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Complaint Review: Ryan Homes, Michael J. Cannizzo
| Ryan Homes, Michael J. Cannizzo 555 Quince Orchar Road, Ste 300
Gaithersburg, Maryland U.S.A. |
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Ryan Homes, Nails Customers Consumer Rip-off Nationwide
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Sad but true.
*Consumer Comment: You get what you pay for? - Builders will build crap, break laws with impunity, because they can get away with it..
*Consumer Comment: You get what you pay for
*Consumer Comment: Buyer beware what exactly
*Consumer Comment: Current Satisfied Ryan Homeowner
*Consumer Comment: Check references before signing the contract
*Consumer Comment: Check references before signing the contract
*Consumer Comment: Check references before signing the contract
*Consumer Comment: Check references before signing the contract
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Management and Supervisors have been curt and rude to us. All is
well documented. We have reached a settlement on the lot size
issues. This was done only to continue with construction of our
home. We were told if we didn't sign the addendum waiving our
rights to future claims a dnaccept the $2500.00 that construction would not continue.
After noticing quality problems with the construction of our home, I have been doing my own inspections of the home. I personally have 15 years experience in the construction business. I had to fight but I have them replacing 4 out of 6 exterior doors due to their careless concern for our property. Windows were thrown in mud and now will not operate, structural roof members were not properly nailed, shingles cut short, floor joists not to code, 4 out of 6 exterior doors with jambs broken, plywood not nailed on roof, siding loose on house and can be pulled 18 inches... The list goes on and on.
To think that I, the homeowner had to point these out to them. Their construction supervisor who inspects the homes didn't acknowledge these things. We put our trust in Ryan and now have our present home sold and these problems keep happening.
A Sales Manager for Ryan even told us we could get our money back and look somewhere else. He knew that our settlement was 4 weeks away and we had sold our existing home, have 2 small children, plus a 6 week old baby. Where was he expecting us to live while we found another home? I told him that was a ridiculus offer and that I want everything fixed. We are staying with the contract. We have no
choice.
Check out the About page of Ryan Homes Web Site.
http://www.ryanhomes.com/about.html
Here are a few quotes:
"Ryan encourages the customer to be involved in the entire
construction process. They arrange a series of meetings to
familiarize the customer with the home at the foundation, framing, and drywall stages. This, in turn, gives the customer a full knowledge of, and confidence in, the features and benefits of their home from the start."
When we did this, Ryan representatives would not respond to our
letters or calls. In most cases we had to write 3-4 letters to get a response. The responses that we received only stated what they were not going to do to resolve the issues.
"Superior Customer Service. Our customer service program is
predicated on fairness, timeliness and completeness. Our "on-call" service is convenient for you not us."
Ryan Homes has yet to offer a potential resolution to the issues. All that we keep getting are excuses. There has even been a threat that if we do not remove the complaints, we will not settle. Isn't that a form of extortion or blackmail?
Update 4/10/99 - Ryan decided to change our settlement date only 2 weeks prior to settlement without telling us. We found out by
accident on Friday, April 9, 1999 that on Tuesday, April 6, 1999
our settlement had changed from April 27 until April 30. When was someone going to let us know?
We may be one family with concern, but we represent all current and future Ryan Homes Buyers.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 04/29/1999 12:00 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Ryan-Homes-Michael-J-Cannizzo/Gaithersburg-Maryland-21878/Ryan-Homes-Nails-Customers-Consumer-Rip-off-Nationwide-414. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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Search Tips#1 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Sad but true.
AUTHOR: smitty14 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 30, 2009
#2 Consumer Comment
You get what you pay for? - Builders will build crap, break laws with impunity, because they can get away with it..
AUTHOR: Ronald - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 30, 2009
Some people love Dwight because he made them rich too, in addition to his 100's of millions he's made. But those of us he ripped off have little importance to them. It's scheming and scamming shortcuts that boosted the NVR board members huge bonus checks that counted the most. Cutting corners, cheap labor, stealing down payments whenever possible, putting the very least into product quality, so Dwight could donate $100,000's in each election to fund the campaign of the worst president in US history (GW).
Just because you paid less for Ryan Homes means you shouldn't expect your home to be built up to code, or be habitable after five years? And that stuff happens because "buyers" are cheap, not the builder? It was nothing to do with NVR's board's goals to make millions in bonuses year after year,
(and they all did) by boosting profits through cutting every corner in construction, legal or not?
Let's be honest here. Builders will build crap, break laws with impunity, because they can get away with it, and still profit from it. Until that changes, ED's BBB is about all we have to tell our side of the story. And I'm seeing here, what I hear inevitably from all victims. Blame is being put on buyers for getting ripped off, or stuck with a defective house. You can buy a car without knowing how to build it, and they can no longer sell you a lemon without recourse, no matter the price. Why are houses acceptably different?
#3 Consumer Comment
You get what you pay for
AUTHOR: Denise - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 20, 2007
Having built both custom homes and now a Ryan home, my experience has been that Ryan puts together a decent product for about 3/4 the price, in about 1/2 the time. We have had a very positive experience with Ryan. They have promptly attended to all the typical issues a new-home builder/buyer experiences. And if you believe that you won't experience many of the same construction problems with a custom-builder, you've never built a custom home (or been fantastically lucky).
While I sympathize with a closing date moved by three days, try finding temporary housing for the extra 2 months over schedule your custom home will routinely take. If you have expectations of world-class quality and white-glove service, then save up your pennies and buy somewhere else. You get what you pay for.
#4 Consumer Comment
Buyer beware what exactly
AUTHOR: Ronald - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 03, 2007
The company was built on profits from a lawsuit against a supplier, and bankruptcy, in which the companied lied on bankruptcy filing to "inadvertently" hide assets, while getting relief from most of their massive debt, when Dwight Schar took over the company. Even corporate has been doing insider trading deals, unobstructed be pesky SEC rules.
The construction business is not consumer friendly in most states. You can usually luck out and get a decent home. Ryan Homes has wide variables. Good homes are built in tract projects that happen to have a good, honest manager, who at their discretion can mange the projects, or in other cases let hapless unskilled workers control the quality of work.
That's a random variable that's completely accepted by most big builders. The company has built and buried info on 10's of thousands of homes with defects, (which I found from years of research)and has been sued so much over the years, they're experts at defense now. They have contractually and legally made themselves nearly immune to justice or consumer rights.
Even Ryan Homes states about 60% of the buyers are referred from past customers. That means the remaining 40%, if unhappy, don't much matter. IF you want to bet your life saving on a builder that uses a profit method that it knows creates unhappy customers that are merely classified as collateral damage, and which they take no accountability for, you can gamble, and buy Ryan Homes.
The satisfied customers of a homebuilder aren't necessarily helpful in your choice unless you like high stakes gambling, as when you invest your life savings into something, you can't afford to be on the negative side of their statistics.
In buying a home, the builder is only as good as their worst poorly built home, in which they will NOT fix regardless of warranty, code violation or criminal negligence. Ryan Homes has many of these, so indeed it's "buyer beware," until we defeat NAHB influence, and get valid consumer protection with new homes.
note:my own Ryan Homes complaint is filed here and is also on ryanhomesnightmare.com
#5 Consumer Comment
Current Satisfied Ryan Homeowner
AUTHOR: Katrina - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 07, 2006
#6 Consumer Comment
Check references before signing the contract
AUTHOR: Tom - ()
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 25, 2002
Thought number one: Why did you sign a contract to have them build you a house without first seeing the lot? That seems like very poor judgement to me. Did you see house plans? Why not a plat of the property or a landscape plan?
Thought number two: I cannot believe that someone with a background in the construction business would intentionally have a house built by Ryan Construction. Surely your experience would've given you plenty of contacts among quality general contractors and real-estate agents.
Thought number three: Where were you during construction? I am in the landscape business and I pay close attention while crews are working on my properties; I can't NOT watch them to make sure they are doing things correctly. My point is that someone in the construction business should've paid very close attention to a project so important to them. Surely you could've spent some time at your property while the house was under construction.
Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware.
#7 Consumer Comment
Check references before signing the contract
AUTHOR: Tom - ()
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 25, 2002
Thought number one: Why did you sign a contract to have them build you a house without first seeing the lot? That seems like very poor judgement to me. Did you see house plans? Why not a plat of the property or a landscape plan?
Thought number two: I cannot believe that someone with a background in the construction business would intentionally have a house built by Ryan Construction. Surely your experience would've given you plenty of contacts among quality general contractors and real-estate agents.
Thought number three: Where were you during construction? I am in the landscape business and I pay close attention while crews are working on my properties; I can't NOT watch them to make sure they are doing things correctly. My point is that someone in the construction business should've paid very close attention to a project so important to them. Surely you could've spent some time at your property while the house was under construction.
Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware.
#8 Consumer Comment
Check references before signing the contract
AUTHOR: Tom - ()
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 25, 2002
Thought number one: Why did you sign a contract to have them build you a house without first seeing the lot? That seems like very poor judgement to me. Did you see house plans? Why not a plat of the property or a landscape plan?
Thought number two: I cannot believe that someone with a background in the construction business would intentionally have a house built by Ryan Construction. Surely your experience would've given you plenty of contacts among quality general contractors and real-estate agents.
Thought number three: Where were you during construction? I am in the landscape business and I pay close attention while crews are working on my properties; I can't NOT watch them to make sure they are doing things correctly. My point is that someone in the construction business should've paid very close attention to a project so important to them. Surely you could've spent some time at your property while the house was under construction.
Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware.
#9 Consumer Comment
Check references before signing the contract
AUTHOR: Tom - ()
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 25, 2002
Thought number one: Why did you sign a contract to have them build you a house without first seeing the lot? That seems like very poor judgement to me. Did you see house plans? Why not a plat of the property or a landscape plan?
Thought number two: I cannot believe that someone with a background in the construction business would intentionally have a house built by Ryan Construction. Surely your experience would've given you plenty of contacts among quality general contractors and real-estate agents.
Thought number three: Where were you during construction? I am in the landscape business and I pay close attention while crews are working on my properties; I can't NOT watch them to make sure they are doing things correctly. My point is that someone in the construction business should've paid very close attention to a project so important to them. Surely you could've spent some time at your property while the house was under construction.
Caveat emptor - let the buyer beware.

