Sanford Brown Institute waste of time and money, can't get a job after graduate because of the bad reputation. I have a lawyer please call me. White Plains New York

Am is too late i want in! I have been looking for this for a very long time darn uproffesional school. Not only that they made me take billing and coding as a pre req for sonography should i say more what does billing and coding even have to do with sonography?? When i finished they told me i didnt qualify for the sonography program! WTH please call me i will fly out to new york where ever im not going to let them ruin my credit and life as much as they already have!! 2104734037 Vanessa A san antonio,tx

I went to sbi was made promises that i would make between $20-30 an hour. I never found a job and have loans that to me are unfair ive been out of school for years now with no medical assistant job still and found out alot of the teachers who are there were students from previous classes. Also they tell you in order to pass hematology you dont have to get stuck well its not true because once in the class the teacher says something totally different. they lie to get your money get you sucked in and then leave you to the wolves. contact me at zajernse@gmail.com Im ready to make them pay back the money that they knew i would never be able to pay back since they knew there would be no employment behind this and also i got all high grades in my classes and no one excepts credits from them.

I so want in. Words can not express how unprofessional this school is. Lies, lies they have a very bad reputation and they allow anyone to enter. For example taking test on abbreviations of the states, however, females in the class didn't feel it was fair to take this simple quick quiz on the spot they needed time to study and when I said something I was argued down on trying to be a know it all.. Do you really want people who need to study NY, NJ, MN, etc to take your vitals or someone close to you. Etcetcetc so much more. Also there is a young woman who attended the school with me and guess what she doesn't have any education after junior high. As a matter a fact she just contacted me and ask me to take her GED test for her. I have no job and I can't pay off this student loan. I have been working temp jobs here and there and I'm a mother of two. My youngest is disabled. I was expecting to be able to better provide for my family by now and I'm right back to where I started at. Even the counselor who got me left and he left while I was still there. Contact me there is so much more to say and as I read there is no need to write some things it would just be repetitive. allencora@live.com or even call me 347-645-4526

I went to Sanford Brown for almost 2 years to be an X-Ray Tech... Well guess what cant get a job.. I have literally submitted my resume to every place in the country. The only thing I get back is Thank you but we are looking at other applicants.. What the H**l. I studied and worked my tail off.. Now I cant even get a job on what I went to school for... My student loans are now coming due.. These people at Sanford Brown are full of BS...Get this Two people out of Thirty even got a job in the field.. The bad part is I quit a job to go to Sanford Brown.. That is because they had a family member all ready working in the hospital and got them on.... I will join anY law suit against these people...I DON'T RECOMMEND THEM TO ANYONE..BAD/BAD

Hello All,

I understand your frustrations and I am in on getting Sanford Brown Institute for what they did. Please contact me because I was a student there and had a hard time gaining employment and cannot get registered.

I want you guys to think about something else!
I think we need to point fingers at ARDMS too! I would like anyone who completed a sonography/ultrasound program that was not "accredited" according to ARDMS to please email me  with your story. It can be anonymous if you would like but make sure to have a valid email attached to your response so I can update you on what is going on.

If you have not been able to get registered please email me a 1-2 pages explanation on what it has been like. Tell me what school you attended, what year, what happened when you graduated. All the details you can give me.

I will be submitting this to the organization that ARDMS is accredited through and make complaint about the strict and ridiculous criteria needed to take the exam. I will also point out how they have become the industry standard for licensing yet it is not requires by law to be a licensed ultrasound technician through ARDMS. The reason almost 90 % of the medical facilites throughout the country have ARDMS as a requirement is because some how ARDMS has gotten the insurance companies that pay out to these facilites to require ARDMS as a licensing standard. You can't get a job because ARDMS has become a monopoly in the industry and set standard that many cannot live up to. This is greatly affecting our lives because many of us cannot get jobs or are being held back at work because we are not registered or rather cannot become registered because of their licensing requirements. 

I think a lot of sonographers are over looking ARDMS as possible catalyst to this problem. It is acidulous that ARDMS is not required by law but yet you cannot get a job with them. They are basically a group of people that got up one morning said " let's start an organization to regulate sonographers, we'll have them take a test and call it a license and have the insurance companies demand that the medical facilities who hire these individuals require our license." 

It's ridiculous!

Please join me in this fight. Please send your emails to sonographersagainstardms@gmail.com
with your full story.

Thanks

I too have had the same issues as everyone else and am now left with a BIG  loan and no job or certificate....  
Please add me to the list of LAWSUITs...
kirkcyndie@yahoo.com

This school is a RIP OFF!!! I have loans for over 30k for their Ultrasound program 4 years ago and I could not find a job. This school did not tell me that you cannot get a job unless you are a registered ultrasound sonographer. As we were graduating we were than told we would have to work a full year and than we can take the registry test but with that no hospital or facility would hire me because they did not want that liability of hiring a non registered technician. Therefore, I was unemployed for over a year with no help from my school. I now am back in school for nursing but i am stuck paying a loan of $35k for the next 20 years... Are their any lawyers I can contact???

 I am currently attending Sanford Brown Institue in Crasnton. I dont feel ripped off one bit. Maybe its just the schools you are going to or maybe you just didnt get good enough grades. I have great, well qualified teachers. All of which currently work in the Medical Field and have been for 12 to 40 years. All of them have more than one degree and some are still currently going to school for masters in many different things. They are very good teachers and i find the courses very easy to follow. I am getting straight A's in my courses so far and i owe that to those teachers. They are always there if you have questions or need extra help. They do not make you feel rushed in any way to make you feel more comfortable and confident.

 At my orientation they had told us they cannot tell us how much we will make after graduation because every place is different. Also it depends on your grades and professionalism whether or not you get hired. If you just barely pass your classes and dont look and act professional, you will not get hired.

 Many students at my school are getting hired within 3 months of graduation and some get hired at their extern sites. Almost all student in my school are getting A's and B's and i cant speak for all of us when i say we owe it all to our wonderful teachers at Sanford Brown Cranston.

 Also, the school works with you and helps you with financial aid and payment plans. They are very flexible and very helpful. The school also has plenty of service learning opportunities to help you get out there, get your practice and gain experience which will also look good on your resume. Which brings me to another point, they have staff on board just to help you put your resume together and make it perfect and they help you as much as they possible can to find a job as soon as possible by sending you on interviews, giving you lists of places to contact and helping you with your interview skills.

 I think this "Riff Off" is just a way for students who did poorly to get money. If you are paying for an education, it is your job to study and really get that knowledge, Not the school. Also, when you are looking into going to school it is up to you to make sure the school of your choice is accreditted and the programs are accreditted. Sanford Brown is accreditted and so are all of their programs. So i dont believe that you couldnt get jobs because of the school you went to, or that you got hired and they asked to to get recertified.

These are the same issues that are going on at my institute in NYC. The instructors speak little to no english so you are completely lost when it comes to taking notes during lectures and the instructors who do speak english were once students themselves at SBI so they can not teach at all without the internet , Google and webMD.LMAO without the assistance of the net there would be no lessons and on top of the huge language barrier, being uneducated these Instructors as well as alot of the students are extremely UNPROFESSIONAL,RACIST,RUDE,GHETTO and DISRESPECTFUL !!! These are the many reasons why I have been trying to get out of my loan for 13,500 for the MA program. Which so far I have learned nothing except that I AM BEING ROBBED BY SBI OF NYC .

I am currently a student at SBI Tampa and would LOVE to hear more about what is going on in this case. please someone email me about any way i could help out. this 'school' is a complete joke.
thank you
s.nasworthy@yahoo.com

Irene, noticed you posted your issue quite some years ago.  I attended Ultrasound (Elmsford)/ SBI-Whiteplains and have also experienced some if not all issues mentioned by you and many others whom have responded to your post.  Upon completion of my [MA] program, I could barely afford to pay for and maintain my bills, let alone pay on my newly incurred loan debt! Furthermore, was shut down when I attempted to have my "credits" transferred over to a "traditional" college to further advance my health career. For so long I unsuccessfully searched for a group to pursue a class action suit. If the case is still open, please COUNT ME IN!

My job is giving me till Aug. to become a certified M.A. The reason it's killing me is that I graduated from U.D.S in Elmsford N.Y. So after all this time and all the money I paid to become a M.A. My boss is telling me my certification is not recognized by the AMA or AAMA...please help I want in

i am with allof the comments made.it is nothing but a money making scheme that prays on single mothers and women down on there luck.please contact me if there is a class action suit.

These school's act in a unprofessional manner. I've been with friends upon time of registration and these organizations are horrible. I've managed to save my friends tons of money and time from going to these schools. We have started a Facebook fan page everyone should join: http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-Hate-Sanford-Brown-College-and-Its-Affiliates/241627199207788?sk=wall

sandford-brown is a complete rip off. I am currently enrolled there in saint louis at the fenton loacation and trying to get transfered before it is too late. No schools accept they credits i dont know what to do im just pissed off. There are too many students unemployeed and ithe school has a bad rep. i am uynhappy with the staff and i do not like the finanical aid department they seem unconcerned with your matters and questions. They finanical aid reps seem to have a hard time telling me about my finanicail aid information just throwing around a buntch of numbers and not saying anything understandable. I also have a child in elementary school and they do not have flexible class schedules they start too early for her bus arrivial are let out too late for me to pick her up and they seem unconcerned with that also. I am trying to work and go to school but i can fit thet in either. I alos realized that the school classes are just too easy for it to be college like its for play or something. I do not mind that you complete clasees faster that everyone else but i do not ee how you learn and keep the information. I HATE THIS SCHOOL AND I WANT OUT BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE OR I WILL SUE THEM.

Hi my cousin and I both went to Sanford Brown in White Plains. She works has a Medical Assistant getting paid basically nothing and I never got a job as a Medical Assistant. Because of this program I lost interest in a dream of nursing that I had since I was young like four or five years old. Both me and my cousin would love to be apart of class action suit. They told us straight lies and now we are stuck paying these outrageous loans. Can someone please help us or point us in the right direction?

I was just curious, what was the out come of your case? The number that was provided was the number to the school.

I would Love to add my name , Sanford brown promised me to find me a job they charge me $33,000 i graduated  Abdominal/Obgyn 1 and 2 months ago, i am RDMS registered they still NEVER NEVER called me to send me or set me up on any interviews. I paid $12,000 cash so far, i don't have even $ to pay rent or anything i still don't have a job,

on the top of everything they never told me that OBGYN that i was studying for 5 months (Male's 90% never get hired).

They waisted my $, my time, I was wondering if there is any lawsuit going on that i can add my name?

I am looking for more information on complaints against SBI. My e-mail is: (((REDACTED)))


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I went to Sanford brown when it was called ultrasound diagnostic school and i was never able to get a job doing what i spent 14 months in school for and my employer did not pay my  tuition reimbursement  because the school lied about everything and now i am still without the job for which i was in school for in the first place and still stuck with paying the loan and for what. if anyone can please help me i would greatly,greatly,greatly thank you. please if anyone can give me any information and help me and tell me what i can do or who i need to contact about the lawsuit please do so. my email address is (((ROR REDACTED))) thanks a lot any help would be very helpful!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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If you have had problems with Sanford Brown, I can give you info on class action suit. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU WENT TO A DIFFERENT SANFORD BROWN SCHOOL IN ANOTHER CITY OR STATE!!

Go to INDEED, and look for me amnewman2 and respond to my comment with your email and I will send you the information.

***I AM ALSO TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE "EX REP" FROM SANFORD BROWN IN WHITE PLAINS. If you are still on this site and read this, please find me at INDEED. I have no way to get in touch with you.

It's time to stop this company from ruining peoples lives!!!

Hello,
I am a current employee of Sanford Brown Institute-White Plains and I can honestly say that I am sick to my stomach with what goes on here. I know what happeneds and why and how. If you want help in any way I am here to help you. Please let me know what you want and what you want me to do because I want the record straight. I am sick of all the lies.. I can honestly say that I have never ever lied to a student and I never will lie to a student and for that reason they do not like me but you know what tough noogies.. Let me know if you want my help... (((ROR redacted))).. I wish you the best.

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I was a succesful student from Sanford Brown College in Fenton, MO graduating class of 2004. I was lucky and had the right contacts to land a succesful career unlike the majority of my classmates. I am now thinking about going back to school at somewhere with a better reputation. From what I have read this could be nearly impossible and I might be starting from scratch with zero credits. If the credits are not transferable I will most likely being looking for an attorney to help me through this fight. I feel SBC is a fraud and should at least disclose correct credit transfering guidleines during enrollment. I know of several students that have went back for their bachelors degree because no where else would accept the credits that they paid a premium for at Sanford Brown. If anyone is currently in a legal battle or has had succes transferring credits I would love to hear details of your struggle.

Seriously, find an attorney who believes in you and is willing to file a class action suit. I was a member of the class action group who successfully sued Sanford Brown (then UDS) 13 years ago. After contacting several unwilling lawyers in Cleve., a law group in New Jersey finally took the case, won and made a lot of $ for their firm. Then do your homework. Ask school admins direct questions and document every conversation, phone call or email. Ask for a copy of your transcripts (your school must provide access) and make sure that you are aware of every paper in your file. Finally, gather names, addresses and phone numbers of students and former students so that the attorney smart enough to take the case has a place to begin gathering information. Good luck!

Seriously, find an attorney who believes in you and is willing to file a class action suit. I was a member of the class action group who successfully sued Sanford Brown (then UDS) 13 years ago. After contacting several unwilling lawyers in Cleve., a law group in New Jersey finally took the case, won and made a lot of $ for their firm. Then do your homework. Ask school admins direct questions and document every conversation, phone call or email. Ask for a copy of your transcripts (your school must provide access) and make sure that you are aware of every paper in your file. Finally, gather names, addresses and phone numbers of students and former students so that the attorney smart enough to take the case has a place to begin gathering information. Good luck!

Seriously, find an attorney who believes in you and is willing to file a class action suit. I was a member of the class action group who successfully sued Sanford Brown (then UDS) 13 years ago. After contacting several unwilling lawyers in Cleve., a law group in New Jersey finally took the case, won and made a lot of $ for their firm. Then do your homework. Ask school admins direct questions and document every conversation, phone call or email. Ask for a copy of your transcripts (your school must provide access) and make sure that you are aware of every paper in your file. Finally, gather names, addresses and phone numbers of students and former students so that the attorney smart enough to take the case has a place to begin gathering information. Good luck!

Seriously, find an attorney who believes in you and is willing to file a class action suit. I was a member of the class action group who successfully sued Sanford Brown (then UDS) 13 years ago. After contacting several unwilling lawyers in Cleve., a law group in New Jersey finally took the case, won and made a lot of $ for their firm. Then do your homework. Ask school admins direct questions and document every conversation, phone call or email. Ask for a copy of your transcripts (your school must provide access) and make sure that you are aware of every paper in your file. Finally, gather names, addresses and phone numbers of students and former students so that the attorney smart enough to take the case has a place to begin gathering information. Good luck!

I want to be be a part of any class action too. EVERYONE NNEEDS TO KNOW A CLASS ACTION SUIT COVERS ANYONE WHO ATTENDED ANY OF THESE SANFORD BROWN SCHOOLS no matter what state you live in. I attended Ultrasound Diagnostic School, now known as Sanford Brown Institute at 365 Cadwell Dr., Springfield, MA.

Look at how severely their fake school affected my life. They ruined my life...this is what happened to me. My life has been devastated by them failing to give real education.

Jeannette....my story..

I lived 27 years of my life taking care of 3 ill family members full time. When they died I was a 42 year old woman with no skills and no experience. I went and talked to Sanford Brown reps (then it was called Ultrasound Diagnostic School) and I told them I needed a promise that their school was NOT bogus because going there for Medical Assistant training would be my ONE AND ONLY CHANCE at getting an education and job skills and that my life and future depended on the school's validity, accreditation and training skills. They told me countless times they had acceptable accreditation. They did not. Their accreditation is not recognized by the AMA (American Medical Association) or the AAMA (American Association of Medical Assistants).

I was told by the school reps and teachers that I could become a certified Medical Assistant. This is not true because the school does not have the correct accreditation required by the AAMA. The accreditation they hold allows you to become ONLY a registered Medical Assistant. Being a registered Medical ssistant means absolutely NOTHING in the medical world.

I graduated from UDS (Ultrasound Diagnostic School - NOW called Sanford Brown University, in 2000. My grade point average was higher than 4.0 and I graduated at the top of all classes that were there at tthe time. I have a high I.Q. At first I was able to get a few jobs - always temporary jobs. But I always found that my education at UDS/Sanford Brown had NOT prepared me at all for what doctors require of you skillwise! There were very few jobs in the Springfield, MA area for Medical Assistants unless you graduated from an actual college training program with an associates degree.

So I moved to Henderson, NV where there is a great demand for medical assistants. But after eight years I was employed as a Medical Assistant for nothing more than 6 weeks here. Then again for another 6 weeks at a medical office where one doctor threw files at me and verbally degraded me for absolutely no reason. Since then I am told my training school is not considered "viable." So I can't get work!

The training that UDS aka Sanford Brown provided was useless. They always skipped over all of the procedures in the books that we should have been learning and told us we'd learn it all on the job-sites! That is NOT true! They expect you to already know these procedures when you get a job. When I was in school for those 7 months, there were welfare girls there solely so they could continue getting their welfare checks. They had no interest in learning skills to get a job. They disrupted the classes daily. We had several teachers abandon us and the school and quit during the middle of our courses. We were left without teachers and eventually had substitutes. We had teachers who spent all of their classes telling us about their personal lives and relationships and relationship woes! There was no consistency in anything in that school. Do you call this a VIABLE SCHOOL? I don't!

In eight years here I have been employed for ONLY a total of 12 weeks! In 2004 I almost became homeless because of my inability to find work as a Medical Assistant. I am currently living with my boyfriend, which is all I have between me and being homeless! I am broke. I lost my car and had to file banckruptcy. I am virtually penniless. My boyfriend had to pay my UDS/Sanford Brown student loan off for me. I am financially broke, I am spiritually and mentally broke and my heart is broke because the teachers and school reps promised me they were on the up and up, they promised me written letters of reccomendation, and all I got was taken! They knew (because I told them) that after my mother's death, I only had enough money to live off of for a year - long enough to complete their schooling. I told them my life literally depended on the validity of their school and training. They failed me and my life is in ruins. So they KNEW they were screwing me over big time. And the company my boyfriend is employed with is now at risk of closing due to the economy. We could end up homeless! SOMEONE PLEASE HELP! A CIVIL SUIT NEEDS TO BE STARTED!

And my mentor, Ms Terri (Ward) Wyman failed me most of all because I brought all of my concerns about the school to her attention numerous times telling her I was thinking about transferring to Porter and Chester (who had the correct accreditation) but she and Mrs. Kathryn Dearborn (the female dean at the time) would reel me right back in and convince me to stay telling me one time that 'because I was the the top student, that if I left the school, they were afraid everyone else would follow and leave too.' I would voice my concerns to other girls in the class and tell them I was slowly realizing this school was a joke.

During my schooling there I was having heart problems and could not remember the facts of one class we were being tested on. I walked out of the class upset since I was always able to take the tests and score an A. Miss Dearborn tried giving me an oral version of the test. It didn't matter because I could not recall the lessons of the class. This is what she did. SHE LIED AND TOLD ME I PASSED THE ORAL TEST! How could I have...I couldn't answer any of her questions! She told me "now in return I want you to stop telling the other students that this school is a joke! We don't want a revolt of students leaving the school." She passed me on the one test ONLY so I would stop telling the truth - that the school was a JOKE!

If it's also true what I heard about Sanford and Brown (formerly UDS) being closed in Springfield, MASS now it puts me in even more dire straits because now I have no back up to all of the references I had that were all attached to that school. That school was there for one purpose only - to make money from the federal student grants. The more students they dragged in - they better - FOR THEM! But me - I was taken by them, screwed over big time! Where will they be if something happens and I end up homeless? I'll tell you where - NO WHERE BECAUSE THEY WON'T CARE!

Jeannette
Henderson (formerly Chicopee, MA), Nevada
U.S.A.

I am responsing to Irene who is looking for students who attended Sandford Brown Inst. Please leave me a number where I can reach you to join in this class action suit. I have several students who have graduated and we are all in the same situation. We are interested in participating with this suit. So Irene from White Plains, Please contact me!

Yvette from Manhattan

I just finished fighting with the school and the president and I demanded my money back. I just went to HELP ME HOWARD on channel 11 and I hope he responds...maybe if someone else complains we can get them on the news and expose them to everyone!

I want to join the class action suit, just let me know what to do. I went to their Iselin, NJ campus and have been researching on how to get my money back for a couple of years now. This school is horrible, the teachers didn't do much and it was in a high school setting. I decided I no longer wanted to be there and left the school. I asked for a refund and they refused. They took out 2 loans in my name, one of which is a federal loan with a 19.99% INTEREST!!!! I am going out of my mind! The interest is as big as my monthly payment was towards the loan monthly and I could not pay it down. It is now in default and the loan has gone up by more than $4,000 in interest ALONE!!! I really do not think I should be paying this. They lied to me and said I had to join the Medical Assistant program in order to get to the Radiology program! It was BS when I talked to students that were already in their Radiology program. They pushed me into the school and signed me up while I was uninformed. Ripped me off big time!

I to am a victim of this school. Upon admission I was told that the credits were trasferrable and that I would graduate and find a job making $12 an hour. None of that happened. I tried to continue my education and found no one took these credits and I had a black cloud because I graduated from this school.

The career services division was a piece of crap. I found my own job after a year. Yes I was unemployed after graduation for over a year. No one would hire for more then $8.00 a hour. I left a job paying 10.50 to got to school. It was a waste of time and alot of heartache, and money. If there is a lawsuit I want in. I want my money back the school is ripoff.