- Report: #108032
Complaint Review: Sams Club
| Sams Club Lowell Rd
Hudson, New Hampshire U.S.A. |
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Sams Club Ripoff Treats members like thieves Hudson New Hampshire
*UPDATE Employee: As previously stated...
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: They check employees at the door every single time, if they don't they get the boot
*Consumer Suggestion: Read your contract that YOU signed!
*Consumer Comment: Sams Clubs SO FU** UP
*Consumer Suggestion: I agree with James.. I am a police officer in the military studying to be a civilian cop, the rule is loss prevention cannot detain you. They are not law enforcement, as much as they might think they are.
*Consumer Comment: Applied equally...is not illigal or even immoral
*Consumer Comment: Understand the REAL ISSUE!
*Consumer Comment: Dead wrong The courts have consistently held time and time
*Consumer Comment: Re: Legal Rights Regarding Search at Door
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: Calm down man
*Consumer Comment: Hint for Sherri: your rights end at our border.
*Consumer Comment: OH, AND JAMES.......... I guess that you would consider this a "violation of rights" as well?
*Consumer Comment: The facts..... I really dont care if they "search" my bags
*Consumer Comment: The facts..... I really dont care if they "search" my bags
*Consumer Comment: YEP, JAMES, YOU HAVE RIGHTS.. you had better find yourself a deserted island
*Consumer Comment: Apparently the club of idiotic consumers has posted en masse. Shoplifters my ass!
*Consumer Comment: SAM'S DOES IT, COSTCO DOES IT....
*Consumer Suggestion: cart search You have you cart electronically "searched
*Consumer Suggestion: cart search You have you cart electronically "searched
*Consumer Suggestion: cart search You have you cart electronically "searched
*Consumer Suggestion: cart search You have you cart electronically "searched
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Just Deal With It
*Consumer Suggestion: I have worked in retail
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Question and a comment.
Is it a condition of my membership to have my cart searched every time I leave Sams Club (Hudson NH)??
Because it seems to be the policy of the store in Hudson, NH. You cannot leave this store without being stopped asked to produce your reciept and a full cart search!! I am not a thief. The searching of someones cart, asumes they have done something illeagal. As a MEMBER I find this very insulting and extremely annoying. Not only that, but on busy days it takes an extra ten minutes to wade through this search procedure.
The fact that they can't find trustworthy cashiers should not be a burden to a member. We pay to be members here and should be treated with a little more respect.
I want to know my leagal rights as to their cart search policy.
Dennis
Hudson, New Hampshire
U.S.A.
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Search Tips#1 UPDATE Employee
As previously stated...
AUTHOR: Anonymous - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 02, 2011
When someone comes through with 4 flats packed with sodas, huge boxes, cases of meat, etc. it isn't hard to miss one box or to miscount and scan something incorrectly. The door greeter is just an extra precaution for the store and to ensure you didn't get charged for too many of something. It's not like we are strip searching you. Just a brief scan of the merchandise and your receipt.
Also, you are not being violated unless they are attempting to search anything on your person... such as purses or pockets! AND it wouldn't be fair for the family in front of you to walk out with say... $100 of unpaid merchandise when you had to pay for everything, would it? Nope. Some people ARE dishonest. I've busted so many people trying to hide stuff between cases of water and soda.. because cashiers are required to move and handle every item you bring to check out. This ensures we scan it and do not miss anything! Maybe you forgot it was there, or maybe you were stealing. We don't know. We don't judge. We just ring you up, thank you, and they just make sure you were properly charged, thank you, and send you on your way. We are a club protecting our members and our product. :D
Respect for the individual is also a HUGE deal at Sam's. If you feel like you've been singled out, targeted, looked at wrong, or anything of that nature, speak to a manager!
#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds
They check employees at the door every single time, if they don't they get the boot
AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 28, 2008
#3 Consumer Suggestion
Read your contract that YOU signed!
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 20, 2007
You seem to be so concerned about the 'evil' that Sams perpetrated upon you. Have you considered that you are the person who cannot/will not live up to the terms of a contract you entered into?
Why not cancel your membership if you cant do what you promised?
#4 Consumer Comment
Sams Clubs SO FU** UP
AUTHOR: Mythkw - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 20, 2007
but it really irritates me wen i shop there every week every time i enter that i have to show my card . I mean why cant they just take my word for it .. why do they have to see my damn card . I mean i wouldn't be shopping there if i dint have a card cos i d need it when i check out ..
#5 Consumer Suggestion
I agree with James.. I am a police officer in the military studying to be a civilian cop, the rule is loss prevention cannot detain you. They are not law enforcement, as much as they might think they are.
AUTHOR: Jose - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, May 08, 2005
Even if they DID suspect you of shoplifting they STILL could NOT detain you. What happens is that people caught shoplifting tend to run WITH the product the LP then gives chase, tackles suspect and places them in cuffs, which opens a HUGE liability to the company because there is a proper procedure to cuffing and civilians generally don't know it.
They can confront you and ask you to give the merchandise back and also ask you to follow them into a back room, BUT YOU DO NOT HAVE TOO. So, do the check it dosn't take long but if it does and you dont' want to just leave if you havn't taken anything then you are clear.
One more thing to James though, I did work in retail when I was younger and associates got checked at the end of the night when they left. I worked at JCPenney in CT and they checked ALL of our bags, so it does happen.
#6 Consumer Comment
Applied equally...is not illigal or even immoral
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, May 02, 2005
That's the idea...and it brings you somewhat lower prices. Now if they pulled you aside randomly, that's one thing...but they apply it across the board wherever I've seen it done.
Get a life and quit your bitching about stupid stuff like this. Take your energy and put it into screaming about why gas prices are the bigger thief, as are cable companies and more. Cable companies can spy on what you watch by reverse feedback from those digital boxes...but you don't complain about that...do you.
#7 Consumer Comment
Understand the REAL ISSUE!
AUTHOR: Dave - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, May 02, 2005
#8 Consumer Comment
Dead wrong The courts have consistently held time and time
AUTHOR: James - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, May 02, 2005
Furthermore, a retail establishment loses approximately 4X more to employee theft than to shoplifting. So, question for you: when was the last time you saw someone in a Walmart vest being searched on the way out of the store?
As to insults, that was simply due to the idiotic tangent she tried to take us down regarding other countries.
#9 Consumer Comment
Re: Legal Rights Regarding Search at Door
AUTHOR: Kathy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, May 01, 2005
Wal-Mart, Sam's Club, and just about every retail establishment in the country have every right to search anything and everything you bring into or out of the store. You see, the Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution (against illegal search and seizure) applies ONLY to federal law enforcement officials. It does NOT apply to private parties or companies.
This is not to say they can hit you over the head if they suspect you of theft ... but basically, you have no rights when it comes to this door look-over policy. Either deal with it, or don't shop there.
Frankly, I don't see what the problem is. If you're in that much of a hurry, hire someone else to shop for you. Or better yet, get a local boy to do your shopping.
#10 REBUTTAL Individual responds
Calm down man
AUTHOR: Alex - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, May 01, 2005
#11 Consumer Comment
Hint for Sherri: your rights end at our border.
AUTHOR: James - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 13, 2005
Also, I note that your idiotic replies continue to avoid the real issue in retail losses - the internal situation. Try and focus on the real issue, OK?
Finally, using your own approach, there are indeed people called "shoplifters; there are things that go "boom"; and there are also people that go "duh", and you clearly seem to be the valedictorian of that group. Tell us, did they spell your name correctly on your GED?
#12 Consumer Comment
OH, AND JAMES.......... I guess that you would consider this a "violation of rights" as well?
AUTHOR: Sherri - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 13, 2005
It is a damned shame that Sams and Costco have to resort to checking carts..but it also a damned shame that there are so many people who have propensity to take things that they don't want to pay for. And we (the honest people) should have to finance that more than we do already?
#13 Consumer Comment
The facts..... I really dont care if they "search" my bags
AUTHOR: Ben - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 13, 2005
As for the law in these matters, from what I have heard is this.
When you hand your cash, sign that credit card slip, or punch in that debit card number, the transaction is FINAL. PERIOD! The product or whatever is YOURS. At that point it simply becomes a matter of do you, or do you not want someone else to see it. If they want to see your recipt or items, it is totally up to you. It is yours now. Its YOUR property. They DO have the right to question and demand. But only in the case of shoplifting. If they suspect you of that, they may detain you. Of course if they are wrong, then we all know where that can lead.
It all comes down to a matter of how much hassle do you really want to deal with when you leave. If it will only take a few seconds, I dont mind. If they backup everyone at the door for 10+ minutes and refuse to let anyone pass without the check, then I will raise a fuss, ask if they are accusing me of shoplifting and deal with it as such.
So far not one store has ever gone that far. Just remember....the transaction is OVER when the money is exchanged. It is now your property and you have a right to do whatever you want with it. That includes not showing it or even hiding it outright.
#14 Consumer Comment
The facts..... I really dont care if they "search" my bags
AUTHOR: Ben - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 13, 2005
As for the law in these matters, from what I have heard is this.
When you hand your cash, sign that credit card slip, or punch in that debit card number, the transaction is FINAL. PERIOD! The product or whatever is YOURS. At that point it simply becomes a matter of do you, or do you not want someone else to see it. If they want to see your recipt or items, it is totally up to you. It is yours now. Its YOUR property. They DO have the right to question and demand. But only in the case of shoplifting. If they suspect you of that, they may detain you. Of course if they are wrong, then we all know where that can lead.
It all comes down to a matter of how much hassle do you really want to deal with when you leave. If it will only take a few seconds, I dont mind. If they backup everyone at the door for 10+ minutes and refuse to let anyone pass without the check, then I will raise a fuss, ask if they are accusing me of shoplifting and deal with it as such.
So far not one store has ever gone that far. Just remember....the transaction is OVER when the money is exchanged. It is now your property and you have a right to do whatever you want with it. That includes not showing it or even hiding it outright.
#15 Consumer Comment
YEP, JAMES, YOU HAVE RIGHTS.. you had better find yourself a deserted island
AUTHOR: Sherri - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 13, 2005
#16 Consumer Comment
Apparently the club of idiotic consumers has posted en masse. Shoplifters my ass!
AUTHOR: James - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 13, 2005
As far as the rights of the original poster, I don't think you have any because it's a membership club and those are the rules. The exception is that, if it is truly backed up and gridlocked, I have seen people walk out without being checked and basically telling them to get enough people working the door if you expect me to wait.
However, the same is NOT true at WalMart or any other normal store. You cannot be searched, your receipt cannot be checked, and you cannot be detained unless you agree to it. In any other scenario, the first words out of your mouth should be "are you accusing me of shoplifting?". If they say yes, then YOU call 911 immediately. If they say no, then keep walking.
There are indeed people known as shoplifters. And there are things in this country known as rights. Mr Bagchecker isn't about to violate mine. Maybe when these stores get there own employees under control I'll cut them some slack. Until then, get the hell out of the way.
#17 Consumer Comment
SAM'S DOES IT, COSTCO DOES IT....
AUTHOR: Sherri - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 13, 2005
#18 Consumer Suggestion
cart search You have you cart electronically "searched
AUTHOR: Kris - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 13, 2005
If they were constantly raising prices because they let themselves get ripped off on a daily basis you'd still be complaining. Give up and get over it.
#19 Consumer Suggestion
cart search You have you cart electronically "searched
AUTHOR: Kris - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 13, 2005
If they were constantly raising prices because they let themselves get ripped off on a daily basis you'd still be complaining. Give up and get over it.
#20 Consumer Suggestion
cart search You have you cart electronically "searched
AUTHOR: Kris - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 13, 2005
If they were constantly raising prices because they let themselves get ripped off on a daily basis you'd still be complaining. Give up and get over it.
#21 Consumer Suggestion
cart search You have you cart electronically "searched
AUTHOR: Kris - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 13, 2005
If they were constantly raising prices because they let themselves get ripped off on a daily basis you'd still be complaining. Give up and get over it.
#22 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Just Deal With It
AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 15, 2004
Also. they are also verifying that your merchandise was rung up correctly. I had a wrong item rung up on my order and it was caught by the checker at the door. It turns out I was overcharged and he walked me over to the customer service counter and got me my money back.
The alternative is to bag everything and to have the checker put stickers on items that don't fit in bags. Guess what this will mean? Slower checkout, more expense for the store which will raise ourt prices and then you will be complaining again.
A 10 minute wait at the door is worth saving money. If you want to cancel your membership and spend more money at other stores suit yourself.
#23 Consumer Suggestion
I have worked in retail
AUTHOR: Deb - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, September 12, 2004

