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Complaint Review: S & Y Wholesalers,? Inc

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  • Submitted: Thu, April 09, 2009
  • Updated: Thu, October 20, 2011

  • Reported By:Los Angeles California
S & Y Wholesalers,? Inc
1333 45th Street Brooklyn, New York U.S.A.

S & Y Wholesalers,? Inc, Sholom Friedlander, Scott Laverty iPhone/Electronics scammers! Stole $4200 from me! Buyers stay away! Brooklyn New York

*General Comment: Hi Scott Laverty is Scam

*General Comment: It doesn't add up

*Author of original report: Refund all my $, and stop lying!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Please blame the person who actually stole the money!

* : Liar! Liar! Liar!!!

* : Resolved

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After I contacted S&Y wholesalers, Inc., the owner's name is Sholom Friedlander. He told me the minimum purchase is 100 units, I told him if I can do a sample order of 10 units first, he said yes, so I placed an order through wire transfer on 3/20/2009 with them because Sholom told me he had 150 units avialable can ship me the 10 iPhones immediately.

I waited a few days and he replied 5 days later telling me the 150 units were sold fast and couldn't send me the 10pcs. He then said there will be another 500 units coming in a few days, he'll be able to ship them to me then. after 5 days of waiting after that, I still didn't get any update from him, so I called and he didn't answer, then I got a call from his supplier named Scott Laverty 6 days apologizing for the delay and told me he'll take care of my order the next day. I got a tracking # from him for overnight express, and I didn't get the package next day, when I checked online, the tracking # is wrong, it was meant for someone else. When I asked Scott what happened, he blamed it on his Supplier named Pam(Possibly Pam Holtz, another famous scammer), and showed me their emails of what went wrong, excuses of traffic accident and sort. Then he said his supplier will overnight the correct order to me yesterday, and of course failed to do so.

Basically he is telling me he will have to file fraud against his supplier but will refund me my $ as he gets $ from his buyers for orders. Everytime I email Sholom, he'll tell me he have to talk to Scott, and Scott is not giving me a definite date of refund and I'm not even sure if they will refund me in full at once. He also told me he is willing to ask his other supplier to ship me 200 units by this Friday before I even pay him to gain back my trust and I will only pay after I do get all the 200 units. I did a fraud search on the internet, and of course their names came up! On a UK wholesale forum and here on ripoff report.

I also got in contact with a buyer who end up cancel his credit card charge because of the same delaying stories, I'm planning to file a police report and claim with my bank. If needed, I will bring them to court to get back my $.

Buyers, if any of you been scammed by these two, email me! Let's work together and bring them down, so they can't scam another person in the future!

Helen
Los Angeles, California
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 04/09/2009 03:31 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/S-Y-Wholesalers-Inc/Brooklyn-New-York-11219/S-Y-Wholesalers-Inc-Sholom-Friedlander-Scott-Laverty-iPhoneElectronics-scammers-St-442349. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 General Comment

Hi Scott Laverty is Scam

AUTHOR: Neil - (United States of America)

Hi Alex,

After reading your comment it shows that Scott Laverty is Scam and you are part pf his team.

Helen Wired money to EHS and Scott Laverty.. This is Scott responsibility who he is doing business with.

This is just simple BS he paid 1000 out of his pocket.. Scott Laverty is Scam. He scam my friend as well.. Every one please be aware doing business with Scott Laverty.. He is Fraud. Scott Laverty and Fred Gonsalves from Northwest Wholesale Network stole money from my friend for apple products.

Ginger Guan from Jersey City is Scam artist working with Scott Laverty and Fred Gonsalves from california ia sacm.. Please be carefull doing business with them... NO advance Payment

Thank you

Neil

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#2 General Comment

It doesn't add up

AUTHOR: Alex - (United States of America)

Ms. Helen, your story simply does not come together. Let's examine a few details here without delving into every contradiction and willful omission.


1. First of all, you keep on claiming that people are getting scammed by them. You have not shown a single shred of evidence that this is true. It's almost a year and a half since this story happened. Where's all the other people who were scammed? Why aren't they posting reports? Where's the police investigation? Can we all put our collective heads together to figure out this one? Oh, I got it! There are no other people who got scammed.



2. Why didn't you mention the $1000 Scott took out of his own pocket in the original report? Maybe because it shows that he tried to help you, even though he was scammed just like you?



3. Scott says he has the receipt of wire transfer to Christina Copley and he sent you a copy. Why did you ignore that in the report? Why did you ignore it in the follow-up reply? Even harder to understand, why did you choose not to reply to that piece of evidence in the last reply, after Scott brought it up? Maybe because your allegations would fall apart? 



Ms. Helen, your very way of writing shows that you are just angry, and firing at whoever you can reach. However, besmirching the names of two honorable and respectable businessmen, is not the way to go.
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#3 Author of original report

Refund all my $, and stop lying!

AUTHOR: Helen - (U.S.A.)

I did get back $1000 out of the $4000 I paid you, but don't expect me to shut it because of it! You ignored all my emails asking for the remaining $3000 refund! I was not told about the 4th person before I placed my order, and I have no information about that Christina Copley until now, all I had from you is a # for her and doesn't even work, no one ever picked it up, so how do I know it's not a fake #!!! all I know is that my $ went to you and Sholom, and as a seller, you ARE RESPONSIBLE to refund my $! Stop shifting the blame, and stop playing word games with me! It's common sense to go after the seller who you dealt with from the start, why would I go after some fictional person I had no contact with and no information about? Refund my $, and that's what a responsible seller would do! By the way, you've told the same ridiculous lies to several other buyers I'm in contact with, and they got scammed by you several months before I did, so stop lying and start taking responsibility!!!
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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Please blame the person who actually stole the money!

AUTHOR: Scott Laverty - (USA)

Hello,  I am Scott Laverty.  I am tired of my name being dragged through the dirt and having to explain myself to every person I do business with.  I am guilty of no wrongdoing involving Helen.  I was the third broker in a chain of four brokers.  Helen sent $4,200 to S & Y who sent it to me.  I sent it to Christina Copley.  She is the one who stole this woman's money.  I have the receipt for the wire transfer my bank gave me to prove I sent the money to Christina Copley.  I even sent the receipt to Helen but she chose to ignore it.  I was the only one who sent any money back to Helen.  I sent her $1,000 out of my own pocket.  I have been pursuing Christina Copley for over 6 months to return the rest of Helen's money. 

Instead of blaming the person who actually stole her money, she decided it would be much better to try to ruin the reputations of two men (myself and Sholom Friedlander) who are honest businessmen instead of the person who stole her money, Christina Copley.  I can provide her name and address and it is her name who appears on the bank receipt for the wire transfer.  I wish that Helen would do the right thing and retract her comments labeling myself and Sholom as scammers and blame the correct person.  I do not imagine she will.

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Liar! Liar! Liar!!!

AUTHOR: Helen - (U.S.A.)

He NEVER refunded my $ in full! Only $1000 out of $4300 after 2 months of delay!!! After that, he completely cut off communication with me! I know two other buyers who got scammed by them! One of them have been scammed over $30,000 and is still under police investigation!
Don't believe a word he says! Liar! Liar! Liar!!!!!! You'll be out of your $ and wasting time!
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AUTHOR: S Y Wholesalers, Inc. - (USA)

We have been in touch with Helen the entire time and refunded money to her. We do not scam or ripoff anybody. We are here and respond to phone calls and emails in a very timely manner.
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