- Report: #939696
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Complaint Review: Safety Pro aka Safety Plus, Inc,
Safety Pro aka Safety Plus, Inc,357 N. Sheridan Ste. 102, Corona, CA 92880 Corona, California United States of America
Safety Pro aka Safety Plus, Inc, Safety Pro aka Safety Plus, Inc. Safey Pro. is 100% a SCAM!!! Corona, California
PLAIN & SIMPLE....they are masking SAFETY PRODUCTS as the main money-maker.
Yet, the key to their success is
1) Schedule MULTIPLE INTERVIEWS
3) Offer them an "OPPORTUNITY"
4) COLLECT the SECURITY FEE
The goal is to hire as many people as possible in a month.
I knew office managers at Safety Plus to hire as many as 80-100 in a month at $75 per person for the 'Security Fee.'
In the late 80's (1989) to early 90's, the 'Office Mgr' received approximately $40 of the $75 fee.
BACKGROUND on Terry Herschberger
Terry Herschberger was, alledgedly, a carpenter from Indiana. At least that's what he said he did in his "I have arrived" speech and "you can, too."
In his MANY speeches as a "Regional Director" for then-named 'Safety Plus, Inc.,' he claims he, "...saw a tiny ad in the classifieds labeled, 'OFFICE MANAGER WANTED, NO EXP NECESSARY.'
So, he answered the ad, as he paints this picture of bleek opportunities and closed doors with little to no education past high school under his belt.
He explains to the group how "EXCITED" he got when he saw the demonstration on how HALON 1211 works.
"The vapors, alone, are all that's needed to extinguish the fire," he says with such inflection you feel as if you're back on the streets somewhere with someone selling SNAKE-OIL.
They teach you to put HALON 1211 into a small glass, put lighter fluid in a pie pan, light a match, throw it in the pan and ask the IMPORTANT question,"Now, how much of this do you think I need to extinguish that fire?"
Since there is a small amount of liquid nitrogen in the glass, it's the vapors that actually take away the oxygen, a crucial ingredient in the fire triangle.
So, when he tips the cup to a room full of "APPLICANTS/CANDIDATES," they are all impressed that, "...only the vapors are needed to put out the fire."
Unfortunately, I was young and had no real job offers, so I answered the ad, saw the demo on HALON 1211 and paid my then $75 'Security Fee.'
Sold my way up through their makeshift awards system; Silver PIN, GOLD PIN, PIN w/RUBYS, DIAMONDS, rings, etc each time you were asked to SELL MORE equipment for "residential & commercial use."
And, as they had stated on the phone when you call, "You must be prepared to pay for a 'SECURITY BACKGROUND CHECK' since you will be handling large sums of company money."
The STATE FIRE MARSHALL will be able to CONFIRM that you are NOT ALLOWED to dispense HALON 1211 for ANY REASON other than an actual fire. At least, that's what then- California State Fire Marshall, Don Masters, told me over a phone conversation I had with him in the early 90's.
As s a 'Sales Rep' for Safety Pro and the aforementioned Safety Plus, Inc., you are asked to do at least 20-25 demonstrations per week in order to sell their products.
Uncertain if there are EPA Laws being broken by Safety Pro just as Safety Plus, Inc. had broken them years ago. Yet, something must be in place to have the State Fire Marshall almost jump out his chair when I told him what were doing with the HALON 1211 per Terry Herschberg's direction.
The company started out in Lexington, KY under a Mr. Strauss, who has since passed away. I take it they continued to flee West as they came across law suits filed from each state to prohibit them operating in such a manner.
I knew Terry when he was in Chicago.
I knew him when he was in California.
I knew his wife, Lisa, who was his secretary when he first arrived in California at an Office in Carson City, CA listed to another 'successful' office manager that went by the name Tom Pabin. Apparently Pabin's family owned a Dairy Queen in Indiana and also knew Herschber. Pabin was alledgedly 19 yrs old and making a good living as the office mgr for Safety Plus, Inc. in Carson, CA (c.1989-1992).
Terry also had a friend from OH, Dave Diullo, who claimed to be from Youngstown, OH. Rumor had it that Diullo had a run-in with the feds and could have possibly spent some jail time. If so, then the feds would have record of this man.
This company is a TOTAL SCAM!
I refused to take people's money for a Security Check that did not exist. So, I left the company shortly after being "promoted" to manage an office for Safety Plus, Inc. under Regional Director Terry Herschberger.
Herschberger knew I had family in Law Enforcement.
The HALON 1211 Fire Extinguishers are extremely good products. They extinguish electrical fires, which can be well within walls, in a quick, efficient manner that causes little to no damage to property.
Yet, I would be hesitant to purchase anything with a plastic top and a way for the liquid nitrogen (which propels the Halon) to escape over time (certainly shorter than the 10 yr guarantee).
By then, Herschberger will be retired and onto the next scam.
It's unfortunate that Terry is still taking a security fee for a background check that does not occur, from people under the guise that "everyone deserves an opportunity."
Nowadays you could conduct your own background check with a click of the mouse. I would guess that Terry does these checks on his own for little of no money out of his pocket, yet charges people the 'Security fee,' and down payment on demo equipment.
Yet, everyone comes to them as their last hope to get a job. ESPECIALLY today.
I can only imagine how many people are showing up at their offices with their last $60-75 they either borrowed or scrounged up to bring to this makeshift 'Job-Interview.'
Terry teaches the managers that "They have the money with them. It's up to you to get it from them."
Those that do join and sell are paid 100% commissions.
Plus, approximately 10-20%, or more, of the total office monthly commissions go right back in the manager's pocket.
If you sell your way up and become an 'Office Mgr," Herschberger has another clone to SCAM people out of their money, hire as many people as possible each and every month, dispense HALON 1211 into the air against the State Fire Marshall and EPA Laws and paint the picture that he is running a 'legit business."
By then, those fooled enough to stay in the system have far too much invested to turn back. Some like the easy scam.
Others, like me, realize quickly what the game is and LEAVE!!
Call the State Fire Marshall. Call the EPA. Ask them if what they're doing at Safety Pro is acceptable under California and Federal Laws designed to protect the environment and you'll have your answers.
More importantly, LISTEN to someone who WAS THERE and witnessed these SAME people listed in an earlier RIP-OFF report scam others and watch them start the scam in California.
Nedra, a rep from Safety Pro is drinking the kool-aid. I recognize Terry's sayings in her response about "listening to losers, blah-blah-blah."
I would guess Nedra never made more than $100k prior to taking people's money and disguising it as, 'You need to sell more to earn the commissions, then become an office mgr so you can earn money on the phony security background checks.'
Believe me, I WAS THERE. I saw and heard how the scam worked. They tried to make me understand what Nedra is trying to push, but you KNOW when something is WRONG!!!!
If you get involved and feel it's right for you, then be prepared to accept the consequences that go with running that type of business.
Concerned US Citizen
United States of America
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 09/11/2012 02:01 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Safety-Pro-aka-Safety-Plus-Inc/Corona-California-92880/Safety-Pro-aka-Safety-Plus-Inc-Safety-Pro-aka-Safety-Plus-Inc-Safey-Pro-is-100-a-SCA-939696. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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