• Report: #995527

Complaint Review: SandMan boxers

  • Submitted: Sat, January 12, 2013
  • Updated: Mon, February 11, 2013

  • Reported By: boxer lover — newark Ohio United States of America
SandMan boxers
1413 Cantrell Ct. Internet United States of America

SandMan boxers george williams Sold unhealthy dogs Grade 4 heart murmur and Parasites, Internet

*Consumer Comment: hhmmm??

*General Comment: Name?

*Author of original report: I'm SORRY

*Author of original report: IM SORRY

*General Comment: Outrageous Lies!

*Consumer Comment: Regarding report

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Response to Rip off Post

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I purchased a dog from George Williams from Sandman boxers in May of 2011. I was told that the dog had been vet checked before he flew out to me, well he was not.

I took him to my vet the day after I got him like our contract said and my vet was immediately concerned as he heard a grade 4 heart murmur. my heart sank, as I was so excited with my new puppy that he was supposedly from "health Tested" parents and he was my first European boxer. Well his heart murmur is severe, he was also full  of hookworms even thou I was told all the puppies were dewormed. I contacted George to tell him what my vet had found.

he did not seem surprised and all he could tell me was that this was not covered in the health guarantee. I paid for full breeding rights and I can not breed a dog with such a murmur. At first he told me that he would try and help me with another puppy if I did not tell anyone and kept this information to myself. [continued below]....
..... Well, after a while of me asking for my new replacement puppy he would not return my money or my calls.

Well, I did my research and was able to find 4 other people that purchased dogs from this same litter and I found out that 2 of them their dogs ALSO had grade 4 murmurs. I was shocked that such a "reputable" breeder would just ignore all this. 

almost 2 years later and I still have not got a response from Sandman boxers. Well, honestly I gave up after a year of calling and emailing. I neutered my boy and placed him with a family member. 

I just spoke to someone today, and they told me a horror story  from sandman boxers that they just had regarding false AKC registration papers, and I just could not keep quiet any longer! There are 4 breeders out there that know about this murmur and worms litter, I just don't understand why must some people be so deceitful.

Vent over.  

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 01/12/2013 12:44 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/SandMan-boxers/internet/SandMan-boxers-george-williams-Sold-unhealthy-dogs-Grade-4-heart-murmur-and-Parasites-Int-995527. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

hhmmm??

AUTHOR: Upperkutt - (United States of America)

So high and mighty s**t starter, what is your name? please do come forward, how are you gonna post outrageous lies because you were mad? or was it jealousy. what is your name since you are prentending to be me, you must know me since you have all my information to the "T". You assumed i got my dog from Sandman and for some reason wanted to get s**t started so you posted pretending I made this post when now you look like a complete dumbass cause in fact my dog DID NOT come from Sandman boxers. Hows it feel to automatically assume, get things blown out of proportion, and now it all fell back on you? so what is your name? You atleast owe that since your hiding behind a fake account pretending to be me.

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#2 General Comment

Name?

AUTHOR: irondog - (United States of America)

We all know who you are, you've been doing this to good, honest breeders for years so why not post your real name! I for one, along with many others in the Boxer world have had enough of your lying, drama filled crap. What do you really think you'll gain by all of this? Nothing! Obviously it doesn't bring you more clients or your puppies would all be sold. Sad thing is there are plenty of reports on you and they are true! Do us all a favor and go away!
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#3 Author of original report

I'm SORRY

AUTHOR: boxer lover - (USA)

I am the original author of this report and I would like to APOLOGIZE to Mr. George Williams.

I honestly made a huge mistake. I was angry and took it out on the wrong kennel and person.

I have NEVER had any dealings with SandMan boxers and everything in this report is untrue.

I am VERY SORRY for any trouble it may have caused you. I sincerely am sorry.

I contacted Ripoff and they explained to me all the steps I need to take to make this right. This is why it took me so long to come here and explain. They just came back to me with an answer.

They told me to first write the withdrawel letter and explain that this is all not correct and not true. I had to take it to my moms attorney because it needs to be a notarized affidavit. Well, I provided them with this thursday, they now told me that it will go thru the arbritration department and they will take the steps to have it say that this report was investigated and found to be untrue. and will show as a false statement before anything else, In BOLD RED.

this is part of what they explained to me.

The arbitrator then reviews all of the submissions and renders a written decision. In the event that the arbitrator determines that the Report is true, there will be no updates or changes to the website. If the Arbitrator finds that statements in the report are false, the title of the report will be updated, posting this phrase BEFORE the original title: Notice: Ripoff Report VIP Arbitration Decision: A neutral and independent arbitrator has determined that the following Report contained one or more false statements of fact. The false statements have been redacted. A summary of the arbitrators decision will be posted after the title and before the original content of the report. Any statements of fact that the arbitrator determines to be false will be removed from the original report.

I will do everything I can to make this right.

AGAIN, Im an truly sorry for causing any trouble for you Mr. George Williams.

Please forgive me, I made a mistake.

I will email you directly and call you if you would like.
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#4 Author of original report

IM SORRY

AUTHOR: boxer lover - (USA)

I am the original author of this report and I would like to APOLOGIZE to Mr. George Williams.

I honestly made a huge mistake. I was angry and took it out on the wrong kennel and person.

I have NEVER had any dealings with SandMan boxers and everything in this report is untrue.

I am VERY SORRY for any trouble it may have caused you. I sincerely am sorry.

I contacted Ripoff and they explained to me all the steps I need to take to make this right. This is why it took me so long to come here and explain. They just came back to me with an answer.

They told me to first write the withdrawel letter and explain that this is all not correct and not true. I had to take it to my moms attorney because it needs to be a notarized affidavit. Well, I provided them with this thursday, they now told me that it will go thru the arbritration department and they will take the steps to have it say that this report was investigated and found to be untrue. and will show as a false statement before anything else, In BOLD RED.

this is part of what they explained to me.

The arbitrator then reviews all of the submissions and renders a written decision. In the event that the arbitrator determines that the Report is true, there will be no updates or changes to the website. If the Arbitrator finds that statements in the report are false, the title of the report will be updated, posting this phrase BEFORE the original title: Notice: Ripoff Report VIP Arbitration Decision: A neutral and independent arbitrator has determined that the following Report contained one or more false statements of fact. The false statements have been redacted. A summary of the arbitrators decision will be posted after the title and before the original content of the report. Any statements of fact that the arbitrator determines to be false will be removed from the original report.

I will do everything I can to make this right.

AGAIN, Im an truly sorry for causing any trouble for you Mr. George Williams.

Please forgive me, I made a mistake.

I will email you directly and call you if you would like.
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#5 General Comment

Outrageous Lies!

AUTHOR: irondog - (United States of America)

I have a few words to say about Sandman Boxers. George is an outstanding breeder and importer! He goes above and beyond what is needed to manke sure his clients are more than happy with what they receive. I went through George when importing a new Boxer. He handled everything in an extremely professional manner. Even when the paperwork that came from the breeder was notthe correct paperwork needed for AKC he made sure it was taken care of. He went as far as to offer a refund if the cprrect paperwork could not be received. He was going to refund money on a dog that was not from him, was not bred by him, or bred from any of his bloodlines. I did receive the correct paperwork, which was actually identicle to what I received the first time, so in my own opinion AKC made the mistake on their end because they should've excepted the first set of paperwork. Anyone who has anything bad to say about George is nothing but a jealous liar. I know many individuals as well as breeders that have not only went through George to import but who have also purchased puppies/dogs directly from his own breedings. Never once have I heard one negative comment about him and his breeding program. I have and will continue to recommend George to anyone looking to import or looking to add a Boxer to their home. I hope (and know) that George will find out who the person is that is responsible for these false lies! To the person or persons doing this, why don't you take care of what's in your own backyard instead making up lies about others. You might find that you'll get a lot further with your own breeding program instead of making yourself look like a trouble making idiot!
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#6 Consumer Comment

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AUTHOR: Upperkutt - (United States of America)

Hi I am in Newark, Ohio and it seems this little "report" was made out pretending to be me, I don't and never had boughten a dog off of George at sandman boxers so this little claim is false, however I did get a dog from NC with a grade 4 murmur but he deff didn't come from George. Whoever is posting falsifying claims pretending to be me why don't you come forward and quit trying to hide behind fake accounts bashing people. 
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#7 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Response to Rip off Post

AUTHOR: Sandman Boxers - (United States of America)


My name is George Williams of Sandman Boxers.  I have
proudly bred boxers since 2001.  After breeding American boxers for several
years, I found my true love of boxers in the European bred boxer.  I work very
hard and spend countless hours of research to ensure that the boxers that I
import are from fully health tested parents and come from not only some of the
best lines in the world but healthy ones as well.  I was totally shocked that
someone could post such defaming remarks about me without even the mention of
their name or the parents of the alleged puppy that they purchased from me.

They took the time to steal my copyright protected logo instead of posting a
picture of the sick boxer puppy or the parents of the sick puppy.  Don't you
think that would have been a little more damaging to have posted that
information?  Your post has no merit and not even a foot to stand on.

 In response to the allegations, I had no European  Boxer litter in 2011 available until August
 of of that year and of that litter there were only 3 puppies born.  Please, Mr. or Mrs. Anonymous
 from Newark, Ohio enlighten me.  I have never sold a puppy to you or anyone else from Newark,
Ohio.  I am in steady contact with my customers of that litter and your
allegations claim that you located 4 others from the same litter.  If you care
to write a fraudulent claim about me at least take the time to do your homework
and make it seem a little more realistic.  I have heard of a breeder from
Newark, Ohio buying a Grade IV murmur puppy from another breeder in North
Carolina, but rest assured, that breeder was not me!  As far as the allegations
of fraudulent AKC registration papers, I am proud to say that I was inspected by
The American Kennel Club on 2/21/2012 and I passed the inspection with flying
colors.  The inspector even noted that he had not seen anyone as organized as my
documentation was and how impressed he was with my record keeping  ability

I anxiously await your full apology for defamation of
character and a  full withdrawal of this fraudulent rip off report.


George Williams
Sandman Boxers
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