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  • Submitted: Thu, February 02, 2006
  • Updated: Tue, August 06, 2013

  • Reported By:Sacramento California
Scott Juceam / Roni Deutch Roni Lynn Deutch
Watt Avenue Sacramento, California United States of America

Scott Juceam threatening phone call / Roni Deutch Roni Lynn Deutch tax attorney, HELP! being harassed and sued frivolous law suit Sacramento California *UPDATE .. Threatening phone calls from Ronis Half-brother and executive employee made to ED Magedson, Founder of Rip-off Report. *UPDATE.. Roni Lynn Deutch sued by California State Attorney General for $34 million. Attorney General Jerry Brown says Deutchs $25 million-a-year empire is essentially a fraud.

*Consumer Comment: Roni Lynn Deutch "The Tax Lady"

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: The Audio threat is Scott Juceam trying to do one of Russel's Voices

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: I am a former employee of this Company and the voice recorded is that of Scott Juceam.

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: The voice in question. Scott Juceam

*Author of original report: Recorded voice threats, can you identify who this is? Investigation: If you received calls from this same voice, please contact us.

*Author of original report: Recorded voice threats, can you identify who this is? Investigation: If you received calls from this same voice, please contact us.

*Author of original report: Recorded voice threats, can you identify who this is? Investigation: If you received calls from this same voice, please contact us.

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*UPDATE: August 23, 2010 .. Roni Lynn Deutch sued by California State Attorney General for $34 million. Attorney General Jerry Brown says Deutchs $25 million-a-year empire is essentially a fraud, with clients paying thousands in fees but getting little or no legal assistance in return ..as it was reported in the Sacramento Bee newspaper and online. Read the entire story. http://www.sacbee.com/2010/08/23/2977461/well-known-tax-lady-ronni-deutch.html

Also.. read the first UPDATE to this Report below .. A THREATENING PHONE CALL TO RIP-OFF REPORT / ED MAGEDSON FROM RONIs HALF BROTHER and executive employee at the company.. ===================================================== The following report is a sincere effort for us to find legal representation and more witnesses to help us with a lawsuit that was filed against us by the law offices of Roni Lynn Deutch. [continued below]....

..... The fact that such an investigation is in progress should not in itself cast any reflection upon the integrity or reputation of the officers or other individuals of the law offices of Roni Lynn Deutch or Roni Lynn Deutch. This inquiry is for the sole purpose of ascertaining the facts about individual attorney-client relationships and pertinent employee or ex-employee experiences in general, to assist us in our investigation and the law suit filed against us by Roni Lynn Deutch.

To anyone who can give their advice or comments;

I posted this report several years ago about Roni Lynn Deutch www.ripoffreport.com/lawyers/roni-lynn-deutch-tax/roni-lynn-deutch-tax-law-offic-cb3g5.htm

Roni Lynn Deutch has been suing me for a couple of years now claiming defamation, invasion of privacy, breech of contract, misappropriation of trade secrets, interference with prospective economic advantage and for preliminary and permanent injunctions.

I did sign an employee agreement while I worked there but it is very vague and does not tell me what is confidential or proprietary and what is not. I can post that too if needed. Since this is a Lawsuit filed in California it is public information.

This is the lawsuit filed against us by attorney Roni Lynn Deutch

In the suit she is claiming I/we are several different people making posts. The fact is, I submitted only the one report to this site which was nothing but the truth. If they can show me and prove to me what is not the truth, I would be happy to recant what I said.

A manager of her firm posted a very threatening message to us on this site, read this link

I have the actual page. It was created by William Juceam scottj@settletax.com IP address 66.237.49.90

Settletax.com is a Roni Lynn Deutch website. I also have a copy of a bogus attempt at a restraining order that was denied by the judge, filed against my brother Troy by the same representative of her firm.

There are also many threatening letters written to the EDitor of this website; we believe it is the same person because the hand writing matches with the restraining order and posted the report against us on this site. Please compare the handwriting between the notes on the lined paper and the restraining order and comment if it looks to you the same person penned both.

Scary that a big law firm threatens people like this with lawsuits. Could these letters have something to do with this law office of Roni Lynn Deutch?

Click here to see the handwriting on the threats that came in the mail to the Founder of this website

This is the restraining order, does this handwriting look familiar to anyone?

Roni Lynn Deutch has more money than most of us and I don't have the money to pay for representation, so I have to do this case on my own. Foolish I know but who has $50,000 to defend themselves from a rich person that sues people just to shut them up for telling the truth? Maybe we should start a fund and people can donate to it for legal fees. It would bring a lot of good to many. John Grisham, do you want to talk?

Please read my posting and the lawsuit she filed against us. What is not true about what I posted? If something I said is not correct, I will retract what I have stated. Roni Lynn Deutch is welcome to tell me what is incorrect in my Report. This is the lawsuit filed against us by attorney Roni Lynn Deutch

Now, why I posted the report.

Both my brother and I worked at Roni Lynn Deutch law firm. I was in sales and my brother Troy was a collector. I quit because I stopped believing in what I was selling. Troy had to stay working there even though he knew what the truth was, the money was good and he had a new baby to support. He was not only getting paid a few thousand dollars a month on his paycheck, he was also getting paid $2,000.00 to $3000.00 a month unreported cash from the firm for collecting over the monthly goal or getting X amount of people to pay the fees in full. Troy continued to work there for several months after I quit while he was going through a nasty divorce.

Troy did not disclose the cash he was getting from the firm on his divorce paperwork per the firms instruction. Troy's estranged wife questioned Troy as to why the money was not disclosed and told him that she was going to bring it to the attention of her lawyer. The following day, Troy told the firm the situation and they said not to worry, they would handle it. He was fired 2 days later; they claimed his divorce was interfering with his job performance. Pretty convenient huh?

My brother came home and told me what had happened (he was staying with me at the time). Troy recieved several calls from employees who saw him leave the building after being fired, telling him how they couldn't believe what had happened and then started filling our ears with some of the info I posted. It was like a big smoke screen lifted from in front of me, everything I thought but couldn't piece together made sense and I had to get it off my chest. After Troy went to bed, I drank some wine, I logged on to ripoffreport.com and all my frustrations from my experience at the firm came out. That is how my whole mess began.

HELP! If you are a legal professional and can give advice on what steps to take, please contact me through this website. We have a court date in May 2006 and are gathering as much evidence as we can to defend ourselves from this thorn in the side of us and many others.

If you are an existing employee or ex-employee or a client who will document their experience, please contact us through this website. They will forward your info to us.

Roni Lynn Deutch has also been sued by an attorney in New York named Randall Newman and settled out of court for an undisclosed amount of money, and Roni Lynn Deutch is now being sued by the New York city Department of Consumer Affairs, and there is also a preliminary injunction stopping Roni Lynn Deutch from running her commercials in New York. Roni Deutch voluntarily pulled the commercials before the injunction was heard.

This is a clip from a recent email conversation between Troy and an ex employee of the firm who was posing as a satisfied customer. ========= "I was trying to make my company look good in the face of some pretty bizarre allegations and constant bad pub from somebody who obviously had an axe to grind. Dude -- I was a tax director. My job was to sell the service. How'm I 'posta sell the service if idiots were making 'em look bad. I posted Ed Foont, too. But that post was accurate all except my name...which mistakenly appeared at the bottom anyway. I wrote those things to offset what I thought at the time were false, disparraging statements being made against the Law Firm. I am neither a client nor a friend. Good luck and watch yourself. They're ruthless over there." ==========

Again... The fact that such an investigation is in progress should not in itself cast any reflection upon the integrity or reputation of the officers or other individuals of the law offices of Roni Lynn Deutch. This inquiry is for the sole purpose of ascertaining the facts about individual attorney-client relationships and pertinent employee or ex-employee experiences in general, to assist us in our investigation and the law suit filed against us by Roni Lynn Deutch.

How many other positive fake postings are there by employees of Roni Lynn Deutch ?? Is she suing them too?

Thank you for your time and help.

Shawn Sacramento, California
U.S.A.

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This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 02/02/2006 12:38 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Scott-Juceam-Roni-Deutch-Roni-Lynn-Deutch/Sacramento-California/Scott-Juceam-threatening-phone-call-Roni-Deutch-Roni-Lynn-Deutch-tax-attorney-HELP-bei-174371. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1 Consumer Comment

Roni Lynn Deutch "The Tax Lady"

AUTHOR: Kirk - (U.S.A.)

On Thursday, May 12, 2011; Roni Lynn Deutch aka "The Tax Lady" held a news conference outside her North Highlands (Sacramento), CA offices indicating that she is closing her offices and is completely broke!  Deutch also said that she will be turning in her law license on Monday, May 16, 2011.  The State Attorney General's office has been investigating Deutch for some time and had levied fines against her and a court ordered her to pay back some $475k to her clients.

The Sacramento Bee reports that Deutch's law practice is $10M in debt and she has a personal debt of $5M. 
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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

The Audio threat is Scott Juceam trying to do one of Russel's Voices

AUTHOR: Dan - (U.S.A.)

I have absolutely know doubt that the voice is that of Scott Juceam trying to reproduce one of Russel Deutche's fake voices..



The style of speech is Identical to a fake voice Scott Juceam commonly to act out at work when he was trying to play like a a mafia goon.



The funny part is everybody knows that Troy and his brother are not "Teller of truth" the subject of the lawsuit. Teller of truth is much much to sharp for the Deutch Klan to figure out.



I still cant figure out with literally tens of thousands of former clients of the law firm Juceam works at they need to fabricate satisfied client reports, It just seems like there would be one or two actual satisfied clients out here. I know that in my time at the Law firm I never saw one of my clients get a settlement from the IRS. (and client dispositions were posted on the wall with the amount of their settlement) Hmmm. come to think of it I can't think of anybody I worked with who ever recognized a name on the list. I wonder why. Maybe it's the same reason They are banned from practicing in 2 or 3 states so far.



Dan J

Former Director of Taxation Services

The Law office of Roni Lynn Deutch

(Actual title for telephone sales reps with ZERO, NADA NO LEGAL OR TAX LAW TRAINING, some of whom were felons and wore tracking ankle bracelets to work )



Troy, Sue them for your legal fees and a tidy bonus, once the judge sees the facts of this case you can't lose. you know my number give me a call if I can help
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I am a former employee of this Company and the voice recorded is that of Scott Juceam.

AUTHOR: Michael - (U.S.A.)

I am a former employee of this Company and the voice recorded is that of Scott Juceam. I am ashamed of him for threatening someones family like this. I had a heated conversation with him a week or so back where he said pretty much some of the same things to me he said on the recordings. He also accused me of making bad reports on rip off.



He has lied about me to other people to get me to call him and I did, after which he told me he said the things he said about me because he knew they would get back to me and I would respond to him because he thinks I am mad at this firm and want to hurt them. Nothing is farther from the truth.



I made a report on rip off while I was working for this company 5 or 6 years ago under the name of Royce. At the time I was trying to negate bad comments made on here about the place I worked for.



I think you should go after Scott for his lame attitude and for making terroristic threats.



You have something to say about me Scott, say it to my face. Don't drag innocent people into your games. This is not about that company, this is about you Scott. You also admitted to me you were guilty of these things. Get a life Biotch.
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#4 UPDATE EX-employee responds

The voice in question. Scott Juceam

AUTHOR: TaxDirector - (U.S.A.)

That voice belongs to a sorry ndividual named Scott Juceam! He is a coward and has allot of nerve threatening someone elses family. I wish he would do that to me so I would have a reason to kick off in his scarey behind. He is so afraid of action, but starts isht over the phone like he is an attorney.



Grow up chicken isht Scott!
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Recorded voice threats, can you identify who this is? Investigation: If you received calls from this same voice, please contact us.

AUTHOR: Shawn - (U.S.A.)

The following is a recording of a threatening and intimidating phone call made to the Founder of this website, ED Magedson.



The man who called Ed tells him in the recording that he is Troy, then Shawn and Troy. The caller also tells ED Magedson that he is going to be fish food.. (see complete transcript below, and a link to the actual recording)



The only way the three of us (Ed, Troy and Shawn) were connected is through the lawsuit filed against the three of us by the Law Offices Roni Lynn Deutch.



When I first heard the recording, I could immediately identify the voice when the Police Department from Arizona called, they played a small portion of the tape recording with out telling me my name was ever mentioned, and I immediately identified who it was, but, to be sure, I need others to listen to it and document their findings and send them to me thru this website.



In an effort to see if others can identify this recording, or, if anyone else has received similar threats from the same voice, please contact the Editor of this site to forward your information to me.



Click here to play the threatening phone call. Do you know who this is or did you ever get a call from someone that has this same threatening voice?



Just in case you cannot undersand the recording, below is a transcript of the recorded threatening phone call, please let us know if you can indentify this voice.



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On September 30, 2004, two phone calls were made to Ed Magedson from a male caller.



The second call was taped and subsequently transcribed.



TRANSCRIPT



ED: Hey Ben, I just got a serious threatening phone call. I got them both on Caller ID, and

they're probably two different pay phones which is unusual. (phone rings again) All right, hold it, that may be them. Call me.



(Unintelligible) I wonder (unintelligible).



ED.. Hello.



MALE CALLER.. Why'd you hang up?



ED.. I don't know who it is. If you're not going to answer my questions, there's nothing to talk to you for.



MALE CALLER.. I told you it was Troy.



ED.. I don't know -- What did you say?



MALE CALLER.. Troy.



ED.. Who's Troy?



MC.. C'mon. You said to meet you at the -- This is Ed, right?



ED.. Yeah.



MC.. You said, you said meet me here, and we'll work it out.



ED.. What are you talking about?



MC.. So I'm here.



ED.. What? Work what out? I have no idea what the subject is. What's the subject?



MC.. I don't know. How could you not know? I'm here at the station. You're not here.



ED.. What station?



MC.. The police station.



ED.. What police station?



MC.. In Arizona. You said be at the police station in Arizona at Mesa. So that's where I'm at.



ED.. Well, who's Shawn Kreb? I didn't make any appointment with anybody to be at the police station.



MC.. Aw, Jesus. Aw, come on.



ED.. Who is this?



MC.. We just flew in from Oak



ED.. Who is this?



MC.. Aw, man.



ED.. Who is this?



MC.. I told you. It's Troy and Sean.



ED.. I don't think so. Troy and Sean would have called me, so you're bullshitting me.



MC.. You're right. You're right. But guess what? We are watching you.



ED.. Can you tell me what this is in reference to?



MC.. You know what it's in reference to, you fat fuck. You mother fuck. We're watching you.



ED.. Well, what are you watching? For what?



MC.. Oh you know exactly why, and so do the police, which is why we're here. And you know why. And this fun is just beginning because we now know where you are. We know about you, and we know about your partner, and we know about all of it.



ED.. You know, I have no partner, A. B, if you know where I am, so how come you're not here?



MC.. And we also know about your family, too.



ED.. Oh, you do?



MC.. We do, because we spoke to somebody.



ED.. Oh. .



MC.. We do, Ed.



ED.. Oh. And so, if you're at the police, why don't you just deal with it with the police?



MC.. That would be the easy thing to do, my friend. And they already informed us you're under a major investigation, which is nothing new from your Brooklyn days, you fuck.

We know you. We know you. How long did you think it would take before we found you?



ED.. Who's "we"? I have no idea (unintelligible).



MC.. You do, you mother fuck, You're gonna be fish food, and we can't wait for that to happen, you mother fuck.

Turn over every rock and stone, you ever fucked with.

We're coming down on you like a fuckin' house. We know about your house.

And we know about your parents' house.



ED.. What house? Why aren't you there at my house? You don't know where I live.



MC.. Oh, we do. We do



ED.. Well, so how come you're not here?



MC.. Watch yourself, Eddie boy. You mother fuck.

You've got a big mouth, but you can't back it up. You're a con man.



ED.. I am?



MC.. You're an extortionist con man. You know it. Yeah, you do know it.



ED.. Well who's Shawn? Which Shawn are you talking about?



MC.. It's Shawn - The people that you conspire with are not the people you think they are.

You know Ed. You know.

And you know you're under investigation, too. (unintelligible)



ED.. Well tell me, if I'm under investigation --



MC.. Why don't you call your favorite detective? Call your favorite detective, your favorite, You know who this is.



ED.. There is no detective that I've dealt with



MC.. Oh there is. There is.



ED.. You see, you're just bluffing. You know nothing.



MC.. Yes, okay.



ED.. If I'm under investigation, tell me who. And who's my favorite detective?



MC.. Call Ron, You think somehow if you can't be found, you're safe. Well that's -- you're found. You've been found.



ED.. Well, if I've been found, how come you're not here?



MC.. Cause that's the beauty behind it, Ed. See? But we'll be here for a while too. So don't worry. We'll call you back. Don't worry about a ding, Ed. You keep fucking over people



ED.. Don't worry about a ding?



MC.. You keep fucking over those people, pal



ED.. What? I don't fuck anybody over. I don't write the reports. You know that, right?



MC.. We know who does write the reports because he doesn't work for you anymore does he? Huh? Mike doesn't work for you anymore, does he?



ED.. Who?



MC.. Oh, you know who Mike Papi is, you mother fuck You know who Papi is.

You think people who work for you really work for you Pal.



INTERRUPTING - Please deposit twenty-five cents.

FEMALE VOICE (RECORDING) Sounds of a payphone.



======== END OF THREATENING CALL ========



The above call was made from Tempe Arizona.



More documents and related evidence to be posted as it comes available to us.



You should also know, months prior to this recording and even weeks prior to this call on September 30, 2004, ED Magedson had received calls from the same voice. This same person is still calling.



Please contact us if you can identify this voice, please contact us thru this website.
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#6 Author of original report

Recorded voice threats, can you identify who this is? Investigation: If you received calls from this same voice, please contact us.

AUTHOR: Shawn - (U.S.A.)

The following is a recording of a threatening and intimidating phone call made to the Founder of this website, ED Magedson.



The man who called Ed tells him in the recording that he is Troy, then Shawn and Troy. The caller also tells ED Magedson that he is going to be fish food.. (see complete transcript below, and a link to the actual recording)



The only way the three of us (Ed, Troy and Shawn) were connected is through the lawsuit filed against the three of us by the Law Offices Roni Lynn Deutch.



When I first heard the recording, I could immediately identify the voice when the Police Department from Arizona called, they played a small portion of the tape recording with out telling me my name was ever mentioned, and I immediately identified who it was, but, to be sure, I need others to listen to it and document their findings and send them to me thru this website.



In an effort to see if others can identify this recording, or, if anyone else has received similar threats from the same voice, please contact the Editor of this site to forward your information to me.



Click here to play the threatening phone call. Do you know who this is or did you ever get a call from someone that has this same threatening voice?



Just in case you cannot undersand the recording, below is a transcript of the recorded threatening phone call, please let us know if you can indentify this voice.



------------------

On September 30, 2004, two phone calls were made to Ed Magedson from a male caller.



The second call was taped and subsequently transcribed.



TRANSCRIPT



ED: Hey Ben, I just got a serious threatening phone call. I got them both on Caller ID, and

they're probably two different pay phones which is unusual. (phone rings again) All right, hold it, that may be them. Call me.



(Unintelligible) I wonder (unintelligible).



ED.. Hello.



MALE CALLER.. Why'd you hang up?



ED.. I don't know who it is. If you're not going to answer my questions, there's nothing to talk to you for.



MALE CALLER.. I told you it was Troy.



ED.. I don't know -- What did you say?



MALE CALLER.. Troy.



ED.. Who's Troy?



MC.. C'mon. You said to meet you at the -- This is Ed, right?



ED.. Yeah.



MC.. You said, you said meet me here, and we'll work it out.



ED.. What are you talking about?



MC.. So I'm here.



ED.. What? Work what out? I have no idea what the subject is. What's the subject?



MC.. I don't know. How could you not know? I'm here at the station. You're not here.



ED.. What station?



MC.. The police station.



ED.. What police station?



MC.. In Arizona. You said be at the police station in Arizona at Mesa. So that's where I'm at.



ED.. Well, who's Shawn Kreb? I didn't make any appointment with anybody to be at the police station.



MC.. Aw, Jesus. Aw, come on.



ED.. Who is this?



MC.. We just flew in from Oak



ED.. Who is this?



MC.. Aw, man.



ED.. Who is this?



MC.. I told you. It's Troy and Sean.



ED.. I don't think so. Troy and Sean would have called me, so you're bullshitting me.



MC.. You're right. You're right. But guess what? We are watching you.



ED.. Can you tell me what this is in reference to?



MC.. You know what it's in reference to, you fat fuck. You mother fuck. We're watching you.



ED.. Well, what are you watching? For what?



MC.. Oh you know exactly why, and so do the police, which is why we're here. And you know why. And this fun is just beginning because we now know where you are. We know about you, and we know about your partner, and we know about all of it.



ED.. You know, I have no partner, A. B, if you know where I am, so how come you're not here?



MC.. And we also know about your family, too.



ED.. Oh, you do?



MC.. We do, because we spoke to somebody.



ED.. Oh. .



MC.. We do, Ed.



ED.. Oh. And so, if you're at the police, why don't you just deal with it with the police?



MC.. That would be the easy thing to do, my friend. And they already informed us you're under a major investigation, which is nothing new from your Brooklyn days, you fuck.

We know you. We know you. How long did you think it would take before we found you?



ED.. Who's "we"? I have no idea (unintelligible).



MC.. You do, you mother fuck, You're gonna be fish food, and we can't wait for that to happen, you mother fuck.

Turn over every rock and stone, you ever fucked with.

We're coming down on you like a fuckin' house. We know about your house.

And we know about your parents' house.



ED.. What house? Why aren't you there at my house? You don't know where I live.



MC.. Oh, we do. We do



ED.. Well, so how come you're not here?



MC.. Watch yourself, Eddie boy. You mother fuck.

You've got a big mouth, but you can't back it up. You're a con man.



ED.. I am?



MC.. You're an extortionist con man. You know it. Yeah, you do know it.



ED.. Well who's Shawn? Which Shawn are you talking about?



MC.. It's Shawn - The people that you conspire with are not the people you think they are.

You know Ed. You know.

And you know you're under investigation, too. (unintelligible)



ED.. Well tell me, if I'm under investigation --



MC.. Why don't you call your favorite detective? Call your favorite detective, your favorite, You know who this is.



ED.. There is no detective that I've dealt with



MC.. Oh there is. There is.



ED.. You see, you're just bluffing. You know nothing.



MC.. Yes, okay.



ED.. If I'm under investigation, tell me who. And who's my favorite detective?



MC.. Call Ron, You think somehow if you can't be found, you're safe. Well that's -- you're found. You've been found.



ED.. Well, if I've been found, how come you're not here?



MC.. Cause that's the beauty behind it, Ed. See? But we'll be here for a while too. So don't worry. We'll call you back. Don't worry about a ding, Ed. You keep fucking over people



ED.. Don't worry about a ding?



MC.. You keep fucking over those people, pal



ED.. What? I don't fuck anybody over. I don't write the reports. You know that, right?



MC.. We know who does write the reports because he doesn't work for you anymore does he? Huh? Mike doesn't work for you anymore, does he?



ED.. Who?



MC.. Oh, you know who Mike Papi is, you mother fuck You know who Papi is.

You think people who work for you really work for you Pal.



INTERRUPTING - Please deposit twenty-five cents.

FEMALE VOICE (RECORDING) Sounds of a payphone.



======== END OF THREATENING CALL ========



The above call was made from Tempe Arizona.



More documents and related evidence to be posted as it comes available to us.



You should also know, months prior to this recording and even weeks prior to this call on September 30, 2004, ED Magedson had received calls from the same voice. This same person is still calling.



Please contact us if you can identify this voice, please contact us thru this website.
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Recorded voice threats, can you identify who this is? Investigation: If you received calls from this same voice, please contact us.

AUTHOR: Shawn - (U.S.A.)

The following is a recording of a threatening and intimidating phone call made to the Founder of this website, ED Magedson.



The man who called Ed tells him in the recording that he is Troy, then Shawn and Troy. The caller also tells ED Magedson that he is going to be fish food.. (see complete transcript below, and a link to the actual recording)



The only way the three of us (Ed, Troy and Shawn) were connected is through the lawsuit filed against the three of us by the Law Offices Roni Lynn Deutch.



When I first heard the recording, I could immediately identify the voice when the Police Department from Arizona called, they played a small portion of the tape recording with out telling me my name was ever mentioned, and I immediately identified who it was, but, to be sure, I need others to listen to it and document their findings and send them to me thru this website.



In an effort to see if others can identify this recording, or, if anyone else has received similar threats from the same voice, please contact the Editor of this site to forward your information to me.



Click here to play the threatening phone call. Do you know who this is or did you ever get a call from someone that has this same threatening voice?



Just in case you cannot undersand the recording, below is a transcript of the recorded threatening phone call, please let us know if you can indentify this voice.



------------------

On September 30, 2004, two phone calls were made to Ed Magedson from a male caller.



The second call was taped and subsequently transcribed.



TRANSCRIPT



ED: Hey Ben, I just got a serious threatening phone call. I got them both on Caller ID, and

they're probably two different pay phones which is unusual. (phone rings again) All right, hold it, that may be them. Call me.



(Unintelligible) I wonder (unintelligible).



ED.. Hello.



MALE CALLER.. Why'd you hang up?



ED.. I don't know who it is. If you're not going to answer my questions, there's nothing to talk to you for.



MALE CALLER.. I told you it was Troy.



ED.. I don't know -- What did you say?



MALE CALLER.. Troy.



ED.. Who's Troy?



MC.. C'mon. You said to meet you at the -- This is Ed, right?



ED.. Yeah.



MC.. You said, you said meet me here, and we'll work it out.



ED.. What are you talking about?



MC.. So I'm here.



ED.. What? Work what out? I have no idea what the subject is. What's the subject?



MC.. I don't know. How could you not know? I'm here at the station. You're not here.



ED.. What station?



MC.. The police station.



ED.. What police station?



MC.. In Arizona. You said be at the police station in Arizona at Mesa. So that's where I'm at.



ED.. Well, who's Shawn Kreb? I didn't make any appointment with anybody to be at the police station.



MC.. Aw, Jesus. Aw, come on.



ED.. Who is this?



MC.. We just flew in from Oak



ED.. Who is this?



MC.. Aw, man.



ED.. Who is this?



MC.. I told you. It's Troy and Sean.



ED.. I don't think so. Troy and Sean would have called me, so you're bullshitting me.



MC.. You're right. You're right. But guess what? We are watching you.



ED.. Can you tell me what this is in reference to?



MC.. You know what it's in reference to, you fat fuck. You mother fuck. We're watching you.



ED.. Well, what are you watching? For what?



MC.. Oh you know exactly why, and so do the police, which is why we're here. And you know why. And this fun is just beginning because we now know where you are. We know about you, and we know about your partner, and we know about all of it.



ED.. You know, I have no partner, A. B, if you know where I am, so how come you're not here?



MC.. And we also know about your family, too.



ED.. Oh, you do?



MC.. We do, because we spoke to somebody.



ED.. Oh. .



MC.. We do, Ed.



ED.. Oh. And so, if you're at the police, why don't you just deal with it with the police?



MC.. That would be the easy thing to do, my friend. And they already informed us you're under a major investigation, which is nothing new from your Brooklyn days, you fuck.

We know you. We know you. How long did you think it would take before we found you?



ED.. Who's "we"? I have no idea (unintelligible).



MC.. You do, you mother fuck, You're gonna be fish food, and we can't wait for that to happen, you mother fuck.

Turn over every rock and stone, you ever fucked with.

We're coming down on you like a fuckin' house. We know about your house.

And we know about your parents' house.



ED.. What house? Why aren't you there at my house? You don't know where I live.



MC.. Oh, we do. We do



ED.. Well, so how come you're not here?



MC.. Watch yourself, Eddie boy. You mother fuck.

You've got a big mouth, but you can't back it up. You're a con man.



ED.. I am?



MC.. You're an extortionist con man. You know it. Yeah, you do know it.



ED.. Well who's Shawn? Which Shawn are you talking about?



MC.. It's Shawn - The people that you conspire with are not the people you think they are.

You know Ed. You know.

And you know you're under investigation, too. (unintelligible)



ED.. Well tell me, if I'm under investigation --



MC.. Why don't you call your favorite detective? Call your favorite detective, your favorite, You know who this is.



ED.. There is no detective that I've dealt with



MC.. Oh there is. There is.



ED.. You see, you're just bluffing. You know nothing.



MC.. Yes, okay.



ED.. If I'm under investigation, tell me who. And who's my favorite detective?



MC.. Call Ron, You think somehow if you can't be found, you're safe. Well that's -- you're found. You've been found.



ED.. Well, if I've been found, how come you're not here?



MC.. Cause that's the beauty behind it, Ed. See? But we'll be here for a while too. So don't worry. We'll call you back. Don't worry about a ding, Ed. You keep fucking over people



ED.. Don't worry about a ding?



MC.. You keep fucking over those people, pal



ED.. What? I don't fuck anybody over. I don't write the reports. You know that, right?



MC.. We know who does write the reports because he doesn't work for you anymore does he? Huh? Mike doesn't work for you anymore, does he?



ED.. Who?



MC.. Oh, you know who Mike Papi is, you mother fuck You know who Papi is.

You think people who work for you really work for you Pal.



INTERRUPTING - Please deposit twenty-five cents.

FEMALE VOICE (RECORDING) Sounds of a payphone.



======== END OF THREATENING CALL ========



The above call was made from Tempe Arizona.



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You should also know, months prior to this recording and even weeks prior to this call on September 30, 2004, ED Magedson had received calls from the same voice. This same person is still calling.



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