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Complaint Review: Roni Lynn Deutch

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  • Submitted: Tue, December 12, 2006
  • Updated: Mon, December 14, 2009

  • Reported By:Sacramento California
Roni Lynn Deutch
settletax.com Sacramento, California, Nationwide U.S.A.

Roni Lynn Deutch lawyer, tax settlement firm. This woman rakes in millions of dollars while she pays a non-living wage to her employees and by using deceptive selling tactics to manipulate and take advantage of delinquent taxpayers. Sacramento California

*Consumer Comment: Need Help

*Consumer Comment: I was scammed by Roni Lynn Deutch, every report sounds so similar to mine..when will they be put out of business for unethical conduct?

*Consumer Comment: The IRS and effectiveness of bureaucracy

*Consumer Comment: Comments for Nurse

*Consumer Suggestion: Offers in Compromise DO WORK; IF Ms. Deutch was not a woman the author would not be writing this.

*Consumer Suggestion: Offers in Compromise DO WORK; IF Ms. Deutch was not a woman the author would not be writing this.

*Consumer Suggestion: Offers in Compromise DO WORK; IF Ms. Deutch was not a woman the author would not be writing this.

*Consumer Suggestion: Offers in Compromise DO WORK; IF Ms. Deutch was not a woman the author would not be writing this.

*Consumer Comment: The thousands you give to crooks like Ms. Deutch can go towards your tax bill.

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I worked for Roni Deutch for almost 2 years in the legal department.

I read the posting from the 2 brothers that indicated that Roni gave the one brother in the billing department unreported cash for hitting collection goals.

I thought that was funny because on the legal side she gave out cash bonuses 2x a year. These bonuses were given in the form of cashiers checks and not reported on the W2's. The firm did not inform its employees that they needed to report these bonuses and I highly doubt the firm was reporting the payment of these bonuses. I and all other employees receiving these bonuses should have been reporting them as income on our tax returns.

Another thing that the Roni Deutch firm did pay salaries to all employees on purpose. She did this so that she did not have to pay overtime. Although employees were told that they could not work overtime it was essentially required to keep up with the workload expected of you. The average salary on the legal side when I worked there was $25,000 to $30,000. The only people on the legal side that were making any money were the attorneys. I know that LaJuan Wood and Sean ?? were making at least 120K and I have no doubt that Mike Johnson, Matt Ritchie, and Shannon were within or near that same range. They are probably all making at least that much if not more now. I am alomost positive that Greg Flahive was making at least 300K if not more. It makes me wonder what Roni clears a year???

If she brings on approximately 450 client per month and the average fee is approximately 3K then you are looking at $1,350,000. Take away 25% for dropouts or $337,500, another $250,000 for advertising, $400,000 for salaries, and another $100,000 for firm operation fees and I would say that at a minimum she is making approximately 260K per month or roughly 3 Million a year. Pretty nice life for someone who is not on 1 Power of Attorney. The Power of Attorney form is required to represent a taxpayer before the IRS. Roni is not on 1 Power of Attorney form. Therefore Roni does not directly represent 1 client of her firm. She is nothing but a figurehead. The most work she does it the updating of her cheesy commercial which is accomplished within a a day or two in Los Angeles every few years or so.

This woman rakes in millions of dollars while she pays a non-living wage to her employees and by using deceptive selling tactics to manipulate and take advantage of delinquent taxpayers.

I can go on and on. I can tell you stories about how the Initial Client Packets completed by the clients would conveinetly take forever to enter, that when the packets were entered and the client did not qualify for an Offer how it would take several months to send a letter informing the client that they did not qualify, how almost all of the clients were full paid by the time they received such a letter, and how we would explain how they no longer qualified and manipuate them into switching over to having us negotiate an Installment Agreement that they could have done on their own in a 15 minute phone call to the IRS.

There are so many other stories, but I have to go.

I have to give it to her. She has made a killing off of desparate people and she has had to do nothing to make the money!!!!!

Mike
Sacramento, California
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 12/12/2006 09:52 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Roni-Lynn-Deutch/Sacramento-California-Nationwide/Roni-Lynn-Deutch-lawyer-tax-settlement-firm-This-woman-rakes-in-millions-of-dollars-whil-225076. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Need Help

AUTHOR: mark - (United States of America)

Hey Jim,


I have a tax debt that was being paid under an installment plan.  When business plumeted in 2008, I was unable to pay my tax bill in full for the year, which put me in default.   Because my financial situation has drastcially changed since the initial installment agreement, I have filed for an OIC, but it is not going well.  We too had a bad experience with a guy who professed to negotiate a settlement with the IRS and possibly a compromise, which at the time we didn't qualify for. Because of this I decided to file the OIC myself.  I am thinking at this point that I may need to negotiate another payment plan but would like to contact an enrolled agent to do this for me....as I'm about burned out.  Do enrolled agents also work on OIC's, or just negotiating current tax debt?  I see you live in Hillsboro...is that in Oregon?  (We are in Oregon).  Thanks!

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I was scammed by Roni Lynn Deutch, every report sounds so similar to mine..when will they be put out of business for unethical conduct?

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

I called Roni Lynn Deutch to find out my options for settling a payroll tax bill I had from the IRS for about $30,000. I did file a Rip-Off Report on this as well, but I can't believe how many reports there are against this worthless "firm".
In short, the initial phone call I was told by this person, I could go to jail for not paying these taxes, (even though there was no criminal wrongdoing) and that after telling them how much I made a year and my assets, that I was QUALIFIED for the Offer in Comprimise. I was so scammed and didn't know it until 2 years later.
The rest of the story is similar to everyone else. I made monthly payments to them, sent them reams of paperwork, only to have to re do it again in two months when they said they needed more current information, or that it was lost...I kept sending paperwork and paid my bill on time every month. As a matter of fact, the only phone calls I ever received were for payments. I NEVER spoke to a real attorney, even though I asked to repeatedly, there was always an excuse why one wasn't available. after 8 months, the IRS got tired of waiting and decided to garnish my pay. Calls to Ms. Deutch's firm, got a slow response and after 3 weeks, they got the garnishment reduced to $750 a month. This went on for 4 more months, more paperwork, no progress and as my last payment was due, they sent a letter saying I didn't qualify for the OIC, even though my financial situation had remained unchanged. They said they negotiated a payment of $700 a month and my case was closed. I called up furious and spoke to an employee...can't remember his name, may have been Mr. Flahive...who "graciously waived" my last payment. I paid them nearly $3500 dollars and all they did was "negotiate" a payment $50 less than my garnishment! I hung up, called the IRS directly and in 15 minutes had a payment arangement for $500 a month.
I felt so completely used and stupid. a couple years later, I had trouble paying even that monthly payment and defaulted. Instead of going to a sham firm like this, I contacted a local Enrolled Agent. For $300 he negotiated me out of the default, got them to accept another payment plan which I was able to stick to and finally paid off last year. He did more than the RLD firm did in one year. It took him 3 weeks and I only had to meet with him once.
Bottom line is ALL of these tax firms that advertise nationally and claim to settle your debt for "pennies on the dollar" are nothing more than a scam that skirts the law, barely. Save your hard earned money, hire a LOCAL professional if you need to and put this heartless witch out of business. I can't believe, as I typed this, her commercial came on during Judge Judy....I'm changing the channel.
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The IRS and effectiveness of bureaucracy

AUTHOR: Darknowindachau - (U.S.A.)

I think the major issue is to stop looking at the IRS like a business and focus on the fact that it's a public entity with a bureaucracy.. And if you know anything about Public Administration, you know that sometimes, bureaucracy just works (Read Charles T. Goodsell's "The Case For Bureaucracy). The difference is mentioned above: The IRS is willing to compromise, whereas Roni Lynn Deutch is only willing to make profit. The IRS isn't interested in profit - no bureaucracy is (if they were, they would rarely grant 501(c)3 non-profit tax exemption status). They aren't interested in your money, other than what it takes to pay tax.

Another issue: Never, ever, ever, ever, ever take on anyone in court by yourself. If you can contact the IRS and work out a deal, then great. However, if it has to go to court, find a viable tax lawyer - or at least a viable lawyer that can find you a viable tax lawyer. I just finished my undergrad in Political Science: Legal Studies, and all my law classes were taught by J.D.'s (juris doctors, or lawyers). They all agree: The one that represents himself in court has a fool for a client. If you take the IRS to chancery or court on your own, you'll suffer more penalties, and court fees, because a citizen versus a lawyer (as I have seen first-hand) is BRUTAL. Unfortunately, that's as far as my advice can go. I'm now a public administration student, so my law experience is limited. However, I'll end the advice with this: use your common sense. No self-respecting lawyer on the planet is going to finish a J.D. at an average price of $30-$50 k a year for 3 years (sometimes more), and then go to court for "pennies on the dollar." Lawyers are one of the most feared, respected, and hated groups in America. They've earned their clout, and they'll also take their price.

Finally, how much can you really trust a corporation with the majority of their advertisements airing between 1:00-6:00 AM? Think about infomercials and think about the last time you, or someone you know, bought something from a late-night informercial that was worth anything. This doesn't just extend to goods. The same goes for services as well.
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Comments for Nurse

AUTHOR: Tim - (U.S.A.)

Nurse, what the hell are you talking about?

First, Ms. Deutch advertises that she can help you settle your tax debt for pennies on the dollar through an offfer in compromise. You state that offers in compromise "do work."

Your statement wasn't inaccurate, in that offers in compromise do, in fact, work.

The problem is that the IRS actually settles less than 1% of all tax debts through offers in compromise. They are very hard to come by, and you virtually have to be destitute. If you can afford to pay Ms. Deutch's retainers, then you probably don't qualify for an offer in compromise in the first place. Just look for the bulletin on the IRS website regarding agencies such as Deutch's and you'll see the full story.

It all adds up to deceptive advertising. Further, there is voluminous evidence of grossly unreasonable billing. And this reporter, who is an ex-employee, only validated what at least 100 other complaints on this site have already stated.

The problem with the reporter isn't that he was ethically bankrupt and didn't like working for a woman. To the contrary, he couldn't handle the ethical violations that he saw, and wasn't willing to be a part of it for the money he was being paid.

As for the income aspect, I agree with you, Nurse. The non-attorneys shouldn't expect to be making incomes that are comparable to the attorneys. The attorneys are being paid for their knowledge, the clerical and support staff is being paid for their ability to perform routine tasks. Ten to fifteen bucks an hour isn't too bad of a wage for a clerical assistant in a legal office, or even for an unexperienced paralegal.

But that's beside the point. There is concrete evidence showing that Deutch's advertising is deceptive, and volumes of anecdotal evidence showing that her firm charges HEFTY fees, screws up cases, and in the best case scenario, only ends up doing something that the client could have done himself for free.
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#5 Consumer Suggestion

Offers in Compromise DO WORK; IF Ms. Deutch was not a woman the author would not be writing this.

AUTHOR: Nurse - (U.S.A.)

Offers in Compromise do work; and if you get a lawyer it helps. Then there is Tax Court which also works. The problem is that the lawyer's fee may be more than the debt. The lawyer can do it better; but it is a cost benefit analysis. The choice is that of the client's. Remember principles cost money, and do not expect any lawyer to work for free especially for someone that was apparently scamming the IRS.

If Ms. Deutch was not a women the author would not be writing this. Only women get such horrible opinions from disgruntled employees.

This comment was written by a disgruntled and unhappy employee that was fired. Mr. Employee go to school and learn how to make a living to support your family.

Perhaps you got fired because you were screwing up the client's cases.

It takes a lot of money to run an office especially for people like you who were obviously looking for a free ride.

If you do not like your wage, get another job!!!!
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Offers in Compromise DO WORK; IF Ms. Deutch was not a woman the author would not be writing this.

AUTHOR: Nurse - (U.S.A.)

Offers in Compromise do work; and if you get a lawyer it helps. Then there is Tax Court which also works. The problem is that the lawyer's fee may be more than the debt. The lawyer can do it better; but it is a cost benefit analysis. The choice is that of the client's. Remember principles cost money, and do not expect any lawyer to work for free especially for someone that was apparently scamming the IRS.

If Ms. Deutch was not a women the author would not be writing this. Only women get such horrible opinions from disgruntled employees.

This comment was written by a disgruntled and unhappy employee that was fired. Mr. Employee go to school and learn how to make a living to support your family.

Perhaps you got fired because you were screwing up the client's cases.

It takes a lot of money to run an office especially for people like you who were obviously looking for a free ride.

If you do not like your wage, get another job!!!!
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#7 Consumer Suggestion

Offers in Compromise DO WORK; IF Ms. Deutch was not a woman the author would not be writing this.

AUTHOR: Nurse - (U.S.A.)

Offers in Compromise do work; and if you get a lawyer it helps. Then there is Tax Court which also works. The problem is that the lawyer's fee may be more than the debt. The lawyer can do it better; but it is a cost benefit analysis. The choice is that of the client's. Remember principles cost money, and do not expect any lawyer to work for free especially for someone that was apparently scamming the IRS.

If Ms. Deutch was not a women the author would not be writing this. Only women get such horrible opinions from disgruntled employees.

This comment was written by a disgruntled and unhappy employee that was fired. Mr. Employee go to school and learn how to make a living to support your family.

Perhaps you got fired because you were screwing up the client's cases.

It takes a lot of money to run an office especially for people like you who were obviously looking for a free ride.

If you do not like your wage, get another job!!!!
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#8 Consumer Suggestion

Offers in Compromise DO WORK; IF Ms. Deutch was not a woman the author would not be writing this.

AUTHOR: Nurse - (U.S.A.)

Offers in Compromise do work; and if you get a lawyer it helps. Then there is Tax Court which also works. The problem is that the lawyer's fee may be more than the debt. The lawyer can do it better; but it is a cost benefit analysis. The choice is that of the client's. Remember principles cost money, and do not expect any lawyer to work for free especially for someone that was apparently scamming the IRS.

If Ms. Deutch was not a women the author would not be writing this. Only women get such horrible opinions from disgruntled employees.

This comment was written by a disgruntled and unhappy employee that was fired. Mr. Employee go to school and learn how to make a living to support your family.

Perhaps you got fired because you were screwing up the client's cases.

It takes a lot of money to run an office especially for people like you who were obviously looking for a free ride.

If you do not like your wage, get another job!!!!
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#9 Consumer Comment

The thousands you give to crooks like Ms. Deutch can go towards your tax bill.

AUTHOR: Steph - (U.S.A.)

The truth is everyone 99 percent of the time you can work it out yourself with the IRS especially if total debt is under 25,000.

If you are delinquent it's better you call them today then they call you tomorrow.

I used to work for an accountant. He told me this himself and is a former IRS employee.

OIC are rarely accepted in the real world. Payment plans are usually workable and surprisingly doable.

Try it yourself before calling an attorney. Save yourself time and money.

The thousands you give to crooks like Ms. Deutch can go towards your tax bill.

Going to crooks like Ms. Deutch this is what happens.

Let's say you owe 18,000.

You hire her fill out paperwork and send her big money and now you still owe 18,000 and the money you sent this crook could have gone towards that 18000.

My main point is if you're behind it's better to call them and start working it out than wait for them to call you.
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