- Report: #80497
Complaint Review: Schneider National Carriers,Inc
| Schneider National Carriers,Inc 3101 PackerLand Drive
Green Bay, Wisconsin U.S.A. |
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Schneider National Schneider National Carriers,Inc ripoff avoid schneider at all cost. Dont sign the contract. Green Bay Wisconsin
*General Comment: Suspended License
*Consumer Comment: I just have one question why must people like you insult or anger people can you consider this that people was to angry about being done wrong to pay attention you just set fuel to the fire
*Consumer Comment: I just have one question why must people like you insult or anger people can you consider this that people was to angry about being done wrong to pay attention you just set fuel to the fire
*Consumer Comment: Hey punk nobody likes judge mental people or the grammar police who put down people i'm not going to argue back and forth things are quiet for a while then here starts the drama
*General Comment: English and Grammer
* : just a quick suggestion
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Think That's Bad?
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Think That's Bad?
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Think That's Bad?
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Think That's Bad?
*Consumer Comment: What ??
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: orange crush
*Consumer Comment: I felt like I was discriminated agaisnt
*Consumer Comment: I'll guess I have to work at fast food
*Consumer Comment: I'll guess I have to work at fast food
*Consumer Comment: I'll guess I have to work at fast food
*Consumer Comment: I'll guess I have to work at fast food
*Consumer Comment: Charles, Dude!
*Consumer Comment: Don't never agree with these people
*Author of original report: Wow its been alot of comments about Schneider National (Up-Date on my life since then)
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I think you had it made and didnt reallize it
*UPDATE Employee: YOU LIED ON YOUR APP?!!!???
*Consumer Comment: To Answer Your Questions And Comments Charles...
*Consumer Comment: Why do you defend a company who screws its own drivers
*Consumer Comment: I'm Happy You've Moved On Charles...
*Consumer Comment: People are just trying to make me look bad
*Consumer Comment: To atlanta guy
*Consumer Comment: To Atlanta Guy
*Consumer Comment: To Atlanta Guy
*Consumer Comment: To Atlanta Guy
*Consumer Comment: To Atlanta Guy
*Consumer Comment: Sounds Like to Me a Good, Legal ( But SEXIST and Unfair) Way to Get Rid of a WOMAN EMPLOYEE
*Consumer Comment: Correct
*Consumer Comment: update
*Consumer Comment: To anthony
*Consumer Comment: You are clueless
*Consumer Comment: Perhaps You Can't Read SheBear...
*Consumer Comment: SELF-ESTEEM EQUALS EMPLOYMENT
*Consumer Comment: To Jana
*UPDATE Employee: I have Never Been Cheated
*Consumer Suggestion: It hasn't changed.
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: To Nikki in Wisconsin
*Consumer Comment: Seriously, schneider wasn;t worried.
*Consumer Comment: ENOUGH
*Consumer Comment: I have forgave schneider
*Consumer Comment: I have moved on with my life
*Consumer Comment: For someone who has 'nothing further to say' to me
*Consumer Comment: John strikes again
*Consumer Comment: Caught yet again....
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: IF YOU DO GRADUATE YOU WILL NOT GET THE MILES PROMISED
*Consumer Comment: John please do not post to me anymore
*Consumer Comment: UPDATE: Always the thief
*Consumer Comment: update
*Consumer Comment: update
*Consumer Comment: To scott
*Consumer Comment: Kudos Scott
*UPDATE Employee: I Love these Guys
*Consumer Comment: I feel like wanting to commit suicide
*Consumer Comment: Charles, Get a Grip....
*Consumer Comment: Charles
*Consumer Comment: I am not going to argue
*Consumer Comment: Charles
*Consumer Comment: Schneider only want's retired military personal
*Consumer Comment: Schneider
*Consumer Comment: I don't care about schneider anymore
*Consumer Comment: Yes you don as you just posted 3 times just today
*Consumer Comment: I don't care anymore
*Consumer Comment: To Friendly Observer
*Consumer Comment: To Friendly Observer
*Consumer Suggestion: Nikki who started this thread in the first place. I doubt you even follow it any more although I'm sure Charles does.
*Consumer Suggestion: Nikki who started this thread in the first place. I doubt you even follow it any more although I'm sure Charles does.
*Consumer Suggestion: Nikki who started this thread in the first place. I doubt you even follow it any more although I'm sure Charles does.
*Consumer Suggestion: Nikki who started this thread in the first place. I doubt you even follow it any more although I'm sure Charles does.
*Consumer Comment: I'm a trucker's wife, and he drives for Schneider.
*Consumer Comment: How
*Consumer Comment: To Steve01
*Consumer Comment: Steve01
*Consumer Comment: OTR training needed first
*Consumer Comment: The Truth about Trucking your recruiter won't tell you
*Consumer Comment: schneider school and hireing practice
*Consumer Comment: To steve
*Consumer Comment: All that being said, I have a question for anyone who can answer it
*Consumer Comment: All that being said, I have a question for anyone who can answer it
*Consumer Comment: All that being said, I have a question for anyone who can answer it
*Consumer Comment: Charles, How did things go at Swift?
*Consumer Comment: Schneider
*Consumer Comment: Schneider
*Consumer Comment: SAD & SCARED
*Consumer Comment: SAD & SCARED
*Consumer Comment: SAD & SCARED
*Consumer Comment: SAD & SCARED
*Consumer Comment: I don't need schneider
*Consumer Suggestion: T Goodness this will FINALLY END!!!
*Consumer Comment: People don't give up do they
*Consumer Comment: Now I'm nervous!
*Consumer Comment: Excellent choice Charles
*Consumer Comment: I am not listening to these people
*Consumer Comment: Charles, I am concerned
*Consumer Comment: I just got accepted into swift training school
*Consumer Comment: If I did hold a job for 12 months I would not apply for schneiders company-paid training school
*Consumer Comment: home time
*Consumer Comment: People have no right to say anything about your typing or spelling
*Consumer Comment: Just ignore people
*Consumer Comment: Here people go again
*UPDATE Employee: news paper ads
*Consumer Comment: Do people ever give up you people can insult me all you wish
*Consumer Comment: Thanks for the info- Curt, Greg and Len
*Consumer Comment: I don't need serious help
*UPDATE Employee: Freakin' genius
*UPDATE Employee: Freakin' genius
*UPDATE Employee: Freakin' genius
*UPDATE Employee: Freakin' genius
*Consumer Comment: I don't need serious help
*UPDATE Employee: You do need some help
*Consumer Comment: I don't need serious help
*UPDATE Employee: Charles, you need serious help
*Consumer Comment: Simply amazing!
*Consumer Comment: To sean your judgement about peoples spelling is really ridiculous i do have the brains
*Consumer Suggestion: GOTA HAVE BRAINS TO DRIVE A TRUCK
*Consumer Suggestion: To Charles !!!!
*Consumer Comment: How Wierd Is This?
*Consumer Comment: Schneider liars
*Consumer Comment: schneider liars
*Consumer Comment: nothing works out the way you plan it
*Consumer Comment: don't you realize its because of people like curt,greg who defend schneider are messing up people to let schneider get caught for their criminal ways
*Consumer Comment: don't you realize its because of people like curt,greg who defend schneider are messing up people to let schneider get caught for their criminal ways
*Consumer Comment: don't you realize its because of people like curt,greg who defend schneider are messing up people to let schneider get caught for their criminal ways
*Consumer Comment: You go for it Charles
*Consumer Comment: Schneider job discrimination ruthless people
*Consumer Comment: schneider liars
*Consumer Comment: schneider LIARS misleading people
*Consumer Comment: i rather be poor then work for schneider i hate people who they have pride
*Consumer Comment: i rather be poor then work for schneider i hate people who they have pride
*Consumer Comment: i rather be poor then work for schneider i hate people who they have pride
*Consumer Comment: frank you'er so full of S***
*Consumer Comment: Wow, Frank! That's big bucks for sure......
*Consumer Comment: Will not work for schneider national I don't care anymore screw trucking i will not let schneider or anybody else discourage me for making my goal
*Consumer Comment: Schneider can PISS off, I do not trust them anymore or any other trucking school!.
*UPDATE Employee: Charles, Glad to See You're Still Recovering from Your Brain Injury
*Consumer Comment: schneider wants to treat me like crap then I will do whatever it takes to make them lose business schneider does not know they are really hurting
*Consumer Comment: Ignore people like greg, & curt
*Consumer Comment: To greg I don't need schneider to get into the trucking industry
*Consumer Comment: Schneider will find excuses not to hire you
*Consumer Comment: Schneider will find excuses not to hire you
*Consumer Comment: Schneider will find excuses not to hire you
*Consumer Comment: Schneider will find excuses not to hire you
*Consumer Comment: Schneider will sufffer at the end
*Consumer Suggestion: If you do not do your research you will be doomed
*Consumer Comment: People who have been wronged by schneider needs to start a civil suit for damanges & for who have been mislead
*Consumer Comment: People who have been wronged by schneider needs to start a civil suit for damanges & for who have been mislead
*Consumer Comment: People who have been wronged by schneider needs to start a civil suit for damanges & for who have been mislead
*Consumer Comment: People need to take action agaisnt schneider for misleading people I feel discouraged & ange
*Consumer Comment: If trucking schools keeps making it hard for people to get it they will lose their money
*Consumer Comment: I am moving on from these creeps & liars
*Consumer Comment: Make sure you prepare a five letter coverhead to explain why you were umemployed for 36 months
*Consumer Comment: OH REALLY IS THEIR A FULL MOON OUT ALL THE CRAZY PEOPLE ARE OUT & ABOUT
*Consumer Comment: Suggestion for Charles
*Consumer Comment: I WAS HURT & ANGERED BY NOT BEING EXCEPTED INTO SCHNEIDER TRAINING SCHOOL SO I FEEL A LITTLE DESTROYED
*Consumer Comment: Who cares what people speak about your writing or spelling if you have been treated wrong by schneider like I have speak out
*Consumer Comment: THEY NEED SCHOOLS TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE UNABLE TO PAY SCHNEIDER IS NOT THE EASY WAY TO GET YOUR CDL
*Consumer Comment: MISLEADING EMPLOYMENT
*Consumer Comment: Manangers at companyes refuse to except you just to abuse you because they do not want you to be working for their company
*Consumer Comment: wrongful treatment from schneider ruthless people scum of the earth schneider has completlely been unfair towards me about this work history
*Consumer Comment: Schneider waste of time do not apply
*Consumer Comment: I don't need schneider this is to everybody on this website screw schneider
*Consumer Comment: To Slider How can you say I am reckless????????????
*Consumer Suggestion: Just some observations:
*Consumer Comment: NOBODY WILL KEEP ME QUIT ABOUT HOW I WAS WRONGED BYE SCHNEIDER NO MATTER HOW MUCH CURT, LEN, FRANK, & GREG PUT ME DOWN PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK
*Consumer Comment: Schneider is sending its cronies like curt, len,frank,greg to this website to attack people who complain on this website & to harass people
*Consumer Comment: PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO CRITICIZE OR ATTACK PEOPLE WHO SPEAK OUT WHO HAVE BEEN WRONGED BYE SCHNEIDER
*Consumer Comment: 3 YEAR WORK HISTORY RIDICULOUS
*Consumer Comment: I DON'T GIVE A DAMN HOW I MAKE SCHNEIDER LOOK OR THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY
*Consumer Comment: I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN WHAT PEOPLE THINK OR SAY ABOUT ME ON THIS WEB SITE
*Consumer Comment: I will not apply with schneider again, for how they treated me
*Consumer Comment: IGNORE COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE LIKE CURT, LEN, FRANK, & GREG ,DON'T LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE
*Consumer Suggestion: The reason I explain things here is so that beginners don't end up in a bad situation.
*Consumer Comment: RESPONSE TO GREG people can dish crap out put can't take it
*Consumer Comment: A commonet from the outside
*Consumer Comment: RESPONSE TO LEN CURT FRANK DON'T THINK YOUR PERFECT IT COULD COME BACK TO YOU DON'T THINK YOUR BETTER THEN EVERYBODY ELSE CAUSE YA'LL AIN'T!!!!!!
*Consumer Comment: RESPONSE TO FRANK I do have an education as a matter of fact
*UPDATE Employee: Schneider is a lot better than the negative hype suggests
*Consumer Suggestion: Look at the trucking industry and tell me what you see.
*Consumer Comment: BAD COMMENTS, RESPONSE TO LEN, CURT
*Consumer Comment: RESPONSE TO LEN & CURT ..these companies do not have a right to mistreat or abuse people
*Consumer Comment: Bad information and comments I know what I am talking about.
*Consumer Comment: I'm sorry for what happened to you...
*UPDATE Employee: the truth about big companies
*Consumer Comment: I drive A truck
*Consumer Suggestion: Leasing is a long trip to the poorhouse!
*Consumer Comment: Becoming an Independent Lease Contractor
*Consumer Suggestion: Response To Texas
*Consumer Suggestion: Response To Texas
*Consumer Suggestion: Response To Texas
*Consumer Suggestion: Response To Texas
*Consumer Comment: THREE YEAR WORK HISTORY WAS REQUIRED BY THE TSA
*Consumer Comment: THREE YEAR WORK HISTORY WAS REQUIRED BY THE TSA
*Consumer Comment: THREE YEAR WORK HISTORY WAS REQUIRED BY THE TSA
*Consumer Comment: THREE YEAR WORK HISTORY WAS REQUIRED BY THE TSA
*Consumer Comment: Get a clue
*Consumer Comment: SCHNEIDER RIPOFF TRUCKING COMPANY
*Consumer Suggestion: A Little Clarity
*Consumer Suggestion: Job Corps is free of charge to you. It's better than the military right now --or so it seems.
*Consumer Comment: SCREW SCHNEIDER NATIONAL FOR RUINING MY CHANCE'S OF BECOMING A TRUCK DRIVER
*Consumer Comment: SCREW SCHNEIDER NATIONAL FOR RUINING MY CHANCE'S OF BECOMING A TRUCK DRIVER
*Consumer Comment: SCREW SCHNEIDER NATIONAL FOR RUINING MY CHANCE'S OF BECOMING A TRUCK DRIVER
*Consumer Comment: SCREW SCHNEIDER NATIONAL FOR RUINING MY CHANCE'S OF BECOMING A TRUCK DRIVER
*Consumer Suggestion: Helene, get a truck job before you starve!
*Consumer Suggestion: Thanks For The Concern
*Consumer Comment: From the Company Point of View
*Consumer Suggestion: Helene, get a trucking job. It's quick money, and a roof over your head.
*Consumer Comment: They have so many ways of cheating you, it is unbelievable!
*Consumer Suggestion: Want a trucking job? Make sure you know what you're getting into.
*Consumer Comment: SCHNEIDER RIPOFF TRUCKING SCHOOL SORRY I EVEN CONSIDERED TRUCK DRIVING
*Consumer Suggestion: There are other training schools
*Consumer Comment: I'AM SORRY I EVEN CONSIDERED SCHNEIDER'S DRIVING SCHOOL SCHNEIDER HAS RUTHLESS PEOPLE
*UPDATE Employee: Protect yourself... I always include a "Good Faith" Statement that I have typed up myself
*Consumer Comment: THE HELL WITH SCHNEIDER NATIONAL FOR RUINING MY CHANCES OF BECOMING A TRUCK DRIVER SORRY I EVEN CONSIDER TRUCK DRIVING
*Consumer Comment: JB Hunt does not train.
*Consumer Comment: GOT TURNED DOWN BY SCHNEIDER FOR NO WORK EXPERIENCE
*Consumer Comment: you didnt do nonthing wrong
*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Lie on an application?
*Consumer Suggestion: Avoid J.B. hunt and swift,too
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Corporate Advocacy Program™
I decided to go thur Schneider Training program after talking to my friends and checking them on the internet (www.schneider.com). So i went thur the interview and they sent me the paperwork and the Contract for the cost of the program. Which is about $3500. So i sign it and i went to training in GreenBay on Jan 12 2004. When i got there everything was fine untill i slip on there yard (they didt clean off the ice) and hurt my knee. So i had to go to the hospital and i got sent home the next day by (Don). So i got clear by my doctor and i went back on the 19th and i pass the Training Class. Now i went thur JumpStart and pass thur that.
I went over the road with Truck Driver Trainer I thought i was going to become a truck driver. I thought wrong, I was packing for the next road trip when Schneider call me. She said on my application i said i was never had a suspended licence before. Now when i apply online i made a mistake on the application. I said yes for everything. When i suppose to said NO. But Lisa Call back And i told her NO for the other questions, but when she ask me of the Suspended Licence i told her Yes back in 1998 in Indiana for no insurance on my car.She said she is going to said NO because its not important. Well i guess it was because the terminate me from the program because of this suspending license i had in 98 for no insurance on my car.
They told me this Shit that i was still Suspending. Now this is 2004 i was clear back in Jan 2000. I call in Indiana DMV and got my MVR from them. Plus if i was still suspending i wouldnt be able to surrender my Indiana License for my Wisconsin License back in May 2002, and no way in hell i could have been driving a school bus for since Aug 2002. So In closing Schneider is a bunch of shit. I warn this to anyone thinking of Schneider as a good way to become a truck driver. Go to J.B.Hunt,SWIFT,or a good trucking school.
Nikki
Racine, Wisconsin
U.S.A.
This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 02/15/2004 04:41 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Schneider-National-CarriersInc/Green-Bay-Wisconsin-54306/Schneider-National-Schneider-National-CarriersInc-ripoff-avoid-schneider-at-all-cost-Do-80497. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.
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Search Tips#1 General Comment
Suspended License
AUTHOR: Talibhunter - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 16, 2012
When your suspension date expired, did you pay the reinstatement fee or did you just assume you were valid again? If you don't fill out the proper paperwork and pay the reinstatement fee your license will go on being suspended.
Talibhunter
USA
#2 Consumer Comment
I just have one question why must people like you insult or anger people can you consider this that people was to angry about being done wrong to pay attention you just set fuel to the fire
AUTHOR: Kevin - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
#3 Consumer Comment
I just have one question why must people like you insult or anger people can you consider this that people was to angry about being done wrong to pay attention you just set fuel to the fire
AUTHOR: Kevin - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
#4 Consumer Comment
Hey punk nobody likes judge mental people or the grammar police who put down people i'm not going to argue back and forth things are quiet for a while then here starts the drama
AUTHOR: Kevin - (USA)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 13, 2012
#5 General Comment
English and Grammer
AUTHOR: Heart Strong - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 07, 2012
#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Think That's Bad?
AUTHOR: Patrick - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 05, 2009
Bunch of Idiots! Nothing personal, but if you see a student driver coming your way driving a Tanker...get out of the way! I'm saying it because I was one too!
#8 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Think That's Bad?
AUTHOR: Patrick - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 05, 2009
Bunch of Idiots! Nothing personal, but if you see a student driver coming your way driving a Tanker...get out of the way! I'm saying it because I was one too!
#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Think That's Bad?
AUTHOR: Patrick - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 05, 2009
Bunch of Idiots! Nothing personal, but if you see a student driver coming your way driving a Tanker...get out of the way! I'm saying it because I was one too!
#10 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Think That's Bad?
AUTHOR: Patrick - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, June 05, 2009
Bunch of Idiots! Nothing personal, but if you see a student driver coming your way driving a Tanker...get out of the way! I'm saying it because I was one too!
#12 UPDATE EX-employee responds
orange crush
AUTHOR: Bigrob301 - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 14, 2009
#13 Consumer Comment
I felt like I was discriminated agaisnt
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 29, 2009
I will not apply with schneider. I am afraid when I apply for a new trucking school I will get turned down again.
I still would like a job to get out of the house. But with all the discrimination these days, you feel like your not good enough for any job.
I just stuck @ home all day doing nothing.
#14 Consumer Comment
I'll guess I have to work at fast food
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, January 05, 2009
#15 Consumer Comment
I'll guess I have to work at fast food
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, January 05, 2009
#16 Consumer Comment
I'll guess I have to work at fast food
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, January 05, 2009
#17 Consumer Comment
I'll guess I have to work at fast food
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, January 05, 2009
#18 Consumer Comment
Charles, Dude!
AUTHOR: Scoody - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 18, 2008
I am sorry, but that makes you nuttier than deer poop in a pecan orchard. My ex-wife screwed around on me with a whole bunch of guys. Set fire to my Corvette, shot my horse (she always hated that horse) and took my dog. To make matters worse she made me keep our juvenile delinquient kids. I was very mad. Outraged over this. For about a year, then I met my current wife and that was it.
But you! You did not even get fired by Schneider, you never got hired by them in the first place. They basically said, "Thanks but no thanks" to you working for them and four years later you are still whining about it. Not only that, you are whining about it three years after you said that you had moved on.
From your posts I can see that you cannot maintain a coherent thought (though it does appear that your brain makes a mighty but utterly futile effort). Spell like a drunk monkey on a computer after you switched all the letters around on his keyboard. Can't take the slightest criticism. But you know what you can do? You know how to hold a grudge. Now if you had been that persitent in search of an education...
#19 Consumer Comment
Don't never agree with these people
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, December 14, 2008
They will have there day like the others who treat people wrong. People are always going to blame the original poster regardless. Schneider Is like all the other garbage trucking companies If they treat employees like this.
#20 Author of original report
Wow its been alot of comments about Schneider National (Up-Date on my life since then)
AUTHOR: Nikki - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 12, 2008
Charles-- I feel so sorry for you but I know how you feel, when you commit to something that is suppose to make your life better and they just chew you up and spit you out, it hurts. I hope that you find that career you want to do, and you make it your own.
Friendly Observer -- you were right I shouldn't have been so stupid and trusting believe that it will fine about my suspended license I had back in Indiana. I was young and believing that she wouldn't have said that if she didn't know for-sure. I have learn that lesson now. thats for sure. I hope you are doing well too.
To every one else who had good comment or bad about Schneider, just remember in life there are allways roadblocks we must cross we must not these roadblocks consume our life, we must move on and forgive, and not forget.
Good Luck to ALL
Nikki
#21 UPDATE EX-employee responds
I think you had it made and didnt reallize it
AUTHOR: Yamahaguy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 11, 2008
#22 UPDATE Employee
YOU LIED ON YOUR APP?!!!???
AUTHOR: The Best Thing I Ever Did!!!! - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 06, 2008
If you had made it thru Schnieders training program you would have been terminated for false info on you app.
A lot of people here are upset about the contract????
Before you sign the contract you had better do some research on the trucking lifestyle. You will be away from your family and home for at least 2 weeks at a time. You will be living in a truck,using public showers and restrooms,you may not get to shower everyday,you have to eat fast food or bring your own and eat it cold since we are not allowed to have a microwave,in the summer you will be sleeping in a truck with no air etc.....
So if you think you can handle all that now you are ready to learn to drive.Have you ever driven a big rig? If not ARE YOU SURE YOU CAN? IT IS NOT EASY!!!!
If you are not sure than DON"T go to Schneider. Don't waste your time and theirs. Go to a community collage or a truck driving school, they cost appx 5,000. But you can just drop out if you can't do it.
If you sign the contract Schneider will arrange to transport you to the nearest training center,they will put you up in a hotel,feed you breakfast and lunch and teach you the skills required to be a safe driver. For 2 weeks Schneider foots the bill. Than you go to jump start and than you are out on the road for 1-2 weeks with a TE.
So YES you do sign a contract but you will learn a skill that will earn you a lot of money. Try to team up with someone and you will make even more. Stay with the same trucking company for years and make more too.
I am a women truck driver and proud of it!!!! I went thru Schneiders training program 9 years ago. It was one of the most difficult things I've ever done. I was not a "natural" I needed extra training and Schneider worked overtime with me.
This job has changed my life!!!!
I have tripled my income. I've been able to make some of my dreams come true!!!
So, yes I do work for Schneider,if for whatever reason they "did something" to you, well I can tell you there was a reason for it!!!!
I don't think ANY trucking company is going to give you a truck to drive that weighs close to 80,000 lbs and costs 125,000 not to mention the freight that can be worth up to 2 mil a load and the potential to very easily kill a entire family if they think you can't handle it!!!!
#23 Consumer Comment
To Answer Your Questions And Comments Charles...
AUTHOR: Anthony - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, July 31, 2008
Because the definition of "screwing a driver" can be interpreted in many ways. I'm a driver. I've felt like I've been screwed before, but when it all boils down to gravy, the fact is that no one on any job, or who works for any company, is going to get things their way all the time.
That goes double in trucking. I've known drivers that quit the minute something doesn't go the way they want it. Their definition of "being screwed" to them, is that they didn't get their way, but someone else did. That could mean that they didn't get a load that they wanted, or they had to deal with crap to get one on or off the truck, or it could mean practically anything at all. Some people have a low threshold for tolerating inconvenience. Some people want the best all the time, and the heck with everyone else but themselves.
There are as many drivers to keep happy as there are those on staff. You can't satisfy every one, every day, or every week. Sometimes in life, you get screwed, as it may be coined. How you deal with it when it happens...makes all the difference in the world. In trucking, there are good weeks and bad weeks.
Sometimes, it's not about "being screwed" as much as it is the fact that some people can't deal with diverse circumstances, or to play as part of the team, and understand that you need to be flexible at times for things to fall into place.
So I guess to really answer that question, we would have to define what "screwing" actually means.
Your Comment: "These complaints has to be true but you put people down tell them wrong & like to argue."
I beg to differ. In all my years of dealing with the internet, one thing is absolutely true. You can't always trust people to relate the facts when they are being negative. They will more often than not, either embellish the truth to make it sound worse, or they will omit key facts that would shed a whole new light on the situation if they were known and part of the equation.
For instance, you refer to complaints, but you fail to cite the ones that you consider to be true and correct. So what are we talking about here? You seem content with expressing that YOU have been "screwed" by Schneider, when the fact is you were not. You simply were not accepted by them as a potential employment candidate.
People are not accepted for job positions every day of the week. Applying for a job does not guarantee that you are acceptable for the position. That's easy enough to understand isn't it?
Your Comment: "I wouldn't work for schneider."
That's your choice, and you retain the right to make that choice. They also have the right to reject people that they consider unqualified for an offered job as well.
Your Question: "Why work for a company who will terminate you after training & still demand you pay back the $3500? How can you defend a company like that?"
A one size answer will not fit all circumstances in this situation either, but I will offer a little insight into the issue of their training contracts.
When you fill out an application to drive a commercial vehicle, under federal law it is required to be accurate, and all answers on that application are required to be verified by the company. The most intrusive verifications of a person's background are not performed, and cannot legally BE performed until after the applicant has appeared on the motor carrier's property and has physically signed a release form in front of a company official, allowing them to begin the more intrusive aspects of the background checks.
I do not know for certain, but I am relatively sure that there is a clause in the contract signed by people who agree to sign it, that if they are terminated for cause at any point before the commitment period has been met, that all of the contract terms will still be in force, including the tuition agreement.
The number one reason people are terminated early on in their training process is due to dishonesty on their application for employment. The second cause is for failing to pass the drug screen, or for lying about failing one taken previously through another employer. Then others will fail to disclose issues on their motor vehicle records, such as accidents or convictions for moving violations. Others still will attempt to hide or fail to disclose criminal convictions. And lastly, some people simply fail to pass the training program and/or cannot pass the driving test.
A contract is legally binding. If you sign in agreement to it's terms, and those terms are not illegal in the state in which you sign it, you are bound to those terms. Now I know for a fact that Schneider does not pursue the costs of the training for those who just can't pass the tests, but they may go after those for at least a partial amount of the costs they incurred if someone lied on an application, or was dirty on their drug test, and they actually were out funds and costs for partially training them before the lie or failure was caught.
In their defense, I don't blame them for at least trying to recover what they spent, but they DO NOT attempt to ruin people's credit, unlike other companies out here who will do practically anything to get money from those who quit or are fired while in training, or who leave for any reason before the contract commitment period expires.
In other words, Schneider is a pushover compared to every other company out there who are known for shoving contracts under the noses of people and who fail to read what they sign. They will try to get people to pay, but they will not hound anyone to death over those contracts. Schneider at least sits down with people and will go over the terms up-front and will explain in detail what the terms are, and will answer any questions that one may have about those contracts. They hide NOTHING.
Your Questions: "Even If I did have 3 years of work history I can bet you they still would turn me down."
Correct me if I am wrong, but weren't you told that if you would get a job of any kind, and hold it for ONE year, and then reapply, you would then be considered for their training program? That's what you wrote in your very first post in this thread.
Your Comment: "They discriminate agaisnt people like they did me. So defend schneider If you like."
You were not discriminated against Charles. You did not meet the minimum requirements that they have to meet, in order to be qualified for hiring. Discrimination occurs when you ARE qualified, and were not considered for hire, but lesser qualified people than yourself were hired.
I will also offer another issue that plagued you as well. You were no older than 22 years of age when you applied back in 2003. While you can be eligible under the FMCSA rules to drive a truck in interstate commerce at the age of 21, most insurance companies that cover trucking operations prevent and prohibit the hiring of drivers for over the road operations younger than 23 years of age. I've never met one driver that started driving over the road (going from state to state) who was younger than 23 years old. I'm not saying that there are none, but it would be very rare to find one. Most companies will not pay the extra premiums to insure younger drivers.
Your Comment: "But I would never apply with them again. After how they lied to me & they know they lied to me."
You were not lied to Charles. All the information you have offered in your own posts more than made sense as to why you were rejected, and you clearly were told why you did not qualify for hire by them. Why can't you see it and accept it?
It may well not be your fault that you did not have a work history. But you had been out of school for at least a couple of years when you applied with Schneider. The Government insists on a reasonable explanation for no employment record after someone has been out of school for this amount of time when there is not record of employment to follow graduation.
As unfortunate as it may be, the assumption when it cannot be explained, is that someone is hiding a poor employment record that has not been reported, or something else, like being in prison for example, as a reason why someone your age did not have a job for two years. They have to have on paper in their home office and in your qualification file if you are hired and driving one of their trucks, a solid verification of your history for every month of the previous three years up to the date you were hired, and what you did for those prior three years.
There are not exceptions. It's the law.
#24 Consumer Comment
Why do you defend a company who screws its own drivers
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, July 30, 2008
Why work for a company who will terminate you after training & still demand you pay back the $3500. How can you defend a company like that. There will always be someone who will defend.
Even If I did have 3 years of work history I can bet you they still would turn me down. They discriminate agaisnt people like they did me. So defend schneider If you like.
But I would never apply with them again. After how they lied to me & they know they lied to me.
#25 Consumer Comment
I'm Happy You've Moved On Charles...
AUTHOR: Anthony - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 29, 2008
I'm not determined to have "my way". I am determined to allow people to be able to read both sides of an issue, and allow them to make up their own minds as to how they view it for themselves.
My only comment in the post that you have decided to respond to, was that you were rejected because you were not able to provide them a verifiable work history, and that you have attempted to make this thread all about you. Now either those are facts, or they are not. I think the evidence is on my side here, because you wrote why you were rejected all by yourself early in this thread, and you have subsequently posted EIGHTY TIMES in this thread alone.
I do not put people down, unless they respond with an attitude that calls for it, nor do I attack anyone merely because they post in regard to Schneider National Carriers, but I certainly will not respect dishonesty or semantics. I call it like I see it. I have always offered a fair take on the subjects that I wade in on, each and every time I offer commentary, including comments of constructive criticism of Schneider as well.
On the other hand, you can find posts that I have offered in regard to other companies in the three sections on this site pertaining to trucking, where I have offered stern condemnation of those companies that deserve to be lambasted for the way they treat people.
I would gladly entertain any demonstration you can offer, that would show where I have "twisted" your words, because that is not my style. I have certain opinions but I have kept expression of those views to a bare minimum.
There is only one person responsible for the reason you were denied a position with Schneider National Carriers, and that person is yourself. You could not sufficiently provide them with enough information to satisfy the requirements that they have to meet, in order to qualify you as a driver of a commercial vehicle. That was your responsibility, and not theirs.
I wish you nothing but the best, but "moving on" sometimes involves owning up to the fact that you might have been wrong to type some of the things you typed, and I see nothing to suggest that you have regrets for any of the unjustified comments you offered.
I will reiterate what I have always offered in regard to this company, and that is that they are not for a company that everyone would be happy with, but as a venue in which to enter this industry, where one is willing to exchange a commitment of service for the training and experience to break into the industry, there is not one motor carrier that offers on-the-job training out there that can beat Schneider in terms of quality, safety, training standards, compensation, and long term job aspects after one is trained and out there on their own.
Schneider is one company that is continuously striving to improve all the time, to buck the trends that plague other large companies, by offering jobs that people like, and working conditions that keep them happy. They've come a long way in the past decade, and this and all of the above is why they get my approval and endorsement.
And as always, I want it made clear that I do not work for them, have never worked for them. I spend a great deal of time working online in the effort of informing people of this industry's good and bad. I have two decades invested in helping people understand how to avoid the snake pits that exist in the trucking industry. And I do it for one simple reason. Because I've seen the best and the worst that this industry offers. I was uninformed at one time too, and I was victimized as well many years ago.
My goal is to help guide people around the bad to get to the good as effortlessly as possible, and to find their way to whatever they seek from a position of being a little more aware of how it is out here, better informed to how be able to read between the lines, and to recognize the better ways to achieve the goal of winding one's way around the potholes in order to stay on the smooth pavement.
I consider Schneider to be one company that does far more right, than wrong.
#26 Consumer Comment
People are just trying to make me look bad
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 29, 2008
John Its agaisnt consumer rights so he tries to discredit there report & attack them has much he can to make the business look innocent. But I will not back down & john can make up has many lies he wishes.
You twist my words around all the time trying to make me the bad guy. I don't care who agrees with me or who believes me. There Is alot of abuses employers & businesses get away with today.
I don't feel bad with the things you say to me even though you try your best to do. I am just tired of these people who are In power like employers & businesses thinking they can get away with abusing & mistreating us.
I could careless what john think's of me nobody knows me on this site & they have the nerve to say the things they do to me. I try to move on but people don't want me to.
They keep dragging me back. I don't trust people or businesses because I have been betrayed to much In the past & how I am being treated know.
People have twisted my words around & everything. They tell me to let stuff go well they are just has guilty for keeping this going to. Atlanta guy john & everyone else can say whatever they feel like about me they just don't get It.
People have twisted my words around & everything. They tell me to let stuff go well they are just has guilty for keeping this going to. Atlanta guy john & everyone else can say whatever they feel like about me they just don't get It.
People have twisted my words around & everything. They tell me to let stuff go well they are just has guilty for keeping this going to. Atlanta guy john & everyone else can say whatever they feel like about me they just don't get It.
People have twisted my words around & everything. They tell me to let stuff go well they are just has guilty for keeping this going to. Atlanta guy john & everyone else can say whatever they feel like about me they just don't get It.
#32 Consumer Comment
Sounds Like to Me a Good, Legal ( But SEXIST and Unfair) Way to Get Rid of a WOMAN EMPLOYEE
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 29, 2008
What I think happened is MAYBE Schneider MIGHT be getting some sort of govt. funding to train minorities and women drivers, and it is another "YOU PEOPLE" SCENARIO which means, "we have to hire YOU PEOPLE, We will get MONEY for training YOU PEOPLE but AFTER we train YOU PEOPLE we don't have to HIRE YOU PEOPLE..."
And they MIGHT see to it that nobody else does either or there is a EEOC Quid Pro Quo complaint generated so that there is no job as a result of the quid pro quo or it doesn't last for very long.
Anyway you look at it, this Republican Administration is NOT interested in EEOC enforcement or even AGE DISCRIMINATION enforcement. So don't expect anything to come out of it. As in security,the management will probably act shocked and surprised and a few heads will roll but they will replace the old boss with the new boss as the song says and it is the same old *** just a different day and new faces.
The only women I saw who made it through trucking school were those who were going to drive with a male partner who was also in the trucking school,one woman who wasn't going to have to worry about getting a job with a trucking company because her father was already driving and she was going to get his rig --he was an owner operator.
I also saw very capable women drivers who were washed out as the trucking school instructor was looking for any excuse to wash out the women who didn't have a man behind them. That way, they could claim they were not discriminating because they had women who actually took the course and passed. ( and they did!)
It goes back to the paternalism when women and slaves had to have a free man to watch over them as they were not considered capable or independent thinking or they would lead to mischief. etc. because they were perceived to be inferior and different from human beings -- mainly MEN. The GERMAN PEASANTS and MIDDLE-CLASS were really big on this stereotype so much so that "Kinder, Kirschen, Kuechen" or the Doctrine of Child- rearing, Church-going and Kitchens" were the only places women belonged.
Schneider sounds like a German or Pennsylvania Dutch ( Deutsch) name to me.
Women without a male co-driver to vouch for them had better beware of this place, sounds like to me...
I have had all I can take I can't take nomore so I have moved on. I am not even worried anymore about the nasty comments people say about me.
He puts down everyone who files a complaint agaisnt them he doesn't let this go. If I can let go schneider rejecting me but It took me a long time to he needs to stop hounding me about it.
He doesn't know me or anyone else who has made comments to me. He just doesn't know when to stop bothering people. I have moved on I don't care about schneider anymore.
All people have done Is twist my words around like anthony has done, he doesn't know a thing about me but he talks like he does. I don't even read his negative comments anymore or anyone else.
People have nothing better to do then to put down someone they don't even know.
Perhaps you should make it a point to read the many, many, many fraudulent reports this jackass has posted before putting him on a curb much less a faux pedestal. He even has the balls to tell a lawyer - giving free advice in a field that he has experience - that he is wrong and a jerkoff just because he doesn't like the answer. Do your research before commenting.
#37 Consumer Comment
Perhaps You Can't Read SheBear...
AUTHOR: Anthony - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 29, 2008
Not that Charles is the topic in this thread, despite his attempts to make it so, the fact is that he was rejected for one simple reason. He did not have any verifiable work history in his past, which precluded him from consideration under the FMCSA rules that require a solid three years of one's most recent work history to be documented by any motor carrier on every employee they hire. The rest of what has transpired in this thread is not worth arguing over. And I'm sorry, but a rejection for his not being able to provide his history is not Schneider's fault, nor is not a basis for trashing the company.
I have spent many years attempting to drum it into people's heads that you cannot rush into this industry and take anyone's word at face value, and that research and careful consideration is the only way to go when attempting to get into the driver's seat.
Trucking companies are a dime a dozen as well, and the way they are run differs as night and day does too. Rather than for me to lump them all in one category, I have spent countless hours analyzing many of them individually. Job satisfaction goes way down the larger the company is, as a general rule. Training carriers have issues aside from those who only hire experienced drivers, much like those you mention, but Schneider breaks away from the pack in many areas, because it's completely unfair to lump them in with the others, when you do the amount of research that I have done, and know the facts.
Schneider National Carriers is the ONLY company to have it's training program endorsed by a nationally recognized and VERIFIABLE educational institution, specific to the trucking industry. They are endorsed by the Professional Truck Driver's Institute (PTDA), based on their course evaluation standards. There is not one other training carrier out there that comes close to the standards and the thoroughness of training that Schneider offers.
The mentors they utilize to road train newbies are selected well, and screened completely. They do not throw newbies into trucks with misfits, rapists, or with people who will show them the illegal way of doing things. They are put with compatible people who further their training the right way, and with safety in mind at all times. The proof in what I say can be found by merely looking up their safety statistics in the SaferSystem database. No other carrier out there that trains drivers can come close to the record of safety Schneider maintains, despite having many inexperienced drivers behind the wheel at any given moment.
Along with those two issues that in my opinion speak volumes about them, Schneider compensates newbies at a far better rate than their competitors, has a much higher success rate of keeping drivers on staff well past the training and commitment periods, and offers better long term job aspects than any of their competitors as well.
But make no mistake, their hiring standards are higher, and this is what is at the core of the most egregious examples you will read when complaints are offered. They have a reputation to protect, and despite what some might write, it is a good one, and they mean to protect it as they see fit to do so. If that means rejecting people that they consider a risk, not a good fit for the job, or unqualified for reasons of their own, then they retain the right to reject people based on any or all of that criteria.
If people want to get into trucking, they can find the venue in which to do it. There are many companies out there who will hire all but the deceased, but you get what you deserve when you go that route. It doesn't matter what company one selects, people that have attitudes, who lie on their applications or who attempt to hide information that can be found through the background checking process, or who have had issues on other jobs, will often find themselves rejected at some point by Schneider, and yes, I would find it very unusual for someone to NOT be upset when it happens, but we live in a society where people often fail to recognize that they, themselves can often be their own worst enemy when they fail to be honest, up-front, or to amend the issues that they themselves can only control.
And finally, let's be clear on something. Not one American in this country is OWED a job, just because they want it. Should anyone that seeks one be able to find one? Without question. But people need to be realistic sometimes. I'd love to make the money a Surgeon does, but I'm hardly qualified for the position. And anyone who thinks they DO deserve a job, because they want it, is in for a rude awakening.
Making a comparison to one in prison being forced to work, to employment opportunities out in the free world is ludicrous. And while your attempt to instill the idea that a job inspires "self-respect", people have to show respect for the people who make hiring and firing decisions as well. Demanding respect never works. You earn respect by showing it to others.
Demanding to be hired will never work either. You set goals, you work to achieve those goals, and eventually you will meet those goals, whatever they are. If one's goal is to want to drive a truck, then they can do it, as long as they approach it in all the right ways.
#38 Consumer Comment
SELF-ESTEEM EQUALS EMPLOYMENT
AUTHOR: Shebear - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 22, 2008
As a mature woman, I saw the big trucking companies and their training programs from the inside, although I paid for my own 6-week PTDIA course first, to get my CDL with Hazmat and all the extras. I fully expected to work hard, and I knew the conditions ahead of time, having done the research.
I discovered that companies like Schneider, or Werner, or USA Express, or Prime, or any of the other big carriers lose good drivers because they have no 'appeal process'. Decisions and judgments are made arbitrarily by some intermediary, the equivalent of a smalltown bureaucrat, and all company employees automatically close ranks. Logic and fairness go right out the window.
I personally was never terminated and never had an accident, and I recently received my DAC report covering 2006-2007, when I stopped working by my own choice in the industry, and it is clean.
However, to put it mildly I did not have happy experiences in trying to make a career in trucking. Worst of all, though, I had to witness heartbreaking stories of people who were victimized through no fault of their own by cadres of lower middle-management staff who have no common sense, no decency, and no integrity. What they DO have is a 'pack mentality'. Drivers are a dime a dozen, and the people who manipulate them in these companies gang up on the weak for some kind of sick, sadistic gratification. I am not exaggerating.
I know someone who went to Schneider with a CDL in hand, and a very solid work history, and he was shown the door for no legitimate reason at all. Meanwhile, I have heard of trainers with some of these big companies being drunk while on OTR runs with students. Surprised? The worse crimes which happen in a truck cab are never reported officially, for the same reason that people ignore crimes on a city street. If you figure out in advance that 'telling' is going to make your life too complicated, you simply shut up, or like Scarlett O'Hara, you say to yourself, "I'll think about that tomorrow." Meanwhile, you have a job to keep. There are so many trainers with these companies who have 'almost' gotten away with murder. No, not literally speaking, but in terms of incompetence, abuse, and unsafe driving practices. Yet these trainers are seldom terminated, even when complaints are lodged by students. The companies have decided that the word of a student is not to be believed over the word of a trainer. Period.
Charles, wherever you are and whatever you are doing, your expressing yourself in these reports has given all of us insight into someone else's world. It is a privilege to share your experiences. Some people may not understand the lessons you have taught us, but others, like myself, appreciate your efforts. You have not gone through all this in vain.
You are a young person of value and ability. It is a very tough work environment anywhere. Living as an economic slave is really everyone's fate today. We have two choices. We can either become dehumanized, dumbed-down mouthpieces for the system; or, we can stand up for who we are and stay in touch with our own feelings and our own reality. That's what you have been doing, Charles, and you have proved yourself to be a unique and special kind of individual. Thank you.
I don't care anymore about It. You can't live In the past & that Is what I been doing. I feel free & relief from this.
#40 UPDATE Employee
I have Never Been Cheated
AUTHOR: Driver 109 - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, July 19, 2008
Most of the bigger companies want to keep a driver as long as possible, it is better for business. They also have to make sure they remain profitable. the best idea is to Be on time, do your paper work, keep your logs legal, Get a good Dispatcher (Driver Manager), Bring your own food as much as possible (truck stop food isn't cheap), Stay away from Cash Advances (its hard to get caught up)
#41 Consumer Suggestion
It hasn't changed.
AUTHOR: Ironhorse Cowboy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, July 17, 2008
I have since gotten into being a Mechanic/Welder, here on the east coast. Funny thing is I work 65 hours a week, I have no time for anything but work. They want me to be able to weld, wrench and own 25 thousand in tools. I haven't had a raise in this industry since 1992, in other words I am actually making less.
Sound Familiar?
I am certified in both and I am skilled in electrical and computer. I cannot find a job for more than 55k per year that's with overtime. WHY? Because ALL companies want to keep you in debt, it keeps you hungry, it makes you borrow and that feeds the banks.
Unfortunately, the answer is not to spend money you don't have, Blue collar people are damned to pay taxes and work hard, and it just keeps getting worse. But you know you will always find that idiot who will work for less, and that is where we have come to now.
As far as owning your own fleet.... I cannot believe that you think driving was easier. Yeah there's some freedom out there, but managed properly that residual income you have at the end of the year, invested properly will let you retire better than most.
I have news for everyone,Schneider, JB hunt, and ALL of those big guys are not gonna let you become rich driving truck. Since they have started in this business I have heard the same exact stories, even the good ones too!
But there will always be someone to take your place, there is always that person from some poor family that will think 560 bucks a week is a rich man's salary. So the best we can do is Keep bitching. After all these years of being stuck in the shop having drivers tell me there problems and sob stories I can only say work on those stupid things all day, with no A/C in the summer cold winter shops and not enough money to pay my mortgage or Snap-On tool bill.
Still Sound Familiar?
So as you see, almost all Blue Collars are in the same boat. Hopefully you may recover, but the job you get will pay the same or less, it will be come a burden just like trucking and you'll be just as tired.
WHY? because the government has you so deep in debt, and credit cards aren't getting paid down, and mortgages are huge for a 1200 sq.ft home. As long as your in debt, you will NEED to work, they will collect the taxes and you will be poor.
Can you imagine what 1200 bucks bring home would be like if didn't have bills?
we as a nation need to recognize our personal saving are horrible. We need to forget keeping up with the Jones' and pay down our bills and make 1200 bucks and stick it in the bank.
My hat is off to all off you, you are all fine people and you work hard with no rewards, but it IS our own fault, so let's get up and get moving. stop buying on credit cards. if you don't have the cash don't buy it, if it doesn't fit in your budget don't take a loan to buy it,no matter what they offer.Sure some things we will have to borrow for, but if stop spending, you will see prices come down .
that's just my 2cents I feel bad for those of you that didn't make it, but now you are wiser, brush yourself off and start over without the mistakes. you can do it, YOU can change America.
AND FOR CRYING OUT LOUD,READ LABELS AND BUY AMERICAN MADE!!!!
#42 UPDATE EX-employee responds
To Nikki in Wisconsin
AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 13, 2008
#43 Consumer Comment
Seriously, schneider wasn;t worried.
AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 08, 2008
No one cares what you have to say about a job you never had nor ever will. You can't even drive a car (as proven in another fraudulent report) and you think you are somehow going to get to drive a truck? Just go away already liar.
They need stable people. Not people who can't hold a job for more than a few months at a time. Come to think of it where I work which is not a trucking company, we wont hire anyone there who can't stick with a company for more than a year at a time, and my boss isn't picky. We just cant be training someone every other month.
sorry, allowing you to give a competitors name would instigate others to just file against their competition, to only come back later to suggest their company, ..plus, if you post a competitors name more than likely they will show up on search engines as a Rip-off! - - your comments on this policy are welcome. CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report. In this case we removed an alleged competitor's name
#45 Consumer Comment
I have forgave schneider
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 08, 2008
I need to forgive so I can have peace in my mind & move on with life this will be my last response to this complaint. I don't need to live in the past anymore I need to move on.
#46 Consumer Comment
I have moved on with my life
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 08, 2008
I just wanted to update to say I have moved on with my life I am no longer upset that schneider rejected me.
#47 Consumer Comment
For someone who has 'nothing further to say' to me
AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, July 07, 2008
'John strikes again'
--Yes, once AGAIN I get to expose your fraud.
'John strikes again.'
--OK, you already wrote this once. Did you forget what you wrote in 2 seconds?
'Let me point out to people I have not called john any names & you say all the name calling he has done to me.'
--PLEASE POINT THIS STUFF OUT AS I HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR MONTYHS FOR YOU TO POST THESE ACCUSATIONS AND YET YOU CAN'T.
'Please john continue with your slanderous comments about me.'
--Once I start, I may think about it. Why are you stealing my lines again? I am posting the truth WITH proof - something you can not do. So, posting the truth is not slander.
'Your attempt to ruin me as long with everyone else has failed I have asked you to quit posting to me this is consider harassment I know nothing you say is true about me.'
--What was this babble? You ruin yourself with your babble accusations and then when someone requests the proof, you can not provide it as always. I have the right to point this out to the reading public.
'You just decided to join the crowd when everyone else was saying slanderous comments about me the only person who is lying john is you.'
--What? Other, far more intelligent people have proven to you that YOU ARE WRONG but you can't take that and have to start crying as always.
'You do not know me & I do not know you.'
--I know all about your fraud as it's posted all over for all to see as you have been proven wrong and a liar time and time again.
'I am not afraid with anything you have to say about me john I know the truth & that is all that matters.'
--If you actually know the truth, when are you going to decide to post it?
'You might bully other consumers on this site but I do not have to put up with it.'
--Once AGAIN, POST PROOF PLEASE! You can't as this is yet another lie. Seriously, you have some real mental issues. How hard is it to prove something that you said if it is really true? I do it to you all the time.
'Because I know the truth & that Is all that matters.'
--Again, you just posted this. Why the need to post it 2 seconds later? Did you forget already or do you realize you really have nothing to post as always and need to fill space with bullshit like you always do?
'I have nothing futher to say to you so feel free to post all the slanderous comments about me as you please.'
--This is another lie as you most certainly WILL post to me again with your crying babble and posting absolutely NO proof of your accusations. I can't wait to start posting slanderous comments but I don't have to when the truth is so much more interesting.
'This comment is to everyone else I do not know who this person john is, he harasses daily & bullies me he doesn't know me & I do not know him.'
--Don't like being exposed, then go away like you promised in your fraudulent schneider complaint.
'He just bullies & picks on people on this site.'
--PLEASE POST PROOF OF THIS. I HAVE ASKED MANY, MANY TIMES AND AM STILL WAITING FOR IT. Or, just get it over with and admit you are a liar.
'He says everyone lies when they file complaints well how does he know he does not know mine or there situation.'
--PLEASE POST PROOF OF THIS. I HAVE ASKED MANY, MANY TIMES AND AM STILL WAITING FOR IT. Or, just get it over with and admit you are a liar.
Your attempt to ruin me as long with everyone else has failed I have asked you to quit posting to me this is consider harassment I know nothing you say is true about me.
You just decided to join the crowd when everyone else was saying slanderous comments about me the only person who is lying john is you. You do not know me & I do not know you.
I am not afraid with anything you have to say about me john I know the truth & that is all that matters. You might bully other consumers on this site but I do not have to put up with it.
Because I know the truth & that Is all that matters. I have nothing futher to say to you so feel free to post all the slanderous comments about me as you please.
This comment is to everyone else I do not know who this person john is, he harasses daily & bullies me he doesn't know me & I do not know him. He just bullies & picks on people on this site.
He says everyone lies when they file complaints well how does he know he does not know mine or there situation.
'You are the one who defends these scum businesses, I have nothing futher to say to you john.'
Why do you hide under numerous, fraudulent usernames on this site? Do you really think people can't figure out who you re in your retarded, fraudulent rants? Oh, amnd I am still waiting for the proof that I defend bad business......it's only been a couple months now and you still can't prove it.
#50 UPDATE EX-employee responds
IF YOU DO GRADUATE YOU WILL NOT GET THE MILES PROMISED
AUTHOR: Douglas D Rogers - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, July 06, 2008
Before I agreed to go to the training acadamy in greenbay I asked for a written
document stating the miles I would drive on a weekly basis.
I got the letter on a Schneider letterhead assuring me that I would average 2500 miles per week.
Only 2 times did I drive 2500 miles for this company.
After 7 months this Schneider shorted me over $6000.00 due to miles paid per work assignment.
I have no intention of paying this company for the balance owed since we have a breach of contract on their part.
Now, If they send me the $6000.00 I'll be happy to pay the balance they say I owe.
SO SCHNEIDER, IT'S UP TO YOU. PAY ME AND I'LL PAY YOU.
Make sure all of you get anything a recruiter says in writing on a Schneider letterhead. This will make it a binding contract.
Seems our friends at schneider needs to understand that a contract is a 2 way street.
I would still be driving for them if they had not lied to me.
Be very carefull people!!!!
#51 Consumer Comment
John please do not post to me anymore
AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, June 11, 2008
You the theif john I have not stolen your lines schneider can piss off, it seems like you are the attention seeking whore john. I am asking you again please stop posting to me I have not done anything to you.
You are the one who defends these scum businesses, I have nothing futher to say to you john.
#52 Consumer Comment
UPDATE: Always the thief
AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, June 10, 2008
The only frauds here is scott who come to this website who defend this scum of a company.'
>>How would you know if they are scum or not? YOU never worked for them as you were REJECTED.
'When you been treated wrong from a company you have the right to report them to this website.'
>>But you weren't. You were rightfully REJECTED zand felt the need to file a fraudulent report among the many that you do.
'Of course the company will lie when they have been exposed & have people come to this website to try to scare people.'
>>You have exposed nothing other than your own ignorance to the facts of life.
'The only frauds here are scott & john, who defend these scum companies & businesses.'
>>I defend any company's right to hire and fire whoever can't make the grade such as yourself. Jobs are not a right, they have to be earned. Your consistant lying, racist remarks, and stealing are what prevent you from real employment. You will forever be tied to the bathroom of McDonalds licking the urinals clean.
Submitted: 6/10/2008 9:08:04 AM
Modified: 6/10/2008 11:02:27 AM Charles
Phenix City, Alabama
U.S.A.
'update
I think john is need of attention, he calls everyone frauds who writes complaints on this site.'
>>More lies once again as well as the theft of my lines (as well as our tax money and oxygen) since you can't think for yourself. Please post this proof that I do this about everyone. You can't as you are a liar.
'Companies don't like being exposed on this site so they try there best in personally attacking us.'
>>>What exactly did you 'expose'? The fact that YOU can't make the grade and got REJECTED BEFORE YOU EVEN HAD A JOB? No one is surprised by that one bit.
'What people say doesn't bother me I just laugh @ them it seems he is the attention seeking whore just like with scott.'
>>Another lie as you continually have to respond crying with my lines you stole as always thief.
'Anyone who would defend such a scum company are delusional.'
>>Yes, you are delusional as you have no idea what this company is like because YOU WERE REJECTED EVEN BEFORE YOU COULD GET A JOB.
'Well I am not worried I have not lied about my experince of course the company who you report will try to make you out to be the liar to cover up there mistake.'
>>Yes, you are as it is another of your many, many lies. You had no excperience as you were REJECTED before you could get to experience anything. Do you really think you are a truck driver just because you walked past their property?
What people say doesn't bother me I just laugh @ them it seems he is the attention seeking whore just like with scott. Anyone who would defend such a scum company are delusional.
Well I am not worried I have not lied about my experince of course the company who you report will try to make you out to be the liar to cover up there mistake.
Of course the company will lie when they have been exposed & have people come to this website to try to scare people. The only frauds here are scott & john, who defend these scum companies & businesses.
You must be one of those employees with no troubles & you feel you have the right to make fun of others.
#58 Consumer Comment
I feel like wanting to commit suicide
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 21, 2008
I wake up every morning nothing to look forward to. I am not going to kill myself I just fed up with everything & that is how I feel right know. People update this report saying they are new drivers for schneider.
They do it to try to make me jealous but I don't care anymore. There will be no point in killing myself it will not resolve anything or erase my pain. I guess my life is better of without working for schneider.
One person can be pushed to the edge one to may times, that is how I have been treated. I am just tired of feeling grief.
#59 Consumer Comment
Charles, Get a Grip....
AUTHOR: Anthony - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, April 08, 2008
They hire people to be in charge of hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment and cargo, and you cannot trust that to an idiot. There are background requirements for individuals that must be met because the Federal Government requires people to meet those requirements before a company can hire them. And of course, a company has the right to set forth their own set of standards as well, that must be met in order to be considered for the job.
Schneider doesn't like to hire job hoppers. They like to hire people who are stable and who stick out things for long periods of time. Surely you can understand that. Your saying you would not quit is not supported by your past. People that quit jobs routinely are not good candidates for trucking. It's a job that comes with plenty of aggravation and people quit trucking jobs for many reasons. Hiring people from other lines of work who quit all the time, probably are not going to stick out a driving job either for long periods of time, and they put too much money into training drivers to have them quit when it gets difficult or aggravating for them. It's that simple.
Ms. Sugarpie, you really ought to take the time to read some of the finer comments that Charles has left on this site. Your opinion in regard to "habitual commenter's" is yours to hold, and as hypocritical as it was the minute you typed it, because you don't know a thing about the people you sized up and placed into that box of generalization, it doesn't deserve any response.
Personally, I'm about assisting others into making wiser choices when they enter into this industry, but occasionally you simply can see things for what they are, and the better advice is for someone to move on down the road and to forget a job in trucking, because it's not a glamorous job, nor is it for everyone. Charles is one that will probably never find employment within the industry, and for good reason. He's not cut out for it.
Why do I say that? Because all you have to do is to look at how much crap he has spewed for being turned down one time by Schneider National Carriers because he did not have three years in the workforce that could be verified for the purposes of performing a background check.
He has further admitted to being on disability and having suffered mental problems that required medication to control. Now I don't put him down for these things, but this in itself would most likely preclude him from passing a background check and qualifying for a driving position of a large commercial vehicle.
They continually go back to putting you down, to make themselves feel better about themselves. I mean, think about it..they actually follow and put down a person's life that they don't even know..How happy can they actually be with their own lives?
You're probably a happier and more productive person than them, and actually it's pretty sad.
#61 Consumer Comment
I am not going to argue
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 04, 2008
This website was not created to call people name's or to call them dumb & stupid like the many name's people have called me but somehow they are allowed to say those thing's.
I would not join the military anyway. I don't care if people do think I am dumb or stupid, I really don't care anymore that is how fed up I am with it.
#63 Consumer Comment
Schneider only want's retired military personal
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 03, 2008
Someone suggested I join the military & I would have better chance's of being accepted from schneider, they only want military personal.
I am not joining the military just to get a cdl from schneider & having to wait 4 or 5 year's. Screw schneider if that is who they only want working for them then let them have them.
What does being in the military having to do with people want to be truck driver's.
#65 Consumer Comment
I don't care about schneider anymore
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 03, 2008
Yes I was hurt & disappointed @ the time but I don't really care anymore.
#66 Consumer Comment
Yes you don as you just posted 3 times just today
AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 22, 2008
#67 Consumer Comment
I don't care anymore
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 22, 2008
Schneider lied to me saying if i hold a job for 1 year then they would consider me for there trucking school. I should have kepted my job @ winn-dixie but I though @ the time it would help me get accepted but I was wrong.
But I will not apply with them again they lied to me anyway's they where not going to accept me even if I did have 1 year work experince.
#68 Consumer Comment
To Friendly Observer
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 22, 2008
Also yes there is discrinmantion today people think buy posting lies about me & insulting me will keep me from having a job. I didn't accept the swift job. I have found other companies who offer training but I have to stay with them to 1 to 2 year's.
But once I get a driving job I will not quit. I will work for the same company for more then two year's to prove I will not quit the job. I will not say anything else about this matter on this website again.
I have been insulted many time's about my spelling who are you to judge people friendly observer. Well I really don't care what people think of my spelling or people who read this site, I don't care who believe's me.
Does it make you feel big friendly observer to bash other's about there spelling. Well I will never apply with schneider again. & I do not care what people say. I just wanna move on I have wasted to much of my time on this subject.
So for here on out I am moving on I will not even look @ the report again so people can say whatever they feel like about me I will not respond to them or read what they have to say. I really wish I never said anything I already know my writing isn't perfect.
People do not have the right to continue to insult me about it. People think this website is a good way to embarass & make fun of people.
#69 Consumer Comment
To Friendly Observer
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 22, 2008
Also yes there is discrinmantion today people think buy posting lies about me & insulting me will keep me from having a job. I didn't accept the swift job. I have found other companies who offer training but I have to stay with them to 1 to 2 year's.
But once I get a driving job I will not quit. I will work for the same company for more then two year's to prove I will not quit the job. I will not say anything else about this matter on this website again.
I have been insulted many time's about my spelling who are you to judge people friendly observer. Well I really don't care what people think of my spelling or people who read this site, I don't care who believe's me.
Does it make you feel big friendly observer to bash other's about there spelling. Well I will never apply with schneider again. & I do not care what people say. I just wanna move on I have wasted to much of my time on this subject.
So for here on out I am moving on I will not even look @ the report again so people can say whatever they feel like about me I will not respond to them or read what they have to say. I really wish I never said anything I already know my writing isn't perfect.
People do not have the right to continue to insult me about it. People think this website is a good way to embarass & make fun of people.
#70 Consumer Suggestion
Nikki who started this thread in the first place. I doubt you even follow it any more although I'm sure Charles does.
AUTHOR: Friendly Observer - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 20, 2008
But when you had the opportunity to set the record straight you allowed the phone interviewer to falsify information. When you allowed this to happen you became responsible for the outcome. She was not applying for a job, you were. Any one of reasonable intelligence should understand that when you lie on an application you will likely be found out as most decent jobs require a background check. And any discrepancy in your app and your report will cause you to be declined employment or in this case an employer sponsored training program if you are caught.
If you some how slip through the cracks and are hired. In almost any industry if at any time in the future the employer finds out that false information was given on the application it is cause for immediate termination, even in State that have the most stringent law protecting employees. Even the most generic forms available from office supply stores have this type of disclaimer. Giving false information on an employment application IS CAUSE FOR IMMEDIATE TERMINATION. ( WHO doesn't know that?.)
Ishme my dear you wrote a very touching letter and had some good points but seem to have confused two different respondents or should I say the "Originator of this thread and the one who tries to monopolize it and any other related to Schneider International. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE CHARLIE BOY. And I do mean boy, grow up Charles.
You managed to make it to 22 years old without any work experience you should be proud to muck stalls if you even know what that means. (It means cleaning up horse crap.) They do have horse's were you are from.
I'm amazed no one in this thread has called you a liar as it is common in others. You seem to be stuck on one major point that Schneider has discriminated against you for having no work experience. Many jobs require work history a lot of them require industry related experience.
You most recently said that Swift offered you training ( not guaranteed employment) thank whatever or who ever you believe in. As the thought of you in control of a Semi give me shivers. If in fact you have gone on with Swift why do we keep hearing from you... And yeah I know you are still out there you just posted on http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/220/RipOff0220334.htm on 3/1/08 in fact you are so paranoid ( means you think that everyone is out to get you ) that you responded with not only your irrational rhetoric but lashed out at Anthony. Who for starters didn't even have a comment on that thread. But is one of the most rational and articulate contributers to for sure the Mypie thread and others.
Earlier in this commentary you said you went to work for a grocery store 5/05 to 2/06 and then reapplied to Schneider you were very upset that the interviewer told you the company would fill the open position from more qualified candidates as you only had demonstrated 10 months of work experience. You later go on to say that you did commit to a year of work and were still passed over..
You are in serious need of basic math skills as even a graduate of the 6th grade knows there are 12 months in a year not 10.
You failed to mention whether you quit or were fired. Doesn't really matter as you couldn't keep an entry level job. Likely stocking shelves as anyone in management would have to have a screw loose to put you in any kind of customer facing position with your poor grammar. Take note, I did not mention your spelling. But my 6 year old nephew speaks better than you write. I think you probably felt slighted by someone be it a coworker or customer and had an episode as you routinely do on this site and were let go.
Moving on and backing up at the same time you are certainly a liar as when you mentioned that you were accepted by Swift you were thrilled. Here is your comment. Charles
Phenix City, Alabama
U.S.A Submitted: 10/14/2006 6:50:52 PM I, just got accepted into swift training school so I don't need schneider anymore If I had applied with swift from the beginning, I would not had to deal with all this. I, don't know what the problem was with schneider but swift accepted me even with my lack of work history, I am glad swift accepted me I will work hard not to let them down!
I, am excited they have accepted me I have their prehire letter with me, I don't care about schneider they will not have to worry about me again!. I, have found someone who accepted me & is willing to train me this is my first job I had ever had, I will be able to handle the job.
So either you lied about having the job at the grocery store or you lied about the acceptance to Swift driving school. For all we know you are lying about both. It's been 17 month since you supposedly started truck driving school.. You mention in your most recent comment 3/1/08 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/220/RipOff0220334.htm that you found an other company to accept you. Why don't you mention anything about working for them.. As a matter of fact you mention in Mypies thread that you were accepted and turned them down as you had proven your point.. If trucking is your dream why would you do that?
#71 Consumer Suggestion
Nikki who started this thread in the first place. I doubt you even follow it any more although I'm sure Charles does.
AUTHOR: Friendly Observer - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 20, 2008
But when you had the opportunity to set the record straight you allowed the phone interviewer to falsify information. When you allowed this to happen you became responsible for the outcome. She was not applying for a job, you were. Any one of reasonable intelligence should understand that when you lie on an application you will likely be found out as most decent jobs require a background check. And any discrepancy in your app and your report will cause you to be declined employment or in this case an employer sponsored training program if you are caught.
If you some how slip through the cracks and are hired. In almost any industry if at any time in the future the employer finds out that false information was given on the application it is cause for immediate termination, even in State that have the most stringent law protecting employees. Even the most generic forms available from office supply stores have this type of disclaimer. Giving false information on an employment application IS CAUSE FOR IMMEDIATE TERMINATION. ( WHO doesn't know that?.)
Ishme my dear you wrote a very touching letter and had some good points but seem to have confused two different respondents or should I say the "Originator of this thread and the one who tries to monopolize it and any other related to Schneider International. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE CHARLIE BOY. And I do mean boy, grow up Charles.
You managed to make it to 22 years old without any work experience you should be proud to muck stalls if you even know what that means. (It means cleaning up horse crap.) They do have horse's were you are from.
I'm amazed no one in this thread has called you a liar as it is common in others. You seem to be stuck on one major point that Schneider has discriminated against you for having no work experience. Many jobs require work history a lot of them require industry related experience.
You most recently said that Swift offered you training ( not guaranteed employment) thank whatever or who ever you believe in. As the thought of you in control of a Semi give me shivers. If in fact you have gone on with Swift why do we keep hearing from you... And yeah I know you are still out there you just posted on http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/220/RipOff0220334.htm on 3/1/08 in fact you are so paranoid ( means you think that everyone is out to get you ) that you responded with not only your irrational rhetoric but lashed out at Anthony. Who for starters didn't even have a comment on that thread. But is one of the most rational and articulate contributers to for sure the Mypie thread and others.
Earlier in this commentary you said you went to work for a grocery store 5/05 to 2/06 and then reapplied to Schneider you were very upset that the interviewer told you the company would fill the open position from more qualified candidates as you only had demonstrated 10 months of work experience. You later go on to say that you did commit to a year of work and were still passed over..
You are in serious need of basic math skills as even a graduate of the 6th grade knows there are 12 months in a year not 10.
You failed to mention whether you quit or were fired. Doesn't really matter as you couldn't keep an entry level job. Likely stocking shelves as anyone in management would have to have a screw loose to put you in any kind of customer facing position with your poor grammar. Take note, I did not mention your spelling. But my 6 year old nephew speaks better than you write. I think you probably felt slighted by someone be it a coworker or customer and had an episode as you routinely do on this site and were let go.
Moving on and backing up at the same time you are certainly a liar as when you mentioned that you were accepted by Swift you were thrilled. Here is your comment. Charles
Phenix City, Alabama
U.S.A Submitted: 10/14/2006 6:50:52 PM I, just got accepted into swift training school so I don't need schneider anymore If I had applied with swift from the beginning, I would not had to deal with all this. I, don't know what the problem was with schneider but swift accepted me even with my lack of work history, I am glad swift accepted me I will work hard not to let them down!
I, am excited they have accepted me I have their prehire letter with me, I don't care about schneider they will not have to worry about me again!. I, have found someone who accepted me & is willing to train me this is my first job I had ever had, I will be able to handle the job.
So either you lied about having the job at the grocery store or you lied about the acceptance to Swift driving school. For all we know you are lying about both. It's been 17 month since you supposedly started truck driving school.. You mention in your most recent comment 3/1/08 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/220/RipOff0220334.htm that you found an other company to accept you. Why don't you mention anything about working for them.. As a matter of fact you mention in Mypies thread that you were accepted and turned them down as you had proven your point.. If trucking is your dream why would you do that?
#72 Consumer Suggestion
Nikki who started this thread in the first place. I doubt you even follow it any more although I'm sure Charles does.
AUTHOR: Friendly Observer - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 20, 2008
But when you had the opportunity to set the record straight you allowed the phone interviewer to falsify information. When you allowed this to happen you became responsible for the outcome. She was not applying for a job, you were. Any one of reasonable intelligence should understand that when you lie on an application you will likely be found out as most decent jobs require a background check. And any discrepancy in your app and your report will cause you to be declined employment or in this case an employer sponsored training program if you are caught.
If you some how slip through the cracks and are hired. In almost any industry if at any time in the future the employer finds out that false information was given on the application it is cause for immediate termination, even in State that have the most stringent law protecting employees. Even the most generic forms available from office supply stores have this type of disclaimer. Giving false information on an employment application IS CAUSE FOR IMMEDIATE TERMINATION. ( WHO doesn't know that?.)
Ishme my dear you wrote a very touching letter and had some good points but seem to have confused two different respondents or should I say the "Originator of this thread and the one who tries to monopolize it and any other related to Schneider International. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE CHARLIE BOY. And I do mean boy, grow up Charles.
You managed to make it to 22 years old without any work experience you should be proud to muck stalls if you even know what that means. (It means cleaning up horse crap.) They do have horse's were you are from.
I'm amazed no one in this thread has called you a liar as it is common in others. You seem to be stuck on one major point that Schneider has discriminated against you for having no work experience. Many jobs require work history a lot of them require industry related experience.
You most recently said that Swift offered you training ( not guaranteed employment) thank whatever or who ever you believe in. As the thought of you in control of a Semi give me shivers. If in fact you have gone on with Swift why do we keep hearing from you... And yeah I know you are still out there you just posted on http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/220/RipOff0220334.htm on 3/1/08 in fact you are so paranoid ( means you think that everyone is out to get you ) that you responded with not only your irrational rhetoric but lashed out at Anthony. Who for starters didn't even have a comment on that thread. But is one of the most rational and articulate contributers to for sure the Mypie thread and others.
Earlier in this commentary you said you went to work for a grocery store 5/05 to 2/06 and then reapplied to Schneider you were very upset that the interviewer told you the company would fill the open position from more qualified candidates as you only had demonstrated 10 months of work experience. You later go on to say that you did commit to a year of work and were still passed over..
You are in serious need of basic math skills as even a graduate of the 6th grade knows there are 12 months in a year not 10.
You failed to mention whether you quit or were fired. Doesn't really matter as you couldn't keep an entry level job. Likely stocking shelves as anyone in management would have to have a screw loose to put you in any kind of customer facing position with your poor grammar. Take note, I did not mention your spelling. But my 6 year old nephew speaks better than you write. I think you probably felt slighted by someone be it a coworker or customer and had an episode as you routinely do on this site and were let go.
Moving on and backing up at the same time you are certainly a liar as when you mentioned that you were accepted by Swift you were thrilled. Here is your comment. Charles
Phenix City, Alabama
U.S.A Submitted: 10/14/2006 6:50:52 PM I, just got accepted into swift training school so I don't need schneider anymore If I had applied with swift from the beginning, I would not had to deal with all this. I, don't know what the problem was with schneider but swift accepted me even with my lack of work history, I am glad swift accepted me I will work hard not to let them down!
I, am excited they have accepted me I have their prehire letter with me, I don't care about schneider they will not have to worry about me again!. I, have found someone who accepted me & is willing to train me this is my first job I had ever had, I will be able to handle the job.
So either you lied about having the job at the grocery store or you lied about the acceptance to Swift driving school. For all we know you are lying about both. It's been 17 month since you supposedly started truck driving school.. You mention in your most recent comment 3/1/08 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/220/RipOff0220334.htm that you found an other company to accept you. Why don't you mention anything about working for them.. As a matter of fact you mention in Mypies thread that you were accepted and turned them down as you had proven your point.. If trucking is your dream why would you do that?
#73 Consumer Suggestion
Nikki who started this thread in the first place. I doubt you even follow it any more although I'm sure Charles does.
AUTHOR: Friendly Observer - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 20, 2008
But when you had the opportunity to set the record straight you allowed the phone interviewer to falsify information. When you allowed this to happen you became responsible for the outcome. She was not applying for a job, you were. Any one of reasonable intelligence should understand that when you lie on an application you will likely be found out as most decent jobs require a background check. And any discrepancy in your app and your report will cause you to be declined employment or in this case an employer sponsored training program if you are caught.
If you some how slip through the cracks and are hired. In almost any industry if at any time in the future the employer finds out that false information was given on the application it is cause for immediate termination, even in State that have the most stringent law protecting employees. Even the most generic forms available from office supply stores have this type of disclaimer. Giving false information on an employment application IS CAUSE FOR IMMEDIATE TERMINATION. ( WHO doesn't know that?.)
Ishme my dear you wrote a very touching letter and had some good points but seem to have confused two different respondents or should I say the "Originator of this thread and the one who tries to monopolize it and any other related to Schneider International. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE CHARLIE BOY. And I do mean boy, grow up Charles.
You managed to make it to 22 years old without any work experience you should be proud to muck stalls if you even know what that means. (It means cleaning up horse crap.) They do have horse's were you are from.
I'm amazed no one in this thread has called you a liar as it is common in others. You seem to be stuck on one major point that Schneider has discriminated against you for having no work experience. Many jobs require work history a lot of them require industry related experience.
You most recently said that Swift offered you training ( not guaranteed employment) thank whatever or who ever you believe in. As the thought of you in control of a Semi give me shivers. If in fact you have gone on with Swift why do we keep hearing from you... And yeah I know you are still out there you just posted on http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/220/RipOff0220334.htm on 3/1/08 in fact you are so paranoid ( means you think that everyone is out to get you ) that you responded with not only your irrational rhetoric but lashed out at Anthony. Who for starters didn't even have a comment on that thread. But is one of the most rational and articulate contributers to for sure the Mypie thread and others.
Earlier in this commentary you said you went to work for a grocery store 5/05 to 2/06 and then reapplied to Schneider you were very upset that the interviewer told you the company would fill the open position from more qualified candidates as you only had demonstrated 10 months of work experience. You later go on to say that you did commit to a year of work and were still passed over..
You are in serious need of basic math skills as even a graduate of the 6th grade knows there are 12 months in a year not 10.
You failed to mention whether you quit or were fired. Doesn't really matter as you couldn't keep an entry level job. Likely stocking shelves as anyone in management would have to have a screw loose to put you in any kind of customer facing position with your poor grammar. Take note, I did not mention your spelling. But my 6 year old nephew speaks better than you write. I think you probably felt slighted by someone be it a coworker or customer and had an episode as you routinely do on this site and were let go.
Moving on and backing up at the same time you are certainly a liar as when you mentioned that you were accepted by Swift you were thrilled. Here is your comment. Charles
Phenix City, Alabama
U.S.A Submitted: 10/14/2006 6:50:52 PM I, just got accepted into swift training school so I don't need schneider anymore If I had applied with swift from the beginning, I would not had to deal with all this. I, don't know what the problem was with schneider but swift accepted me even with my lack of work history, I am glad swift accepted me I will work hard not to let them down!
I, am excited they have accepted me I have their prehire letter with me, I don't care about schneider they will not have to worry about me again!. I, have found someone who accepted me & is willing to train me this is my first job I had ever had, I will be able to handle the job.
So either you lied about having the job at the grocery store or you lied about the acceptance to Swift driving school. For all we know you are lying about both. It's been 17 month since you supposedly started truck driving school.. You mention in your most recent comment 3/1/08 http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/220/RipOff0220334.htm that you found an other company to accept you. Why don't you mention anything about working for them.. As a matter of fact you mention in Mypies thread that you were accepted and turned them down as you had proven your point.. If trucking is your dream why would you do that?
#74 Consumer Comment
I'm a trucker's wife, and he drives for Schneider.
AUTHOR: Ishme - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, January 19, 2008
Anyway. On to my point.
I've tried to read all the responses, but it is rather difficult when the spelling and grammar are horrible, not to mention the large postings of a single paragraph. Sorry to say, they make my head hurt, and I skipped them.
My husband spent 7 years in the army, and served a year in Iraq. When he got home, he was released from his military obligation, honorable discharge, blah blah.
He had always talked of driving a truck, he had heavy equipment expierience (seems as if an M1A1 Abrams is classified as "heavy equipment"), and loves to drive. Loves to drive so much that when we go cross country to visit his family, he does the lion's share of the driving.
If that is what he wanted to do, then so be it. He doesn't stand in the way of my dreams, I won't stand in the way of his.
First, he went and got his CDL permit, which cost around $40 if memory serves me. He filled out the application online for Schneider, received his interview phone call a day or two later, and a week after that, he was on a (prepaid/theypaid) bus to Green Bay, Wisconsin. They paid for his hotel, and 2 meals a day. His hotel was a nice one, and he got along well with his roommate. (I did send him with $200 cash as money for incedentals while he was there.)
He passed drivers training with ease, and not long after he got home from his two week training, he was out with a trainer. We still have contact with the trainer, his wife and I became good friends, and we had a bbq this last fall...anyway, two weeks after being with his trainer, he went to take his driving test. He called me after the test, so happy and so proud of his new shiny CDL (Cost, $60).
We waited another few days, and he got a call from Schneider saying we needed to go to XX rental car company and pick up his rental car so he could drive to the OC where his new truck was. No, we didn't have to pay for the rental car, Schneider picked up the tab.
So all this cost us a whopping $300, and while he signed the year contract, he had a job, and one he thought he would love.
He has been from one end of the country to the other. Some checks are bigger than others, but the health insurance is great. They have winter training, and he gets new boots (free). They have spring training, and he gets more (free) boots.
He has had hellish customers, and he has had great customers. He's had breakdowns, hes been up to his knees in mud in customer lots, he's been so frustrated with the company that he's wanted to quit, and he's been so happy with his job that he wants to stay forever.
It isn't easy. I get daily phone calls, I get to see him once a week (he has since moved from systems to dedicated), sometimes he comes home smelling horrible because he hasn't had a shower all week, sometimes he tells me that he can't talk long because he has to leave at 2am to get his load to the customer on time.
Some days he hates it. Some days he loves it. On that note, some days I hate my job too, some days I love my job, and lots of times I don't think I'm getting paid enough...but that is how it is for working america. We are overworked and underpaid, and far far under appreciated for the work we do.
But...if you have a job you love, you will never work a day in your life.
I'm sorry that all those people didn't get to have their chance at being a truck driver, but the requirements are pretty clear, and are there for a reason. They want to see a job history so they don't get screwed out of their $3500 training course, they want to see your criminal history to make sure you aren't a serial killer, and want to see your driving record because they don't want their very expensive trucks turned into very expensive yard art.
You didn't get the job because you lied on the application? Well, in response, I have to ask if you like being lied to, and how many times you would allow someone to lie to you before you said enough? If someone lies, and gets caught, then comes clean, it is sort of a good thing because they finally confessed, but what else are they lying about?
You are 20 or 22 and have never had a job. Ok. Neither right nor wrong, it just IS. However, it is one of the requirements to get a job with someplaces. It isn't that hard to go get a job somewhere, keep your head down and your mouth shut for a year, then apply for the job.
The people that do the phone interviews will not falsify information. If you have a problem that is still showing up on your driving record that shouldn't be there, take the steps to remove it.
Instead of sitting around waiting for someone else to do it for you, or whining about how "they" screwed you out of a job when it was clearly your fault, take steps to fix what is broken, and learn to accept responsibility when you are indeed at fault.
In other words, grow up a bit before you are on your own on the open road with deadlines to meet, miles to drive, trailers that are in horrible shape, 4-wheelers that think they are the only car on the road, weather that is impossible, and you don't have anyone standing over you breathing down your neck to git-er-dun.
Schneider has a lot to offer to you, if you have a lot to offer to them. It is a give and take type of a relationship...you get out of it what you put into it.
Schneider, didn't want me well I found another company who would hire me. I,
proved to schneider & everyone elese that I found another company who would
hire me regardless of my working history.
Finding a job with a smaller company, which from my experience usually treat their drivers fair, is almost impossible with no experience due to insurance regulations. The advice I gave to my students was to stick it out one year, then if things are not going well, find a company that is more suited to your specific needs. Good luck and thanks for your service.
#78 Consumer Comment
OTR training needed first
AUTHOR: Steve01 - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 08, 2008
Anyways when i returned to the states i could not find a job driving otr because of the gap between cdl school and the time i was applying. Everyone i was interested in driving for wanted experienced drivers or to go through the training again. Lets face it school is expensive plus the time your not working or making little money. If i could have i would done the training again or at least a week refresher course.
I had the same problem of the gap in employment as someone else wrote from the time that i got back home and the time i began working again, I am sure that i could have cheated and falsified some documents or something but it would have caught up with me at a later date. I am now driving a dump truck pulling trailer or pushing snow for about a year now and still hear the same story from all the companies that i apply. I will be the first to say i need a trainer otr but not the full classroom and yard training and companies i talk to just dont seem to understand, most of which tell me what i want to hear untill the next phone call.
Schnieder offers a re-entry program, does anyone know how this works, they are also recomended through different millitary websites for separating soilders. I am intersested in thier home run program, drive 2 week and home 1. I hear alot of negitivity about schnieder, swift, jbhunt etc. but i hear this about every company in the world. Anyone who can give me information on the positives and negitives of driving for Schnieder (prior-employee, employee, relitive, not just hear-say) please let me know if this might be worth pursuing.
Charles, I was in buisness for myself for 7 years, i know it might be hard to find a job with little, none or poor work history. I know i wouldnd have hired you with your bad attitude and foul mouth. Try the millitary, they will straighten your a$$ out quick.
#79 Consumer Comment
The Truth about Trucking your recruiter won't tell you
AUTHOR: Samantha - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, May 08, 2007
Second, when looking to become a truck driver you must keep in mind that a recruiter is a "sales person." They get paid on the number of drivers they bring into a company, and they really don't care if you are successful. Some important questions to ask when looking at a company are...1. What is your base pay? NEVER add in bonus as these are just that and some companies have very strict guidelines in acheiving these "bonuses" that are nearly impossible to achieve your first year. A general rule of thumb is to multiply your base pay by 2300 to 2500 miles...this is more likely to be closer to what you will average your first year, but always keep in mind that that most companies experience significant slow periods during the first 3-5 months of the year. 2. Ask what customers are in your local area (within 50 miles of your home) both inbound and outbound. If you live in an area like New England, this is important because many companies have inbound customers but must broker freight to get you out. This can significantly impact your earning potential if you have to stay home and extra day waiting on a load. (A fact most companies won't tell you is that they do NOT pay layover if you are home, and being home puts you at the bottom of the list to get a load out. If you live in an area that is difficult to get out of, perhaps it is better to speak with your dispatcher about sending you home loaded, even if it means that you have to elave on a Sunday night to make your delivery, this will make you active in the system and you are less likely to be delayed.)
Third, if you want to be home every other weekend your first year, you can expect to make in the high 20s to low 30s, depending on your base rate.
Fourth, talk with your family, if you need to, about what holidays are important to them. I found that working a little less than half of all holiday weekends increased my earnings, once I learned where the "team" freight was and was able to work with my dispatcher to be positioned in these locations on the eve of a holiday weekend, such as Memorial Day.
Fifth, your dispatcher will make or break you. You MUST be clear with your dispatcher about your expectations from the very beginning. Have a conversation with them so that you both can be on the same page. If you have a prticularly difficult one, you can always change your dispatcher, but in doing so you may have to provide examples to show that YOU are NOT the problem.
Sixth, to be truely successful, and earn a reputation for being a "good driver" in the eyes of your dispatcher and load planners is to adopt this philosophy: "I don't care where the freight is going, but I expect to have a load when empty. I expect to be able to get home when I give the company notice, and expect that I will be able to get back on the road when my home time is complete."
Seven, if the company, either your dispatcher or load planner, asks for a favor, document EVERY WORD on the satellite. Ask them what they are gonna do for you in return...do NOT let them owe you one..chances are their memory is selective. Request a pre-plan to back up the favor, or sometimes extra pay, depending on the situation. If they want the favor done bad enough, they WILL negotiate.
Eight, NEVER take a load you are unable to do, unless you say that you cannot complete the load on the satellite from the beginning. This will help you to gain great respect from your dispatcher and the laod planners.
Nine, every load you take has potential hazards to you, your reputation, your family, and everyone else on the road...don't take a load if you are too tired to drive, regardless of how many hours your log book says you have! (Safety is key, this really should be NUMBER 1).
Ten, COMMUNICATE with your dispatcher.
Eleven, never expect customer service to call a customer. If you are able to deliver early, call the customer..(if you company does not allow this..say you called for clarification on directions or to find out if they had overnight parking available to eliminate delays in traffic;) let the customer know that you can be there at whatever time you THINK you can be there..but add a couple of hours for possible delays. (For example, say "I can be there between 4:00 and 6:00 this afternoon, depending on traffic"). Customers are more likely to work with the driver, they've come to not trust customer service. Often times customers will take you early..but make sure you are not pushy..just say something like, "I just wanted to find out if there is enough room for me to park there, out of the way, overnight, so I am not delayed in traffic in the morning." The customer will either say yes or no. If yes, "okay great, I can be there between ____ and ____, if its convenient for you and you are open, I am willing to deliver early, if not, I'll wait until my appointment time." You'd be surprised how many loads I've delivered a day early. If you can arrange this with the customer, then make sure your dispatcher knows this so they can get working on another load, or change the time you will be available.
And lastly, plan your trip! Don't spend unnecessary time and money in the truck stops and rest areas. Sleep at every opportunity because you can only drive as much as your body will allow you to..this does not always coincide with your log book. (An budgeting note: make sure you budget enough money to eat. You can expect to pay about $10 per meal in a truck stop. Eat as healthy as you can, because high fat and sugary foods make your body crash, it's best to eat as well a balanced meal as you can to keep your energy from yo-yoing.)
Now with respect to truck driving schools, be clear about how many hours you will have behind the wheel. Keep in mind that these schools DO NOT really teach you how to drive, but they teach you enough to pass the DOT CDL exam, as well as the basics on logging, etc. Once you go out with a company trainer, LISTEN to what he or she has to say, and ASK questions if you are unsure about something. This will show them that you actually want to LEARN.
One other thing I should have mentioned about companies..beware of companies that do not put their policies in writing about extra pay such as drops, layovers and detention. Chances are they will begin skirting the issue and find excuses not to pay you. ASK if they specify these things and amount in their SOP (Standard Operation Procedures) manual. If not, either talk to other drivers that work for the company to see if they get paid for these things or just STAY AWAY.
I hope this is helpful to anyone looking at either Schneider or any other company or school program. I will tell you something both my instructor and trainer told me, "They can teach a monkey to drive a truck, but only a few people can truely be classified as a PROFESSIONAL driver." Strive to be a PROFESSIONAL, and you will be okay. Included in this is managing your time, money, and knowlege, by asking for more training when needed...such as skid pad training before your first winter out.
#80 Consumer Comment
schneider school and hireing practice
AUTHOR: Harvey - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 05, 2007
now charles, this is for you alone. strange as it may seem, and somewhat contrary to what everyone else is saying, in a way i can understand your anger and frustration because with all my years in trucking, believe it or not, they told me i wasn't qualified. i still have the letter of rejection. back then i felt as you do and right now i still wouldn't work for them even though they are a good company for a new driver to start with. you can always move on later.
kelly and hubby, this is for you. i highly commend you on your choice of job change and wish you all the best in your new career choice. the multitude of companies out there that train drivers is too numerous to mention but as to transport america they are an excellant school (my son teaches there) at their facility in sellersburg,in and they would be glad to have you and your husband as students.
last but not least, greg this is for you. start with good training at a reputable co. or school and after you learn how this business functions, by all means go for your owner operator status but please don't try doing it through lease-purchase. first of all no matter how you slice it, you will pay thousands for a truck you will never own, pay for all it's maintenance, it's fuel, it's tires and repairs, it's permits,road use taxes, fuel taxes and your own state and federal taxes plus all the other expenses you will have in this endeavor. not trying to discourage you, just trying to open your eyes. as to how much you can earn? i own my own truck and i net 140,000. per year. stay away from lease purchase. all you will do is buy someone else's truck for them. happy trails..........
the old buzzard
#82 Consumer Comment
All that being said, I have a question for anyone who can answer it
AUTHOR: Kelly - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 27, 2007
My husband and myself are currently looking into trucking as career changes for both of us. I've been an engineer in the television industry for 23 years (which is being phased out due to computer servers taking over for people) and he is a steel worker in a fading industry. We are looking to team drive since all our children are grown and we have the freedom to do so. As I look on the net to find out what a "WorkWell" physical consists of at Swift Driving Academy.... low and behold, I run across this lovely website and read NUMEROUS posts advising me to turn and run, as fast as possible, away from Swift.
I am currently scheduled to finish my last day on the job on Apr. 9th and be in Tennessee on Apr. 10th for "Swift". Fortunately, my employer knows what I'm attempting and are kind enough to grant me time off the schedule to chase my dreams, yet if things were NOT to work out for me, I have a job waiting to return to. NOW, here is my question.
Since reading the posts on Swift AND Schneider, I'm in a MAJOR scramble (as my hubby bows at my feet for finding out the dread before being part of it lol) I contacted 2 additional companies that offer training today. These companies consist of Transport America (seems like a decent company) and P.A.M. Transport. Nobody responded to my email or telephone call from Transport America as of yet, however, P.A.M. is willing to have the both of us in school as early as Apr. 16th. I will know alot more on this approaching Friday. Not only that, but with P.A.M., the school we will be attending is a mere 30 minutes from our home, meaning we can do this while eating and sleeping at our own home in our own bed instead of 2 states away.
Does ANYONE out there have any good, bad or ugly things to report on the additional two companies I have contacted? I sure like foresight better than hindsight and would appreciate any truckers privy to any information that might give me some useful inside scoop. Before I make the commitment. Thanks gang. Have a great day.
PS. Does anyone really think we need to worry about Charles passing the permit test? Just a thought ; )
#83 Consumer Comment
All that being said, I have a question for anyone who can answer it
AUTHOR: Kelly - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 27, 2007
My husband and myself are currently looking into trucking as career changes for both of us. I've been an engineer in the television industry for 23 years (which is being phased out due to computer servers taking over for people) and he is a steel worker in a fading industry. We are looking to team drive since all our children are grown and we have the freedom to do so. As I look on the net to find out what a "WorkWell" physical consists of at Swift Driving Academy.... low and behold, I run across this lovely website and read NUMEROUS posts advising me to turn and run, as fast as possible, away from Swift.
I am currently scheduled to finish my last day on the job on Apr. 9th and be in Tennessee on Apr. 10th for "Swift". Fortunately, my employer knows what I'm attempting and are kind enough to grant me time off the schedule to chase my dreams, yet if things were NOT to work out for me, I have a job waiting to return to. NOW, here is my question.
Since reading the posts on Swift AND Schneider, I'm in a MAJOR scramble (as my hubby bows at my feet for finding out the dread before being part of it lol) I contacted 2 additional companies that offer training today. These companies consist of Transport America (seems like a decent company) and P.A.M. Transport. Nobody responded to my email or telephone call from Transport America as of yet, however, P.A.M. is willing to have the both of us in school as early as Apr. 16th. I will know alot more on this approaching Friday. Not only that, but with P.A.M., the school we will be attending is a mere 30 minutes from our home, meaning we can do this while eating and sleeping at our own home in our own bed instead of 2 states away.
Does ANYONE out there have any good, bad or ugly things to report on the additional two companies I have contacted? I sure like foresight better than hindsight and would appreciate any truckers privy to any information that might give me some useful inside scoop. Before I make the commitment. Thanks gang. Have a great day.
PS. Does anyone really think we need to worry about Charles passing the permit test? Just a thought ; )
#84 Consumer Comment
All that being said, I have a question for anyone who can answer it
AUTHOR: Kelly - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 27, 2007
My husband and myself are currently looking into trucking as career changes for both of us. I've been an engineer in the television industry for 23 years (which is being phased out due to computer servers taking over for people) and he is a steel worker in a fading industry. We are looking to team drive since all our children are grown and we have the freedom to do so. As I look on the net to find out what a "WorkWell" physical consists of at Swift Driving Academy.... low and behold, I run across this lovely website and read NUMEROUS posts advising me to turn and run, as fast as possible, away from Swift.
I am currently scheduled to finish my last day on the job on Apr. 9th and be in Tennessee on Apr. 10th for "Swift". Fortunately, my employer knows what I'm attempting and are kind enough to grant me time off the schedule to chase my dreams, yet if things were NOT to work out for me, I have a job waiting to return to. NOW, here is my question.
Since reading the posts on Swift AND Schneider, I'm in a MAJOR scramble (as my hubby bows at my feet for finding out the dread before being part of it lol) I contacted 2 additional companies that offer training today. These companies consist of Transport America (seems like a decent company) and P.A.M. Transport. Nobody responded to my email or telephone call from Transport America as of yet, however, P.A.M. is willing to have the both of us in school as early as Apr. 16th. I will know alot more on this approaching Friday. Not only that, but with P.A.M., the school we will be attending is a mere 30 minutes from our home, meaning we can do this while eating and sleeping at our own home in our own bed instead of 2 states away.
Does ANYONE out there have any good, bad or ugly things to report on the additional two companies I have contacted? I sure like foresight better than hindsight and would appreciate any truckers privy to any information that might give me some useful inside scoop. Before I make the commitment. Thanks gang. Have a great day.
PS. Does anyone really think we need to worry about Charles passing the permit test? Just a thought ; )
#85 Consumer Comment
Charles, How did things go at Swift?
AUTHOR: Steve [Not A Lawyer] - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 24, 2007
About 6 months ago, you posted that you got accepted at Swift.
Please let us know how things are going there and be sure to give me your truck# so I can watch out for it while I am on the road.
However, the Schieder issue is almost 3 years old now, and I think is a very worn out issue.
Even if I did get more work experince I will not apply with schneider, I decided not to take the job with swift if swift accepted me with never holding a job then what is the problem with schneider. Its not up to people to tell me not to drive a truck I dont care what people say or try to discourage me! If I do get more experince I will not apply with schneider they would just probally turn me down again!
I am tired of all the personally attacks agaisnt me sense I chose to come public about the wrong schneider did to me with all these internet bullies personally attacking me. Laugh, all u wish u have just proved u are the ignorant one thinking u already have job security & think u already have everything!
All people wanna do is discredit me for no reason! I dont need schneider even if I do get more work experince I will not apply with schneider again after how they treated me, cause I never held a job I cannot even get accepted into a trucking school. Let me say this again I was not applying has a company driver I was applying for their trucking school. I do not know why people get this so mixed up. I dont need schneider so people can keep up their personall attacks agasint me for no reason, people can laugh all they feel like!
Even if I did get more work experince I will not apply with schneider, I decided not to take the job with swift if swift accepted me with never holding a job then what is the problem with schneider. Its not up to people to tell me not to drive a truck I dont care what people say or try to discourage me! If I do get more experince I will not apply with schneider they would just probally turn me down again!
I am tired of all the personally attacks agaisnt me sense I chose to come public about the wrong schneider did to me with all these internet bullies personally attacking me. Laugh, all u wish u have just proved u are the ignorant one thinking u already have job security & think u already have everything!
All people wanna do is discredit me for no reason! I dont need schneider even if I do get more work experince I will not apply with schneider again after how they treated me, cause I never held a job I cannot even get accepted into a trucking school. Let me say this again I was not applying has a company driver I was applying for their trucking school. I do not know why people get this so mixed up. I dont need schneider so people can keep up their personall attacks agasint me for no reason, people can laugh all they feel like!
I was sad after realizing that you lack the basic ability to sound out your word's so that you can spell correctly.
I also am sad that you obviously have some very important issues that I am sure you will not acknowledge.
Most importantly is that I am SCARED. For a multitude of reason's, having you behind the wheel of one of these dangerous machines will cause me great anxiety. I feel that many people's lives are going to be at stake. I seriously doubt that you will pass any kind of apptitude test so perhaps we can find a bit of comfort in that.
I am sorry that you are not the right person for a truck driving career, but you must agree that we have a right to be safe on the road that we must share with you.
I am not going to go on and on badgering you, I just hope you will find a clear moment and think logically.
Ok, all of that being said I must admit that this thread cracked me, I was laughing so hard that tears were rolling off my face.
I was sad after realizing that you lack the basic ability to sound out your word's so that you can spell correctly.
I also am sad that you obviously have some very important issues that I am sure you will not acknowledge.
Most importantly is that I am SCARED. For a multitude of reason's, having you behind the wheel of one of these dangerous machines will cause me great anxiety. I feel that many people's lives are going to be at stake. I seriously doubt that you will pass any kind of apptitude test so perhaps we can find a bit of comfort in that.
I am sorry that you are not the right person for a truck driving career, but you must agree that we have a right to be safe on the road that we must share with you.
I am not going to go on and on badgering you, I just hope you will find a clear moment and think logically.
Ok, all of that being said I must admit that this thread cracked me, I was laughing so hard that tears were rolling off my face.
I was sad after realizing that you lack the basic ability to sound out your word's so that you can spell correctly.
I also am sad that you obviously have some very important issues that I am sure you will not acknowledge.
Most importantly is that I am SCARED. For a multitude of reason's, having you behind the wheel of one of these dangerous machines will cause me great anxiety. I feel that many people's lives are going to be at stake. I seriously doubt that you will pass any kind of apptitude test so perhaps we can find a bit of comfort in that.
I am sorry that you are not the right person for a truck driving career, but you must agree that we have a right to be safe on the road that we must share with you.
I am not going to go on and on badgering you, I just hope you will find a clear moment and think logically.
Ok, all of that being said I must admit that this thread cracked me, I was laughing so hard that tears were rolling off my face.
I was sad after realizing that you lack the basic ability to sound out your word's so that you can spell correctly.
I also am sad that you obviously have some very important issues that I am sure you will not acknowledge.
Most importantly is that I am SCARED. For a multitude of reason's, having you behind the wheel of one of these dangerous machines will cause me great anxiety. I feel that many people's lives are going to be at stake. I seriously doubt that you will pass any kind of apptitude test so perhaps we can find a bit of comfort in that.
I am sorry that you are not the right person for a truck driving career, but you must agree that we have a right to be safe on the road that we must share with you.
I am not going to go on and on badgering you, I just hope you will find a clear moment and think logically.
Ok, all of that being said I must admit that this thread cracked me, I was laughing so hard that tears were rolling off my face.
#92 Consumer Comment
I don't need schneider
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, December 13, 2006
I got accepted from swift I wish I had applied with swift from the beginnging if i knew schneider was going to treat me like this!. I, have not done anything wrong my belief is schneider did not want to accept me well I showed schneider that I could get accepted into a trucking school!, without needing their help in learning to become a truck driver! they are other companies besides schneider who offer company-paid training!.
I, thought schneider would be a great way to learn to become a truck driver, I thought wrong cause I never held a job I could not even get accepted into a trucking school, I am not the only one schneider has done this to.
Schneider, told me my application was in good status It was a waste of time for me to apply with schneider I should have applied with swift sense I had better chances of being accepted from them then schneider!, well if people continue to apply with schneider & they get burn lets say they had been warned about schneider!.
#93 Consumer Suggestion
T Goodness this will FINALLY END!!!
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 02, 2006
You really don't need to repeat your story every few days -- WE ALL GET IT BY NOW... GET OVER IT! MOVE ON WITH LIFE!
With the funds you make driving, PLEASE ENROLL in a "Beginning English" class. Take this as constructive criticism -- YOU REALLY NEED IT!
#94 Consumer Comment
People don't give up do they
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, December 01, 2006
SO- I began to follow this thread... and soon, there was Charles' first post, written on 6/12/04. It seemed he was disappointed to be turned down by Schneider for reasons that are commonplace throughout the industry- lack of verifiable and stable work history. He took this rejection personally. So much so that he posted, approximately, *60* more posts on this thread over the 2& 1/2 years that followed. Not counting his contributions elsewhere. Recently he has announced he has been hired by Swift.
I honestly don't mean this post to be insulting to you personally, Charles. But I and many others can recognize signs of mental instability in your repeated, single-minded posts, your lack of a rational argument, and your hypersensitivity to criticism. Your disordered spelling and word usage strongly suggests a cluttered, unfocused, and disordered mind. I think you need help. I am not putting you down, there is no shame in needing help. But I cringe to imagine you behind the wheel of an 80,000 lb truck, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near you. I'm just being honest here.
Besides, would you want Swift to read all your ranting posts about another carrier? They would think, what would keep him from doing that to us? Is he that mentally unstable? And believe me, the word is, Schneider is a much better place to work than where you said you are going... Best wishes to you Charles. Please, if only for now, reconsider your career, for the safety of everyone else on the road.
#96 Consumer Comment
Excellent choice Charles
AUTHOR: David - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, November 08, 2006
#97 Consumer Comment
I am not listening to these people
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, October 28, 2006
All, people have done is bring ridcule agaisnt me they haven't figured out but know I am not listening!. I, don't need schneider! I got accepted from swift I should have applied with swift from the beginning!.
#98 Consumer Comment
Charles, I am concerned
AUTHOR: Tom - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 26, 2006
Charles, aside from the fact that I believe you could better channel your energy into some Community College English classes to learn how to spell and communicate better, I am now concerned that you may actually get a CDL and be out on the road in an 80,000 lb. rig with your pent-up anger. For the safety of you and others, please commit to at least anger management classes.
Charles, please seek assistance in these areas as soon as possible. You will be a better person and truck driver for it.
Best Regards,
Tom from California
#99 Consumer Comment
I just got accepted into swift training school
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, October 14, 2006
I, am excited they have accepted me I have their prehire letter with me, I don't care about schneider they will not have to worry about me again!. I, have found someone who accepted me & is willing to train me this is my first job I had ever had, I will be able to handle the job.
#100 Consumer Comment
If I did hold a job for 12 months I would not apply for schneiders company-paid training school
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 01, 2006
If, you have a clean back ground & clean driving record you still cannot be excepted into a trucking school, & its even tought to be excepted into a company-paid training school because you had no work history!.
I, wasted my time & effort to apply with schneider! If they was just going to turn me down!, even If I did hold a job for 12 months I would not apply for their company-paid training! after how ugly they told to me!, about not having a work history!.
It doesn't always work out that way, because you will find yourself 3 states away from your home state on your first day off from time to time, but 90% of the time they stick to their home time promise to you. If you're 2-3 weeks OTR and only getting 2-3 days home time you're working for the wrong company.
I won't mention the companies here, but if you do a google search for OTR trucking companies you will find the ones that give 21 out / 9-10 in... quite a few actually. Spend some time and do the research.
#102 Consumer Comment
People have no right to say anything about your typing or spelling
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, May 18, 2006
#104 Consumer Comment
Here people go again
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 03, 2006
#106 Consumer Comment
Do people ever give up you people can insult me all you wish
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, May 01, 2006
On this website you can insult me about my spelling all you feel like I will not quit posting complaints & you people can defend these people curt, greg, who insult me & schneider or try to tear me up!
Ya'll try to ruin my day but it's not going to work this website isn't used for insulting people & causing drama like curt, len, & greg. I don't need to take this abuse & I am not going to about my typing & writing. Tthis website wasn't intend for people to judge people I don't know who people think they are treating me like this. I had every right to report to this website the type of treatment schneider gave to me & if you have some kind of problem with me then thats your problem. We will make a difference from how companies treat us!.
#107 Consumer Comment
Thanks for the info- Curt, Greg and Len
AUTHOR: Pat - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, May 01, 2006
Yes, your spelling and grammar are both terrible. Not to mention 'potty' mouth. And just what do you think someone reading your resume would think? Your resume cannot be a "run-on sentence" with no periods! You sound angry and totally wound, just the kind of person a trucking company wants driving, right??? In the name of God, get professional help. I can't believe the home you are in is letting you have internet access.
#108 Consumer Comment
I don't need serious help
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 30, 2006
#113 Consumer Comment
I don't need serious help
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 27, 2006
#115 Consumer Comment
I don't need serious help
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 27, 2006
#116 UPDATE Employee
Charles, you need serious help
AUTHOR: A - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, April 26, 2006
You are a very paranoid person! All Sean was doing was providing information about his own experiences in the trucking industry. And he did not specify anyone in particular regarding bad spelling and grammar.
Charles, you seem to be a legend in your own mind. And you wonder why people label you a "madman". For crying out loud, you have made 12 consecutive (that means "in a row") posts on your Claude Raptis report, pretty much saying a whole lot of nothing. No wonder people make fun of you.
You will need a lot thicker skin if you want to get by in this world.
#118 Consumer Comment
To sean your judgement about peoples spelling is really ridiculous i do have the brains
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 17, 2006
#119 Consumer Suggestion
GOTA HAVE BRAINS TO DRIVE A TRUCK
AUTHOR: Sean - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, April 13, 2006
Anyways, I have been driving a truck for 5 years now, got my start at a BIG company for 1 year, dropped them and moved to another big company for yet another year, mostly because 2nd company didn't require me to drive east coast. Any hoo
From there, I came to the understanding (Via CB and just BSing with other drivers) that I had put in enough time that I could drive for SMALLER more driver friendly companies and owner operators. Which means all kinds of more good things, like MORE MONEY, MORE HOMETIME, and not being treated like a # by a company or a classroom graduate by the other drivers on the road.
In 2 years, I went from a guy driving for a LARGE company at .38cpm to actually making REAL money in a REAL truck at %50 or more of what the load paid. Now i'm looking into buying my own truck so I can make a full %100 of that.
I suppose what I'm trying to say is for you guys starting out driving a truck, if its what you REALLY want to do, and you don't have a friend or family member with a truck you can jump on with, go with a big company, stick it out for a year or two just to gain some experience, THEN you can get into REAL trucking and make good money and be happy. Just takes time.
OH, on a side note, it helps to have good people skills and the ability to communicate with people face to face and over the phone.
10-4?
#120 Consumer Suggestion
To Charles !!!!
AUTHOR: Dave - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 01, 2006
#121 Consumer Comment
How Wierd Is This?
AUTHOR: Helene - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, March 31, 2006
The comments about Schneider were of interest to me but I don't know if I want to commit to going so far from Texas to train. And if there would be the same sort of desparate cutthroat competition I am seeing now in the college in which I am enrolled.
Gone are the days when you were able to learn something because you loved learning! Because some guy in India, China or wherever they can do it cheaper, but not neccesaarily better, is going to have your job!
I went to a Swift Recruiting seminar and then I remembered an old saying:" Beware of a place that says they are always hiring because they are also always firing!" AND CHECK IT OUT!
After reading all of the stuff that is posted here, I have to admit I started thinking hard about what I was going to do with the rest of my life.
And I wonder how much money these trucking companies are making with their expensive schools and how many people are being enticed to enroll without a hope of graduating and then being stuck with the expenses for the ENTIRE class, never mind how much of it they actually attended before they were cut out? And how much money these trucking companies actually make for hauling freight?
Because of all the liars and scammers in Texas these days --especially when it comes to employment -- you betch I am going to check it out real good before I commit to anything!
I don't want to find out that I was lured in under false pretenses and then because of one minor detail, I am going to have any resources that I have garnished for some overpriced truck driving training...Off a minimum wage job, this can HURT! Take forever to pay it off...
So I decided to go back to school and get a degree instead of just a high school diploma. It will buy me some time until something happens in the job market...which right now is still not too good in Central Texas after the .com economy meltdown and most of the jobs going overseas to India, Pakistan and China.
The other day, I talked to some Mexican nationals( in Spanish) on the city bus who were FORCED to come to the US after THEIR JOBS were outsourced to CHINA! IMAGINE MEXICAN LABOR BEING OUTSOURCED TO CHINA! This is RIDICULIOUS! They were having the same problem finding work that I am and they have all sorts of referrals and family connections going for them...
It is CUTTHROAT in this school with all the younger students attempting to bury you and outdo you anyway they can including "accidentally" tripping you physically and messing up your lab work. How I feel sorry for the next generation of hospital patients because their nurses -- at least the ones around here-- are ONLY going in it for the MONEY! I see cliques of them passing test answers back and forth and nothing is done. It is age, race, ethnic and gender prejudice pure and simple... I got the heck out of that program when I found out that there is a Hepatitis B shot and a series of other questionable vaccines that are required before the nursing program students can enrolle in the actual program here. Several I have spoken with had extremely bad effects from the Hepatitis shot so I guess things will balance themselves out after a while.
So many times I wish I was driving out there but with the unstable petroleum markets and the various US government policies that appear to be so stackde AGAINST the AMERICAN working people, all I can do is keep my head down and wonder what in the HELL is going to happen next! And wonder what is going to happen to all of the people whose jobs are being downsized and outsourced like mine was originally when they realize that almost any job they train for can end up the same way.
I am still in school and trying to find a subject I can major in that won't go to India, Indonesia, Pakistan or any other Stan or China...
Who is ripping the people off most: these truck driving companies with bogus schools, the US government with their policy of underbidding American jobs and subsidizing them with our taxpayer money or the damned corporate yuppies who say screw the USA --and I sure hope they get to be homeless like they are making all my friends-- and send jobs to the lowest bidder wherever in the world these places might be located????
#123 Consumer Comment
schneider liars
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 16, 2006
#124 Consumer Comment
nothing works out the way you plan it
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 15, 2006
#125 Consumer Comment
don't you realize its because of people like curt,greg who defend schneider are messing up people to let schneider get caught for their criminal ways
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 15, 2006
#126 Consumer Comment
don't you realize its because of people like curt,greg who defend schneider are messing up people to let schneider get caught for their criminal ways
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 15, 2006
#127 Consumer Comment
don't you realize its because of people like curt,greg who defend schneider are messing up people to let schneider get caught for their criminal ways
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, March 15, 2006
#128 Consumer Comment
You go for it Charles
AUTHOR: Robert - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 13, 2006
Wait...wait for it....BWAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA!!!!!!
Good grief.
The employer can hire and fire anyone they want.
Considering the piss-poor drivers The Great Pumpkin hires, how bad do you have to be to NOT get hired by them? Do you drive like you spell?
I thought you were on your way to Arizona to drive for that other bastion of brilliant driving skills...Swift. I guess that fell through. You did know that writing is part of the job, right?
I offered the advice of starting your own business. Between your mother and yourself, the two of you should be able to do just great.
Of course, if one of you gets fired from your own company, will one sue the other for discrimination?
#129 Consumer Comment
Schneider job discrimination ruthless people
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 13, 2006
#131 Consumer Comment
schneider LIARS misleading people
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, March 09, 2006
#132 Consumer Comment
i rather be poor then work for schneider i hate people who they have pride
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 07, 2006
#133 Consumer Comment
i rather be poor then work for schneider i hate people who they have pride
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 07, 2006
#134 Consumer Comment
i rather be poor then work for schneider i hate people who they have pride
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 07, 2006
#135 Consumer Comment
frank you'er so full of S***
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, March 07, 2006
I guess i rather be on welfare sense that is my only option at the moment in order for me to surive without being starved to death. I would not mind living in a homeless shelter at least it would be better then nothing, alot better then living on the streets in the cold & sleeping in the park.
#136 Consumer Comment
Wow, Frank! That's big bucks for sure......
AUTHOR: Adolph - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 06, 2006
As for me, I'll just have to console myself by looking at my 2005 IRS form 1099, which shows gross income from Schneider of over $538 thousand for 2005.
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$538,000 earned in 2005? Jeez Louise! That's over ten thousand per week. If I made that kind of money, in a few months I could junk my Yugo and buy a Lamborghini.Why.....I could even eat at the airport regularly.
#137 Consumer Comment
Will not work for schneider national I don't care anymore screw trucking i will not let schneider or anybody else discourage me for making my goal
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, March 06, 2006
#138 Consumer Comment
Schneider can PISS off, I do not trust them anymore or any other trucking school!.
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, March 05, 2006
#139 UPDATE Employee
Charles, Glad to See You're Still Recovering from Your Brain Injury
AUTHOR: Frank - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, March 04, 2006
If you spent as much time actually looking for a driving job as you do bemoaning your lot in life, you'd already been driving for somebody. The clue phone is ringing, and you're not answering! With all the trucking companies out there, the shortage of quality drivers, and you with no job, strongly suggests that the problem clearly lies with you or your character (I actually find you to be a "real character").
As for me, I'll stay with Schneider as an independent contractor. Since they treat me so badly (according to you), I'll just have to console myself by looking at my 2005 IRS form 1099, which shows gross income from Schneider of over $538 thousand for 2005. It's a bitch being a starving loser with Schneider! I'll just laugh all the way to the bank.
#140 Consumer Comment
schneider wants to treat me like crap then I will do whatever it takes to make them lose business schneider does not know they are really hurting
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 27, 2006
#141 Consumer Comment
Ignore people like greg, & curt
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 25, 2006
#142 Consumer Comment
To greg I don't need schneider to get into the trucking industry
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
#143 Consumer Comment
Schneider will find excuses not to hire you
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
#144 Consumer Comment
Schneider will find excuses not to hire you
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
#145 Consumer Comment
Schneider will find excuses not to hire you
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
#146 Consumer Comment
Schneider will find excuses not to hire you
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
#147 Consumer Comment
Schneider will sufffer at the end
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, February 22, 2006
If schneider does this to the FBI under cover agent then the agent can expose to corruption that in schneider for what they do to people making it hard for people to get in their training school who has a clean record & a clean driving record but has not worked in the last 36 months is the reason why schneider does not except people into their school, half the time schneider turns down people from what I have read into other report.
If people like greg don't believe me about schneider then they need to go ahead & apply & if they get turn down they don't need to get upset or if they get fired from schneider after training people have tried to warn people about schneider, including myself but if they don't believe us then the "HELL" with them they will have to experince the problem theirself why should I have to be put threw this abuse from schneider, I did meet their hiring critira when I applied 12/03 I was turned down but the mananger told me that my application was in good status these operaters are messing the chance for people to be excepted into their training school, if this keeps up nobody will bother to apply with them they will have nobody to train or screw up then they will lose their business. Its time to quit letting driving schools get richer while poor people get poorer.
#148 Consumer Suggestion
If you do not do your research you will be doomed
AUTHOR: Rick - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2006
When I told my wife that I was going to drive a truck I also told her that I would most likely change jobs at least four times before I could earn A solid living wage , however it took only three moves lucky me I currently earn between 75/80 thousand per year as a company driver . You can to but you must do the right things first clean record.research talk to as many people as possible and plan plan plan
#149 Consumer Comment
People who have been wronged by schneider needs to start a civil suit for damanges & for who have been mislead
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2006
People should also bring a civil suit because people did meet schneiders qualifications & I met schneiders qualificationsto gain excepness into their training school & I was not told how to improve my chances for gaining exceptince, into their company-paid training school. We live in a right to work country where anybody whoo meets a companies qualifactions to be excepted into their company-paid training & them lying about you for them not to except you!.
A group of people who have been wronged by schneider needs to bring in a civil law-suit agaisnt schneider for damanges from them & for not being excepted into their company-paid training just because they haven't held a job for 36 months! If their is a civil suit I will join it, because I did meet schneiders qualifications & I still got turned down any any person who has been wronged by any trucking company needs to file a civil lawsuit agaisnt them for damanges & suffering!.
This website is meant to ruin reptuations of trucking companys who are full of corruption & commiting crimes wrongfully terminanted people like I have read what schneider does who has done nothing wrong to be terminanted. I am afraid to apply anywhere else because I am afraid to gain exceptance in another company-paid training school I still want to be a long haul truck driver & will do whatever it takes to gain exceptance into a driving school even If i have to save my money because schneider, is a waste of time & a bunch of ruthless people I thought schneider would be a great way to train & become a truck driver I thought wrong!. Looks like I have no hope know if i can't be excepted into schneiders training school I will not be excepted into any other!.
#150 Consumer Comment
People who have been wronged by schneider needs to start a civil suit for damanges & for who have been mislead
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2006
People should also bring a civil suit because people did meet schneiders qualifications & I met schneiders qualificationsto gain excepness into their training school & I was not told how to improve my chances for gaining exceptince, into their company-paid training school. We live in a right to work country where anybody whoo meets a companies qualifactions to be excepted into their company-paid training & them lying about you for them not to except you!.
A group of people who have been wronged by schneider needs to bring in a civil law-suit agaisnt schneider for damanges from them & for not being excepted into their company-paid training just because they haven't held a job for 36 months! If their is a civil suit I will join it, because I did meet schneiders qualifications & I still got turned down any any person who has been wronged by any trucking company needs to file a civil lawsuit agaisnt them for damanges & suffering!.
This website is meant to ruin reptuations of trucking companys who are full of corruption & commiting crimes wrongfully terminanted people like I have read what schneider does who has done nothing wrong to be terminanted. I am afraid to apply anywhere else because I am afraid to gain exceptance in another company-paid training school I still want to be a long haul truck driver & will do whatever it takes to gain exceptance into a driving school even If i have to save my money because schneider, is a waste of time & a bunch of ruthless people I thought schneider would be a great way to train & become a truck driver I thought wrong!. Looks like I have no hope know if i can't be excepted into schneiders training school I will not be excepted into any other!.
#151 Consumer Comment
People who have been wronged by schneider needs to start a civil suit for damanges & for who have been mislead
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2006
People should also bring a civil suit because people did meet schneiders qualifications & I met schneiders qualificationsto gain excepness into their training school & I was not told how to improve my chances for gaining exceptince, into their company-paid training school. We live in a right to work country where anybody whoo meets a companies qualifactions to be excepted into their company-paid training & them lying about you for them not to except you!.
A group of people who have been wronged by schneider needs to bring in a civil law-suit agaisnt schneider for damanges from them & for not being excepted into their company-paid training just because they haven't held a job for 36 months! If their is a civil suit I will join it, because I did meet schneiders qualifications & I still got turned down any any person who has been wronged by any trucking company needs to file a civil lawsuit agaisnt them for damanges & suffering!.
This website is meant to ruin reptuations of trucking companys who are full of corruption & commiting crimes wrongfully terminanted people like I have read what schneider does who has done nothing wrong to be terminanted. I am afraid to apply anywhere else because I am afraid to gain exceptance in another company-paid training school I still want to be a long haul truck driver & will do whatever it takes to gain exceptance into a driving school even If i have to save my money because schneider, is a waste of time & a bunch of ruthless people I thought schneider would be a great way to train & become a truck driver I thought wrong!. Looks like I have no hope know if i can't be excepted into schneiders training school I will not be excepted into any other!.
#152 Consumer Comment
People need to take action agaisnt schneider for misleading people I feel discouraged & ange
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 21, 2006
After reading this forum I think it would have been a mistake in siging a contract with them if they are just going to treat me like trash! I don't need them, schneider mislead me & lied to me I feel discouraged & angered! people whine & bitch about people not getting jobs & when people go look for training in their area of internest & get turned down I will do whatever it takes to be a truck driver & I will not let schneider discourage me for being a truck driver for not gaining admittence into their school!.
#153 Consumer Comment
If trucking schools keeps making it hard for people to get it they will lose their money
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2006
#154 Consumer Comment
I am moving on from these creeps & liars
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, February 20, 2006
#155 Consumer Comment
Make sure you prepare a five letter coverhead to explain why you were umemployed for 36 months
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
#156 Consumer Comment
OH REALLY IS THEIR A FULL MOON OUT ALL THE CRAZY PEOPLE ARE OUT & ABOUT
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
#157 Consumer Comment
Suggestion for Charles
AUTHOR: Pete - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
#158 Consumer Comment
I WAS HURT & ANGERED BY NOT BEING EXCEPTED INTO SCHNEIDER TRAINING SCHOOL SO I FEEL A LITTLE DESTROYED
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
I probally have to be on welfare the rest of my life because I have no college education or probally have to work for a min. hour job $5.25 when schneider did not except me I was a little destroyed I figured it would be the best chance for me getting the training that I needed to get my CDL, so know I am back at the beginning schneider will not ruin my day anymore because I will not even consider them to anyone else for the way they treated me I did meet their hiring criteria & I did meet their qualifications & I asked the operater who I spoke with I asked her what I didn't me she yelled at me & refused to answer me that was how rude she was to me.
I don't know who I cam complain about the operater's actions then she spoke rudelt towards me saying that they are going threw more qualified people. Schneider has made my life miserable if this is they way that they treat people then I will never want to work for them! or to apply with them again!.
#159 Consumer Comment
Who cares what people speak about your writing or spelling if you have been treated wrong by schneider like I have speak out
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, February 19, 2006
#160 Consumer Comment
THEY NEED SCHOOLS TO HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE UNABLE TO PAY SCHNEIDER IS NOT THE EASY WAY TO GET YOUR CDL
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 18, 2006
#161 Consumer Comment
MISLEADING EMPLOYMENT
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 18, 2006
#162 Consumer Comment
Manangers at companyes refuse to except you just to abuse you because they do not want you to be working for their company
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 18, 2006
Well I don't care if scnheider don't like mean If they really feel that way about certain people then I do not want to work for these kind of ruthless & abusive people or if they have jealous women working in their who does not want anybody else to suceed in their company well the hell with it I do not have to have schneider I would go somewhere else where I am wanted If they have that many uncaring people, schneider has turned me down the last time they are a shitty company they have made it clear they do not want me to drive their trucks or to be trained in their school well "FUCK" them they are a waste of my time if they have ruthless & abusive manangers who do not except you because they have that right to everybody has the right to work or be excepted into a school but if they have racist & predjuice people in schneider who can mess you up I will go find a company where i am wanted & not be treated like trash by schneider, because I want to get out & make money for a living but can't do it if they have piece of trash managers who turns everybody down.
They probally turn down a 100 people & only very little make it & the other 90 people get turned down their is something wrong their, well schneider does not have to except me I am not that "DESPERATE" I can save my own money if that is what it takes besides worring about being excepted into schneider's little driving school or maybe I will find one in my local town if that they don't have racist & predjuice manangers like schneider who is trying to prevent me from going to a trucking school.
I am curious, has to how many people actually make it threw the hiring process before signing the school contract & how many get turned down by schneider because they hate everybody & are predjuice agaisnt everybody I wonder what kind of people they really except besides turing them down the first sec. after they review your application.
#163 Consumer Comment
wrongful treatment from schneider ruthless people scum of the earth schneider has completlely been unfair towards me about this work history
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, February 18, 2006
#164 Consumer Comment
Schneider waste of time do not apply
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, February 17, 2006
#165 Consumer Comment
I don't need schneider this is to everybody on this website screw schneider
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, January 08, 2006
#166 Consumer Comment
To Slider How can you say I am reckless????????????
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, December 27, 2005
#167 Consumer Suggestion
Just some observations:
AUTHOR: Slider - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 24, 2005
I lost my job back in the winter months of early 2003 and spent most of that year trying to figure out what to do... although I was searching, I had been a pest control operator for many years and just couldn't seem to find any openings in my line of work. I was on unemployment for nearly nine months before hearing about the WIA program and appying for it...
Helene, I know you didn't have a very good experience with this, but if you will tell them what you want up front, they will work with you much faster in getting you the training you want. I went to a driving school that had a pretty decent two-week course and there were a lot of recruiters there every other day or so. Much can be done from that program, so I wouldn't turn my back on it if I were you.
Charles, although you are quite thin-skinned on this, the other drivers you have heard from are correct: your attitude stinks--listen to us and learn! If you truly want a career in this or any other field you must first learn that it is not "all about YOU"! You claim to have an education, and perhaps you really do--but in what, exactly? Your spelling is atrocious, your sentences are rambling and poorly punctuated... you also form one single paragraph to handle a multitude of topics... Even your speech here indicates that you are reckless!
If you are disciplined and willing to listen and learn, there is no reason you cannot make it in this business at all. Do your year for SNI or whomever you receive your OJT from. The onus is on you here, not the company. Whether or not you choose to admit it, you are the recipient of a boon, even though you must pay it back, you will learn to conduct yourself and possibly learn to PROFIT from your endeavours as well.
I do not work for SNI, though I know many who do. I would not work for SNI, but I don't have to, either... just remember that you don't start your career with a company in the CEO's office.
#168 Consumer Comment
NOBODY WILL KEEP ME QUIT ABOUT HOW I WAS WRONGED BYE SCHNEIDER NO MATTER HOW MUCH CURT, LEN, FRANK, & GREG PUT ME DOWN PEOPLE HAVE THE RIGHT TO SPEAK
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 28, 2005
#169 Consumer Comment
Schneider is sending its cronies like curt, len,frank,greg to this website to attack people who complain on this website & to harass people
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, September 26, 2005
#170 Consumer Comment
PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO CRITICIZE OR ATTACK PEOPLE WHO SPEAK OUT WHO HAVE BEEN WRONGED BYE SCHNEIDER
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, August 29, 2005
#171 Consumer Comment
3 YEAR WORK HISTORY RIDICULOUS
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 02, 2005
#172 Consumer Comment
I DON'T GIVE A DAMN HOW I MAKE SCHNEIDER LOOK OR THE TRUCKING INDUSTRY
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 26, 2005
#173 Consumer Comment
I DO NOT GIVE A DAMN WHAT PEOPLE THINK OR SAY ABOUT ME ON THIS WEB SITE
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, July 12, 2005
i am not the only one complaining on this website for some reason people like you & curt want to beat up on people & attack people from ya'll's own mistakes i will not live in bondage because of people like you which i had to deal with all my life.
Greg you are a pathological liar, to say i am the only one against this company & accusing me of beating up on this company because they are a whole bunch of other people on this website besides me complaining about this company so don't blame everything on me GREG for trying to SWAY you away from this company.
You are nothing but a bully just like curt len who like to come hear to just insult & to attack people,ya'll can dish it out but ya'll can't take it.So in closing i would just like to say that i will not live in bondage with what people think or say to me,thank you very much.
I do not need schneider to get into the trucking industry if that is how they feel about me i am still going to be a truck driver & what i read from other people as saved me from being ripped of later & saved from unfair treatment.
#174 Consumer Comment
I will not apply with schneider again, for how they treated me
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 18, 2005
I rather not be treated this way mabye trucking isn't for me & i cannot believe that i wanted to be a truck driver, after reading these reports i have saved myself alot of mental anquise if i did decided to go with schneider & be terminated later for no reason after reading what they do to people mabye it was good that schneider turned me down i don't need to belong to a company who will treat me like crap for no reason if that's how they feel about me in my opinion no trucking company should not terminate people if they do not do nothing wrong, i do not need schneider if that is how they treat people they except people & then terminate them for no reason. I will not apply with schneider again, for how they treated me because i had no work experince & would not except me into their trucking school because of that.
#175 Consumer Comment
IGNORE COMMENTS FROM PEOPLE LIKE CURT, LEN, FRANK, & GREG ,DON'T LISTEN TO THESE PEOPLE
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, May 07, 2005
#176 Consumer Suggestion
The reason I explain things here is so that beginners don't end up in a bad situation.
AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 04, 2005
I am interested in making sure some beginner knows exactly what they may end up facing if they decide to get involved in trucking.
You see, the whole idea of this site is to warn unsuspecting people of potential problems.
You can guarantee one thing for sure. The trucking companies aren't going to tell you anything bad. They want to hire you. They want to have you drive the trucks, so they can make money off of you.
So, naturally, they will make the job sound great.
A beginner enters the industry thinking one thing, and then finds out it's altogether different. By then, he has paid thousands of dollars for training and a special license. He may be in a truck half way across the country. It's not easy to quit when you're 1000 miles from home.
That's what I'm trying to prevent. I would rather that people hear the bad things right now, right here. That way, they won't be as likely to quit when they're far from home.
If anyone doesn't believe what I say, you can verify the facts with a few phone calls. Hell, you may even find the DOT's own statistics right here on the web. Check and see how many drivers were given tickets because they were driving more than the allowed number of hours.
Better yet, drive over to your nearest truck stop, and ask ten drivers in the restaurant. All you need to do is ask them how much sleep they get and how many times they falsify their logs.
If you still refuse to believe anyone, then go out and get behind the wheel. That way, you can see for yourself what you are expected to do.
You can learn a lot right here on the web. Search for Keith Hamblin. He makes a site called the trucker's page. There's another site called newbie driver. It's filled with useful information for beginners.
Just don't be surprised if both of these sites tell you the exact same thing that I told you.
Trust me, I don't need to make up stories just to have something to talk about. I'm an old man, not some kid looking to brag about this or that. I got nothing to prove to anyone. Especially on a web site. So, the things I say are exactly as they happened. Believe me or not.
Like I said before, the best way to find out is to get behind the wheel and see for yourself.
#177 Consumer Comment
RESPONSE TO GREG people can dish crap out put can't take it
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, May 03, 2005
seems like people can dish crap out put can't take it when somebody gives it back to them!& another thing greg i am not blaming nobody just stating the fact that people are sick & tired of people like you len,curt,&frank putting up with their rude&abusive& put down comments toward other people because they don't agree with what they have to say.Don't respond to make us feel less,or to bitch&act as if you didn't do nothing wrong like i said in my recent post if the trucking industry will quit abusing people,who don't deserve to be abused then their wouldn't be any complaints.As for me,i will not go with schneider anymore! after how they treated me because i had no work experince i am tired of taking this SHIT!
from people i don't do anything to anybody& yet i still have to take crap just because i stick up for myself don't think that you better then everybody else cause it could come back to you.Personally i do have a driver license's & have had an clean driven record for the last 3 year's & i am a good driver personally its your attuide toward others whom you disagree with & you wont to blame other's.
#178 Consumer Comment
A commonet from the outside
AUTHOR: Greg - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, May 01, 2005
I have been unemployed for two years now and paid my bills on time because I sold everything I own and drained my life savings. My wife has been busting her ass working at a two bit company that has been stealing money from its employees since it opened its doors. I am not like the average person who is complaining on this thread, I had a great paying job in the pharmaceutical industry and my job was outsourced thanks to my Governor. I live in Michigan, where the auto industry rules and many people are ignorant that there are other industries in the state, the healthcare industry has more workers in it just in the southeast area of the state than the auto industry in the entire state. I can write a long explanation about the hiring practices of the IT industry in general, but I won't bore you. If you want to get into IT, Don't, you won't have a job in five years. For those who think their state is bad for work, come to Michigan where even if you had a masters degree, you can't get work. YES we have illegal immigrants, but they are from the Middle East (biggest Arab population outside the Middle East) and India; they are taking the high paying jobs away.
When I was in high school, a long time ago I choose a career in IT healthcare industry instead of trucking. A while after I finished school, I started at the bottom as a lab courier logging over 75K a year and never had an accident. I worked for $5 an hour getting the experience to move to dispatcher and then to manager of the department until an IT opening came along. When that company was taken over, I found other work as an alarm installer, professional baby sitter and owned an auto parts store. I finally went into consulting, which gave me a direction that led to going to work for the largest pharmaceutical company in the world and being laid off.
Well enough about my state and what happened to me.
while I was in high school I was exposed to the trucking industry, mainly through truck drivers who I met through my dad. Some of these guys were driving when FDR was in office. I did go on a few trips with them, mainly steel deliveries to plants in Indiana and food runs to KC. This gave me a taste for driving a truck but my parents talked me out of it because this was the late 70's and times were tough. My parents and these truckers taught me a very important lesson; don't mess up your driving record, keep it clean and you will always find some sort of work. I still have that clean driving record; it was easy keeping it clean.
The most important thing I learned from these old timers is that no matter what you think or want to think about trucking, it is up to you whether or not you are successful. I mean that no company owes you a living, they are in business, well, to make money, not provide you an income. Their only means of making money is to use you to move that freight from one place to another, nothing else. If they are a good company, then you will enjoy working there and most likely stay for a long time. You need to learn to play the game and that pretty much life is what you make of it.
Trucking is a hard life, not as hard as other jobs, but hard enough. I am looking for a school or even to be company trained, but I am going into the field with the idea that I know that I have to work. For some reason many people think that all you have to do is go to school and bang, you're a truck driver. All companies are strict in their requirements and training to ensure they get the best. They need to weed out the idiots and dummies to prevent problems. If you are a bad driver from the start, you will be a worst truck driver and I would expect any company would not want you.
Curt has a very important point; It ain't just sitting behind the wheel steering the truck, its paperwork, laws, compliance and having the mentality to do it. That can't be stressed enough. Being part of one of the most regulated industries in the world, pharmaceuticals, I had to deal with everything from compiling a 15000 page report to going in front of the internal regulatory auditors and the FDA. You have to want to be successful to deal with the BS that comes with the regulations. The regulation in the trucking industry is not tough if you exercise some due diligent when you come down to it.
The other stuff that Len and Curt said is correct and it is all about you and your attitude. I know from practical experience as a dispatcher, it is better to learn the system and work within it then trying to change it, which is a reflecting of your attitude. When you get a good dispatcher, tell them and their manager. Don't view it as kissing ass but rather investing in your future. I could not stand my drivers telling me no but I know that they knew if they said no to me too many times I would make their life miserable and did on a few occasions. When I got good drivers, I would treat them better them my girlfriends. They made money for the company and gave me good bonuses. But really attitude is important right from the start and this goes for anyone that can make a difference in your job.
For some reason people like Charles who need to beat up on a company because of their own failings and mistakes, I would not want them driving a truck, or for that matter near me in a car. Charles sounds like he can't take anything serious enough to do the right thing to be successful and will always blame someone else. What Charles is missing here is that he needs to take a step back, look at himself and assume some responsibility. It looks like he does need basic english lessons, but the public school systems as it is, I understand why. I had to deal with people when I was a manager and business owner and I could not stand misspelled words and bad grammar.
The other thing is that Charles, you need to look at your career goals. If trucking was the only thing you wanted to do in life, why didn't you prepare for it. This is not your daddy's era where you can go to the local terminal and find work. it takes some intelligence to get a job and keep it. I know people who had a career in mind and did some sort of research to find out about the work they were going to do for the rest of their lives. It did not matter what their situation was, they took the time to find out about it. I guess my feelings apply to others on these threads that are complaining they got screwed, just look at the opportunities and responsibilities before you commit to something that is new to you. For me it is thirty years in the making and I worked hard to keep a clean driving record and make sure I am making an informed decision.
To Helene - Austin, Texas
I am in the same boat. I am going to lose my house if I don't get a job really quick. I was even turned down by every fast food place in my area because of my age and I had only 8 interviews in my profession and no offers. One job an Indian fellow came in right after my interview and offered the company a deal for half of the salary I was asking for and they hired him on the spot. Discouraging? Yes. Preventing me from find a job? No. Hang in there.
To Paul Anaheim, CA
I see your posts all over the place and sometimes you make good points, but most of the time you are the most discouraging SOB (everyone else excuse me for that) I have yet ran across on this site. For some reason you seem to know more about the subject than anyone else and make repeating statements as gospel on many of the threads. When I first read your post about another company, it seemed to me that you got screwed by that company but after reading a similar post about another company, I realized you are like Charles and may have never worked for more than one company. Remember right now I am an outsider and my opinion is that you do the industry harm by your comments and feed a bunch of crap to anyone who will believe you.
Another thing that really bothers me is your statements about the DOT admitting to who is running legal. The DOT has the same investigation and auditing guidelines as any other regulatory agency which is set by the GAO and the oversight committees in the congress. If they admit (or a DOT employee admitted) to having only one or two companies falling into compliance with the regulations out of tens of thousands, you can count on their funding being cut by the congress and a serious investigation would take place to find out why so many are out of compliance. IT JUST DON'T HAPPEN. The DOT's job is also to enforce the regulations that they create and the laws that the congress passes, it is not there to allow companies to violate rules and put people in danger. They (meaning the DOT and FMCSA) do not allow companies to side step regulations. If for instance this was done to shorten paper work or quicken delivery time and something happens that causes deaths on the road, the liability will be on the DOT as much as it is on the driver, company and even the Broker. I am not going to debate this with you, I have been involved with policy making with the FDA and HHS with HIPPA and know first hand how it all works; they are all the same and like all the other regulatory agencies, be it DOT, FAA, FDA, CDC or HHS.
The last thing Paul; what the hell do you know about business? I mean you keep telling people not to lease a truck you'll get burned. It seems you quite don't get it about leasing and how it works. Yes you can lose your shirt if you don't take it seriously, I know of two people who grew up with my wife went through the company lease, one was successful and the other lost everything. There are too many factors involve to make a blanket statement. Also you and many others keep throwing up the amount of hours you work for the amount of money you make. Welcome to the world of professionals, truck driving is the same as IT consulting and every other profession. You don't count hours, you count the dollars left over. Everyone in business knows about taxes, permits and other necessities, which all have to be considered when making any decision about leasing a truck.
As for me.
I am looking at all the companies, schools and reading as much as I can on all the boards I can find. I already made my decision and people like Paul and Charles will not sway me. I also know the impact this will have on my family and when I made my decisions, I considered the impact of this life style change. I am no dummy and take my work seriously enough not to make rash decisions I will regret later or will hurt my family. I have set my goals and money making is a small part of that goal, with security being at the top. My wife is supportive in my decision to become a professional truck driver and realizes that this maybe the only way we will pull ourselves out of this hole we are in.
So to anyone that wants to become a trucker, please read the posts on this and other sites to gather information. Don't be fooled by people like Charles and Paul, use you head when you read these posts. There is some really great advice I found that will help me and I hope you will find it and take it seriously. If you can actually go to a truck stop and talk to real truckers to ask them their opinion. Anyone can become a truck driver, but it takes a person with a goal and a desire to do what it takes to be successful at anything they do.
#179 Consumer Comment
RESPONSE TO LEN CURT FRANK DON'T THINK YOUR PERFECT IT COULD COME BACK TO YOU DON'T THINK YOUR BETTER THEN EVERYBODY ELSE CAUSE YA'LL AIN'T!!!!!!
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 23, 2005
#180 Consumer Comment
RESPONSE TO FRANK I do have an education as a matter of fact
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 11, 2005
#181 UPDATE Employee
Schneider is a lot better than the negative hype suggests
AUTHOR: Frank - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 09, 2005
I don't know who the guy from Anahiem is driving for, but it sounds as though he getting screwed by somebody. $1200 for 5000 miles REALLY SUCKS! You're only making $.24 per mile. Unless my comments for Charles applies to you too, start looking for a better paying job.
My experience with Schneider is that they are a class organization, with a rigorous safety program (Charles, that means strict, tough, whatever). The folks who were shot down by Schneider don't sound very motivated or educated. Todays driver has to intelligent, informed and motivated. You guys (and gals) just don't sound as though you'd cut the mustard with Scheider...I see a career in fast food in your immediate futures!
#182 Consumer Suggestion
Look at the trucking industry and tell me what you see.
AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, April 05, 2005
The major OTR fleets have 100+% job turnover. That means half of the drivers quit. The company has to hire all new people. Then, the new hires all quit too. That happens every year.
What's that tell you? How good can the job be if people keep walking away from it?
Despite what the experienced veteran above may tell you, the industry does not run compliant. I can't imagine how he can drive a truck. He's obviously blind.
An owner-operator association urges its member to resist the pressures and to run complaint. Various safety groups are pushing to have black-box recorders installed on trucks to force the companies to comply with HOS regulations.
And, last, the DOT itself will tell you that only two companies run legal. Wal-mart and Fed-ex. These are the people who inspect the logs. They are in a position to know.
Look at the fatalities from drivers who fall asleep at the wheel. Clearly, these people aren't getting their rest. Why is that? Obviously, the companies are pushing them beyond what they can do.
Clearly, the fleets are not in compliance. Maybe this one driver who posted here is in compliance. But, the company drivers for the big fleets have a forced dispatch system. You drive the miles they tell you to drive.
Last, look at the pay. Average starting salary is around $35,000 a year. Great, right? Wrong! That's the pay for 80 hours a week. That's equal to two normal jobs. You make $7 to $8 an hour. A little above minimum wage.
And, all the pay is based on the miles you drive. No drive means no pay. Why do you think I ran so hard? It's the only way I could make $1000 a week. You need to do 5000 miles every week. You get paid on only about 4500 of them. That's what it takes to put $1000 in your pocket each week.
That's damn hard to do. I know. I did that with reefer loads, where you sit all morning at grocery warehouses, waiting for lumpers to count off the load. Try running reefers and doing 750 every day. In a 68 miles an hour company truck. See how long you last.
I'll be honest with you. I actually liked most of the job. But, I finally walked away because the money was never there. There are a lot of easier ways to make $1000 without risking you life or working 100 hour weeks.
There isn't a driver shortage. There just is a shortage of people willing to drive trucks for the chump change the companies are willing to pay. The people who continue to drive come in two types. There are a few drivers who haul specialized freight with their own trucks and make a good living doing it. Then, there are the general freight drivers. Those are the ones making a little above minimum wage. They spend their whole life driving and end up with little or nothing to show for it.
If you're a driver, and you like the job, then stick with it. But, if you are thinking about going into the trucking business as a driver, then find out what you're in for before you sign on. There's some good, but there's also a lot of bad. Make sure you're ready for all of it.
#183 Consumer Comment
BAD COMMENTS, RESPONSE TO LEN, CURT
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, April 04, 2005
#184 Consumer Comment
RESPONSE TO LEN & CURT ..these companies do not have a right to mistreat or abuse people
AUTHOR: Kathy - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 03, 2005
I have a right not to take any SHIT of people like you because people have been abused bye these companys & come on here to tell about it people like you & curt hate it well these companies do not have a right to mistreat or abuse people who don't deserve it.
Everything, fine till people like you & curt start bitching about it & curt you just need to get over it yourself people don't have to put up with any bullshit from you these companies do mistreat people who don't deserve this treatment if you don't want people to say any bad things about your industry then your industry needs to quit mistreating & abusing people & you are a person who can't stand it when anyone stands up for theirselfs CURT!!!!!
you are nothing but a bully, insulter also len if these trucking companys don't care about people then they will lose a whole bunch of people because people will not stand at take it why do you think their is such a shortage of truckers know because trucking companys treat people like shit&abuse them for no reason&ruin their lives & people like you who think they have everything going for them you think you can mistreat people who tell about how they were mistreated thats why this website was formed for this purpose.Also curt your industry & people like yourself make it look bad companys as no right to mistreat or abuse people & ontop of that have to listen to your ridcule about everything to me curt you the one who is a whiner&complainer,this is to you len how i write is none of your busniess if all you & curt are going to do is whine & say bad things about what people say then your industry doesn't need to mistreat people & abuse them! then nothing would be said & curt i'll say whatever i feel like & if you can take it then you can kiss off!!!!!
Final thought schneider is a piece of shit trucking company i will not bother to apply with them again after how they treated me just because i did not have a solid work history they are a shitty company to do that to me i should not have applied to begane with but i decided to try it they need to start caring for people or they would have nobody to work for them.
#185 Consumer Comment
Bad information and comments I know what I am talking about.
AUTHOR: Len - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, April 02, 2005
My first response is to Charles-31754-Ga, as follows; you are so full of self pity. No company cares about you as a person or how hurt your feelings are so get over that idea. What have you been doing all your life? You say you are 22 years old and you have NEVER held a job..Something smells bad here and you are not being honest in your statements. Another suggestion; you said you finally graduated from high school, however, your spelling and syntax in your writing tells me that you failed English.
My second response is to Paul-Anaheim, CA. Paul you do not know what you are talking about. There may be a couple of companies out there that still operate as you say but don't bet on it. The government has gotten too strict on trucking companies. The new HOS rules keep people from running such as you describe. If you run the way you describe, never taking a shower, etc, then you are a slob of a trucker and don't need to be out on the road representing this industry. Also, if you don't believe me about the rules go to a large major truck stop, say a Petro or a TA after around 9PM on any night, and you can't find any parking because they are full of drivers taking their required 10 hour break. Also, you are very stupid to even suggest that someone lie about their work experience by suggesting they get a friend to lie for them by making up a dummy company. These trucking companies are not run by idiots that will take their word for what they put on their application. All the company has to do is check their social security number, and they will, to get their work history and whether any social security taxes were ever held from their wages.
My third comment is for, Mike-Hampton, VA- Mike, get practical experience before you start thinking about becoming an owner operator and trying to build a company. It's not easy because you have to depend entirely on your own sweat and it will certainly be an uphill battle but if you persevere your efforts will pay off. Before anything, you must acquire your CDL. Without that you have no hope. Also, I would suggest that you stay away from the Small Business Administration loan program. Also, stay away and don't listen to negative failures as Paul from Anaheim. I had people telling me that I would be making a big mistake if I became an owner operator and it's the best move I have ever made. When you make your move to get your own truck, DO NOT go with a company that offers to sell you a truck and you drive for them. For the most part, you will eventually lose everything you have worked for plus you will screw up any good credit history you may have. These are crooked deals. By having your own truck if the lease does not work out you still have the truck to lease on at another company. Look into the expedited freight industry. You will never reach your goals by driving for a company that only pays 30/40 cents a mile, especially if you have to support a family out of this. It took me about five years of driving to scrimp and save $10000 to put down on my first truck and that was in 1978. Today it would require much more than that, possibly as much as $30000. GOOD LUCK!
#186 Consumer Comment
I'm sorry for what happened to you...
AUTHOR: Nina - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, April 01, 2005
I am sorry that you got terminated from Schneider. I've tried applying with these people over a year ago and the reason why they shot me down is because I didn't have a solid working record (I'm going into the Navy to work on that) :), plus I didn't know how to drive a stick shift (which I would like to learn how to). All I can say is don't give up on your dream on becoming a truck driver, there are plenty of other companies where you can go with and accomplish your goal. Don't give up and do the best you can. :)
#187 UPDATE Employee
the truth about big companies
AUTHOR: Mark - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, February 15, 2005
the best approach is to go to the big company and put up with the stuff for year if you don't have any accidents then you can move to a better more selective and higher paying position.
the other secret is don't take any shit off of them. don't run illegal and do it the safe way or not at all. no matter what you want just go ahead and demand it and add a safety reason to the arguement. if you say you will do it then complete the mission. If you say you won't do it then don't do it.never say you will do something and then back out.I been with swift for six months and in six more I may go else where if I haven't hit something. good luck be safe and get your rest.
you people are whiners and complainers. I drive for a big company, have done it for a long time. I love it, make good money good home time. maybe the reason you can't get a job is, you can't spell. you probably couldn't even spell your name right on the application. If the company really wanted you they would have kept you. For the guy who was whining about how long the day is...all i have to say is deal with it or find a new line of work! be proactive don't cry about it. Some folks think trucking is easy as pie...Wrong its hard work. It aint just sitting behind the wheel steering the truck, its paperwork, laws, compliance and having the mentality to do it. If all you have to say is bad things about my industry...then we don't need people like you! You people hung yourselves nobody did it for you. I went to training at Schneider National, i got right in, there training blows. My advice...Go find a new line of work. Or go to a community College, better training Maybe welfare? no because then i am supporting you. Cry me a river, Build a bridge and get over it. Clean up your language, you people are part of the reason trucking has a bad name, swearing only shows your true intelligence and your mentality.
#189 Consumer Suggestion
Leasing is a long trip to the poorhouse!
AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, January 06, 2005
You may get $3000 checks each week. But, by the time you pay out all the expenses, you're lucky to have $750 left for yourself. And, you owe taxes on that!
That's for working 100 or more hours each week! There's no money in the trucking industry.
The people that do it will all tell you that. The reason they stay is because they love the work. The freedom. The roads.
I loved all that too. But, money is important. Check the web for truck driving books. There are several companies that sell guides on becoming an owner/operator or owning a trucking business.
Read the books. Learn all you can about the job. That way, at least you have a fighting chance.
Search google for:
Reference Books for Professional Truckers
The Successful Truck Owner Operator
Good luck, you're gonna need it!
#190 Consumer Comment
Becoming an Independent Lease Contractor
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, January 05, 2005
Thank You,
#191 Consumer Suggestion
Response To Texas
AUTHOR: Eric - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 30, 2004
The theory behind background checks was to prevent accidents. In the past small trucking companies would hire anyone with a license. A driver that was accident prone could move from job to job and accident to accident.
Trucking companies do not care if you have not worked for the last three years. If you have not worked they need documentation to put in your file (tax returns, unemployment receipts). If you are a qualified driver you can find a job.
The federal government is a huge entity. The left does not always know what the right hand is doing. The entity that requlates the trucking industry is the FMCSA. When the FMCSA association walks into audit a trucking company, the first thing they want is the drivers file. On the drivers application, it asks for a 10 year job history. If there are any gaps in employment, they simply want documentation. A statement as to why, tax returns (if self employed, etc.). If there are any undocumented gaps on a drivers application than the company gets a fine.
Sure, trucking companies use this information as a part of their screening process. If they want to hire the best possible employee. Just like any other high paying job. Have ever been to a job interview? They ask you questions. It is not the "man" trying to keep you down. When you were a child you were taught that your actions have consequences, maybe not today. If you have a poor driving history than they may not wnat you driving their truck. If you were truly unemployed for three years, thru no fault of your own, than I guarantee you can find a job driving a truck. All you have to do is document the reason.
The trucking industry, like no other, is ALWAYS in constant demand of Qualified drivers. They have never experienced an extensive layoff, freight must move. Carriers that run all 48 states have a hard time recruiting drivers. To some it is a hard life; away from your family for weeks at a time, sleeping in a truck. If you want to do this you can, just follow the rules, the background check is not that big of a deal. Go down to your local truck stop and look around at the drivers. They all had to do it. Do they look like they passed a real rigorous screening process? They probably look just like you.
#192 Consumer Suggestion
Response To Texas
AUTHOR: Eric - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 30, 2004
The theory behind background checks was to prevent accidents. In the past small trucking companies would hire anyone with a license. A driver that was accident prone could move from job to job and accident to accident.
Trucking companies do not care if you have not worked for the last three years. If you have not worked they need documentation to put in your file (tax returns, unemployment receipts). If you are a qualified driver you can find a job.
The federal government is a huge entity. The left does not always know what the right hand is doing. The entity that requlates the trucking industry is the FMCSA. When the FMCSA association walks into audit a trucking company, the first thing they want is the drivers file. On the drivers application, it asks for a 10 year job history. If there are any gaps in employment, they simply want documentation. A statement as to why, tax returns (if self employed, etc.). If there are any undocumented gaps on a drivers application than the company gets a fine.
Sure, trucking companies use this information as a part of their screening process. If they want to hire the best possible employee. Just like any other high paying job. Have ever been to a job interview? They ask you questions. It is not the "man" trying to keep you down. When you were a child you were taught that your actions have consequences, maybe not today. If you have a poor driving history than they may not wnat you driving their truck. If you were truly unemployed for three years, thru no fault of your own, than I guarantee you can find a job driving a truck. All you have to do is document the reason.
The trucking industry, like no other, is ALWAYS in constant demand of Qualified drivers. They have never experienced an extensive layoff, freight must move. Carriers that run all 48 states have a hard time recruiting drivers. To some it is a hard life; away from your family for weeks at a time, sleeping in a truck. If you want to do this you can, just follow the rules, the background check is not that big of a deal. Go down to your local truck stop and look around at the drivers. They all had to do it. Do they look like they passed a real rigorous screening process? They probably look just like you.
#193 Consumer Suggestion
Response To Texas
AUTHOR: Eric - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 30, 2004
The theory behind background checks was to prevent accidents. In the past small trucking companies would hire anyone with a license. A driver that was accident prone could move from job to job and accident to accident.
Trucking companies do not care if you have not worked for the last three years. If you have not worked they need documentation to put in your file (tax returns, unemployment receipts). If you are a qualified driver you can find a job.
The federal government is a huge entity. The left does not always know what the right hand is doing. The entity that requlates the trucking industry is the FMCSA. When the FMCSA association walks into audit a trucking company, the first thing they want is the drivers file. On the drivers application, it asks for a 10 year job history. If there are any gaps in employment, they simply want documentation. A statement as to why, tax returns (if self employed, etc.). If there are any undocumented gaps on a drivers application than the company gets a fine.
Sure, trucking companies use this information as a part of their screening process. If they want to hire the best possible employee. Just like any other high paying job. Have ever been to a job interview? They ask you questions. It is not the "man" trying to keep you down. When you were a child you were taught that your actions have consequences, maybe not today. If you have a poor driving history than they may not wnat you driving their truck. If you were truly unemployed for three years, thru no fault of your own, than I guarantee you can find a job driving a truck. All you have to do is document the reason.
The trucking industry, like no other, is ALWAYS in constant demand of Qualified drivers. They have never experienced an extensive layoff, freight must move. Carriers that run all 48 states have a hard time recruiting drivers. To some it is a hard life; away from your family for weeks at a time, sleeping in a truck. If you want to do this you can, just follow the rules, the background check is not that big of a deal. Go down to your local truck stop and look around at the drivers. They all had to do it. Do they look like they passed a real rigorous screening process? They probably look just like you.
#194 Consumer Suggestion
Response To Texas
AUTHOR: Eric - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 30, 2004
The theory behind background checks was to prevent accidents. In the past small trucking companies would hire anyone with a license. A driver that was accident prone could move from job to job and accident to accident.
Trucking companies do not care if you have not worked for the last three years. If you have not worked they need documentation to put in your file (tax returns, unemployment receipts). If you are a qualified driver you can find a job.
The federal government is a huge entity. The left does not always know what the right hand is doing. The entity that requlates the trucking industry is the FMCSA. When the FMCSA association walks into audit a trucking company, the first thing they want is the drivers file. On the drivers application, it asks for a 10 year job history. If there are any gaps in employment, they simply want documentation. A statement as to why, tax returns (if self employed, etc.). If there are any undocumented gaps on a drivers application than the company gets a fine.
Sure, trucking companies use this information as a part of their screening process. If they want to hire the best possible employee. Just like any other high paying job. Have ever been to a job interview? They ask you questions. It is not the "man" trying to keep you down. When you were a child you were taught that your actions have consequences, maybe not today. If you have a poor driving history than they may not wnat you driving their truck. If you were truly unemployed for three years, thru no fault of your own, than I guarantee you can find a job driving a truck. All you have to do is document the reason.
The trucking industry, like no other, is ALWAYS in constant demand of Qualified drivers. They have never experienced an extensive layoff, freight must move. Carriers that run all 48 states have a hard time recruiting drivers. To some it is a hard life; away from your family for weeks at a time, sleeping in a truck. If you want to do this you can, just follow the rules, the background check is not that big of a deal. Go down to your local truck stop and look around at the drivers. They all had to do it. Do they look like they passed a real rigorous screening process? They probably look just like you.
#195 Consumer Comment
THREE YEAR WORK HISTORY WAS REQUIRED BY THE TSA
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 23, 2004
I wrote to my elected officials and told them that it was ironic that I was an American citizen with a clean driving history and clean driving record and I could not get a job because I was unemployed since 2001 BECAUSE MUCH OF THE TEXAS ECONOMY IS IN A DEPRESSION IN CASE NOBODY'S PAYING ATTENTION!
I have friends forced to go to Iraq and risk getting their heads chopped off because they couldn't get work here. They might drive over a land mine and get blown up or permanently disabled that way.
The three-year requirement was designed to keep TERRORISTS from getting a truck driver job because if you will remember, Timothy McVey and the domestic terrorists who were credited with exploding the Federal Building in Oklahoma City used a Ryder truck. Like Abduhl or Akkbar or whomsoever aren't going to say that a Terrorist money-laundering outfit with a deep cover didn't give them a job...You know their friends who own businesses will claim that they worked there IF they really wanted to. They can get past it. So can the illegal Mexican truck drivers who are unsafe and underpaid that all of the American truck companies want to hire because they will allegedly drive for four cents a mile! It is hard-working American citizens who have been out of work THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN who were kept from getting jobs with that TSA policy!It was keeping AMERICANS out of work and letting terrorists come right on in. When my elected officials realized that I had a point, they got the Transportation Security Administration to relax that requirement a bit.
Remember all of those wild rumors that terrorsts were going to hijack then blow up a semi in their next endeavors? Well, that is one of the reasons that act was thrown in the requirments for truck driving ---without a thought for the welfare of honest, hard-working yet UNEMPLOYED American who want to work and can't find it!It lookedlike a real good secure quick fix but it HURT the American TRUCKER and those who wanted to learn to be.
And the three years unbroken job history only applied to inexperienced truckers and truck driving school students. For the more experienced one, they will have to have a 10 year history with no breaks in service!
I still want to drive a truck. Someday, maybe I will. I have the basics down that I learned before everybody had to give up their State truck driving licenses and get a federal CDL.
Used to be in times when jobs were easy to come by, anybody who didn't have one was a professional bum, chronic unemployed wino who didn't want a job and wouldn't have worked if someone had come to get him and take him to the site in a limo!
Time are a little more difficult now.
I still haven't tried to go to truck driving school.
#196 Consumer Comment
THREE YEAR WORK HISTORY WAS REQUIRED BY THE TSA
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 23, 2004
I wrote to my elected officials and told them that it was ironic that I was an American citizen with a clean driving history and clean driving record and I could not get a job because I was unemployed since 2001 BECAUSE MUCH OF THE TEXAS ECONOMY IS IN A DEPRESSION IN CASE NOBODY'S PAYING ATTENTION!
I have friends forced to go to Iraq and risk getting their heads chopped off because they couldn't get work here. They might drive over a land mine and get blown up or permanently disabled that way.
The three-year requirement was designed to keep TERRORISTS from getting a truck driver job because if you will remember, Timothy McVey and the domestic terrorists who were credited with exploding the Federal Building in Oklahoma City used a Ryder truck. Like Abduhl or Akkbar or whomsoever aren't going to say that a Terrorist money-laundering outfit with a deep cover didn't give them a job...You know their friends who own businesses will claim that they worked there IF they really wanted to. They can get past it. So can the illegal Mexican truck drivers who are unsafe and underpaid that all of the American truck companies want to hire because they will allegedly drive for four cents a mile! It is hard-working American citizens who have been out of work THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN who were kept from getting jobs with that TSA policy!It was keeping AMERICANS out of work and letting terrorists come right on in. When my elected officials realized that I had a point, they got the Transportation Security Administration to relax that requirement a bit.
Remember all of those wild rumors that terrorsts were going to hijack then blow up a semi in their next endeavors? Well, that is one of the reasons that act was thrown in the requirments for truck driving ---without a thought for the welfare of honest, hard-working yet UNEMPLOYED American who want to work and can't find it!It lookedlike a real good secure quick fix but it HURT the American TRUCKER and those who wanted to learn to be.
And the three years unbroken job history only applied to inexperienced truckers and truck driving school students. For the more experienced one, they will have to have a 10 year history with no breaks in service!
I still want to drive a truck. Someday, maybe I will. I have the basics down that I learned before everybody had to give up their State truck driving licenses and get a federal CDL.
Used to be in times when jobs were easy to come by, anybody who didn't have one was a professional bum, chronic unemployed wino who didn't want a job and wouldn't have worked if someone had come to get him and take him to the site in a limo!
Time are a little more difficult now.
I still haven't tried to go to truck driving school.
#197 Consumer Comment
THREE YEAR WORK HISTORY WAS REQUIRED BY THE TSA
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 23, 2004
I wrote to my elected officials and told them that it was ironic that I was an American citizen with a clean driving history and clean driving record and I could not get a job because I was unemployed since 2001 BECAUSE MUCH OF THE TEXAS ECONOMY IS IN A DEPRESSION IN CASE NOBODY'S PAYING ATTENTION!
I have friends forced to go to Iraq and risk getting their heads chopped off because they couldn't get work here. They might drive over a land mine and get blown up or permanently disabled that way.
The three-year requirement was designed to keep TERRORISTS from getting a truck driver job because if you will remember, Timothy McVey and the domestic terrorists who were credited with exploding the Federal Building in Oklahoma City used a Ryder truck. Like Abduhl or Akkbar or whomsoever aren't going to say that a Terrorist money-laundering outfit with a deep cover didn't give them a job...You know their friends who own businesses will claim that they worked there IF they really wanted to. They can get past it. So can the illegal Mexican truck drivers who are unsafe and underpaid that all of the American truck companies want to hire because they will allegedly drive for four cents a mile! It is hard-working American citizens who have been out of work THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN who were kept from getting jobs with that TSA policy!It was keeping AMERICANS out of work and letting terrorists come right on in. When my elected officials realized that I had a point, they got the Transportation Security Administration to relax that requirement a bit.
Remember all of those wild rumors that terrorsts were going to hijack then blow up a semi in their next endeavors? Well, that is one of the reasons that act was thrown in the requirments for truck driving ---without a thought for the welfare of honest, hard-working yet UNEMPLOYED American who want to work and can't find it!It lookedlike a real good secure quick fix but it HURT the American TRUCKER and those who wanted to learn to be.
And the three years unbroken job history only applied to inexperienced truckers and truck driving school students. For the more experienced one, they will have to have a 10 year history with no breaks in service!
I still want to drive a truck. Someday, maybe I will. I have the basics down that I learned before everybody had to give up their State truck driving licenses and get a federal CDL.
Used to be in times when jobs were easy to come by, anybody who didn't have one was a professional bum, chronic unemployed wino who didn't want a job and wouldn't have worked if someone had come to get him and take him to the site in a limo!
Time are a little more difficult now.
I still haven't tried to go to truck driving school.
#198 Consumer Comment
THREE YEAR WORK HISTORY WAS REQUIRED BY THE TSA
AUTHOR: Joe - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 23, 2004
I wrote to my elected officials and told them that it was ironic that I was an American citizen with a clean driving history and clean driving record and I could not get a job because I was unemployed since 2001 BECAUSE MUCH OF THE TEXAS ECONOMY IS IN A DEPRESSION IN CASE NOBODY'S PAYING ATTENTION!
I have friends forced to go to Iraq and risk getting their heads chopped off because they couldn't get work here. They might drive over a land mine and get blown up or permanently disabled that way.
The three-year requirement was designed to keep TERRORISTS from getting a truck driver job because if you will remember, Timothy McVey and the domestic terrorists who were credited with exploding the Federal Building in Oklahoma City used a Ryder truck. Like Abduhl or Akkbar or whomsoever aren't going to say that a Terrorist money-laundering outfit with a deep cover didn't give them a job...You know their friends who own businesses will claim that they worked there IF they really wanted to. They can get past it. So can the illegal Mexican truck drivers who are unsafe and underpaid that all of the American truck companies want to hire because they will allegedly drive for four cents a mile! It is hard-working American citizens who have been out of work THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN who were kept from getting jobs with that TSA policy!It was keeping AMERICANS out of work and letting terrorists come right on in. When my elected officials realized that I had a point, they got the Transportation Security Administration to relax that requirement a bit.
Remember all of those wild rumors that terrorsts were going to hijack then blow up a semi in their next endeavors? Well, that is one of the reasons that act was thrown in the requirments for truck driving ---without a thought for the welfare of honest, hard-working yet UNEMPLOYED American who want to work and can't find it!It lookedlike a real good secure quick fix but it HURT the American TRUCKER and those who wanted to learn to be.
And the three years unbroken job history only applied to inexperienced truckers and truck driving school students. For the more experienced one, they will have to have a 10 year history with no breaks in service!
I still want to drive a truck. Someday, maybe I will. I have the basics down that I learned before everybody had to give up their State truck driving licenses and get a federal CDL.
Used to be in times when jobs were easy to come by, anybody who didn't have one was a professional bum, chronic unemployed wino who didn't want a job and wouldn't have worked if someone had come to get him and take him to the site in a limo!
Time are a little more difficult now.
I still haven't tried to go to truck driving school.
Companies in turn have begun to use it as a screening process. If you have not worked at all in THREE YEARS, or if you have had 10 jobs in THREE YEARS, then you probably will not be a successful employee. Like the gentleman said above "most people never pay back their loans". They have to be able to screen out some of the riff-raff. This is a $50,000 a year job. You do not have to be a rocket-scientist but you do have to have some common sense.
You can drive a truck for living, or you can be a teacher, or mechanic or welder but any job that requires specified training is going to cost you money and have specific requirements. Schneider does not have anything to do with this. If you fall down and hurt yourself on your first day of training, and you lie and cannot spell it is probably a good indicator that you cannot be trusted with a $130,000 truck and trailer. Out in the country alone, looking at sunsets and rolling over the top of cars. I would look for a new carrer, something safe like a restaturant or grocery store.
#200 Consumer Comment
SCHNEIDER RIPOFF TRUCKING COMPANY
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, November 16, 2004
#201 Consumer Suggestion
A Little Clarity
AUTHOR: Brian - (Canada)
SUBMITTED: Monday, November 15, 2004
About 5 years ago I bought my first truck, and that immediately changed my whole outlook on the trucking companies themselves. I now have 4 trucks of my own, with drivers in all of them. I stopped driving over a year ago to better manage my company. I'll let you in on a little secret, being a driver is alot easier, and pays ALOT more than owning the trucks!
Anyways, I'll get to my point, for those of you, Charles in particular, who blame one company for "ending" your career (which, you have never even started), you need to take a look at it from their point of view. First off, they DO NOT owe you a job, they hire people who meet their criteria, it's not their fault if you don't. Second, it's their ass on the line if anything happens while you're driving their equipment. If you have an accident, it's their insurance (Schneider, along with other major carriers, are self insured, so it's their cash), their equipment, their freight claims, and their name on the news and in the papers, not yours. And if anyone is injured, they will be dragged into court for the lawsuits in the millions of dollars, not you. And lastly, as another posted earlier, you have to be able to at least spell correctly, you are representing the company you drive for (often, you are the only representative the customer will see).
I agree that it is a very hard lifestyle (trucking is not a job, it's a lifestyle), and it's defineately not for everyone, but you can earn alot of money doing it. My drivers make $1200-$1400/week, and they're home every weekend (they're also EXPERIENCED drivers), so don't expect that kind of money the day you start driving. As for the comments about never showering, you need to take a better look around, the industry has changed alot in the past decade, chances are people are noticing you, they're just too polite to say anything. Besides, you're just adding to the bad image alot of people still have of the trucking industry. I know it's not always possible to shower every day, but once or twice a week???
It's a demanding career, both mentally and physically, but if you do it smartly and safely, it can be a very rewarding one. There is a massive driver shortage across The US and Canada, and good drivers are in huge demand. Without a University education, you'll have a hard time finding better pay (even better than most with a University ed).
Just remember, nobody OWES you a job! If that's the attitude you're presenting to employers, that's why you're still unemployed! Change your attitude and I'd bet your luck will change too!
Anyways, good luck to all of you.
Keep the rubber side down!
#202 Consumer Suggestion
Job Corps is free of charge to you. It's better than the military right now --or so it seems.
AUTHOR: Helene - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, October 11, 2004
Charles, you are still young enough to get in the Job Corps. I knew a relative who did and they trained him to be a mechanic and he hung around a little bit more and got the body shop training too. He's got his own shop now and can tell the world to go fly away. The last I heard, he was doing OK. I don't know where he is because almost everybody in my family is passed away and people just disappear but as a young man, you don't have to keep putting in for jobs where there are NO jobs. And because you are a YOUNG MAN, somebody will be willing to give you a break.
Job Corps is free of charge to you. It's better than the military right now --or so it seems.
You might also qualify for a low-income student GRANT that you don't pay back. They call it a FARFSA. I looked into it. They might pay for your truck driving class at the local junior college. You will have to say that neither one of your parents attended high school, much less college and that you come from "Other" regarding race, ethnicity, etc. I am mainly American Indian even though I have a European last name.
And I want to thank Paul for the concern.
If you know anybody who is desparate enough to relocate to AUSTIN,TX land of the celebrity endorsements --- DON'T. Unless you have a State of Texas job ( and that's not too secure, one agency laid of 4,000 employees statewide and went with subcontractors and temps) or a University of Texas job or you made your money somewhere else and have enough of it to live in the most expensive place in Texas( even worse than Dallas or Houston!) FORGET IT! Pass it on.
THERE ARE NO JOBS HERE!
This place is FULL UP with people who came here and BUSTED OUT! They live in their cars and the homeless shelters are to CAPACITY and the food kitches run out and there is NOTHING here for anybody. Even with the influx of "ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS" which has made a bad situation even worse.
There are lines out the door at the Workforce Commission here and about 100 people for every job opening. YOU CAN'T EVEN GET A DISHWASHER JOB HERE! And truck driving jobs --locals-- are paying minimum wage! They would pay lower but I don't think that the people would stand for it. Pretty soon, they just might not have the choice.
Thanks for the list of trucking companies. If they are willing to talk to me, I am willing to drive for them. I am used to high centers of gravity as I had a Chrysler mini-van and one of those Ford Explorers --BIG difference between that and the Anteater and the old KWs I got to check out when I was guarding trucking terminals but the principal is the same, turn to sharp after stopping too soon and you will be in the deep stuff.
I've got my work before me and I would rather drive a standard shift on an icey road than an automatic. And winters in this pace are VERRRRRY COLD and HUMID. Pneumonia weather!
#203 Consumer Comment
SCREW SCHNEIDER NATIONAL FOR RUINING MY CHANCE'S OF BECOMING A TRUCK DRIVER
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, October 09, 2004
I got this same nonsense about the 3 year work history when i applied for schneider's training school i did not know that you had to have a 3 year work history to apply for a traning school i gave the reason why i didn't have a job to schneider i told them that i was in highschool for the last 3 year's i had quit school well not completely left school me and my mother had some issue's with the school that i was attending so i just decided to leave that school i was moving around alot also those three year's and around my mother's work time i couldn't work.After i told schneider the rep. talked to her mananger and got back with me i was turned down the mananger told me that i needed to have at lease one year of employment without being fired they didn't consider well what if the boss has to layoff some employee's that happen's sometime's without nothing being you'er fault they have to at lease consider that employee's do lay off people from time to time that's something that you gotta worry about on the job.Well,i have been looking for a job in my town but no luck yet they all give a story that there not hiring that they have all the work they need or i don't have work experince which really suck's for me guess my change's of learning how to be a truck driver are gone schneider has ruined my chance's they also told me that my application was in very good status i have a clean driving record and no criminal record so i don't get what the problem is i guess they want me to work at some junk job that doesn't pay worth a crap for a year.It,is know october and still i haven't found no job i called around but nothing i do not know what to do and i do not have $5,000 to pay to a trucking school which i wouldn't do anyway's i'll would be ripped of there schneider has ruin my change's of becoming a truck driver you can't even get into a trucking school because you haven't worked for 3 year's this is all nonsense and "BULL CRAP" so i don't know what to do anymore.Well,good thing is that i grauated highschool and got my diploma.
#204 Consumer Comment
SCREW SCHNEIDER NATIONAL FOR RUINING MY CHANCE'S OF BECOMING A TRUCK DRIVER
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, October 09, 2004
I got this same nonsense about the 3 year work history when i applied for schneider's training school i did not know that you had to have a 3 year work history to apply for a traning school i gave the reason why i didn't have a job to schneider i told them that i was in highschool for the last 3 year's i had quit school well not completely left school me and my mother had some issue's with the school that i was attending so i just decided to leave that school i was moving around alot also those three year's and around my mother's work time i couldn't work.After i told schneider the rep. talked to her mananger and got back with me i was turned down the mananger told me that i needed to have at lease one year of employment without being fired they didn't consider well what if the boss has to layoff some employee's that happen's sometime's without nothing being you'er fault they have to at lease consider that employee's do lay off people from time to time that's something that you gotta worry about on the job.Well,i have been looking for a job in my town but no luck yet they all give a story that there not hiring that they have all the work they need or i don't have work experince which really suck's for me guess my change's of learning how to be a truck driver are gone schneider has ruined my chance's they also told me that my application was in very good status i have a clean driving record and no criminal record so i don't get what the problem is i guess they want me to work at some junk job that doesn't pay worth a crap for a year.It,is know october and still i haven't found no job i called around but nothing i do not know what to do and i do not have $5,000 to pay to a trucking school which i wouldn't do anyway's i'll would be ripped of there schneider has ruin my change's of becoming a truck driver you can't even get into a trucking school because you haven't worked for 3 year's this is all nonsense and "BULL CRAP" so i don't know what to do anymore.Well,good thing is that i grauated highschool and got my diploma.
#205 Consumer Comment
SCREW SCHNEIDER NATIONAL FOR RUINING MY CHANCE'S OF BECOMING A TRUCK DRIVER
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, October 09, 2004
I got this same nonsense about the 3 year work history when i applied for schneider's training school i did not know that you had to have a 3 year work history to apply for a traning school i gave the reason why i didn't have a job to schneider i told them that i was in highschool for the last 3 year's i had quit school well not completely left school me and my mother had some issue's with the school that i was attending so i just decided to leave that school i was moving around alot also those three year's and around my mother's work time i couldn't work.After i told schneider the rep. talked to her mananger and got back with me i was turned down the mananger told me that i needed to have at lease one year of employment without being fired they didn't consider well what if the boss has to layoff some employee's that happen's sometime's without nothing being you'er fault they have to at lease consider that employee's do lay off people from time to time that's something that you gotta worry about on the job.Well,i have been looking for a job in my town but no luck yet they all give a story that there not hiring that they have all the work they need or i don't have work experince which really suck's for me guess my change's of learning how to be a truck driver are gone schneider has ruined my chance's they also told me that my application was in very good status i have a clean driving record and no criminal record so i don't get what the problem is i guess they want me to work at some junk job that doesn't pay worth a crap for a year.It,is know october and still i haven't found no job i called around but nothing i do not know what to do and i do not have $5,000 to pay to a trucking school which i wouldn't do anyway's i'll would be ripped of there schneider has ruin my change's of becoming a truck driver you can't even get into a trucking school because you haven't worked for 3 year's this is all nonsense and "BULL CRAP" so i don't know what to do anymore.Well,good thing is that i grauated highschool and got my diploma.
#206 Consumer Comment
SCREW SCHNEIDER NATIONAL FOR RUINING MY CHANCE'S OF BECOMING A TRUCK DRIVER
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, October 09, 2004
I got this same nonsense about the 3 year work history when i applied for schneider's training school i did not know that you had to have a 3 year work history to apply for a traning school i gave the reason why i didn't have a job to schneider i told them that i was in highschool for the last 3 year's i had quit school well not completely left school me and my mother had some issue's with the school that i was attending so i just decided to leave that school i was moving around alot also those three year's and around my mother's work time i couldn't work.After i told schneider the rep. talked to her mananger and got back with me i was turned down the mananger told me that i needed to have at lease one year of employment without being fired they didn't consider well what if the boss has to layoff some employee's that happen's sometime's without nothing being you'er fault they have to at lease consider that employee's do lay off people from time to time that's something that you gotta worry about on the job.Well,i have been looking for a job in my town but no luck yet they all give a story that there not hiring that they have all the work they need or i don't have work experince which really suck's for me guess my change's of learning how to be a truck driver are gone schneider has ruined my chance's they also told me that my application was in very good status i have a clean driving record and no criminal record so i don't get what the problem is i guess they want me to work at some junk job that doesn't pay worth a crap for a year.It,is know october and still i haven't found no job i called around but nothing i do not know what to do and i do not have $5,000 to pay to a trucking school which i wouldn't do anyway's i'll would be ripped of there schneider has ruin my change's of becoming a truck driver you can't even get into a trucking school because you haven't worked for 3 year's this is all nonsense and "BULL CRAP" so i don't know what to do anymore.Well,good thing is that i grauated highschool and got my diploma.
#207 Consumer Suggestion
Helene, get a truck job before you starve!
AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 08, 2004
If you have been out of work, here's what you do.
Find a friend with a working phone. Make up a company name. United security. There, I made up one for you. Use your friends address and phone. Tell your friend to answer the phone with "united security" when they call.
Your friend can say that you worked there between 03 and 04, or what ever the dates you need. Get your stories straight in advance.
They call once, and ask a few questions. That's it. It's no big deal.
Quit screwing around with stupid WIA nonsense. You're wasting your time there.
HTTP://WWW.CDLJOBS.COM/STUDENTS.HTM
WWW.INFOPORIUM.COM/TRUCKSCHOOLS
WWW.1800CDLJOBS.COM
WWW.1800DRIVERS.COM
WWW.CDLJOBS.COM
WWW.CDLTRUCKERS.COM
WWW.CLASSADRIVERS.COM
WWW.DRIVERS4HIRE.COM
WWW.DRIVINGFORCEMAG.COM
WWW.ETRUCKERJOBSONLINE.COM
WWW.EVERYTRUCKJOB.COM
WWW.FLEETDIRECTORY.COM
WWW.HOTCDLJOBS.COM
WWW.JUSTTRUCKINGJOBS.COM
WWW.LAYOVER.COM
WWW.PROFESSIONALTRUCKER.COM
WWW.TRUCK.NET
WWW.TRUCKDRIVER.COM
WWW.TRUCKER.COM
WWW.TRUCKERS.COM
WWW.TRUCKINGJOBS.COM
Go to the top site, select student/needs training. Pick one of the companies and go. CRST hires right over the phone. Gather up yout trash and get on the Greyhound to them.
Don't worry about the stupid loan. They go through hundreds of drivers every year. Most of them never repay the loan!
Get a company, any company, to set you up with a Greyhound ticket. Get on bus and go. Do three weeks of school. Then, in the truck and start making money.
If you keep screwing around with nonsense, you're gonna starve!
#208 Consumer Suggestion
Thanks For The Concern
AUTHOR: Helene - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Friday, October 08, 2004
I attended a WIA session to find out how to get the Federal Work Investment Act grant that pays for you to get an education ASAP and TRUCK DRIVING SCHOOL. Good thing I don't have any kids. The room was full of women with kids. Little kids. Newborns.Unhappy kids old enough to get an idea of what was going on. Maybe it was dreams of forever marriages that went bad or kids born in the United States so the rest of the family could stay.Maybe they had kids because without them in Texas, you don't get any benefits.
Lots of very desparate folks are in that room. There was standing room only. Scary. Kids crying and a few of the adults looking used up and crying in there.Even some big tough-looking guys. Ex-cons were scared because if they can't get a job to pay the cost of their parole, they go back.
Somebody in there told me that George Bush was the only other President besides Herbert Hoover to have millions of American jobs LOST during his Administration. I don't care-- all I want to do is get a job preferably BEFORE the election because the hot air they are using to talk up this economy might evaporate. One of the guys in there was so hungry, he passed out. They had to call EMS to take him away.He didn't look good lying on the gurney.
I did make a follow-up appointment with a WIA caseworker.Iremembered the day I was to be there but she forgot I was coming in. It's a numbers game and there are too many numbers.
I forced to remember me and I got in to see her. The entire time, she stared at me like she really had some other place she needed to be --yesterday. Maybe she had seen too much desparation already.
She listened to my story. Didn't bother to fill out one of those manilla files to download my case. Maybe she was overbudget on manilla file folders. She finally said that I should talk to the truck driving instructor guy at the local community college. No follow-up appointment scheduled for me.
I had been in touch with a trucking outfit in Dallas, TX --Stephens Transport-- that teaches you how to drive reefer rigs in their own school. I used to guard their corporate offices a few years ago. They feed you while you're in school, I hear. I was all set to go but then they tell me that if you are a first-time driver and you have any breaks in your three-year employment history, you can't drive for them or attend their schools and I had other trucking company-run schools tell me the same thing. It allegedly has something to do with Homeland Security and the Transportation Security Agency.
Well, I went to the e-the people.com web site and I found the e-mail addresses of my federal elected officials and told them about what was going on. They gave the trucking companies hell for that stupid requirement. It makes no sense that you can't get a job or a position in a company-run truck driving school BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN UNEMPLOYED FOR TWO YEARS OUT OF THREE --and fast approaching THREE AND you are an American citizen with NO criminal history and a clean driving record!
Well, I am living proof that politicians can't make jobs because although they did raise hell on my behalf, I still have NO JOB. They did do SOMETHING though. Now, if you have a gap in your three-year employment history, you are supposed to give the trucking company FIVE letters written on letterhead stationery explaining your activities for the time that you were out of work. Confused? I was too. Still am. Nobody I contacted can explain what it means.
I am not a criminal... I have a clean driving record(except for one "no liability insurance" entry which was automatically entered when that manditory insurance law went into effect) and a clean criminal history.No kids. NO car. No electricity. No home phone but my cell phone works OK when I can find a place to charge it.If I don't find work I will lose the house and land my Dad left.
I am not sure what to do. I guess I will call the guy at the community college and see if the gap in employment history is going to keep me out of that school too.
At the rate I am going, I might have to go to Iraq as a floor sweeper and then people might see my head chopped off on El Ja-Zeera TV or the Internet. It beats staking out these upscale sidewalk bistros and grabbing the food that some anorexic rich person leaves behind, then running like hell! I don't run very well these days and don't want to slip on the ice this winter.
I was one of 300 applicants for a "junk job" yesterday. Somebody who has a computer in their house grabbed the job before it ever had the chance to make it to the newspaper.
I still want to drive. Even after I saw the photo of that van stranded on the bridge by the hurricane in Florida and the cab was GONE...I am afraid I wouldn't have made that trip. Even if he had made it across that bridge, the place where he was going to deliver might not have been there anymore. I think I would have called my dispatcher or my delivery destination to confirm that the business even still existed before I went on the bridge.
No way I would ever be mistaken for a "lot lizard." One sight of me in a micro mini and that lot would clear out for sure!I am a respectable lady and I am not into the Honkey Tonk Queen pathos or the "High Ho, it's off to 'work' I go" threads. I like military surplus because it lasts for a long time and steel-toed duty boots that look like athletic shoes. Surprise! And short hair is easier to keep clean. Just find a convenient sink and give it a hit with shampoo from a small bottle and you're good to go.Couldn't afford face paint anyway. When it gets hot, it runs down your face and stains your clothes.
Regarding customer service, all the drivers ever saw at the Albertson's Warehouse and the computer company's warehouse were the guys in receiving and the security officers like I was then. They never saw any executives in any place.
They just pulled up, confirmed their apppointments for the dock doors and that was it until we woke them up in the morning so they could unload on time.
The last thing I need is to get in debt to some rip-off driver school with a student loan I can never repay because the interest keeps rising on me, just like the "vigresh" on Mafia loans, incidentally!And if you can't repay the student loan, they will take your income tax return --IF you ever work again AND your entire social security check, I hear.
Got to do something because winter is coming.
Thanks for the ideas though. I will see what happens.
#209 Consumer Comment
From the Company Point of View
AUTHOR: Greg - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, October 07, 2004
I also drove over 1,000,000 miles of cross country work for one of the best Black & Chrome flatbed companies out there today and while I will concur somewhat with your evaluation of the trucking lifestyle, its important to ask yourselves a question...Where else can you, with your currnet employment & education background make $1,000 per week?
Now, in my job as Director of Safety and Training for a 56 truck National Fleet, here is why a few of you can't get jobs...LEARN TO WRITE AND SPELL. You must be able to write complete and coherent sentences and answer basic questions in order to get a job. I as an employer look at you as the representative of my company to my customer. You need to walk the walk, talk the talk and learn how to do it right.
#210 Consumer Suggestion
Helene, get a trucking job. It's quick money, and a roof over your head.
AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, September 15, 2004
First, find a company to train you. A trucking company, not a school. Two reasons. First, pass the school, and you got a job waiting. Second, it's faster that way. You find a trucking company by searching the web. They don't allow web site names here or else I'd just give you a name. Search for truck driving job/student. There are tons of sites.
Call the jobs, get them to send applications. Many let you apply right over the phone. You pack up your stuff and get on a bus to their terminal. There, you get a hotel. They pay bus and motel. Not food. Bring money. School is 2 to 3 weeks. You need to eat all that time. Everything else is provided. You get a permit. Then you drive. After you learn, you go take the DMV test in a school truck. After school, you go out with a trainer for 3 to 4 weeks. Pick a woman. At least you won't have to worry about sex hassles that way.
The minute you start running with a trainer, you get the training wage, about $300 a week. It's food and a little more. If you can stick out the trainer, you can run solo (by yourself) or team with another woman. I'd avoid the teams. Even another woman. Two people in a truck, both dead tired. Any little thing sets you off. Besides, the truck runs constantly team. She drives, you sleep. Screw that. Run solo.
All the fleets will try to run you to death. Do as much as you can. But, whatever you do, don't go to sleep at the wheel. It's the last thing you will ever do.
You live in truck. Engine runs all night to keep you warm. Or cool. Buy food in truck stops. Spend $100 a week. You make $700. Save $600 each week. Do this for 10 weeks and you have $6,000. That will buy you a motorhome to live in. Get a class c unit, on a van front end. About 24 feet long. Full tub, not a phone booth shower. Make sure everything works. Engine/trans is very important, so stay away from fixer-uppers with bad engines.
Once you have it, register and license plates. Keep it legal. Nobody can take it away. If you drive truck, put it in terminal parking while you're out.
Trucking isn't a good job, but it will put a roof over your head and money in your pocket fast. Just be carefull. Remember, you are running the thing full speed in the snow and rain. Plus, you're always dead tired. Easy to make a mistake that way. Trainers don't show you much. They don't care about training. They get paid for all your miles. Yes, you can make money. But, you can also die a horrible death too. If you let the truck slide off the road in the snow, it'll go down a bank and roll over. Crushed behind the wheel.
I'm a natural driver. I'm smart and I understand the vehicle and how to push it to the limits. Trucks roll over easy. Top-heavy. You watch tight turns in off-ramps, or the thing will flip on you.
I never felt the least bit of fear, but I understand the truck. Other drivers weren't so lucky. The most common way to get hurt is falling out. You miss the step and break an ankle. Happens all the time.
Us Xpress has auto-shifts. Like automatics. No shifting. Super easy. I did big miles with them. They cheat you. All of them do. But, call and straighten it out each week. Keep track of the trips you do.
You will get screwed, but you will make enough to get back on your feet real quick. Buy an RV. Park it on the street. No rent to pay. Just food and gas. Use the trucking job to get this. Save your money. Trucking for 6 months. Then, maybe go to school and try to get skill for a better job.
Don't tell truck company that you only want 6 months. Tell them permanent job, for years. They expect you to stay and drive to pay for your school training. Tons of drivers quit. They just write it off. You won't get your last check.
Don't worry about being a woman. If you drive, the company makes money on you. They don't care if you are a man or a woman. The schools pass anybody. Don't hit anything. You pass. They give the trucks to anybody. Safe. Unsafe. Doesn't matter. Nobody drives well in the beginning.
Expect to be dead tired and filthy dirty. Forget makeup. Fingernails. You look like a homeless. But, you got $5,000 in your pocket. That's what matters. Be carefull late night rest areas. Or truck stops. Stay away from truck guys. They just want ass. Some get disease from commercial(prostitutes). Besides, you'll be too tired all the time. As a woman, it helps to be filthy and dirty. Nobody will want to rape you. Too dirty. Don't comb hair. Same filthy clothes. When you look like that, nobody will bother you. You won't get robbed either. You don't look like you have a dime to your name.
Get in, get your money, and get back on your feet. Quit after you have an RV and $5,000. Find a better job. Move here to Los Angeles if you can't find work there. An RV lets you go where the jobs are. Good luck Helene. Check for the companies that hire new drivers. Post back here if you have any problems. I'll check back. Use the local library if you're homeless. Library computers. They have internet.
#211 Consumer Comment
They have so many ways of cheating you, it is unbelievable!
AUTHOR: Helene - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 14, 2004
I got sick and tired of being a subcontractor from private security companies. They cheat you too. They have so many ways of cheating you, it is unbelievable!
I used to be a security officer at a trucking terminal. Several of them in fact and I used to wish I was in a big rig and one of the drivers let me try out his nine-speed ANTEATER in the yard. Since I have been driving a standard shift since I was a kid this was some fun to me. I wished like anything I got to go somewhere because I was always left behind signing the guys in and out.
When I was a security patrol driver, I would put 603 miles EVERY NIGHT on my little pickup. The private security company kept stacking more and more work on me, more places to check, in efforts to get me to quit but I checked them all.
I did this for two years! Finally, a guy from another security company managed to infiltrate the company from within and managed to take all of the accounts for the security company he really worked for. NOW I AM out of work!
And so on and so on and so on and so on.
I got FED up so I checked into going to a truck driving school. I was so desparate to get OUT of being a security services subcontractor, I didn't care what I signed as long as I got OUTTA there.
The school may still be in business in Dallas/Ft. Worth. I am not going to give their name anyway and it woudln't matter because I am sure that there are a lot of other sleazy operations willing to take your money and student loan that you will sign yourself into everlasting payments... they keep raising the interest on you.
If you don't pay, they will take your income tax refunds and social security checks away from you.
Yep, I was that desparate.
To make matters worse, I was a woman but I had to earn a living too. In those days, women just did NOT go into truckdriving. It was OK to marry one who did and be a codriver but to set out on your own was like asking for a trip to hell and that's exactly what you would get OK.
Well, we were just about ready to go to the part where you get to drive and then the State trooper checks you out to see if you qualify for your license or not... I heard the instructor tell another male student that it was too danme bad but none of the women in here are going to be working because nobody is going to hire them. This was back in 1988 or so, I can't remember. Well, I hadn't signed my student loan papers yet so I called the place that was supposed to be making these student loans and told them to cancel mine, that I woudln't be able to pay it back and then I just left... I had a Class A learning permit to drive a semi BUT the new CDL requirment came into effect a few months later making everything those guys learned obsolete.By the Grace of G*d I was not ripped off. Some of the guys became bus drivers for Grayhound and others joined Teamsters and drove on the East Coast but I remained a security officer standing outside guarding a cold, busy parking lot at Christmas with no money to buy presents...
Right now, I am unemployed. I have to eat a soup kitchens. I have slept as bus stops and I have a few restrooms where I can go and wash up and I make the circuit. They have washing machines at the homeless facility.
One thing about driving a truck, I would have a roof over my head while I was drivng. I would get to see places I have never seen before, I don't care if it is just space around the eternal white line. I would be able to eat something and I could wear something besides these lousy things rich people throw away for people like me. I would be relatively cool in the summer and warm in the winter --at least, it would be better than standing around on the street and keep applying for jobs which no longer exist.
Many of the high-tech places I guarded have been closed up, bankrupted, or gone OVERSEAS. They can hire eight gurkas for what they could pay me even at minimum wage to guard the facilities there. Many of the security companies where I used to work have been bought up by overseas corporations and they aren't hiring right now because there are no contracts for them. Nobody can afford security anymore.At this rate, there will be nothing left to guard.
It sure looks good right now to me.
You all make a convincing argument against going with Schneider,Swift or the OTHER Big Guys. But where DO I go for a Job in the meantime? I have a chance to go to truckdriving school now given by a junior college.
IF I go, where should I go to work when I get out??????.
#212 Consumer Suggestion
Want a trucking job? Make sure you know what you're getting into.
AUTHOR: Paul - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, September 11, 2004
Trucking is damn hard. Oh, it's real easy to sit and steer the truck. That's not hard at all. The hard part is doing it all day, all night and late into the early hours of the morning. Your day goes like this. Wake up at 7:00 AM. Get the truck in line to deliver your load. Open the doors, back up to the dock, take in your papers. Try to go back to sleep for an hour while they unload. There is a fork-lift driving in and out of the trailer. It shakes the whole truck. But, you're so tired it won't matter. By, 9:00 your truck is empty. You get your next load over the truck computer. You drive 100 miles to go get it. Same thing again. Open doors, back up. Sleep while they load you. By now it's 1:00 in the afternoon. The load delivers at 7:00 AM the next morning. You need to stop and get fuel, about 30 minutes.
You need to get food where you get fuel. Then you need to drive 550 miles to your next delivery. If you start at 1:00 in the afternoon, you won't get there until 1:00 AM in the morning. You have to be up at 7:00 AM to deliver this load. You get 6 hours of sleep. Tomorrow you start all over again. Up at 7:00. Empty trailer.
Pick up next load. Drive all day and night. Day in and day out. Seven days a week. No day off. Day in and day out. You stay in the truck for 3-4 weeks. Then, you go home for two days. That's it. Somedays, you are so tired, you don't care anymore. Let the thing crash and burn. But, if you doze off for even 10 seconds, you will probably get killed. And you will kill an innocent person in a car who did absolutely nothing wrong at all. You see the trucks where the driver went to sleep. The tractor is crushed. The sleeper is crushed. The trailer is split open. The load is spread all over the shoulder. You can tell by looking that nobody made it out alive.
Showers? They're free, when you get fuel. But, it don't matter. You are so damned tired, you couldn't care whether or not you shower. Once, maybe twice a week. Each morning, I dragged myself out of bed, and put on the same filthy rags from the week before. Then, I stumbled into the receiver and handed them the bills. You eat all your food to go, the buffets. From Petro. Big steaks, fried chicken. Food is great. In the morning, you eat whatever is left over from the previous day. You can't eat it all. Too much food.
Dead tired, filthy dirty. Not that it matters. 75% of the other drivers are the same way. Nobody says anything to you. You drink a lot of coffee trying to stay alert. Every week, you get a paycheck. I usually ran 3000 to 4000 miles. I got $800 to $1000 gross. Sometimes as much as $1200. One week I ran 6879 paid miles. Pay was $1700. US Xpress. Idiot Xpress. Lunatic Xpress. You get about $600-$800 after taxes are taken out. But, you are working 100 hours a week or more. That's two and a half jobs. That's why you get paid all that money. It's for 2 1/2 times as much work.
The good part is that the money builds up fast. You get one buffet each day. To go. It lasts all day. Big coffee refill. Half-gallon cup. I spent $10-$12 a day total. Eat, sleep and drive. Piss in a soda bottle, in the truck. If I really have a lot of miles to go and I'm running late, I piss while I'm driving. No time to stop.
You hold the truck at top speed all day. Maybe 68 MPH. It's governed, or it would do 100. You set the cruise. You never back off unless you absolutely have no other choice. Rain, fog, light snow. Doesn't matter. Top speed. Just steer it through. The sooner you get to the next receiver, the sooner you can go to sleep. That's all you think about. You are so tired. But, you know that you have to force yourself to stay alert. One mistake, and you and a lot of innocent people die a horrible death. Crushed to death.
You get real good at it. You don't even think about shifting, or turning. It's automatic.
The fatigue will break you. I don't care who you are. You need 8 hours. You get 5 to 6. Then, an hour nap or so.
Trucking is damn hard. Don't let anyone fool you. Why do you think so many drivers quit? I loved to drive. I loved my little truck. There were some good days. On a three day run, you sleep until you wake up normally. You got the open road, the sunsets. Some nights, I'm running the 80 with the full moon in the sky. You see lakes. Rivers. Fields as far as the eye can see. I loved my little truck. I had a little toy Century at most companies. It's a real little truck. Super short, like a mini-van. Detroit 60, or cummins n14. 430 to 500's. Ten speed, roadranger or rockwell. Buttery smooth shifting. Skylight. Full stand-up condo. I got really good with it, too. Hauled millions of dollars every month. Reefer, some dry vans, too. With flats, you tie and tarp the load. More work.
The companies are the one's that always push you. If you could get more sleep, this would be a great job. But, you can't. You die 10 to 15 years early because of the lack of sleep.
The companies will cheat you. They lie to you. They don't pay right. You have to call up every week and fight to get what they owe you. Same thing every week.
You will really have to love driving. It's all you do. Eventually the fatigue will break you. You get so tired you don't care anymore. Go see for yourself. Don't believe me. Learn the hard way. You'll see.
#213 Consumer Comment
SCHNEIDER RIPOFF TRUCKING SCHOOL SORRY I EVEN CONSIDERED TRUCK DRIVING
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, September 07, 2004
i haven't ever been introuble with the law so my background is clean i just haven't ever had a job in the past.
I,have got over the hurt of not being accepted when i wanted to start driving a truck if schneider made such a fuss about me not never having a job how will other trucking company's except me why bother wasting money on a trucking driving school if a trucking company ain't going to except you for that reason.
#214 Consumer Suggestion
There are other training schools
AUTHOR: Bernadette - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, August 31, 2004
sorry, allowing you to give a competitors name would instigate others to just file against their competition, to only come back later to suggest their company your comments on this policy are welcome! CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either the name of another business, a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.
Dont't let one company stop you from acheiving your dream. Someone will take you on. Just Don't ever let anyone falsify an application. THat was your fault also. You should have told her that you wanted that in your file. If nothing else if you still want to go with schnieder fax a copy of your indiana mvr. That is what they go by. Regardless don't let them make you give up your dream... Look on the net and you will find companies who will train you.
#215 Consumer Comment
I'AM SORRY I EVEN CONSIDERED SCHNEIDER'S DRIVING SCHOOL SCHNEIDER HAS RUTHLESS PEOPLE
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, August 16, 2004
Know, what do i do i can't afford no $5000 to pay to a trucking school this sucks all my opps and dreams of driving a truck are gone ever sense i was a kid i wanted to drive a truck it has always been a dream of mine know schneider has taken that away from me because i can't get me a job i was so hurt very hurt but after hearing some stories about schneider i'am glad i didn't sign a contract with them.
Know, that i have to take schneider of my list know how to i train to be a truck driver sense they runined it for me all of these trucking companys are ruthless people i don't care about schneider their other ways to get into the trucking industry but i'am having a hard time finding one after how schneider abused me turning me down i have lost all my confindence.
#216 UPDATE Employee
Protect yourself... I always include a "Good Faith" Statement that I have typed up myself
AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, August 14, 2004
I always include a "Good Faith" Statement that I have typed up myself and will turn it in with any applications I complete as well. It goes like this:
The information provided was provided in good faith, and should be considered to be the most accurate I can recall at this time. Any discrepencies found in the information provided is not an attempt to provide false information or mis-lead in any way, as it is difficult to remember all experiences, times and dates, and people I've met, throughout a lifetime.
Thank you for your understanding.
#217 Consumer Comment
THE HELL WITH SCHNEIDER NATIONAL FOR RUINING MY CHANCES OF BECOMING A TRUCK DRIVER SORRY I EVEN CONSIDER TRUCK DRIVING
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, August 14, 2004
i couldn't help not having a job i graduated late they runied any chance of becoming a truck driver its been 8 months sense they turned me down back in dec still no job everybody gives me the excuse their not hiring they have put me in a very diffcult place they turned me down once what makes me think that they wont turn me down again even though i will get one year work experience they think they can treat people however they feel like schneider has just over looked my feelings they don't know how hard it has been on me trying to find a job even a small job mabye i shouldn't even learn how to drive a truck with all the horror stories i heard of how they treat people they fire more then they hire take my uncle for example he worked for this one trucking company BENNY WHITEHEAD INC OF Eufuala ALABAMA in early feb of last year he only worked for them like 3 months he had like a little fender bender the people were he was unloading told a lie about him to his boss a couple of days later he fired him he wouldn't give him his last pay check benny paul whitehead he forced him to sign a form in case of an accident the company is entilted to your last pay check no matter how hard you worked for it you will not get paid if i fire you over the accident in others wors they steal their drivers paychecks if they have one little accident and don't pay them for the work they had did after how schnieder treated me i don't care to be a truck driver anymore they took all the excitment out of me besides who wonts to get fired for no reason which is what alot of these trucking companys do they fire them more then they hire them they deserve not to have good decent drivers if all their going to do is treat them like crap mabye schnider has saved me from alot of pain and suffering after hearing all horror stories soon instead of 500,000 loseing drivers it will go up to 1 million of shortage of drivers if they keep this crap up these trucking companys deserve it! soon you will not see one truck on the rode because all the drivers have quit i wouldn't blame them working your tall off for these donkeys like the one company my uncle who wouldn't let them have his last weeks pay before they fired him for a little fender bender then where would the nation be without trucks hauling goods for people these trucking companys better get in shape and start treating drivers right who knows one day they all will go on strike cause drivers are sick of being on the rode all the time and being abused and mistreated bye their own company they work for after how schneider treated me i will not even think about going to their driving school i'll keep my $100 in my pocket besides give it to a bunch of rip off people like them who just over looked my feelings they told me is that fair in a real smart mouth hey if you knew that ya'll weren't going to except me why would you bother to call me and waste my time if your just going to get ugly with me for me wasting your time their needs to be a class action law suit agaisnt these trucking companys and schnieder needs to be at the top of the lists i really don't care how mad they get when they read this i'am just tired of being treating like this i don't deserve this kind of abuse because i never had a job before i told them the reason but i guess i wasn't just good enough for them.
#218 Consumer Comment
JB Hunt does not train.
AUTHOR: Dave - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, June 13, 2004
As of this writing JB Hunt does not operate a driver training school and has not for a several years.
#219 Consumer Comment
GOT TURNED DOWN BY SCHNEIDER FOR NO WORK EXPERIENCE
AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, June 12, 2004
#220 Consumer Comment
you didnt do nonthing wrong
AUTHOR: Priscilla - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 26, 2004
#221 UPDATE EX-employee responds
Lie on an application?
AUTHOR: Tiny - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, May 22, 2004
And on a side note if your going to become a truck driver understand this "they didn't clean there yard" thing is minor wait til your up to your ankles in a customers muddy yard. It's impossible to keep a yard clean that 100's of trucks/trailers tear up day in and day out.
#222 Consumer Suggestion
Avoid J.B. hunt and swift,too
AUTHOR: J - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, May 09, 2004
Avoid J.B hunt and swift at all costs,too. And if
you are an owner-operator like me, avoid Landstar
at all costs too. And every other major trucking
company with more than 2,000 trucks.

