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  • Submitted: Fri, September 05, 2003
  • Updated: Tue, July 15, 2008

  • Reported By:Fond du lac Wisconsin
Schneider National
Schneider National, Green Bay WI Green Bay, Wisconsin U.S.A.

Schneider National Extreme wrong doings toward my wife & I who were hired as a team Green Bay Wisconsin

*UPDATE Employee: I'm Leased there they will not tolerate illegale logging

*UPDATE Employee: I'm Leased there they will not tolerate illegale logging

*UPDATE Employee: I'm Leased there they will not tolerate illegale logging

*Consumer Comment: Like Hell they don't make you go over your 14 hours!

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: My Mistake

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: My Mistake

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: My Mistake

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: My Mistake

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Tiny, Charles might be confused

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Under the NEW DOT laws you have 14 hours to operate you Vehicle from the minute you pull out

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: best drivers are logging illegal

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last october of 2002 my wife and I were referred by 2 friends of ours who have been working at schneider national otr as a husband wife team for over 16 years. our kids are grown and we've always though how neat schneider would be to work for.

we submitted our applications, and were invited to participate in schneiders 11 day (no experience needed program). I have a disability that was mandatory to list before we even started. All went well. The last day of september 2002 they told us to check into the best western in greenbay. we were told we would be with a small group of people in this training group. we got to green bay on a sunday night, so we could be refreshed for the next morning. at 5 am we were waken and told the scneider busses would be here in an an hour.

as we approuched the lobby to meet this small group of people, we met 99 other people waiting for the same busses. i didn't know how this was going to happen. we started feeling uncomfotable. i don't know how many busses pulled up but they seemed to fit us like cattle. monday was basically class room, with intro to the truck late in the day. not too bad. it was 6 or 7 at night when we got out. we were told to go back to the hotel and study diligently, and be up at 4 am, because we had to be at the training center by 6 am.

stuffed again we got to the training center, and sat around for 45 minutes in the cafeteria. hard bagels, warm oj, and if there was any milk left was your continential breakfast. things didn't go that well the next day because mr. mike lancolmn our instructor was getting upset that we we're not picking things up as fast as everyone else. because we were so slow and making mistakes on our logs, he'd pull them away from us and do them himself. we didn't really get enough driving time when were out with him, because he spent more time, stopping off at convience stores, and bringing us to restaurants to flirt with the girls. i don't mind, it breaks the montony, but when he reports my wife and i as too slow, it's a little aggravating.

we went back to the hotel that night, and the the best western had moved our room, telling us they gave us the wrong room, and that russian swimmers needed to have this area. then we got pissed off. we checked our cloths and a black shirt, a suede jacket, and a $100 sweater were missing that were in the closet in our original room. we raised hell. threaten to call the corporate, but nobody blinked an eye.

we couldn't wastse our time arguing about this stuff because we had a truck driving program to salvage. my wife and i showed up the next day. our instructor caught us as we entered the training center, and said "somebody wants to talk to you". now what? we met with a paul miller who identified himself as the supervisor of the training center. we all entered a room, and he had a clip board with papers on it which i suppose was our evaluation. "don't look like you guys are doing to good. you've alreadt spent $1700 of our money and your welcome to stay the entire 11 days, but you'll be in debt $7000, or $8000 thousand if the company refuses you. it's up to you. why dont you go back to the hotel and think about it, and call me tonight and let me know"

Jackie & I thought this was a bad dream. as we started to leave, he turned us around and said "i like you two, why don't you go down and register with fox valley technical college truck drivers training program, get some experience and your cdl and come back and see me" the next morning we left the hotel.

it was now the middle of october 2002. from that day we saved up over $5000, had money in the bank to live on for 10 weeks of the program, and enrolled june 2nd of 2003. we graduated august 6th, of 2003. through that whole time schneider somehow found out that we had started school. the first or second week of training at fox valley, they called my daughter at home, called us on our cell phone at school, asking us when we were going to done. this went on for most of the ten week training until we got a little annoyed and said, "we will let you know when we are through" the recruiter took that as an insult, and said i was very brash.

we didn't hear from them again until a couple of days before we graduated staing "i guess your no longer interested in the job? i thought i was either on pluto or the twighlight zone. the communication at that company is beyond my comphrehension. we did have other companies who were much interested in having us come aboard because they needed couple badly. for some crazy reason we heard schenider national was the best, and wanted to stick with them.

ok. now we graduated. schneider sent us some papers to give to our doctors, the same ones they already had, but needed to be updated. keep in mind thay knew i had a disability, and cleared it last year with the dot doctor and my own doctor that it would not effect in anyway way my driving ability. i had a flawless record. they told my wife and i they had to go through the same routine again about calling us at home and going through the famous question and anwser survey. we said no problem. they said, "then we'll schedule you guys for the sept 8th, class (2003). now before they called, i twice faxed a letter to a joanne and a michelle, letting them know my disability had not change. i have the copies, and reciepts of the faxes days before my telephone interview.

about a week before the end of august, i get a call from the dot nurse name cindy from the medical department at schneider national. she said "chris" i said this is him. she said said "i'm sorry, i had to close your application, because there was a decrepancy between the way you anwsered one of the questions, compaired to what your doctor wrote it, so thanks for applying and have luck in finding a job." i said " what did i anwser wrong? she said, "you were asked if you had a disability, and you said "no" i said i would never say that!, everybody up there knows i have a disability. either you got it wrong, or the girl who called here took what i said wrong, if she asked that at all.

Now the office girls knew i sent those faxes days before explaining my disabilities, but no one would listen. the dot nurse cindy said "well you maybe right, but thats the way it shows, and i can't change it, i'm sorry.

my wife then got on and gave them hell, saying your just discriminating. the dot nurse than got her supervisor to call back, my wife anwsered and she would not talk to her , she wanted me. i got on and the supervisor said, " i don't care what you say, i'm sticking to this, and no one is changing my mind, not even you. i get 200 guys a day like you giving me the same story" well , i got the address to their legal dept, plus i got my 2 doctors to call them while i sat in their office, trying to find out what went on, and they didn't get anywhere. but as soon as things settle down, and i get on with a good company, i'll see what avenues are available.

i guess your family had to work there for generations, to be accepted. either that or your uncle is george bush. what a conspiracy.

Cody
Wisconsin
U.S.A.


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#1 UPDATE Employee

I'm Leased there they will not tolerate illegale logging

AUTHOR: Annette - (U.S.A.)

I am an o/o for Ic choice fleet and I will tell you this trying logging illegale and they will bust you for it. They have a system in place when you are over your 14 that qualcom will starting telling you to shut down I know from personal experince. Dispatch will question u in the A.M about it. Do it to many time and your fired. I may not agree with everything that Schneider does but, I read som of the things that are on here and wonder how long it take for people to set around and think this kind of stuff up. And then I remeber Im talking about drivers
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#2 UPDATE Employee

I'm Leased there they will not tolerate illegale logging

AUTHOR: Annette - (U.S.A.)

I am an o/o for Ic choice fleet and I will tell you this trying logging illegale and they will bust you for it. They have a system in place when you are over your 14 that qualcom will starting telling you to shut down I know from personal experince. Dispatch will question u in the A.M about it. Do it to many time and your fired. I may not agree with everything that Schneider does but, I read som of the things that are on here and wonder how long it take for people to set around and think this kind of stuff up. And then I remeber Im talking about drivers
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#3 UPDATE Employee

I'm Leased there they will not tolerate illegale logging

AUTHOR: Annette - (U.S.A.)

I am an o/o for Ic choice fleet and I will tell you this trying logging illegale and they will bust you for it. They have a system in place when you are over your 14 that qualcom will starting telling you to shut down I know from personal experince. Dispatch will question u in the A.M about it. Do it to many time and your fired. I may not agree with everything that Schneider does but, I read som of the things that are on here and wonder how long it take for people to set around and think this kind of stuff up. And then I remeber Im talking about drivers
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#4 Consumer Comment

Like Hell they don't make you go over your 14 hours!

AUTHOR: Shutupjoe - (U.S.A.)

I don't know if it is the same with every DC. My husband was sent to PA because Schneider is opening an account there. They told him it was MANDATORY for two weeks. Well he took a load to NY and was headed back. He stopped at his 14th hour and they sent him a message over the COM asking why he stopped. He told them his time was up. THey told him to keep driving because he was only an hour away from his second stop. He would have been doing it totally illegal. So he told them NO!. PA got mad that he wouldn't listen to him and made his DC recall him.
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#5 UPDATE EX-employee responds

My Mistake

AUTHOR: Kenneth - (U.S.A.)

I meant to say line 4, it was real late when I posted.
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#6 UPDATE EX-employee responds

My Mistake

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I meant to say line 4, it was real late when I posted.
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#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds

My Mistake

AUTHOR: Kenneth - (U.S.A.)

I meant to say line 4, it was real late when I posted.
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My Mistake

AUTHOR: Kenneth - (U.S.A.)

I meant to say line 4, it was real late when I posted.
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#9 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Tiny, Charles might be confused

AUTHOR: Kenneth - (U.S.A.)

I worked for SNI for about 2 years. I attended their training and spent 2 weeks on the road with a trainer. During training we were never told, instructed, shown or policy that drivers do not work past the 14hr mark. by any other means made to drive/log illegaly.

It is legal to work line 3 past your 14hr has ended as long as you don't drive until your next break is up, however it is SNI's

Now with that said, in the interest of making a decent living, I drove like a mad man and figured out every trick to "beating the system"

Case in point that SNI does not advocate illegal driving/logging. I picked up a load in western Georgia and delivered it to Northern Virginia, I beleive. Well it was about 900 miles+/- and i picked it up at about 0300 and delivered about 2200 that same day. Well I got busted and forced to do log training again.

So no, they do not force you to do anything illegal. You just got confused.
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#10 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Under the NEW DOT laws you have 14 hours to operate you Vehicle from the minute you pull out

AUTHOR: Tiny - (U.S.A.)

HOW TO LOG!!! my god no wonder you don't work @ Schneider anymore! When your @ a customer what the heck would you log it as if you didn't log it as OFF DUTY/ NOT DRIVING? HELLO? thats not illegal. Under the NEW DOT laws you have 14 hours to operate you Vehicle from the minute you pull out of the gate etc. 11 hrs to drive and you can work beyond your hrs as LONG as you DO NOT DRIVE.. LEARN HOW TO LOG and then B@@TCH ....
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#11 UPDATE EX-employee responds

best drivers are logging illegal

AUTHOR: Charles - (U.S.A.)

I am a ex employee of schneider and they are a piece of shit. Most of the their best drivers are logging illegal. This is how they teach us to do this. When we are hand unloading and it takes 3 or 4 hours they will put 3 hours down as OFF DUTY and put 1 hours on ON DUTY (Not Driving). No one at Schneider checks it and Neither does DOT. I hope that Schneider gets whats coming to them.

Schneider has been doing this since they open. They teach us that in logging class. The big boss. DON TIM BRIAN MARK, Green Bay OC.

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