

Grow up.
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#24 Consumer Comment

oh grow up!!

AUTHOR: Inspector - (U.S.A.)

These sites are for entertainment purposes and psychics, wizards, fortune tellers, are all entertainers. I hate to be the one to break it to you but, you have been entertained, and judging by your long winded comment, I'd say you were entertained well.

To call them fake is paramount to hiring a clown to make you laugh and afterwards refusing payment and calling the clown a fake because you judged the clown to be laughably silly.

Grow up.
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#25 Consumer Comment

oh grow up!!

AUTHOR: Inspector - (U.S.A.)

These sites are for entertainment purposes and psychics, wizards, fortune tellers, are all entertainers. I hate to be the one to break it to you but, you have been entertained, and judging by your long winded comment, I'd say you were entertained well.

To call them fake is paramount to hiring a clown to make you laugh and afterwards refusing payment and calling the clown a fake because you judged the clown to be laughably silly.

Grow up.
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#26 Consumer Comment

Robin bluedragon, Soshone, Stormgirlblue Opening clients accounts and expert accounts.

AUTHOR: Misterpsycho - (Canada)

Hi,



shoshone is Robin bluedragon. If you notice when Robin bluedragon is online shoshone is offline. ANd when shoshone is online bluedragon is offline. shoshone boost her ratings by opening other clients and experts account for the purpose of rating himself. Now i will prove to you that Kasamba Uptopia is opening experts accounts in other category as well as clients account for the purpose of rating themself and thoe of teir group. They really need a hobby. Our hearts are breaking for them right now.
Oh don'T be fooled StromGirlblue is an expert from Kasamba Uptopia as well.


Let's look at Shoshone so called clients.

"normalynn" a client that strangely only rated shoshone , robin bluedragon and another high ranked expert nomed Karen. Karen could that be Janice stalker ???

"toffenuts" strangely that client only rated shoshone multiple times.

"Mary Margarate" is a expert account opened by shoshone in the health and medecine category just for the purpose of rating herself and if you look at the only rating that account has wow it's a client that goes to Robin bluedragon big surprise.

"TracyG" is an expert account opened in the real eastate category still no client

"Aileen" well it's the psychic expert called Aileen who also rate robin bluedragon by the way

"ROBOBBIE" client. that cleint

"Adanda" is strangely a client that only rated Shoshone multiple time strange when most client claim they tried all the expert on liveperson why so many would only stuck to her and kasamba uptopia member.

"ms indy" goes to other high ranked member Zhohara and Alexandra.

"Angie Cameron" is yet another account opened by Shoshone in the international communication category this time.

"MOnkey" this is advisor Hannah Mitchell fake client name for the purpose of rating he r friends and her multiple accounts.

I can go on and on like this. She is a good friend with Advisor Hannah Mitchel who mind you have a lot of accountsRecently she wiished Shoshone real call instead of her having to rate herself. If you want to know what account belong to Advisor Hannah Mitchell look up the client named "MOnkey" that is a client account of advisor Hannah Mitchel


As far as robin bluedragon goes he opened up a new account called Halows glow in the psychic category beware.
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#27 Consumer Comment

thanks a lot

AUTHOR: Misterpsycho - (Canada)

Just want to add that robin bluedragon also goes by the name "shoshone" another account the same game. replying on the public board post with nasty remarks and then quickly decline so the client can't answer back. Reallly this mean is a psycho who the hell would want to control a website and loose his wife over it.


Please let his name be know then get over to Thinker Bell and his fake group of tarot reader.
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