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  • Submitted: Wed, April 24, 2013
  • Updated: Mon, April 29, 2013

  • Reported By: YOU know who I am! — Mansfield Texas
Shepherds Von Saur
25722 Willard path Internet United States of America

Shepherds Von Saur Joey and Andrea Alaniz Sold our puppies to other families after we paid 1700.00 upfront for pick of the litter, didn't tell us 2 puppies had died, tried to give us a 2 diff dogs from a cobreeder, would not refund our money San Antonio, Internet

*Author of original report: Update April 2014 German Shepherds of Texas, Joey and Andrea Alaniz

*Author of original report: Nov 2013 Update on Joey and Andrea Alaniz, AKA Shepherds Von Saur, German Shepherds of Texas

*Author of original report: Update on Joey and Andrea Alaniz, AKA Shepherds Von Saur, German Shepherds of Texas

*Author of original report: See report # 1057107 Joey and Andrea Alaniz are at it again! Shepherds Von Saur, German shepherds of Texas, Thieves, Con Artists, Scam!

*Author of original report: Joey and Andrea Alaniz' false report against me. Completely defamatory.

*Author of original report: Joey and Andrea have pretended that I was their nurse and retaliated against me for my initial report against them by attacking my nursing career...defamation

*Consumer Comment: I WAS ALSO RIPPED OFF BY JOEY & ANDREA ALANIZ

*Author of original report: Absolutely fraudulent

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Andrea and Joey Alaniz - Shepherds Von Saur

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DO NOT give them your money. DO NOT conduct any business with these people. RUN the opposite direction! Here's our experience and review of this breeder: We Paid Joey Alaniz $1700.00 upfront for 2 unborn Black and Tan male German Shepherds. We paid in full in order to have the first pick of the litter as we were guaranteed.

This was litter "D" by "chevelle" born feb 26th, 2013, 4 females and 3 males. Joey kept us informed throughout the birthing process and that's how we knew the amount and genders. After a couple of weeks, we noticed on Joey's website that the # of the litter had changed to 4 females and 1 male.

It turned out that 2 of the male puppies had died. Joey didn't tell us this willingly, we had to ask him why the litter amount had changed on his website. Also, This litter did not produce male Black and Tan puppies as was guaranteed by Joey. FYI: He has changed his website multiple times to reflect the many mistakes he had made with our transaction. I have pictures of his website prior to the changes.

Moving forward, Joey insisted that we accept the remaining black male from Chevelle's litter and a second black male from "Diva's" litter born on March 1'st, 2013.

We decided to consider the black males when once again (on our own) discovered that Joey had taken extra deposits from 2 other families for the exact same 2 dogs. This information was posted on his website. We questioned Joey about this issue and he said that he had promised the dogs to other families because he didn't know if we were going to accept the black dogs.

The problem with this decision on his part was that he had never discussed this issue with us. Remember, we paid him $1700.00 for the first pick of the litter. At this point we had spoken to Joey multiple times requesting a refund. He absolutely and arrogantly refused to do so and that's when he pulled out his next "hat trick." Joey offered us 2 Black and Tan puppies from a "co-breeder." A co-breeder? Where did that come from?

That was never part of the deal. He also offered us a $300.00 refund incentive if we would agree to this option, and then RESCINDED on that offer. He refused to give any us any co breeder information and admitted that he had only been in business one year (2012 litters). Today his website has a generalized statement of having 20 years experience. (I have the original).

We decided to consider the Black and Tan puppies co breeder option, ONLY if they were healthy. We NEVER agreed to give up the black puppies. WE were forced to try and work with him because he had our money and had ZERO intention on giving it back.

Joey was to deliver the co breeders black and tans at 8 weeks, and then at the last minute decided to wait until they were 12 weeks. In fact, he was supposed to already have those dogs in his possession, which had NOT. He had admitted that one of his own big dogs had been sick and that the parvovirus was an issue with his current 2 litters.

Mind you, at this point we had aggressively demanded a full refund again and again. Joey had numerous chances to do the right thing by refunding us in full.

Because we kept questioning him and were obviously disgusted by his poor business tactics (greedy behavior) Joey NOW decided that he didn't feel comfortable giving us the Black and Tan dogs, which was HIS idea to begin with. Was he serious? He wanted to deliver 2 black male puppies just to be spiteful...this was his solution to an ongoing problem, after all of the discussions and wasted time listening to all of his excuses?

As of today we are working with our bank and Paypal to receive a refund. FYI: PayPal does not offer protection on living creatures and they only give you 45 days to dispute. That doesn't work when you're buying puppies, since they have to be at least 8 weeks before they are delivered. Luckily, our bank is disputing this train wreck with pay pal directly.

We have been through hell and back dealing with Joey and Andrea Alaniz. They have basically RIPPED US OFF and still have our $1700.00 and we have NO product, AKA NO black and tan PUPPIES! Joey is very much a "salesman" and gives a great story, but he's a liar, crook, and thief. LOOK up he and his wife on publicdata.com. You will see that they are NOT to be trusted.

Once they have your money...they put you on the back burner. They also advertise as though they live in particular cities. In our case, his advertisement led us to believe he was in Mansfield, TX. He does the same for Houston, Dallas, Austin, etc. See his advertisement via e-bay classifieds. Then you find out that he's based out of San Antonio?

We are hardworking people, I'm an ER nurse and my husband is a Firefighter. Please take this information and run the opposite direction from this so called "breeder" business. We should have done our homework more thoroughly, but Joey puts on a good show. We were suckers! Learn from our HUGE mistake.

Anyone who has to talk as much, and boast about their own product as much as Joey Alaniz ,raises a RED FLAG. He even brags about the type of neighborhood he resides in, how much he is worth, and his amazing vehicle...wait for it....A "Hummer" folks! As if that makes him a legitimate business man? Unfortunately, we've had to learn the hard way. Don't be fooled!

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#1 Author of original report

Update April 2014 German Shepherds of Texas, Joey and Andrea Alaniz

AUTHOR: Marysol - ()

UPDATE!

We won our court case against Joey and Andrea Alaniz in Jan 2014.  All reports will be updated, so please be on alert.  To date April 2014, despite losing, the Alaniz'  will not under any circumstances refund us our $1700.00 plus court costs.  Joey Alaniz tried to bribe us into having all of our posted negative reviews (over the past year) removed.  Joey said that we had to remove everything we posted and wanted us to sign an agreement to stop giving him negative reviews.  He also said that  unless we complied with his demands,  we "would never see a dime" of our money back. Please email me if you want the truth, although the truth is all over the internet.  We have copies of our judgment which will be posted for the public to view.  Also, the "certifications" and "inspections" they have listed on their website proves that there have been many complaints about their business.  Those were forced inspections, and fortunately for them, they were given time to clean up their mess.  The live inspection is also posted on the internet.  Do your research well, our story is published on countless sites. Lastly, they give themselves their own positive reviews, which is not surprising to us.  We will also be posting information about another person they have ripped off,  whom we just recently found out about.  That brings the total to 4 families in 1.5 years. They have only been in business since 2012, despite the lies on their website. They have had 3 kennel names thus far, "shepherds von saur" "german shepherds of Texas" and "Suar Haus Hunds" (all since 2012).  Their primary phone number has remained the same ending in "1388" (but they do have additional numbers).  Joey usually has a very confrontational comeback to our reviews, so let's see what it will be this time.

They are no longer using "Shepherds Von Saur" and have made any and all attempts to have the name removed from the internet (countless damaging reviews).  Today, they primarily use "German Shepherds of Texas" as the kennel name.  

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Nov 2013 Update on Joey and Andrea Alaniz, AKA Shepherds Von Saur, German Shepherds of Texas

AUTHOR: Marysol - ()

 

Update: Our Court date was November 8th, 2013.  We met these frauds in person. The Alaniz' requested to have our case dismissed and were under the impression that all they would have to do is sign dismissal paperwork.  The Judge denied their request for a dismissal.  We are scheduled for trial January 21st, 2013.  The Alaniz' will do anything to extend the inevitable and just keep trying to buy more time in order to win a losing battle.
Note: they have also changed one of their email addresses to:
texasshepherds2013@yahoo.com

 

CAUTION: BEWARE! Business name "Shepherds Von Saur" and "German Shepherds of Texas."

New Alias "Saur Haus Hunds"

 IF you are a reputable breeder or potential consumer...stay clear of these people: Joey and Andrea Alaniz, AKA Hector Joel Alaniz Jr, Andrea Melissa Saur.  They will ruin your name, reputation, and credibility.  They are posted all over the internet.  Go to rip off report.com and any other website you can think of and you will find out for yourself.  Do not breed your dogs with them.  Email me if you have questions. If you are a potential buyer then you have been given an opportunity to run the opposite direction.  I wish my family as well as others had been so lucky. They have been reported to multiple entities to include the FBI's internet crime center, Attorney General, and Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation, Case # BRE20130014188.  See YouTube Video, youtube.com/watch?v=eSnHv9lOipQ which is public information, and scroll to time 19:54or view the entire video.
 
The onsite video from the Texas Department of Licensing and Regulation proves Joey Alaniz admitting to and liable for the following: 
a. He does not use co breeders (as he advertises via his website).    See: shepherdsvonsaur.com/about_us
b. He lives in a HOA, with strict rules, policies, and regulations regarding the number of pets allowed on the premises and forbidden home based business practices.
c. He does not have a kennel located in New Braunfels TX. (As he advertises via two separate websites). See his website: germanshepherdsoftexas.com/contact_usand  http://shepherdsvonsaur.com/contact_us
d. He Claims to have video of Mr. Fritz trespassing, driving all the way from Arlington, TX to harass him. (Mr. Alaniz has made a false deceptive statement/allegation. We are requesting the said "film" as proof from the Alaniz').
 

They are advertising via this website pedigreedatabase.com. See: 
pedigreedatabase.com/classifieds.viewad?adid=200816
Saur Haus Hunds is their new alias.  Click on send email to Saur Haus Hunds and you will see that the email is Shepherdsvonsaur@yahoo.com


They have 2 websites "red flag" to try and scam more people.  Web sites: ShepherdsVonSaur.com and germanshepherdsoftexas.com.  We are taking this opportunity to inform the public of our dealings with Joey and Andrea Alaniz  from San Antonio, TX.  Our Story, along with two other families, is now published on Ripoffreport.com (Google them).  All three families have been ripped off within their very FIRST year of business. Please take our unfortunate experience for what it's worth.  We only wish that we had been smarter and done our research better. 
Type in the following report numbers;
1.Report # 1045977
2. Report #1057107
3. Report #1069812
4.Report #1080851
5. Report# 1076598
6.  Report # 1046253
All reports have multiple updates from April 24, 2013 to November 2013.


 
UPDATED NOVEMBER 2013
 
Trend of deceptive business practice by Hector Joel Alaniz Jr., Andrea M. Saur Alaniz,and Shepherds Von Saur
 
1.  Tammy Lopez paid the Alaniz' $750.00 for a German shepherd puppy and did not receive a puppy or a refund.  She sued the Alaniz' and was awarded a judgment for $780.00 in May 2013, which to date has not been paid.  (See: copy of judgment in favor of Tammy Lopez)
 
2.  We paid $1700.00 to the Alaniz' and did not receive puppies or a refund.  We filed the current suit on May 22, 2013.
 
3.  Paula Moore paid $1800.00 for one German shepherd and received her puppy from the Veterinary ER clinic where the Alaniz' abandoned her. The puppy was diagnosed with the Parvovirus. The costs of medical bills are approximately $6000.00 plus (GOOGLE public reports posted by Paula Moore).



OTHER: additional Alaniz RED FLAGS
 
1.  The Alaniz' have changed and updated their website multiple times.
 
2.  The Alaniz' have since changed their advertisements promoting themselves as "unregistered users" failing to disclose their identities and business name.  Such advertisements ambiguously suggest the defendants previous living address 314 Legend Breeze, San Antonio, TX 78258 as the place of business.  A different  phone number (210-542-7111) is also advertised as a point of contact. This in an attempt to evade the negative internet reviews connected to their true address: 25722 Willard Path, San Antonio TX. and business phone number: 210-689-1388. This is a form of deceptive business practice in order to mislead the public and potential consumers.(see: e-bay classified advertisement and public data records with defendants previous residential address).
 
3. We the buyers never signed a binding contract, because a contract never existed at the time of purchase. Defendants claim that their "website"  is  there supposed contract.  The only documents we received were a RECEIPT of purchase from the defendants, and transaction receipts from Pay Pal. Months later the defendants developed a contract.
(See: copy of recent contract developed by the defendants on their website).shepherdsvonsaur.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/docs/puppy_signed.214215141.pdf
 
4. Discovered additional public information from the Bexar county clerk's office regarding multiple lawsuits against the Alaniz' .  (See: public data documentation regarding the Alaniz' litigation history).
Their current address, 25722 Willard Path, San Antonio TX is currently in foreclosure status and was auctioned in November 2013. 
 
5.  The utilize two separate websites, See: germanshepherdsoftexas.com and  shepherdsvonsaur.com/
 
6.  They will not allow you to visit your puppy or meet the parents, which means that a buyer cannot see the environment of which the puppy is raised. Mr. Alaniz is known for meeting buyers at a park and /or roadside, See: shepherdsvonsaur.com/puppies_for_sale


Also, see YouTube video uploaded by Tammy Lopez to hear her audio/ conversation  with Joey Analiz 

youtube.com/watch?v=oYXsXrAGeKI
youtube.com/watch?v=pbrHo3iuhu8

email for more information if interested.

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Update on Joey and Andrea Alaniz, AKA Shepherds Von Saur, German Shepherds of Texas

AUTHOR: YOU Know who I am! - ()

August 16th, 2013

Update on Joey and Andrea Alaniz, AKA Shepherds Von Saur, German Shepherds of Texas.

We were scheduled to be in court this month on August 21st, 2013 and Joey and Andrea were granted a  request for continuance. Just another stalling tactic on their part.  We have a harassment investigation in progress via the Arlington, TX police department.  The Alaniz' had the nerve to contact my husband's employer by phone and by mail in an attempt to cause us problems.  They are still trying to find out if and where I work.  This is when the Arlington PD became more involved and actually contacted them by phone.  They have been told  NOT to contact our employers nor our family regarding this matter, as it is a "civil" case.   These people will stop at nothing to rip people off.  They are out of control and still somehow selling puppies.  They have recently tried to bribe another person they ripped off (Paula, see her rip off report under animal abuse) by offering her a free puppy and offering to pay a portion of the $6000.00 dollars in medical bills for the Parvo puppy they sold her.  In exchange, Joey and Andrea requested (blackmail) that she write them a "good" review on the internet since their business is supposedly taking a hit due to bad reviews.  They are also writing their own 5 star reviews under the ID's "h", "Devin", "GSD" and "Joey."  Due to their bad reputation they have also listed themselves as "Melissa" and have posted a different phone number.  This "Melissa" is Andrea's sister from what we have been told. Once again, please stay away from these frauds.  They will take your money and

1. promise you "pick of the litter"  

2.  Give you a puppy that you did not want

3.  or give you a puppy with the Parvovirus.

We have to keep telling our kids that we can't get a puppy right now.  It's heartbreaking to see their sad little faces and listen to their stories of missing "Bruno" (our 13 year old German Shepherd) who died almost two years.  They each sleep with pictures of Bruno on their nightstands, it's so sad.  I even sent Joey and Andrea pictures of them sleeping with the pictures of our loving Bruno.  Moreover, Joey will bring up our names (due to the bad reviews we've given) when he talks to potential buyers, and has the nerve to tell people that we "are crazy" and that he just couldn't please us because we were "difficult buyers." He keeps telling and posting stuff about "natural selection" and that "God" determines the "color" of animals.  Little did he know, he was talking to people within our family/friends who called him in an attempt to learn his M.O.  He keeps writing false rebuttals of how we "abandoned" our puppies when the truth is that the puppies we purchased died from the Parvovirus.  We purchased puppies from the same litter as Paula. He also states that we didn't want the puppies because of their "color."  He promised us black and tan, we paid him for black and tan, and we were to have the pick of the litter for making full payment up front.  He tried to give us dogs from a "co-breeder", then  changed his mind and wanted us to take two black puppies (with the Parvovirus), which sadly ended up dying .  This was our very first buying experience with a "breeder" and one of the biggest mistakes we have ever made.  I hope that people do their research, take something from our experience,...and don't end up like us; disgusted, disappointed, and ripped off.  

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See report # 1057107 Joey and Andrea Alaniz are at it again! Shepherds Von Saur, German shepherds of Texas, Thieves, Con Artists, Scam!

AUTHOR: Marysol - ()

Joey and Andrea Alaniz are at it once again!  Ripped off Another person May/June 2013 and should be punished to fullest extent of the law for animal cruelty!

SEE REPORT #1057107 to read on the most recent person he and his wife scammed.  THEY ARE SELLING PUPPIES WITH THE PARVO VIRUS! Also, they now have 2 websites the older one is shepherdsvonsaur.com and the latest one is GermanshepherdsofTexas.com   

And We have filed a lawsuit against their business and both of them individually.  My friend Tammy (one of the other victims) just beat their ass in court and now it's our turn.  Hopefully the latest victim will join us in our attempts to stop them from ripping other families off and from breeding and selling sick puppies.  SO CRUEL! THEY ARE SO inhumane and greedy.  

 

 

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Joey and Andrea Alaniz' false report against me. Completely defamatory.

AUTHOR: YOU Know who I am! - ()

I forgot to add the copy of their false report about my Nursing. BEWARE OF THESE PEOPLE! i've given the truth, they have made up lies.

We are going to make it our top priority to prove their business "Shepherds Von Saur" fraudulent And to prove their immoral unethical business practice.
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Joey and Andrea have pretended that I was their nurse and retaliated against me for my initial report against them by attacking my nursing career...defamation

AUTHOR: YOU Know who I am! - ()

This is what I just discovered:

Oh my God...are you kidding me? Joey and Andrea Alaniz have retaliated against me by attacking my profession as a nurse? Why is that? It's because just a few days ago I reported their fraudulent business "Shepherds Von Saur" for ripping me off. We paid them $1700.00 for puppies and guess what? No puppies...No refund!

Please see my ripoff report as well as another individual whom they have recently scammed $750.00 from on this website under their names. No puppy for her either!

My Legal Nurse business was an old part time job I started years ago that I don't even do anymore. They are grasping at straws now.

Once again, they have lied in an attempt to defame me by reporting in "text" that I had claimed to have been a doctor. Why in the world would I do such a thing? I have proudly been a RN for14 years and have zero reason to misrepresent myself as a physician. I'm not the fraudulent seller...just the sucker buyer.

And by saying "only" a nurse...just shows the disrespect you have for the people in this world that help YOU! That's the second time you have posted that comment. You couldn't handle one minute in my shoes as "only" a nurse...nor do either one of you have what it takes to even be associated with such an amazing and respectable career.

A physician? That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. If anything, they have misrepresented themselves as legitimate "dog breeders."

I have never even met these frauds, much less provided medical care to them, anyone in their family and/or anyone they know.

In fact, I would hope that this FALSE report NOT made in good faith regarding my nursing practice will only prove to the Judge the alaniz' pathetic attempts at keeping us quiet.

This is obviously a retaliatory attempt at defaming my character.

Their is no truth to their claims in this report of vengeance. FYI: They have also threatened to call mine and my husbands employers for reporting our horrific experience with them.

It is our duty as consumers to inform others of the alaniz' thieving, crooked unprofessionalism, and most importantly misrepresenting themselves as legitimate "dog breeders." I guess this is their first poor attempt at bashing my career.

What's so pathetic is obviously how sneaky and immoral they are by pretending to have had a medical encounter with me as their nurse just to make a false rip off report against me. WOW! It's got to be a photo finish on which one of you is smarter than the other.

Moreover, they are professionals at doing what they do best...LIE! LIE! and more LIES! This type of behavior on their part is what got them into this position in the first place.

They are only bringing more attention to their cold hearted, venomous, vengeful business practice. They continue to prove us right regarding our claims of being ripped off by 2 immoral, greedy, scamming SNAKES!

I would like to thank them for being so pathetic and giving us the proof that we need regarding defamation to give to our lawyers.

They have only made themselves look worse. And yes...I am very disgusted by Joey and Andrea Alaniz' behavior...however this has ZERO to do with my professionalism as a nurse. This is about being screwed out of $1700.00. These 2 could make Mother Theresa angry (RIP).

Please read my ripoff report "story" as well as the other person in which they ripped off in February 2013.

I will be taking them to court, so Joey and Andrea keep on giving us more ammo. Remember...this entire dispute is about your fraudulent business practice not my anger towards you both for scamming us out of $1700.00. This jacked up transaction doesn't have anything to do with me being a nurse. Nice try though.

I doubt that anyone will side with y'all VS 2 members of society who's whole goal in life is to help others.

We are as realistic as they get...we've been hands on in saving lives, we have seen people die, we have consoled families in their darkest hours, we've made a positive difference in the lives of others, we have watched patients walk out of the hospital, whom without our immediate help would have most certainly died, we've exposed ourselves to sickness and disease just to help people, people like YOU! And you have the nerve to scam two hardworking individuals out of $1700.00? And the audacity to make false claims about our patient care...when we have NEVER even met you?

As well as negatively affect Our kids who have cried over and over 2 puppies that never quite made it to our home. Thanks a lot for that.

You guys are really gonna get yourselves into big trouble legally for this false report against my career.

What's entertaining is that It's not going to affect my career one bit...but it will negatively affect your business and reputation as decent and honest professionals.

You people are the ones who give dog breeders in general a bad name. This is just the beginning Joey and Andrea Alaniz..."Shepherds Von Saur," "German Shepherds of Texas." What a joke you two are.
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I WAS ALSO RIPPED OFF BY JOEY & ANDREA ALANIZ

AUTHOR: Tammy Lopez - ()

Please read and share my "Rip Off Report"....http://www.ripoffreport.com/joey-and-andrea-alan/animal-services/internet-internet-2f715.htm
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Absolutely fraudulent

AUTHOR: YOU Know who I am! - ()

I will be posting joey alaniz' ORIGINAL website regarding the puppy guarantee which he has since changed. Defamation is when people falsify the truth in a written manner just as the Alaniz' have today. First of all, We would NEVER LIE and claim that I was a doctor...nor does Mr alaniz no anything about who is the backbone financially in this family.

Unlike them, we would never speak about our worth nor our possessions with a seller. On the other hand, Joey the pompeous "Salesman" that he is would brag about himself. The only thing he got right was the fact that bragging about yourself doesn't make you a better business owner. What does the fact that I am "only" a RN have to do with anything?

This has nothing to do with my career unless you want to view it as being an upstanding individual who takes care of people. Does being a medical professional mean that I an not allowed to get upset about being RIPPED OFF by a fraud? And I challenge Joey and his one year of experience to prove my verbal abuse...first of all I HAVE NEVER spoken with him. I have every single text message and the contract that I will gladly be posting soon.

My text messages definitely read as an upset individual who was not going to tolerate being Ripped Off, especially by a "green" dog breeder who obviously hasn't learned how to conduct business. Who are people going to believe? A registered nurse specializing in emergency medicine with a BSN, helps people everyday, a Firefighter/Paramedic who runs into a burning building to save a life...neither of who has a criminal record" of any kind? Or would they believe a desperate green greedy dog breeder/business in which both people have criminal records?

Since Joey wants to put it all out there and speak of "harrassment"...he called our home approx 27 plus times today. I'll be happy to post those records as well. Also, since this is obviously getting uglier by the second...ask The Alaniz' about the information we gathered on publicdata.com. Andrea Melissa Saur/alaniz has a record for "THEFT" and Hector Joey Alaniz Jr has a couple of "DWI's" and also runs a form of credit card business. We all know how trustwothy that seems.

We are doing our duty by informing anyone and everyone we know about the fraudulent business practice of "Sheperds Von Saur" who is also known as "German Shepherds of Texas." Joey can feel free to post as many text messages sent by myself...in fact they will only justify my claims. No curse words, no crazy threats, just an upset all american family who a so called Dog Breeder stole $1700.00 from. Find someone who would not be upset about that?

And this my friends is why dog breeders have a bad reputation. Oh and get this...they are now trying to sell German Shepherds for $1200.00 and $1500.00 or somewhere in that price range. FYI: joey sold the original puppies without our prior knowledge just to make more money. He sold the to us for 850.00 each then upped his price for the same 2 dogs for I believe to have been $975.00...sound greedy? Sound like fraud? Sound like a business you want to give your money to?

Joey and Andrea may as well waive the white flag...we've got every bit and then some to prove our claims. Keep bringing it on Alaniz' because this is Mrs. Fritz, the mom, the wife, the everyday person...NOT THE RN speaking.

The people will make their own minds up...we are merely informing everyone about our horrific experience with another fraudulent so called Dog breeder. Joey and Andrea are just angry (and obviously unprofessional) that we outsmarted them in the end. Remember...it's not how you start...it how you FINISH! I'll be waiting for another response from the Alaniz' and I will be analyzing their initial rebuttal for more false information equaling defamation of character.

A doctor joey? Really? That one cracks me up...thanks for the entertainment. The consumer will see that they are nothing but trouble especially after their initial rebuttal. At least people know that if they have a complaint against this business that they will respond with a negative and unprofessional act of retaliation. Real smart business move.

They just keep on keeping on, and continue to prove us right.
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#9 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Andrea and Joey Alaniz - Shepherds Von Saur

AUTHOR: Andrea Alaniz - ()

Shepherds von saur Joey Alaniz and Andrea alaniz Lets set record straight and abide by contract Legally and like professional business owners.

Jim Fritz was never happy that he could not choose from what was available and his wife - originally a doctor as being a lie for she is only a nurse-being the financial backbone for him was upset in the news. I offered two dogs from a co - breeder to him in return because even if the dogs I offered him were not suitable he was never going to be happy with the end result. I chose not to offer a co- breeder dogs after his wife marysol started verbally being abusive and uncontrollable on every level- being a professional in the medical field mind you- .

I had a bad feeling that over came me in a decision to abide by our original contract and that was supplying the family with a pair of male dogs coming only from my kennel that I happily offered and guaranteed upon next availability. She would not have any word or flexibility to this point. She pursued in harassing me with verbal abuse and threats that were not fit in an act by a professional in the medical field.

Jim fritz and Marysol Fritz are unprofessional in understanding the laws of nature. I have many clients that are upheld with highest regards in choosing puppies and every client is given the same choosing rights based on deposit. I am sorry that nature did not play in their favor and emotions played a huge factor. The puppy guarantee is highly noted on our website and I recommend anytime a puppy is being purchased to read all terms and conditions. The family was offered to take two original puppies that were only males born in my litter but they were not good enough in their standards because of color. My standards of living at a higher level or what I drive has no bearing on a transaction of purchasing puppies.

The family is upset that we are deciding to stick to original contract but by law I am covering my guarantee and promise to deliver what was purchased. My goal is to only provide a family with suitable and protective animals when they are available at birth. We have since contacted them in resolving delivery of two beautiful puppies that were originally offered but you cannot please everyone and I have come to understand this in my dealings with irrational people that are never satisfied with any transaction that they have dealt with. We have several credible references, satisfied clients and intelligent buyers that understand a basic contract and simple transaction.
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