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  • Submitted: Sat, August 02, 2008
  • Updated: Sat, August 09, 2008

  • Reported By:Pembroke Massachusetts
Route 44 Toyota
1154 New State Highway Raynham, Massachusetts U.S.A.

Route 44 Toyota Belittling sales tactics, told sales and finance 3x NOT to pull credit report, they pulled it 2x!!! Outrageous Doc fees Raynham Massachusetts

*Consumer Comment: Friendly Help,

*Consumer Comment: Mia2000,

*Consumer Comment: Friendly Help,

*Consumer Comment: Friendly Help,

*Consumer Comment: YOUR LIFE COULD BE IN DANGER IF YOU DRIVE A TOYOTA BECAUSE...

*Consumer Comment: YOUR LIFE COULD BE IN DANGER IF YOU DRIVE A TOYOTA BECAUSE...

*Consumer Comment: YOUR LIFE COULD BE IN DANGER IF YOU DRIVE A TOYOTA BECAUSE...

*Consumer Comment: YOUR LIFE COULD BE IN DANGER IF YOU DRIVE A TOYOTA BECAUSE...

*Consumer Comment: I think that ''The Collapse (that) Has been Triggered'' is yours, Karl

*Consumer Comment: YOU MUST ALL REMEMBER THAT TOYOTA IS...

*Author of original report: update

*Author of original report: update

*Author of original report: update

*Author of original report: update

*Author of original report: update

*Consumer Suggestion: It Never Ends, Typical Car Dealer

*Consumer Comment: How did they enough information to pull your credit rating?

*Consumer Suggestion: They Did This To You But You Rewarded Them Anyway?

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I told the saleman I was in the banking business and dealt with over 100 dealers so that I wouldn't have to go through their demeaning sales tactics. They did not listen. I told the saleman and sales manager three times NOT to pull my credit as this was a cash deal. Without my written consent pulled my credit report with two different bureaus. I was outraged to find this out via my credit alert program I have.

When I tried to get some answers on why this was obtained, the finance manager said they had not pulled it. Then he said, "oh ya, I see it was pulled, but I don't know who did it." Assuring me he would get back to me and did not. I sent a registered letter to the owner of the dealership and the GM. Thus far, no return letter.

But I did receive a phone call back from the most arrogant man who tried in a VERY condoscending way to tell me it was because of OFAC they pulled my credit. I told him I was in banking/VP of Lending for 25 years before he went any further with his either lack of knowledge of the OFAC/credit reporting sytem or just down right arrogance. OFAC is pulled by financial institutions to cross check against a terrorist list before LENDING out money. There was no money being lent out in this transaction. As I explained this to the employee, he said "this conversation is over with". Not only was my transaction/experience with this dealer horrible I had my rights violated with having my credit pulled.

This dealership needs to know they cannot just do whatever they please for their own gain (they tried very hard to get me to finance the deal so they could make even more money) and must starting treating their customers like they have a brain.

Mia2000
Pembroke, Massachusetts
U.S.A.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Friendly Help,

AUTHOR: Karl - ()

I believe that another 'collapse' is going to take place in the near future. You can 'Google' this- THE ASCENT OF MONEY PBS, and click on the episode entitled 'Bonds of War' and watch it on the web in order to better understand what will most likely happen in the USA and all over the world. 

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WELCOME TO AMERICA- ONE MASSIVE LIE THAT IS BEING EXPOSED ON THE INTERNET EVERY DAY
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#2 Consumer Comment

Mia2000,

AUTHOR: Karl - ()

It appears that you have to 'Google' this- COMPLAINTS AND REVIEWS ABOUT TOYOTA AIRBAGS, and click on the consumeraffairs link in order to read the complaint which was posted by Martha on November 11, 2007 about the airbag that deployed for no reason in her son's 2006 Toyota Matrix that was traveling at approximately 70 MPH.

You can also 'Google' this- COMPLAINTS AND REVIEWS ABOUT TOYOTA ENGINE PROBLEMS, and read all of the complaints from Toyota owners who experienced sludge problems in their engines.

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#3 Consumer Comment

Friendly Help,

AUTHOR: Karl - ()

You can stay at this site and type in- WENT REALLY NUTS, and click on Ripoff Report #529757 and scroll down to Consumer Comment #1 and read an exact copy of one of the many letters that was sent to Dateline NBC and to 60 Minutes in 2007.

Then type in 284134 at this site and click on Ripoff Report #284134 and read what is posted in Consumer Comment #1. That consumer comment was posted on November 13, 2007. Ten months later, in September of 2008, the stock market crashed and the banking system collapsed.

You can also type in- ALL NEWS STATIONS LISTED HERE, and click on Ripoff Report #271771 and scroll down to Consumer Comment #1 and see the addresses to where all of the letters, copies of subpoenaed evidence, and hand-drawn cartoons depicting all of the fraud and corruption that was taking place inside corporate America were mailed throughout the entire year of 2007 and into the very early part of 2008, prior to the 'COLLAPSE'.

Have a nice day.

WELCOME TO AMERICA- ONE MASSIVE LIE THAT IS BEING EXPOSED ON THE WORLDWIDE WEB EVERY DAY

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#4 Consumer Comment

Friendly Help,

AUTHOR: Karl - ()

The 'collapse' did take place in September of 2008 when Lehman Brothers filed for bankruptcy, the stock market crashed, and the financial system in the USA and all over the world melted down. On September 29, 2008, the Dow Jones lost a record 777 points. Several other large corporations were also on the verge of collapsing including General Motors, Chrysler, AIG, Fannie Mae, and Freddie Mac. The American people were forced to bail-out the failed system with hundreds of billions of dollars in taxpayer's money from the TARP.

You can 'Google' this- FRONTLINE: INSIDE THE MELTDOWN, and watch that documentary on the web for proof.

Have a nice day.
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#5 Consumer Comment

YOUR LIFE COULD BE IN DANGER IF YOU DRIVE A TOYOTA BECAUSE...

AUTHOR: Karl - (U.S.A.)

THERE ARE MANY complaints at the consumeraffairs website from Toyota owners whose AIRBAGS are NOT DEPLOYING when they are in accidents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google this for proof- ENGINE SLUDGE, and go to the consumeraffairs website about Toyota Engine problems and then click on 'Airbags' and read all of them!!

Pay attention to the one where a 19 year-old student was driving on the highway in his Toyota Matrix and the AIRBAG deployed FOR NO REASON and an EXPLOSION of hot air (just like Toyota's executives) filled the cabin of the Matrix and the steering wheel became so hot he had to pull over!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He could have been killed if there was a lot of traffic, wouldn't you agree???????

The National News Agencies (NBC/ Dateline & CBS/ 60 Minutes), have been alerted to all of this, AND to the problems happening in our economy for OVER ONE YEAR now!!!!!!!!!!!! On July 14th 2007, they were sent VITAL INFORMATION regarding the STOCK MARKET 'adjustment' which happened exactly ONE YEAR AGO TODAY!!!!!!!!!!

On August 9th 2007, the Dow Jones LOST 387 points and all the problems started taking place. NBC & CBS knew!! They also KNEW that this would affect MILLIONS of HONEST Americans who have RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google this for proof- RIP OFF REPORT GM CREDIT CARD SERVICES, and read the first 'Update'. Look at the date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google this for proof too- RIP OFF REPORT TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION USA MANIPULATION, and read the 'Update' entitled- 'SUGGESTION'. Quote: 'Just watch what happens to all those 401K's in the next few years. And watch how the Dow Jones Adjusts too.' (7-16-2007). NBC & CBS has this in a letter written and mailed on 7-14-2007!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They also have VITAL INFORMATION from the Harvard Business Professor that PROVES all of this.

Google this for proof- RIP OFF REPORT FUEL FREEDOM INTERNATIONAL MPG CAPS, and go to the 2001 Toyota Tacoma Report, and then to the 'Update' entitled- 'Blame it on a Lawyer'. Look at the date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The MEDIA knows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The MEDIA could have alerted the PEOPLE of the USA, and MILLIONS could have had information VITAL to them regarding their RETIREMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NBC & CBS NEGLECTED to help the PEOPLE of the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOYCOTT NBC & CBS National Channels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Support your LOCAL NBC & CBS Stations only, and SUPPORT BBC & PBS Stations instead of the National Networks!!!!

I believe that there is a MASSIVE CONSPIRACY to DEFRAUD Americans out of their RETIREMENTS and NBC & CBS are HIDING this information!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God bless the innocent Americans & innocent people all over the world!!!!!!!!!!!!

SPEAK OUT!! IT'S YOUR RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Support our troops over in Iraq- BRING 'EM BACK!!!! BRING 'EM BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#6 Consumer Comment

YOUR LIFE COULD BE IN DANGER IF YOU DRIVE A TOYOTA BECAUSE...

AUTHOR: Karl - (U.S.A.)

THERE ARE MANY complaints at the consumeraffairs website from Toyota owners whose AIRBAGS are NOT DEPLOYING when they are in accidents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google this for proof- ENGINE SLUDGE, and go to the consumeraffairs website about Toyota Engine problems and then click on 'Airbags' and read all of them!!

Pay attention to the one where a 19 year-old student was driving on the highway in his Toyota Matrix and the AIRBAG deployed FOR NO REASON and an EXPLOSION of hot air (just like Toyota's executives) filled the cabin of the Matrix and the steering wheel became so hot he had to pull over!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He could have been killed if there was a lot of traffic, wouldn't you agree???????

The National News Agencies (NBC/ Dateline & CBS/ 60 Minutes), have been alerted to all of this, AND to the problems happening in our economy for OVER ONE YEAR now!!!!!!!!!!!! On July 14th 2007, they were sent VITAL INFORMATION regarding the STOCK MARKET 'adjustment' which happened exactly ONE YEAR AGO TODAY!!!!!!!!!!

On August 9th 2007, the Dow Jones LOST 387 points and all the problems started taking place. NBC & CBS knew!! They also KNEW that this would affect MILLIONS of HONEST Americans who have RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google this for proof- RIP OFF REPORT GM CREDIT CARD SERVICES, and read the first 'Update'. Look at the date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google this for proof too- RIP OFF REPORT TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION USA MANIPULATION, and read the 'Update' entitled- 'SUGGESTION'. Quote: 'Just watch what happens to all those 401K's in the next few years. And watch how the Dow Jones Adjusts too.' (7-16-2007). NBC & CBS has this in a letter written and mailed on 7-14-2007!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They also have VITAL INFORMATION from the Harvard Business Professor that PROVES all of this.

Google this for proof- RIP OFF REPORT FUEL FREEDOM INTERNATIONAL MPG CAPS, and go to the 2001 Toyota Tacoma Report, and then to the 'Update' entitled- 'Blame it on a Lawyer'. Look at the date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The MEDIA knows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The MEDIA could have alerted the PEOPLE of the USA, and MILLIONS could have had information VITAL to them regarding their RETIREMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NBC & CBS NEGLECTED to help the PEOPLE of the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOYCOTT NBC & CBS National Channels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Support your LOCAL NBC & CBS Stations only, and SUPPORT BBC & PBS Stations instead of the National Networks!!!!

I believe that there is a MASSIVE CONSPIRACY to DEFRAUD Americans out of their RETIREMENTS and NBC & CBS are HIDING this information!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God bless the innocent Americans & innocent people all over the world!!!!!!!!!!!!

SPEAK OUT!! IT'S YOUR RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Support our troops over in Iraq- BRING 'EM BACK!!!! BRING 'EM BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#7 Consumer Comment

YOUR LIFE COULD BE IN DANGER IF YOU DRIVE A TOYOTA BECAUSE...

AUTHOR: Karl - (U.S.A.)

THERE ARE MANY complaints at the consumeraffairs website from Toyota owners whose AIRBAGS are NOT DEPLOYING when they are in accidents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google this for proof- ENGINE SLUDGE, and go to the consumeraffairs website about Toyota Engine problems and then click on 'Airbags' and read all of them!!

Pay attention to the one where a 19 year-old student was driving on the highway in his Toyota Matrix and the AIRBAG deployed FOR NO REASON and an EXPLOSION of hot air (just like Toyota's executives) filled the cabin of the Matrix and the steering wheel became so hot he had to pull over!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He could have been killed if there was a lot of traffic, wouldn't you agree???????

The National News Agencies (NBC/ Dateline & CBS/ 60 Minutes), have been alerted to all of this, AND to the problems happening in our economy for OVER ONE YEAR now!!!!!!!!!!!! On July 14th 2007, they were sent VITAL INFORMATION regarding the STOCK MARKET 'adjustment' which happened exactly ONE YEAR AGO TODAY!!!!!!!!!!

On August 9th 2007, the Dow Jones LOST 387 points and all the problems started taking place. NBC & CBS knew!! They also KNEW that this would affect MILLIONS of HONEST Americans who have RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google this for proof- RIP OFF REPORT GM CREDIT CARD SERVICES, and read the first 'Update'. Look at the date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google this for proof too- RIP OFF REPORT TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION USA MANIPULATION, and read the 'Update' entitled- 'SUGGESTION'. Quote: 'Just watch what happens to all those 401K's in the next few years. And watch how the Dow Jones Adjusts too.' (7-16-2007). NBC & CBS has this in a letter written and mailed on 7-14-2007!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They also have VITAL INFORMATION from the Harvard Business Professor that PROVES all of this.

Google this for proof- RIP OFF REPORT FUEL FREEDOM INTERNATIONAL MPG CAPS, and go to the 2001 Toyota Tacoma Report, and then to the 'Update' entitled- 'Blame it on a Lawyer'. Look at the date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The MEDIA knows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The MEDIA could have alerted the PEOPLE of the USA, and MILLIONS could have had information VITAL to them regarding their RETIREMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NBC & CBS NEGLECTED to help the PEOPLE of the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOYCOTT NBC & CBS National Channels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Support your LOCAL NBC & CBS Stations only, and SUPPORT BBC & PBS Stations instead of the National Networks!!!!

I believe that there is a MASSIVE CONSPIRACY to DEFRAUD Americans out of their RETIREMENTS and NBC & CBS are HIDING this information!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God bless the innocent Americans & innocent people all over the world!!!!!!!!!!!!

SPEAK OUT!! IT'S YOUR RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Support our troops over in Iraq- BRING 'EM BACK!!!! BRING 'EM BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#8 Consumer Comment

YOUR LIFE COULD BE IN DANGER IF YOU DRIVE A TOYOTA BECAUSE...

AUTHOR: Karl - (U.S.A.)

THERE ARE MANY complaints at the consumeraffairs website from Toyota owners whose AIRBAGS are NOT DEPLOYING when they are in accidents!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google this for proof- ENGINE SLUDGE, and go to the consumeraffairs website about Toyota Engine problems and then click on 'Airbags' and read all of them!!

Pay attention to the one where a 19 year-old student was driving on the highway in his Toyota Matrix and the AIRBAG deployed FOR NO REASON and an EXPLOSION of hot air (just like Toyota's executives) filled the cabin of the Matrix and the steering wheel became so hot he had to pull over!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He could have been killed if there was a lot of traffic, wouldn't you agree???????

The National News Agencies (NBC/ Dateline & CBS/ 60 Minutes), have been alerted to all of this, AND to the problems happening in our economy for OVER ONE YEAR now!!!!!!!!!!!! On July 14th 2007, they were sent VITAL INFORMATION regarding the STOCK MARKET 'adjustment' which happened exactly ONE YEAR AGO TODAY!!!!!!!!!!

On August 9th 2007, the Dow Jones LOST 387 points and all the problems started taking place. NBC & CBS knew!! They also KNEW that this would affect MILLIONS of HONEST Americans who have RETIREMENT ACCOUNTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google this for proof- RIP OFF REPORT GM CREDIT CARD SERVICES, and read the first 'Update'. Look at the date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google this for proof too- RIP OFF REPORT TOYOTA MOTOR CORPORATION USA MANIPULATION, and read the 'Update' entitled- 'SUGGESTION'. Quote: 'Just watch what happens to all those 401K's in the next few years. And watch how the Dow Jones Adjusts too.' (7-16-2007). NBC & CBS has this in a letter written and mailed on 7-14-2007!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They also have VITAL INFORMATION from the Harvard Business Professor that PROVES all of this.

Google this for proof- RIP OFF REPORT FUEL FREEDOM INTERNATIONAL MPG CAPS, and go to the 2001 Toyota Tacoma Report, and then to the 'Update' entitled- 'Blame it on a Lawyer'. Look at the date!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The MEDIA knows!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The MEDIA could have alerted the PEOPLE of the USA, and MILLIONS could have had information VITAL to them regarding their RETIREMENTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NBC & CBS NEGLECTED to help the PEOPLE of the USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BOYCOTT NBC & CBS National Channels!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPREAD THE WORD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Support your LOCAL NBC & CBS Stations only, and SUPPORT BBC & PBS Stations instead of the National Networks!!!!

I believe that there is a MASSIVE CONSPIRACY to DEFRAUD Americans out of their RETIREMENTS and NBC & CBS are HIDING this information!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

God bless the innocent Americans & innocent people all over the world!!!!!!!!!!!!

SPEAK OUT!! IT'S YOUR RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Support our troops over in Iraq- BRING 'EM BACK!!!! BRING 'EM BACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#9 Consumer Comment

I think that ''The Collapse (that) Has been Triggered'' is yours, Karl

AUTHOR: Friendly Help - (U.S.A.)

You make less & less sense every time you post, Karl. And your posts add nothing toward solving anyone's problem.

Toyota will be hale & hearty long after you are gone.
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#10 Consumer Comment

YOU MUST ALL REMEMBER THAT TOYOTA IS...

AUTHOR: Karl - (U.S.A.)

a corporation based on- LIES, DECEPTION, MANIPULATION, FRAUD, GREED, CORRUPTION & the CONSTANT PURSUIT TO FINANCIALLY INJURE THE INNOCENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

That's WHY Toyota's stock (tm) has fallen BELOW $85 per share!!! Google this- SLUDGE POEM, and read the 'Update'.

Google this- ENGINE SLUDGE and go to the consumeraffairs website about Toyota Engine problems and read ALL OF THEM!! Especially the ones after you click on 'Airbags'. YOUR LIFE COULD BE IN DANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google this- SUIT: DEFECT REPORTS ALTERED TOYOTA PLANT and read the Whistleblower Lawsuit!! YOUR LIFE COULD BE IN DANGER!!!!!!!

Google this- SINGH V TOYOTA and read it!! He DIED!! He burned to death in his TOYOTA COROLLA!!!!!!!!!! YOUR LIFE COULD BE IN DANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Google this- YOUTUBE TOYOTA SEQUOIA DEFECT and watch the video of a Sequoia that flipped over on I-95!! YOUR LIFE COULD BE IN DANGER!!!!!!

Google this- SEXUAL HARASSMENT TOYOTA and read it!!

Google this- BALTIMORE SETTLEMENT CALIFORNIA TOYOTA and read how Mr. & Mrs. Baltimore were targetted, along with MANY MORE, due to their SKIN COLOR!!!

TOYOTA'S STOCK- MOVING DOWNWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's at $82.50 per share on August 4th 2008 at about 11:30 AM EST.

It'll go BELOW $70 per share by EARLY 2009!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

YOU CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BANK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The Collapse Has been Triggered!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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AUTHOR: Mia2000 - (U.S.A.)

To friendly help: I wondered how they got the information to pull my credit as well. I do not remember giving them my social security as there was no need. However, I don't believe it is too difficult for anyone to get the information they need. IN fact,they asked me for various information and to fill out an application and I said NO there is no need to sign or fill out anything. So, that issue remains to be seen. Thank you for your comments.
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AUTHOR: Mia2000 - (U.S.A.)

To friendly help: I wondered how they got the information to pull my credit as well. I do not remember giving them my social security as there was no need. However, I don't believe it is too difficult for anyone to get the information they need. IN fact,they asked me for various information and to fill out an application and I said NO there is no need to sign or fill out anything. So, that issue remains to be seen. Thank you for your comments.
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AUTHOR: Mia2000 - (U.S.A.)

To friendly help: I wondered how they got the information to pull my credit as well. I do not remember giving them my social security as there was no need. However, I don't believe it is too difficult for anyone to get the information they need. IN fact,they asked me for various information and to fill out an application and I said NO there is no need to sign or fill out anything. So, that issue remains to be seen. Thank you for your comments.
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AUTHOR: Mia2000 - (U.S.A.)

To friendly help: I wondered how they got the information to pull my credit as well. I do not remember giving them my social security as there was no need. However, I don't believe it is too difficult for anyone to get the information they need. IN fact,they asked me for various information and to fill out an application and I said NO there is no need to sign or fill out anything. So, that issue remains to be seen. Thank you for your comments.
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AUTHOR: Mia2000 - (U.S.A.)

To Jim in Florida. Thank you for your comments but I would like to clarify two points. #1 I handled the transaction and drove off with the new car in the same day. It was not until I got home that day and found they had pulled my credit report. The transaction was over. #2 In regards to your "fradulent fees" comment, I did not say they were fradulent, just outrageous. While I wish more than anything I did not purchase this vehicle from Route 44 Toyota, it was a done deal before I found they had pulled my credit report which was the main issue for me.
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#16 Consumer Suggestion

It Never Ends, Typical Car Dealer

AUTHOR: Cory - (U.S.A.)

Went to legend mazda yesterday with the wife cause she was interested in a new vehicle. Ask to see the vehicles that they have listed in their ad. They're all sold, no surprise. Pick out another vehicle and hand the salesman her keys to appraise her vehicle. 30 minutes later, the happy, smiling salesman approaches us with the figures in a "4 square" AND a happy face drawn on the paper. He's gonna "give" us $4,000 below blue book, $3,000 off the MSRP, cause mazda is giving $3,000 in rebates, HIS suggested monthly payment of $605 to $610(We're talking an msrp of $21,000) for 48 months with a $4,000 DOWNPAYMENT.

This MF is trying to sell us this $16 to $17,000 vehicle for a least $33,280+ interest. I told him I didn't think THAT was gonna work. I told him I'd offer him $16,000 for his vehicle. He got all excited cause he thought I was offering him $16,000 out the door, straight up, just to buy his vehicle. Not a bad deal for them cause they probably pay around $14 to $15,000 and if you take off the $3,000 in rebates paid by mazda, it's like selling the vehicle for $18 to $19,000 making an easy $4 or $5,000 on a 08, when the 09's are coming in and the economy sucks. When he figured out I was offering $16,000 for the total deal, he lost his excitement. I said go present to "the boss", the one he'd been standing their yakking with on and off for the last half hour. He comes back saying something about not being a serious offer. I said about as serious as the offer you presented us.

It's bad enough when a salesman thinks I'm stupid. But when he thinks I'm stupidier then he is. Out the door we went. I buy a lot of vehicles. I haven't had anyone play that game with me in decades. Hard to believe. The guy was going for at least $12,000 to $16,000 or more, on that deal. Well what do they say. You can't blame a car dealer for trying. What a scumbag.
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#17 Consumer Comment

How did they enough information to pull your credit rating?

AUTHOR: Friendly Help - (U.S.A.)

If you are purchasing for cash then you only get as personal as required when the final purchase bill of sale is completed.

And doc fees etc. are standard practice and if you ''Just say no'' to them they will simply go away.

You might be able to generate some heat under them on this, but I suggest that you not become so incensed that you develop an ulcer.
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#18 Consumer Suggestion

They Did This To You But You Rewarded Them Anyway?

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

What is wrong here???

They did this to you and you went thru with the deal???? You did say they stuck you with FRAUDULENT doc fees.

They lied to you over and over and you went thru with the deal???




Somebody help me here. Is there something wrong with this country's educational system that people get walked on such as this and they willingly play doormat???


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