- Report: #710535
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Complaint Review: Scentura Creations
Scentura Creations5783 Sheridan Boulevard Arvada, Colorado United States of America
Scentura Creations A former high-ranking Distributor spills his guts. Arvada, Colorado
Aside from correcting minor spelling and grammatical reconstruction, it is reproduced here in it's entirety.
"I was a former Regional Manager for Scentura Creations back in 1995 to 1996. I believe I am in a postion to reveal more information than anybody else here.
For those of you who don't understand what a Regional Manager is, I will explain.
The first level is Branch Office. This is the first level you acheive after training.
The next level is Distribution Center. A DC works where you had your interview. A DC works monitoring the Branch Office
The next level is Regional Office. RO's are similar to DC's. RO's monitor the DC's and all of their Branch Offices.
The final level is Division Manager, the very top.
I rose from the ranks as a Branch Office to DC, than onto RO after promoting others to DC.
Now to begin: Yes, we opened new offices all the time. The real question is, can you survive the time it takes to get to that first level on pretty much ZERO income?
Anybody here telling you they made money during the Training Phase is full of it. I was there longer than most people. I oversaw many offices and had 1000's of people comming through my own. Most people who defend Scentura have not been in the system long enough to know the real deal, and are still in the brainwashing phase.
While the fact that new offices are always opening is true, the entire process involved is a lie. Ads are published that clearly state SALARY. During interviews, new hires are led to believe stories about SALARIES and BENEFITS. This is also false. Why not tell the truth from the very beginning? Because nobody would stay, period! This is why people are mislead from the beginning. It is the only way to keep people comming back.
Next, we are taught to lie. Taught to lie about how much money we were making, the cars we drove, the homes we owned. The truth was, as office owners, we were all broke.
Now, for anyone who wants to fire back that I was a Weak Piece of Sh!t, a Blow Out, etc., I made it one hell of a lot further than you, and I was familiar with many, many offices... and all were struggling financially. All of them.
Everday, I watched people (good people) lose everything. Especially during training. Once, I had a Husband and Wife team in our program. They showed up one day in a U-HAUL truck with everything they owned in it, and also had two small children with them and no place to go because they believed that much in the 'opportunity'. They had lost their home.
My Regional Manager was robbed at gunpoint by a former employee. If I hadn't left minutes earlier, I too could have been a victim. He was later robbed again by another employee at his home. his children were taken hostage, and his wife shot. This news story can be found online to prove I'm not kidding. It happened in the town of Cockeysville, MD in 1996.
(Editor's Note: I indeed found this story online. Google 'The Baltimore Sun August 7 1996 Senna Dent Robbery)
The bottom line is this: YES, we opened new offices, but this doesn't mean success. Many times we were forced to buy additional bottles from the company just to keep our numbers up. So much for profit.
One person here has stated the company has been around for 35 years. While this is true, I find it amazing that new offices are continually being opened. One would think that if the 'opportunity' was so good, relatively permanent offices would be established already with very little room for new growth.
How is it a company 35 years old has nothing but new offices? And where are all the people that should have been around 35, 25, 20, etc. years? There aren't any! They don't exist. Only a handful of Division Managers at the top, and Larry Hahn himself, have been around that long.
(Editor's Note: To put that last paragraph more succinctly, New offices are always OPENING because old offices are always CLOSING)
A few years ago, I had a girfriend who got mixed up with Scentura. This created many fights between us, because they had done a thorough job brainwashing her already, and wouldn't listen to me. She stated how her 21 year old manger already owned expensive cars, lived in a 6000 sq ft home, blah, blah, blah. I went over to his office and called him on it.
Turned out he was living in an apartment with his parents and driving a 13 year old Ford Explorer (also owned by his folks).
Another person on this forum has stated they made $86,000 in their first year. Yeah, well, I call that a bunch of BS.
It is all lies. Even I propogated those lies, because I was taught that lieing was the way to success, when in fact, it's a sure fire way to financial ruin, death threats, and even becomming the victim of armed robbery.
When all you do is piss people off with your lies, some of them will come back for you. I garantee it.
Working for this company means you have to live your life in hiding. Hiding from people, hiding from the Police, the Labor Board, the Courts, the Local Media, etc...
Can you make it in this business? Oh, yes you can! But you have to be a person with no soul, period. You have to be a person who can continually lie, and not be bothered by it. You have to be the kind of person who doesn't mind watching others ruin themselves so you can succeed.
If you can do all that, Scentura Creations is the perfect 'opportunity' for you.
Personally, it was the biggest mistake of my life. After 15 years, I am still bothered by some of the things that happened and have to live with.
In conclusion with a final comment:
The person who stated they made $86,000 has also stated they've gone on many company trips. First, let me make it perfectly clear the company doesn't pay anyone to go on those trips. The company sets up conferences, and anybody who wants to attend is required to pay their own way. Anybody who tells you otherwise is lieing.
I attended many of those conferences myself, and had to pay my own airfare and hotel just like all the other 1000's of people who were also there, so you can't call it a 'company trip'. Regardless of your performance, Scentura will never reward you with anything for free.
Like me, everyone on this forum who maniacly defend Scentura Creations at this point, will one day soon either disappear or return, like me, to warn others against it.
When the brainwashing is over, and the reality starts, they will ALL change their tune."
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