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Complaint Review: Saxon Motgage Services, Inc. Saxon Mortgage Services

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  • Submitted: Thu, December 25, 2008
  • Updated: Sat, July 25, 2009

  • Reported By:Chico California
Saxon Motgage Services, Inc. Saxon Mortgage Services
4708 Mercantile Drive N. Ft. Worth, Texas U.S.A.

Saxon Motgage Services, Inc. Saxon Mortgage Services Conflicting Info, Bait & Switch Tactics, False Allegations Regarding Receipts of Documents Ft. Worth Texas

*Consumer Comment: Fight back

*Consumer Comment: The real problem is our "CREDIT SYSTEM ABUSES"

*Consumer Comment: FTC is a joke, they just enjoy the paychecks taxpayers pay!

*Consumer Comment: File complaints with the Federal Trade Commission and Office of Thrift Supervision

*Consumer Comment: I'm In!

*Consumer Comment: The American Revenge Membership:Your organization will not be able to do anything. I wish you all the best.

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THE AMERICAN REVENGE MEMBERSHIP

TODAY...DECEMBER 24TH, 2008..THE AMERICAN REVENGE MEMBERSHIP IS BORN. TODAY, AMERICANS, HARD WORKING AND HONEST, THOSE OF US BY THE MILLIONS WHOM HAVE BEEN KICKED IN THE TEETH, LIED TO, DECIEVED, TRICKED, AND THROWN OUT INTO THE COLD WHILE THESE SAME FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS TOOK OUR MONIES, GAVE THEIR CEO'S FAT 15 MILLION DOLLAR PLUS BONUSES, AND SOME OF THOSE SUMS GIVEN TO THEM WERE USED TO BUY OFF OUR ELECTED LEADERS WITH CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTIONS.

THESE VERY SAME FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, USING THE VERY SAME GREED NOW BEING DEPLOYED UPON OUR HOMES AND FAMILIES, THEIR UNCONTROLLABLE LUST FOR MORE AND MORE GREED, HAS AS OF NOW, BEEN DETERMINED BY THE NATION'S TOP ECONOMISTS AS THE ROOT AND CAUSE MILLIONS OF INNOCENT AMERICANS LOST THEIR JOBS, LOST THEIR EXCELLENT CREDIT STANDINGS, AND LOST THEIR FUTURES.

WHERE WAS OUR GOVERNMENT? CAN ANY LAW ABIDING CITIZEN NAME ONE ELECTED MEMBER OF CONGRESS OR THE U.S. SENATE THAT DID NOT TAKE A CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION FROM ONE OF THESE INSTITUTIONS? NO YOU CAN'T.

TODAY, WE AMERICANS HAVE HAD ENOUGH. WE ARE FIGHTING BACK. WE ARE GOING TO USE THE TWO WEAPONS NO LAWYER CAN PROTECT THESE PEOPLE AND THEIR INSTITUTIONS FROM. OUR WEAPONS WILL BE FREEDOM OF SPEECH AND THE LAWS AVAILABLE TO US AS WEAPONS TO FIGHT BACK WITH. WE ARE THE CLASSES, BEING LOWER TO MIDDLE WHOM THESE INSTITUTIONS HAVE USED TO GET RICH OFF OF. TODAY, OUR MEMBERSHIP WILL BEGIN TO GROW FROM THE HURT, PAIN AND DECEIT THAT ALL OF US HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO BY THEM. WE WILL PROVE THAT INSTEAD OF GIVING THEM OUR MONEY, WE WOULD RATHER USE OUR RESOURCES TO PUT THEM OUT OF BUSINESS.

WE THE VICTIMS, MILLIONS OF US WHOM HAD OR WILL HAVE OUR HOMES TAKEN FROM US, AND AS USUAL BEFORE AN ELECTION, LISTENED TO THE SAME OLD POLITICIAN FALSE PROMISES, WE THE PEOPLE WERE FORCED TO STAND BY HELPLESSLY AND WATCH AS THE GREEDY WERE PAID OFF BY OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS OWN NEED AND GREED FOR POWER. OUR CONGRESS, HAVING BAILED OUT THESE VERY SAME INSTITUTIONS WHOM VICTIMIZED US, HAVE BEGUN FUNDING THEM WITH OUR VERY OWNED MONIES. THESE BANKS THANKED BOTH CONGRESS US BY SHOWING NO COMPASSION, NOR HELP TO HOMEOWNERS, BY REFUSING TO EXTEND CREDIT, RAISING CREDIT STANDARDS THAT MILLIONS WILL NO LONGER HAVE ACCESS TO BECAUSE OF THE FICO SYSTEM, AND FINALLY, BY THEIR EMPLOYING COLLECTION AGENCIES WITH OUR BAIL OUT MONIES GIVEN TO THEM BY US THE TAXPAYING CITIZENS OF AMERICA, IN WHICH THEY NOW HAVE BEGUN TO GO AFTER ALL OF US HAVING NO JOBS AND TAKE OUR HOMES.

TODAY, WE THE MEMBERSHIP...WILL GO AFTER THE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS SUCH AS SAXON MORTGAGE SERVICES, INC. WHOSE COMPANY POLICIES ARE ALEDGED TO HAVE VICTIMIZED, MISLED, PROVIDED FALSE ALLEGATIONS REGARDING RECEIPTS OF DOCUMENTED MATERIALS SENT TO THEM, AND BY SAXON'S OWN EMPLOYEE'S HAVING VERBALLY AND BY DOCUMENTED OR FAXED LETTERS, FURTHER REQUESTED THE SAME DOCUMENTS OVER AND OVER, SOME AS MANY AS SEVEN TIMES FROM THE SAME CUSTOMER. THESE SAME ALEDGED ADMISSIONS, WE BELIEVE WOULD PROVE THAT A PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR EXISTS. THOSE PATTERNS WHICH ARE IDENTIFIED AND DOCUMENTED IN MANY OF THE SAME, BUT INDIVIDUAL NUMBERS OF COMPLAINTS RECEIVED BY MANY WEBSITES AND REQUESTS FOR HELP THAT WERE ALSO SENT TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AND GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSUMER PROTECTION WENT UNINVESTIGATED OR IGNORED BY THESE SAME AGENCIES.

THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT WERE FEDERALLY PROTECTED UNDER BOTH STATE AND FEDERAL LAW HAVING BEEN REQUESTED BY SAXON MORTGAGE SERVICES, AND ALL SUCH LOSES OF THESE PROTECTED MATERIALS AT ISSUE, WERE AS SAXON'S FORMAL DENIALS, THE NEGLIGENCE OF THE SENDER. AFTER ALEDGEDLY FAILING TO PROVIDE REASONABLE CARE AND SECURITY OF THE SENDER'S DOCUMENTS REQUESTED BY SAXON, DELAYS THAT ALEDGEDLY INCLUDED THE USE OF BAIT AND SWITCH TACTICS, WERE AS MANY COMPLAINTS ALEDGE; USED AS WEAPONS IN WHICH TO CONFUSE AND DEGRADE THEIR CUSTOMERS.

AS USUAL, OUR LAWMAKERS IGNORED OR STOOD BY AND DID NOTHING AS THOUSANDS OF COMPLAINTS AND REQUESTS FOR HELP WERE REQUESTED FROM THE NUMEROUS GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES THEY THOUGHT WOULD HELP THEM. BECAUSE, AS CONGRESS HAS ACTED, AND THE RESCUE OF THESE INSTITUTIONS HAVING BEEN IT'S PRIORITY, OUR TAXPAYER DOLLARS ARE NOW BEING USED TO PROTECT THOSE CAUSING THE HARM INSTEAD OF PROTECTING THE INNOCENT FROM THOSE DOING THE HARM. TODAY WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE MUST ACT IN SELF DEFENSE.

BY BANDING TOGETHER AS ONE AND BRINGING OUR OWN RESOURCES INTO PLAY, WE CAN AND WILL BRING ABOUT, LEGALLY AND PEACEFULLY, THE DEMISE OF THESE INSTITUTIONS. AS WE SOUGHT THE PROTECTION NEEDED BY ALL LAW ABIDING CITIZENS FROM THOSE WHOM SEEK TO HARM US, OUR OWN AMERICAN MILITARY WAS FORMED IN ORDER TO PROTECT US FROM FOREIGN INVADERS. THOSE APPOINTED AND ELECTED THAT WERE SUPPOSED TO PROTECT US FROM INSIDE OUR OWN BORDERS HAVE IGNORED US WITH THEIR WEAPONS OF BEAURACRACY.

TODAY WE WILL BEGIN, AND MILLIONS OF US WILL JOIN AND FORM THE AMERICAN REVENGE MEMBERSHIP... IT WILL BE OUR MISSION...TO TAKE THEIR JOBS FROM THEM AND PUT THESE PEOPLE OUT OF BUSINESS. USING THE THE SAME TOOLS THEY USED AGAINST US, AGAINST THEM.

IN 30 DAYS, ALL AMERICANS OF OUR MEMBERSHIP WILL HAVE A WEBSITE IN WHICH TO JOIN. WE WILL PROMOTE EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON HOW TO FIGHT BACK WITH THEIR VOICES AND WALLET, WE WILL TARGET THE PRISON SENTENCES THE FICO SYSTEM HAS HANDED DOWN ON US BY THOSE COLLECTION AGENCIES THAT EXTORTED US, THREATENED US, AND EMBARRASSED US ON BEHALF OF THESE FINANCIAL ORGANIZATIONS.

TODAY, ONE MEMBER JOINING AFTER ANOTHER, WE WILL BEGIN TO HARRASS THEM. TODAY, OUR ORGANIZATION WILL BEGIN THE PROCESS OF BECOMING THE LARGEST VOICE AMERICA HAS EVER FELT WITH OUR SOLE PURPOSE BEING, TO CHANGE HOW WE, DECENT, LAW ABIDING CITIZENS ARE TREATED AND USED. THESE ORGANIZATIONS WHO USED OUR MONETARY WEAKNESSES TO RUN US OVER; TODAY...WE WILL START THE PROCESS OF GETTING REVENGE ON THEM...TODAY WE WILL BEGIN OUR REVENGE AND FIGHT BACK!!!

I AM A VIETNAM VET, I SERVED MY COUNTRY HONORABLY, I BECAME AN HONEST AND LAW ABIDING CITIZEN, AND LIKE MILLIONS MORE SUCH AS MYSELF, I PAID MY TAXES. TODAY, I AM SAYING... NO MORE!!!, AND I VOLUNTEER MYSELF TO USE ALL MY INTELLECTUAL ASSETS, MY CONTACTS THAT ARE POWERFUL, MY FRIENDS, PAST AND PRESENT, MY LEARNED EDUCATION, THE TRAINING I RECEIVED FROM OUR PRECIOUS MILITARY, MY FREEDOM OF SPEECH, MY HARD EARNED MONIES, NO MATTER HOW LONG IT TAKES... TO TAKE BACK AND DEMAND FROM THEM WHAT THEY TOOK FROM ME, AND FROM ALL OF US WHO JOIN. MY ELECTED LEADERS WILL WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT...RESPECT ME AS A CITIZEN OF THIS COUNTRY, AS A MORE IMPORTANT ASSET THEN THOSE OF THEIR CAMPAIGN CONTRIBUTION CLIENTS...FOR IF THEY DON'T, WE WILL, BY OUR VOICES AND VOTES, TAKE THEIR JOB FROM THEM AND PUT THEM OUT INTO THE STREET AS THEY DID TO US.

TODAY...WASHINGTON D.C. WILL HEAR OUR MESSAGE: "WE'VE TAKEN ENOUGH FROM THOSE WHOSE ONLY PURPOSE WAS TO USE US...NOW IT'S OUR TURN".

TO JOIN, PLEASE POST YOUR COMPLAINT ABOUT MORTGAGE SERVICE COMPANIES AND SEND THEM TO THIS REPORT. WE WILL BE FORMING A BOARD OF DIRECTORS WITH MEMBERS FROM EVERY STATE. WE WILL BE RECRUITING MEMBERS AND VOLUNTEERS. WE WILL BE GATHERING THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF DISCOVERY FOR OUR LAWYERS TO FIGHT WITH, WE WILL BE FORMING THE AMERICAN REVENGE MEMBERSHIP WEBSITE THAT ALL OF US CAN CALL OUR HEADQUARTERS. WE WILL USE THE MEDIA AND THE INTERNET AS OUR VOICE. WE WILL USE DONATIONS TO HIRE THE SAME LEGAL SYSTEM THEY USED AGAINST US IN WHICH TO ENGAGE THESE COMPANIES LIKE SAXON MORTGAGE SERVICES, INC. AND FORCE THEM TO DEPLETE THEIR ASSETS THROUGHOUT THE LEGAL ARENA BY WAY OF CHALLENGES AND CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS.

WE WILL TARGET AND EDUCATE OUR STATE ELECTED LEADERS AND JUDICIAL APPOINTMENTS TO BRING ABOUT LEVELING THE PLAYING FIELD, AND LET THEM KNOW THAT AS OF TODAY, ANY ELECTED OFFICIAL WHOM SUPPORTS THE TACTICS USED BY THESE COMPANIES...THEY WILL BE VOTED OUT...BANKS THAT SUPPORT THESE COMPANIES...WE, OUR MEMBERSHIP WILL WITHDRAW OUR FUNDS FROM THOSE BANKS UNTIL THEY CEASE TO DO BUSINESS WITH THE KIND OF COMPANIES LIKE THOSE AS SAXON MORTGAGE SERVICES, INC.

WE WILL FIGHT FOR NEW REGULATORY POWERS THAT PUTS THE CONSUMERS INTERESTS ABOVE THOSE THAT PREY ON OUR VERY EXISTENCE. THE FEDERAL RESERVE, THE WHITE HOUSE AND OUR PRESIDENT WILL BECOME AWARE OF OUR VOICE. "WE WANT CHANGE...THE KIND OF CHANGE THAT PROTECTS US AND NOT THE GREED". FROM THIS DAY FORWARD...YOU TAKE MY HOME...I TAKE YOUR JOB....THIS IS OUR MISSION...TO TAKE PEACEFUL, LAW ABIDING, REVENGE ON THOSE THAT HURT OUR FAMILIES AND OUR CHILDREN WHEREVER THEY MAY BE.

PLEASE JOIN US...AFTER LOOSING YOUR HOME, CREDIT AND DIGNITY...WHAT ELSE HAVE YOU GOT LEFT TO LOSE? GOD BLESS YOU ALL!!!!


SINCERELY,

THE AMERICAN REVENGE MEMBERSHIP

The ARM
Chico, California
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 12/25/2008 06:12 PM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Saxon-Motgage-Services-Inc-Saxon-Mortgage-Services/Ft-Worth-Texas-96137/Saxon-Motgage-Services-Inc-Saxon-Mortgage-Services-Conflicting-Info-Bait-Switch-Tacti-404868. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Fight back

AUTHOR: Vengence - (U.S.A.)

I have been having problems with Saxon and several collection agencies as well. These people live under the assumption that they can just get away with anything because they are rich. They forget one important fact. They have no talent, no real skills, and lets face it, without us they have no existence. I feel it is time we started showing the owners of companies like Saxon that they can't play without paying for it. I operate a low budget film company in philadelphia. I threatened Saxon that I would film the testimony of anyone screwed by Saxon Mortgage for free. The files would be up loaded on every online net work, tagged in any movie I release, and eventually formed into a documentary. Saxon did get nervous they contacted me within a few hours. They are scared. Lets take advantage of it. I can film anyone in Delaware, PA, Jersey, and Maryland. I ask that someone work the North, center, and west and south of the country. Send your videos to me in the mail or through youtube my screen name is Sabermovie. We'll link up all the files and keep putting them out. Don't worry about the technical end, my people can handle that. Once these videos start getting made I'll work out a a distribution method based on the content. To prove I have these capabilities check out my movies on Netflix, Block Buster and Amazon. Don't rent them (trust me most of you won't like the movies) just look and see that I'm for real. "Merc Force", "Death from Beyond I and II", and you'll find clips on youtube. Full name James Panetta. Forget the government for now, these people must learn that there is no rest for the wicked. Perhaps I have a flare for the dramatic but with my day jobs I have always served the community in some way like the rest of my family. We were all soldiers, teachers, recreation workers, and cops.
Aside from making the videos I also ask other people to do some simple things. If you are the member of any clergy, now is the time to practice what you preach. Condemn the actions of companies like Saxon in public. I may have my issues with religion in general, but now is the time to put that aside and work together. You FBI agents and Cops out there, you claim to protect and serve, now's your chance. We are being bleed dry by people who skirt your laws everyday and laugh at you while they do it. Find some dirt on them, and we'll let it fall off the back of a truck so we can use it. Teachers, blast these guys for a few moments at the beginning of your classes. Let the kids know the names of the people who take all their parents money. Doctors, if you have a patient who is under attack by a creditor, cut them a break on the bill, remember that oath, time to use it. Politicians, what can I say, do your job for once. What do you have to loose its not like we can get rid of you, what do you real have to loose. Unless you guys really are a bunch of cowards, no pressure.
From that I learned one thing, little people can win battles if they are just willing to fight. I say lets fight, lets not make it easy for these companies. If they are going to take from us, then lets make them work for it. The worst that can happen is that nothing changes, the best is that Saxon and other predators like them get what they have coming. This message will be posted in as many online locations as possible. email mercforce2046@yahoo.com. If you have little there really isn't much to loose in the end.
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#2 Consumer Comment

The real problem is our "CREDIT SYSTEM ABUSES"

AUTHOR: Bill C - (U.S.A.)

I agree that companies like Saxton Mtg. are abusive but lets remember who lets them abuse us! Our 3 credit agentcies make billions off of this abuse and has such large lobby powers in washington its impossible to stop them! There answer is to file a complaint with them on the very company that spends thousands every year with them to report this false information!!!!!! My opinion is to take your club and make it a public club that has a legitimate board with members joining to pay in a small fee every month which can be leveraged in order to operate our own low interest credit system to finally bring people out of debt. This way it does not matter anymore we will control our own destiny. Many classes of immigrants have done this in the past and have/are doing very well!!! I would be the first to join because I know anything from here on in govt. fixes are just temp. band-aids and will not last long. There is alot more to this but I have tried to keep it short and to the point.
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#3 Consumer Comment

FTC is a joke, they just enjoy the paychecks taxpayers pay!

AUTHOR: Leroy - (U.S.A.)

I have contacted the FTC and all you get is a canned reply! There are no Gov agency's poised to help. All they do is earn a paycheck, but do nothing to earn it as far as followup. My case was outright theft, but no agency's will touch it! Ask yourself this question! When was the last time you saw someone tried and convicted for these crimes. That would stop it!
As it is, they pillage and plunder with no intervention!
LeRoy
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#4 Consumer Comment

File complaints with the Federal Trade Commission and Office of Thrift Supervision

AUTHOR: Laurie - (U.S.A.)

They cannot ignore complaints that come in via these government agencies.

The FTC compiles complaint data and OTS works on your behalf to resolve the matter quickly.
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#5 Consumer Comment

I'm In!

AUTHOR: Austex - (U.S.A.)

You are right Chico! What's the site? Where do I sign up? I wrote the post a few days ago about emailing Saxon and cc'd everyone and their dog on the email and got results. I know it wasn't 10's of thousands of dollars, but it was something, and my Congressman, Senators, State Rep all know about my plight (Texas). Everyone needs to email their leaders, over and over again until someone calls you. Get a hold of someones email at Saxon, how ever you can, and email them like I did . . . it couldn't hurt and it might help.
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#6 Consumer Comment

The American Revenge Membership:Your organization will not be able to do anything. I wish you all the best.

AUTHOR: Ripoffsaxon - (U.S.A.)

My attorney researched over 1000 complaints from consumers and homes are being foreclosed every day held by Saxon Mortgage. I went directly to Congress, Washington and Hud, no one cares what is happening on main street, the banks and their employees are racking up on the money. I had documents that were emailed to me by Saxon and I also hold eight recorded phone conversations, they are just a ripoff mortgage company and continue to ripoff consumers on a daily basis. I will tell you this, at some point it will end and Saxon will have to justiify their predatory ways of doing business. I will not stop until I do just that. My mortgage status was fine until Saxon purchased my loan. There is life after foreclosure. Yes they have ruined my credit history, but the emotional end of it is over for me and I will move on. Saxon your day will come.
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