ED Magedson – Founder
Sinless Vapor3214 North University Ave #455 Provo, Utah USA
Sinless Vapor, Sinless Vaper, Smooth Vapor, Vaper Ultra SINLESS VAPER SCAM, Provo Utah
I purchased the 12 day trial as well, order the trial on 1 Jan 2014, on 3 Jan I the charged my account for the $4.95 s/h. On the 9th I received an email that my trial order had shipped. I contacted customer support to verify and get more information seeing the email had no ship date or tracking number with it. I finally was able to get a tracking number from the heavy accented individual that had a difficult time speaking English. I was able to track the package through the USPS or I thought I was going to, the only information the USPS had was an electronic request for a shipping label that also generated a tracking number.
I cotacted customer support twice a day for the last 5 days and they continue to say if there is a tracking number the package has shipped, each person would give a different ship date from the last. After continuously asking to talk to a supervisor I was finally connected to an idividual that claimed to be a supervisor. [continued below]....
Your cc or bank account will be charged on the 12th day regardless of you calling to cancel or not. The names that may show Smooth Vaper, Sinless Vapor, Sinless Vaper (with an e) or Vaper Ultra which is the newest .
I have done some digging and would like to share some info, Sinless Vapor is controlled by 19th Hole Consulting Company, 450 W 910 S Ste 20, Heber City, Utah 84032-2447. 19th Hole is not registered with the Utah Division of Corporations and Commercial Codes. There appears to be vary little information on the company other tha the Excecutive Director for 19th Hole Consulting is the same as for WOW Pages Limited. That indavidual is Gerald Todd Westra, 890 Dutch View Ct. Midway, UT 84049-6967. If I were able to obtain a phone number I would provide it.
The latest in the line of scam companies is Vaper Ultra (with an e).
Vaper Ultra Corporate Address
Positive Focus Nutrition, LLC
4400 N. Scottsdale Rd.
Scottsdale, AZ 85251-3331
There is a company out of California that is (Vapor Ultra, with an O) that is dueing business legitimately, so do not confuse the two.
If you are on Sinless Vapors web site and click on any thing it will lead you to the Vaper Ultra site. The same site as Sinless Vapor with a different name. I am still working on tracking down the corporation information for Vaper Ultra.
I hope this helps.
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