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Complaint Review: Roman Vaughn, Iron Cross Kennels

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  • Submitted: Tue, December 29, 2009
  • Updated: Wed, June 29, 2011

  • Reported By: Paul Wilson — California United States of America
Roman Vaughn, Iron Cross Kennels
Internet, California United States of America

Roman Vaughn - Iron Cross Kennels - Ickunderground.yuku.com - IronCrossKennels.com, Iron Cross Pitbulls scammer, stole deposit, dogs on steroids, mixed breed dogs(presa/pits), unsanitary, Lies about stats Internet

*Consumer Comment: Okey...

*Consumer Comment: Very good

*Consumer Comment: U aint doing it right if u dont have haters!

*Consumer Comment: Believe the Report and Beware of ROman Vaughn

*General Comment: Rip offs...

*General Comment: If ICK is

*Consumer Comment: Where's The Proof?

*Consumer Comment: Grateful to Roman! A satisfied customer!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Just not true.

*Consumer Comment: False Report

*Consumer Comment: Another satisfied Iron Cross puppy owner

*Consumer Comment: Roman has done good business with me. Stop Lying.

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I just want the world to know the truth about the fake a*****e scammer of a  Pitbull breeder named Roman Vaughn from Iron Cross Kennels , Iron Cross Kennels, (WWW.IRONCROSSKENNELS.COM),  and his idiotic side kick Nick.  When I first visited the Iron cross Kennels website, I was impressed by the pictures of the dogs, as well as the quality of the website.  I had never seen pitbulls that looked like those.  I contacted Roman Vaughn of Iron Cross Kennels initially through email.  Roman  did not respond to my email, so I called him up.

He told me about an incredible breeding he had going with a large female named Mazeratti and his dogs Stalefish and Disciple.  Roman was so desperate for this breeding to happen he had been letting both of his studs Disciple and Stalefish breed to Mazeratti while she was in heat.  Weird!  (She still did not take because of the steroids he had given her.) I told him I was very interested in his Iron Cross Kennels bloodline and wanted to purchase a puppy from the Mazeratti Breeding.  Roman Vaughn gave me an address to send a $2000.00 deposit to.  My wife thought I was crazy for sending a $2000.00 deposit to a kennel who was already listed on Ripoff Report by other people who had been taken advantage of.  Roman Vaughn insured me that Iron Cross Kennels does good business, and that the other Rip Off Report had been put there by jealous breeders.  LOL, YEAH RIGHT.  So I sent the 2000, 00. Dollar money order to Roman Vaughn and scheduled a trip where I could visit Iron Cross Kennels.  I was very excited.  

When I went to visit Iron Cross Kennels, I wasnt impressed AT ALL.  Roman and Iron Cross Kennels are located in Southern California  at the top of a filthy hill.  Roman lives in a shabby little shack at the top of the hill.  Almost like a trailer.  Everything about this set-up screamed Trailer Trash Kennels.   Speaking of kennels, although I did see some kennels, there were no dogs in them.  Roman was keeping ALL of his dogs in very small crates.  The type of crate that you use when taking dogs to the Airport.  They looked miserable.  It was some of the worst conditions I have ever seen dogs kept in.  I felt really sad for these animals.  I have contacted animal control about this issue.  There was this guy named Nick there, and he was running around doing everything Roman told him to, like some sort of a  man servant. That really tripped me out.  Nick kept telling me how great the ICK blood line was,and that the other kennels could not compete with Iron Cross Kennels.   That got extremely annoying very quickly. Roman eventually told him to shut up, and Nick happily complied.  That was a blessing. They showed me a dog called Disciple who was semi impressive, although his crate was so tiny I couldnt believe a dog his size could fit in it. How sad.  They showed me the female Mazeratti who was semi impressive as well, (although not nearly as large as they claimed on their website. )  They then showed me a dog named Stalefish, who was definitely mixed with Presa Canario.  (I should know I have been breeding Presa Canarios for the last 6 years.)   Everything about Stalefish screamed Presa Canario, his markings, his stance, his walk, and his structure.  I told Roman this as well, and Roman himself said that it was rumored that his father Escalade, was a Presa Canario, but that he did not believe it.  B******T!  It was obvious as h***.  Stalefish had every Presa trait in the book!!
  Roman Vaughn must know how to take really good pictures because his dogs were no where near as impressive in person.  At this point I told Roman I was not comfortable with doing business with him, and requested a refund of my 2000.00 dollars.  Roman told me that Iron Cross Kennels deposits are transferable to another breeding but not refundable.  Hey the rules are the rules so I agreed, and left.

Roman later called me and told me that the Mazeratti breeding did not take.  (BIG SURPRISE< THATS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU GIVE THEM STEROIDS, EVEN 2 STUDS COULD NOT GET THE JOB DONE), He then told me I could have a puppy from a Stalefish breeding .  Stalefish looked like a presa canario when I saw him in person.  What Roman did not know is that I have been breeding Presa canarios for the last 6 years.  I know a Presa or a Pitbull/Presa mix when I see one.  Especially one this obvious.  No other dog has those markings but a Presa Canario. DUH!!!!  Stalefish could enter a Presa Canario competition right now and no one would question him. LOL.  I told Roman just keep my money, I do not want a Presa/Pitbull mix.

After doing some research by talking to people/kennels that had done business with Roman, and bought dogs from him, I began to learn the terrible truth.  Roman Vaugh and Iron Cross Kennels have been giving their dogs steroids and mixing breeds. This is why he deleted all of the other kennels from his links page.
Here are the facts I learned about Roman Vaughn and Iron Cross Kennels.

The female that I was interested in Mazeratti was unable to have pups because the massive amount of steroids Roman had been given her so that she can achieve her size. 

Mazeratti also suffers from a prolapsed uterus.  Roman already had tried to breed her three times and it never worked because of the steroids and the prolapsed uterus.  He knew this breeding with Mazeratti would not work when he took my 2,000.00 deposit

Disciple is on steroids, and his stats on the website are false.  Most of Disciple daughters cannot be bred and suffer from a prolapsed Uterus.

Roman Vaughn keeps most of his dogs on steroids.

Most of Iron Cross Kennels dogs are kept in very tiny unsanitary kennels. FILTHY!!!!
Iron Cross Kennels accepts deposits on breedings they know will not take!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Roman Vaughn and Iron Cross Kennels are now basing their kennel on a dog STALEFISH that is obviously  mixed with a Presa Canario, but on his website, www.ironcrosskennels.com he claims he does not mix breeds to get size.  HAHAHAHA!!!!

The other male that he produced is called Moran, and he is a Presa as you can get as well. 

Moran does not even look mixed, he just looks like a pure Presa.  Any Presa Canario Breeder would agree after they have saw Stalefish and Moran.  Do your research guys, its obvious. Like really really obvious!

Roman Vaughn, Iron Cross Kennels is a liar and a scam artist   BEWARE!!

It wasnt worth the 2000 he stole from me so I let him keep it

Hey Roman if I dont need a Presa, I already have a backyard full of them you dumb ass lying inbred skinhead p***k!!

I am not surprised that Roman Vaughns name was on the muglestons pitbull site endorsing them because he is a scammer just like them. Here is the link:

(((Redacted)))

He must have learned how to do business from the muglestons as well. 

Hey  if you would like to buy an expensive  mixed presa/pit from a trashy trailer park type of guy that lies About everything on his website, DOESNT TAKE CARE OF HIS DOGS, GIVES THEM STEROIDS and RIPS YOU OFF;  THEN I RECOMMEND ROMAN VAUGHN OF IRON CROSS  KENNELS.

WWW.IRONCROSSKENNELS.COM


Here is Roman Vaughns information, BEWARE

Cell: 909-379-2662

WWW.IRONCROSSKENNELS.COM



IRONCROSSKENNELS@YAHOO.COM


Call to get lied to and a PIT/Presa mixed dog today!


Thanks for everything Roman Enjoy my money you scamming scumbag!!



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#1 Consumer Comment

Okey...

AUTHOR: Xtrilho - (Netherlands)

Pitbulls can have different colors but one thing does not make them pure in the eyes colors. Which ones are?
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#2 Consumer Comment

Very good

AUTHOR: Xtrilho - (Netherlands)

Hey Paul I've been reading what you write about Roman Vaughn and his dogs and it's true what you say about that. I've been looking several times in Stalefish, Morgan, Escalade, and I must say these dogs are based on pure strains of Presa Canario, no doubt of it. So I need to talk to you about someone who is doing the same thing that Roman Vaughn did. You have a private email or some way for us to talk about this subject? Thanks.
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#3 Consumer Comment

U aint doing it right if u dont have haters!

AUTHOR: O''so Nice Kennels - (United States of America)

man i dont know what ICK been doing lately but i can vouch for two monsters here in VA ICK Canyon & Ick Arcadia both with heads at 26" combined weight of over 250lbs with litters on the ground & dont forget bout ICK Osiris the super producer hes in VA as well. All of which r monsters super cut no health problems so where all this bull stuff coming from? HATERS..... while i dont believe all the stats to be accurate on his site they r not far off if at all. And another thing how u claim the man live in a trailer and then say he got ten + 100lb dogs living in it in travel crates he must know the secret to packing sardines by hand. Be serious man and the reason he took his own links off would be obvious if u thought like a stand up man....... maybe so the other kennels didnt get dragged thru the mud by bottom feeders like u out to get him. As for being banned from ukc i seem to remember another bloodline that went thru a similar ordeal RAZORS EDGE had to register with adba most of their early years due to UKC standard before it was realized how vast and variant the pitbull breed is so unless ur sporting a 100% colby dog which i doubt u r then u ur self have no idea what the original pit bull looks like.....and for u to say no pit has the markings of ICK Stalefish is simply ignorant a pit can be any color except one and i challenge ur retarded self to even know it 
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#4 Consumer Comment

Believe the Report and Beware of ROman Vaughn

AUTHOR: Carlos - (United States of America)

Roman Vaughn blatantly lied about size and stats on his dogs on the websites. I know for a fact because I have seen his dogs in person. He misconstrued the truth of everything. He has been banned from the UKC and ABKC for paper hanging(lied about the parents of the pups) which has turned his former clients into lawsuits. Now, last we have heard he is on a mission to create a BANDOGGE which is a mixed breed dog, in hopes of making his own breed so he can once again register dogs in a respectable registry.

All that has happened to this man and business was of his own doing. He lied, cheated and stole from customers. Roman Never stuck with his contract or word. I would recommend to avoid anyone who was working with this man with in the last 3 years.

Roman bred his dogs to a Presa Canario, knowing it was a Presa with pitbull papers. When confronted about why he did the breeding he responded with "The people want the biggest pitbull, so why not give it to them." When asked if he was going to keep anything from the breeding, his response was "No why would I want one of those?" Then when his customers pumped up the reputation of the mixed breed dogs they received, he decided to breed another one his females to the Presa and this time keep one. The dog he kept is named Stalefish. Another dog to avoid is Morran, another mixed breed dog produced by Roman and owned by ALabama Iron Kennels(The Iron cross Kennels of the east)Both Morran and Stalefish are 50% Presa, if you like pitbulls I would stay away from these animals as much as possible if you planned on getting a pitbull pup. Do your research and find some one who is a reputable breeder.

Where there is smoke, there normally is a fire close by.

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#5 General Comment

Rip offs...

AUTHOR: TheTruth - (United States of America)

Its funny how everyone keeps saying they got dogs over a year ago from him but nothing recent. If he is so great why has he changed his website, does not attend shows anymore, and has had his dogs paperwork revoked? Yes  Revoked!! Call the UKC and ask them. So many people have requested DNA testing to prove that the puppy they purchased was really off of his dogs as he claims and yet he will not do the test..Hmm why I wonder, what is he hiding if the pups really are off his dogs?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.ironcrosskennelsliesexposed.com/

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#6 General Comment

If ICK is

AUTHOR: Kristina - (USA)

 such a great kennel and Roman has never mislead anyone, never falsified documents etc then why has the UKC stripped him of his rights to register his dogs with them? Why is ICK out of business?

sorry but there has to be some truth to EVERY complaint listed about him here and elsewhere. KCs don't pull privileges and kennels don't shut down on just gossip and BS
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#7 Consumer Comment

Where's The Proof?

AUTHOR: Megladon - (United States of America)

I purchased a puppy from Iron Cross Kennels a couple of years ago. I was nervous about sending my deposit too, but I was fully aware that deposits were non-refundable, but transferable to other breedings. It states that clearly on his site. When I went to pick up my puppy from ICK I was impressed by Roman's set up. All the dogs had plenty of food, water, sun, shade, and room to be confortable in their kennels. Some dogs were not in their kennels when I visited. They were out running around the property getting some good excercise. The dogs were impressive too. You'll have to see an ICK dog to know what I mean. Pictures can't capture everything, therefore don't do his dogs justice. 

If you really think about it, anyone can get on here and write just about anything about another person/company. I'd like to know where is the proof. This guy is claiming this & that, but has no proof. Roman would NEVER give his dogs steroids, mix breeds, or let another stud mate with a bitch, while advertising another dog as the stud of the litter.

There are many other kennels out there that are jealous of Roman (ICK). Think about it......if someone from another kennel can write a bad report about Iron Cross Kennels it could possible hurt Roman's business. If less people are buying ICK dogs then other kennels will probably get those customers. Basically "don't buy from him because of such & such.....instead buy from me" type of stuff. 

The bottom line is......don't believe everything you read. Anyone can get on this site and write just about anything. I encourage people to contact Roman and got out to ICK for yourself. Come to your own conclusions from your own experiences, instead of believing Paul Wilson.
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#8 Consumer Comment

Grateful to Roman! A satisfied customer!

AUTHOR: Heather - LTK - (United States of America)

I am writing in response to the complaint writting about Roman Vaughn and Iron Cross Kennels.  I have had several dealings with Roman and been to his place several times.  I too mailed a deposit before I knew Roman or "The Game". I too went to his place to pick up my Pit Bull pup.

That was 2 years ago and I have remained in contact with Roman throughout all this time.  He has always been there for every newbie question I had and I know that Roman is extremely extremely busy. 

I am beyond happy with my pit bull female, Sakura!  I get sooo many compliments on her it almost get annoying taking her out in public.  Our vet knew immediately when she saw her that she was a pit bull.  Never has anyone asked me if she was a presa!  Guess what...my girl is FULL LITTER MATE to Morran, the dog that was mentioned in the complaint as being a presa/pit mix.  She now has her 2nd litter on the ground.  All her pups have turned out beautiful, healthy, and correct!

Each time I went to Roman's place his dogs were well taken care of and had nice clean, spacious kennels with a set-up for easy cleaning, a misting system, shelter within the kennel, etc.  It was obvious to me that Roman spent a lot of time, energy, and money making sure his dogs have the best care.  His yard is spacious which allows for the dogs to have room to run around on a regular basis.  Which is something many many breeders lack unfortunately.

All of Roman's pits that I saw were very impressive in person, especially Disciple.  Its not just camera tricks!!  I can personally vouch for that!

When my family ran in to some personal issues and we were not able to care for Sakura's first litter, Roman volunteered to take Sakura and her entire litter until we got things under control. He promoted the breeding as well and didn't take much of a cut for himself and sent us the money as soon as he got it from the buyers.  Which I think is a real stand up move for a guy that has his own family, dogs, and business to take care of.  I will alway be grateful for that!

The fact that the complainer mentioned ickunderground.yuku in his complaint is a huge flag that this guy is a jealous competitor breeder who is choosing to muddy Roman's name to get ahead instead of standing by his own dogs to get ahead. 

The ICK Underground is really only known by other breeders as a network to help each other out...guess he chose to use his invitation as a dirty back-handed way to hurt Roman.  Talk about misusing trust!

By the way, never ever have I heard or thought that any dogs Roman, or any other breeder's dog associated with Roman, being on steroids!  Pits are ripped by nature, or atleast they should be.  With all the room that Roman has for them to run, play, and get exercize, no wonder why his dogs look robust.

Hey, complainer, if your dogs look flabby, get them some exercize.  Pits are not meants to be caged up all the time, they are a working canine breed. They enjoy being active!

I welcome any questions anyone has about Roman, Iron Cross Kennels, or the quality of the ICK bloodline!

hlblocker@gmail.com

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#9 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Just not true.

AUTHOR: Tricia - (United States of America)

I know Roman Vaughn and have visited in his home and lived in his neighborhood. He has a very nice home and takes good care of his dogs. I don't know what this is all about but this guy is simply not telling the truth.
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#10 Consumer Comment

False Report

AUTHOR: Liam McDonald - (United States of America)

I can account for this report ss a consumer myself from an Iron cross production to be a false report. I contacted Roman from Iron cross kennels about purchasing a pitbull puppy. Being from Australia where BSL on pits is out of control I could never own one until moving to the states. Through doing my research, and alot of it, I came across a male named "Disciple".

Although Roman had some amazingly LARGE pup's that has just been born I told him that I would rather wait for a Disciple pup. It just so happened that a guy had a female from a Kennel unconnected to his Kennel who had a litter of Disciple pups and referred me to him. He keeps his customers happy even if it means sending business elsewhere!

Roman is a top guy. True to his word and to his friends until he has reason not to... this person is obviously one of those people ... If you want to find out what the man is like and how he does business pick up the phone and call him otherwise email me your number and I will myself make a call and I'll speak to you in person.

kindest regards
Liam M
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#11 Consumer Comment

Another satisfied Iron Cross puppy owner

AUTHOR: Shockerline Pitbulls - (United States of America)

I have been to Iron Cross Kennels and can personally vouch for his incredible kennels and impressive canine facility. I have been doing with Roman for years and always been satisfied with the quality of his bloodline and pups produced. He is always available whenever I call with questions regarding our dogs or just to simply see that everything has been going well. I have also seen his dogs and knowing about the other breeds have ever seen another breed dog in his yard nor would he would ever knowingly breed a mixed breed dog for just the sake of gaining size. He has dogs that have been producing dogs bigger than most other kennels without mixing the breeds. It's to bad this fake named coward would post something just to harm someones business in spite of there own failure. I vouch for Iron Cross and will continue to business as usual. Feel free to contact me if anyone has any ?s.

 Shockerline Pitbulls

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#12 Consumer Comment

Roman has done good business with me. Stop Lying.

AUTHOR: Andre smith - (U.S.A.)

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I have done business with Roman a couple of times.  I had a good experience with him both times.  I bought my foundation bitch, "Jewelz" from him, and she was everything I hoped for and then some.  I recieved my papers and health certificate soon as I purchased my dog. Roman's facilities were very clean, and his dogs looked impressive in person.  JEWELZ turned out to be one of the best purchases I made

I also used his stud "Disciple".  I was very pleased with the results, Disciple is one of my favorite studs in the XL pitbull game.  My litter with him was incredible.  Again I recieved my papers right when I needed him.  Whoever wrote this crap is a jealous liar, and a shady individual.  Making up lies about someones breeding program is a cowardly act that only a weak individual would do.  Roman runs a top quality operation, and I have seen that first hand. Period.

 

Andre

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