• Report: #608193

Complaint Review: Santander Consumer USA, Drive Financial

  • Submitted: Fri, May 28, 2010
  • Updated: Fri, July 02, 2010

  • Reported By: JOHN — TULSA Oklahoma United States of America
Santander Consumer USA, Drive Financial
1010 W. MOCKINBIRD LANE DALLAS, Texas United States of America

Santander Consumer USA, Drive Financial DRIVE FINANCIAL VERY INSULTING, MAKING PERSONAL INQUIRIES THAT ARE NONE OF THEIR AFFAIR, VERY DISRESPECTFUL IN ALL BUSINEES CATEGORIES, VERY UNPROFEESIONAL, DEMANDING, THREATENING..... DALLAS, Texas

*Consumer Comment: Terrible customer service

*Consumer Comment: You have nothing better to do

*Consumer Comment: Santander Reps Need Schooled.

*General Comment: i understand

*Consumer Comment: I'm Really, Really Curious!

*Consumer Comment: Finally a Santander employee speaks...foot in mouth

*Consumer Comment: and to add

*Consumer Comment: Extensions

*Consumer Comment: Reyna says.

*Consumer Comment: It's business

*Consumer Comment: Logical thinking

*Consumer Comment: Lets Look At The Facts, Here...

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ON 5/28/2010, RECIEVED CALL FROM SANTANDER CONSUMER USA/DRIVE FINANCIAL AT APPROX. 1050A.M., A MALE CALLED ABOUT THE AUTO CONTRACT THAT WAS PAST DUE BY 90 DAYS AND WHAT I WAS GOING TO DO ABOUT IT. TOLD HIM, THIS CONTRACT WAS ENTERED BY WIFE PRIOR TO MARRIAGE AND THAT ARRANGEMENTS WERE MADE THE NIGHT BEFORE ON A SPECIFIC AREEMENT ON A PAYMENT TO KEEP IT FROM BEING REPOSSESSED AS WELL AS UNEMPLOYED SINCE DECEMBER 2009. TOLD HIM I WAS WITH HER WHEN SHE MADE THE CALL THE PRIOR EVENING,THEN HE GOT IGNORANT, TELLING ME I DON'T I KNOW WHATS GOING ON IN MY HOUSE. I TOLD HIM.... "LISTEN HERE YOU ARROAGNT PUNK, DON'T CALL HERE ON MY JOB THREATENING ME WITH REPOSSESSION AND MAKING PERSONAL REFERENCES TO MY HOUSEHOLD".

HE SAID I WAS MAKING A BUSINESS CALL TO GET A PAYMENT FROM YOU, I TOLD HIM ARRANGEMENTS WERE ALREADY MADE THE NIGHT BEFORE AND GAVE HIM THE NAME OF THE PERSON I MADE IT WITH AND THE AMOUNT THAT WAS AGREED UPON, HE RESPONDED I HAVE NO DOCUMENTATION ON THAT, TOLD HIM HE WAS A LIAR AND SOFORTH AND HE WAS A POOR REPRESENATIVE IN ANY WORLD OF BUSINESS, AND IS, KIND OF LIKE TRAILER TRASH, THEN HE HUNG UP ON ME. I CALLED THEM BACK, ASKED THEM WHO WAS IT THAT CALLED ME ON THE LAST ENTRY INTO MY ACCOUNT MNUTES BEFORE, THEY WOULD'NT DISCLOSE THAT. PERHAPS MAYBE IT WOULD BE GOOD TO LET THE D*MN CAR GO, ITS NOT WORTH IT, FOR THEY STAND TO LOSE THOUSANDS ON IT IF REPOSSED, WIFE STANDS TO GAIN THOUSANDS BY NOT PAYING ON IT FOR SHE'S UNEMPLOYED.................SOME OF THOSE FOLKS ARE JUST PIGS,NOT ALL, JUST THE ONES I TALK TO.  

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 05/28/2010 09:12 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Santander-Consumer-USA-Drive-Financial/DALLAS-Texas-75247/Santander-Consumer-USA-Drive-Financial-DRIVE-FINANCIAL-VERY-INSULTING-MAKING-PERSONAL-IN-608193. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Terrible customer service

AUTHOR: MadConsumer - (USA)

I had my auto loan through a more respectable company HSBC.  The next thing I know I get mail saying that my auto loan is now through Santander.  I have never had a problem with HSBC.  However Santander are a bunch of idiots and liers.  I never receive my monthly statement in the mail, 1 rep told me they were having some issues with there outgoing mail.  Then finaly another rep told me it is because I am not registered to receive mail.  After me telling them that I will no longer send any payment in with out receiving a statement did they finally do something.  They sent me one statement in the mail.  Telling me to use the PROVIDED envelope to send in my payment.  Guess what, NO ENVELOPE was including in my bill.  These people are all idiots!!!!!! HSBC thanks for selling all of your accounts to such moron's...
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#2 Consumer Comment

You have nothing better to do

AUTHOR: Reyna - (U.S.A.)

Than to sit on the internet and put down people, who do to this economy and the double digit unemployment rate, are truly suffering.  You must be a cold hearted person, and you will have to stand before God one day and answer to him for your lack of humanity.  Remember what other people are going through could very well happen to you.
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#3 Consumer Comment

Santander Reps Need Schooled.

AUTHOR: Jim - (USA)

If you work for Santander, with all due respect, you do need a bit more education on how to handle people.  The complaint level is high.  Let me help...

1.  Remember, no matter what, the customer is always right!

2.  When calling, always talk like a friend.  Tell the customer you and your company "understand".  Don't be afraid to throw in a few sniffles and always refer to the customer as "honey".

3.  Often times you will be dealing with the unemployed.  Have compassion.  Never call before 2 P. M.  Give the unemployed time to sleep since they have nothing better to do.

4.  If the customer tells you she's a "single mother", show respect and compassion.  Remember, its difficult for a girl in such circumstances.  Having six kids from six guys isn't her fault.  And you shouldn't be judgemental. 

5.  Santander isn't the only bill they need to pay!  Basic living expenses need to come first.  Please have understanding!  It isn't unusual to spend $100 per week on cigarettes.

6.  Remember, if the customer has a financial windfall, they will pay you.  Always be supportive of their playing of Powerball.

7.  Medical reasons for not paying are valid and everybody knows how much medicines and other medical helps cost.  Be kind.  Recommend a less expensive wine or beer.

8.  If the customer says they've been "out of it" because of a death in the family, always offer to send flowers, even if the same relative has died three times.  Remember, they said they were "out of it".  Come on, be kind.

9.  If the customer says they can't get a checking account because of a history of overdraft fees, show understanding.  Agree with them that the big banks are out to get them.

10.  REmember Santander is a BIG, BIG company.  If they say they can't pay, tell them, "I understand".  Tell them to send anything they can whenever they can.  That is the hallmark of excellent customer service.

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#4 General Comment

i understand

AUTHOR: Julieo - (U.S.A.)

they do the same to us call all hours of the day and ask personal question like why haven't i made my payment yet and they will ask why not and i answered b/c I don't have the money and they asked me well why don't you have the money and I will say b/c i'm not working and sorry if it come's down to making the car payment and feeding my kids then the car isn't getting paid. One time I made payment arrangments and they called 20 mintues later and the next day and next day  etc.. and they always say the same thing we don't keep that stuff on file our system just automaticly calls you. and I made a mistake of making my payment through there automatied system on our cell which they did not have the number too I didn't even speak to anyone and the started calling that number too and they call from all different kinds of areas codes, like 619 and 469. I hate this company can I ask for a different car company?
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#5 Consumer Comment

I'm Really, Really Curious!

AUTHOR: Jim - (USA)

Which one of us works for the lender?

Lets see...

It's just got to be one who stands up for paying your bills on time.  No, maybe its somebody who believes if you loose your job, you should go out and get another so that you can honor your agreements and commitments.  After all, to do that is just so, so unwise.

And lets see, somebody who advocates keeping written records of your bank account so that you don't run up over draft fee after over draft fee must work for the bank!  You better watch somebody like that...he/she is part of the conspiracy by the banks to "get the little guy"! 

 

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#6 Consumer Comment

Finally a Santander employee speaks...foot in mouth

AUTHOR: dannyshihtzu - (United States of America)

Thanks for your explanation of Santander's 'business model'. I was  TWO days late on a single payment yet I hate them dumped on me by Triad Financial. There is no justification for their treatment of their 'customers' (let's call them inmates to get out of BusinessSpeak). They are liars. They are thieves. They are usurers. You little lecture on unemployment is arrogant and stupid; do you actually think people should owe their livelihood to a third-rate finance company? May you lose your job, run out of unemployment and live in your car that is unpaid for and then repossessed. I'm sure you'll spend your time on complaint boards afterwards lecturing victims of parasitic banking practices. Screw your Market principles. Peoples lives are being damaged. Go get another job. You're fired here.
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#7 Consumer Comment

and to add

AUTHOR: Reyna - (U.S.A.)

Oh by the way I bought a house a month after I had a repo and got a very good rate!! so yes it is possible.
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#8 Consumer Comment

Extensions

AUTHOR: Reyna - (U.S.A.)

GEE isn't that what extensions are for, if a person gets behind they have what is called extensions.  They should offer a 2-3 month extension to get the person caught up and then if they still fall behind then go from there.  You know bad things happen to good people, not everyone is trying to rip off a company, if they take a persons vehicle how are they supposed to get to work or find work.
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#9 Consumer Comment

Reyna says.

AUTHOR: Flynrider - (USA)

"What you fail to understand is just because someone is on the hook for the difference does not mean the company will ever receive the money, I do not know one single person who has had a reposession that ever paid the company another dime."

  What you fail to understand is that your experience is limited.  There are dozens of posts on this very site from people who are being sued for the balance of the loan on a reposessed car.  Even if they don't pay, it will follow them like a dark cloud over their credit history for years.  That's often why people decide to pay up eventually.  Every try to buy a house with a reposession and a judgement hanging over your head?

So it would seem to me that it would be in the companies best interest to work with the customer to get them caught up and let them keep the vehicle rather than sell it for less and loose the money. "

   There's a concept in the financial world that you may have heard of.  It's called "cutting your losses".  At a certain point, the lender has to know that they are not going to get paid and they'd be better off taking the vehicle and selling it for what they can get.  This is particularly true for subprime lenders like Sandtander.   Their customers have already proven that they are more likely to default.   In this case, the borrower has been unemployed since December.   Is there a realistic chance that she will be coming current (including back interest) in the forseeable future? 

  In most examples on this site the phrase "work with the customer" translates into "lose more money by allowing them not to pay".  I think you'll find that very few subprime lenders will be willing to "work with the customer" that way.  It's just the nature of the business.

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#10 Consumer Comment

It's business

AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)

Reposession is tool that lenders can use as a guarantee to make sure that the loan gets paid on.  Honestly how many people would pay on a car loan if they knew it wouldn't get reposessed.  I am not picking on this poster, but based on what they wrote can you say that they would have made arrangements if there was no "threat" of reposession.


Do lenders want to repoess vehicles..no.  They would rather have the loan paid in full.  But just how long should a company let a customer "slide"?  30 Days, 90 Days, 6 Months, 1 Year?  At what point should the lender actually say "enough is enough".  If they do it sooner than later they may actually get an extra few hundred dollars for the car at auction. 

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#11 Consumer Comment

Logical thinking

AUTHOR: Reyna - (U.S.A.)

What you fail to understand is just because someone is on the hook for the difference does not mean the company will ever receive the money, I do not know one single person who has had a reposession that ever paid the company another dime.  So it would seem to me that it would be in the companies best interest to work with the customer to get them caught up and let them keep the vehicle rather than sell it for less and loose the money. Especially with the economy like it is right now with so many people still unable to find work.  The unemployment rate has not dropped that much. Makes since to me.
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#12 Consumer Comment

Lets Look At The Facts, Here...

AUTHOR: Jim - (USA)

First, if the car was bought prior to the marriage and you are NOT on the contract, then you need to tell them that and not continue in the conversation.

90 days past due and they haven't yet done a repo?  Your wife is extremely lucky. 

But lets get to your ending remarks.  If they do a repo, your wife is STILL on the hook for the contract amount.  If you are on the contract, you are on the hook. 

Unemployed since December???  Your wife needs to get on a payroll somewhere to get the cash flow up.  Don't tell me there are no jobs.  It may not be a glamorous job but it will bring in money and thats whats needed now. 

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