Speed Ticket Beaters Tried to tell me I could beat my speed ticket in court. It didn't work and the lawyers and judge practically laughed at me. ripoff Internet

Being a good citizen?!

Realize your CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS!

Police officers are to be held accountable in courts "of the people" for their "radar/laser" behaviors. Just because a police officer said it happened doesn't necissarily make it true.

Just because you get a ticket doesn't mean you have to pay.

Standing in a court of law and facing the "accusations" against you is a constitutional right. That's all a ticket is..an "accusation" that you were speeding.
Now it's the burden of the court to prove it against you. (Unless your on video and pass a Lamboroghini) Then you need to probably pay

So you broke the law, how about being a good American citizen, admit you made a mistake and take your medicine?

Pathetic!

So you broke the law then when you bought a stupid package to beat it your upset because the judge laughed. I have news for you the world is laughing at you.

I would keep my mouth shut on this one.

Michelle is correct in stating that the police/DA/judges work together everyday. When a policeman can scam the DA and judge in court and get away with it you know nothing will beat a ticket. I got a ticket from a policeman(policeman is a polite term) and was found guilty with the officers written testimony,my version was not taken into account. The officer was fired about two weeks after my court case for lying and physically assaulting people that he had arrested. The courts knew about the officers conduct when my case went to court,but the testimony was allowed to stand. The officer did lie to the court and the case was then sent before the state supreme court which sided with the lower court. Michelle is correct in stating that they all stick together.

If possible could you send me a copy of what you got.

I bought into Speed Ticket Beaters almost a year ago and still use it to this day, so when I saw this negative feedback about their services I felt compelled to set the record straight on the following issues:

As for the loud obnoxious caller from Speed Ticket Beaters comment, Speed Ticket Beaters is not just an online service, they will call you and inform you of their services when you make a request or inquiry. However, for the most part they appear to prefer to communicate through email, which is fine with me because they respond promptly. I was not pressured into buying into any gimmicks or anything when they called either, they simply informed me that they had received my email and that I should remain confident in their services. So I don't know why someone would want to complain about a call from a company that provides such good communication and services like that, how many other companies give you a call when you email them? This alone should put the entire it's a scam mantra that was sung to rest however I will continue.

In addition to the constant and prompt communication (this includes their handling of all of my questions and emails thoroughly), I was given a lot of useful resources. Honestly, you could not imagine these types of resources without dishing out any kind of money to gather them anyway, so in a way I feel it is well worth it, heck it simplifies it because essentially, all I did is hire someone to look up resources for me and help me understand them.

I was not treated like an idiot, yet I was encouraged to stay confident even the services being rendered to me appeared to be questionable. All I can say is that a very small percentage of people would be able to get through what I've gotten through if it weren't for Speed Ticket Beaters. I had everything against me and my back was against the wall. Obviously, I was surprised to have been able to utilize these resources successfully, but I did, even when I was getting laughed at by my opposing critiques. In the end, I got the last laugh and I was so surprised that I have the official documentation laminated and hung on my wall as proof! To this day I still get other people asking me how in the world I got out of my particular predicament, because it was not easy; however all I did was use public information that is available to all of us, but very difficult to obtain and learn how to use on your own.

This service is not going to jump off a cliff for you or hold your hand as you let yourself drown; it is greatly dependent upon how well you are able to interpret researched material and follow directions (if you need help you can write them emails and they help). If you cannot follow specific and strict directions (including remaining confident throughout the end no matter what), then you might as well have lost before you even started you have to be willing to fight for yourself in order to find anything helpful, you can't be lazy about it.

In any event, I can write to everyone until I get carpal tunnel about how legitimate this company has been throughout my experience and how they made me successful, but personally I don't care whether or not you utilize their services. Just don't lie and chew them out for something they did not do. They are the coach that will get you to the Super Bowl and hand you the blue-prints to an automatic victory, but it is up to you (the player) to execute the fail-proof plan!

I bought into Speed Ticket Beaters almost a year ago and still use it to this day, so when I saw this negative feedback about their services I felt compelled to set the record straight on the following issues:

As for the loud obnoxious caller from Speed Ticket Beaters comment, Speed Ticket Beaters is not just an online service, they will call you and inform you of their services when you make a request or inquiry. However, for the most part they appear to prefer to communicate through email, which is fine with me because they respond promptly. I was not pressured into buying into any gimmicks or anything when they called either, they simply informed me that they had received my email and that I should remain confident in their services. So I don't know why someone would want to complain about a call from a company that provides such good communication and services like that, how many other companies give you a call when you email them? This alone should put the entire it's a scam mantra that was sung to rest however I will continue.

In addition to the constant and prompt communication (this includes their handling of all of my questions and emails thoroughly), I was given a lot of useful resources. Honestly, you could not imagine these types of resources without dishing out any kind of money to gather them anyway, so in a way I feel it is well worth it, heck it simplifies it because essentially, all I did is hire someone to look up resources for me and help me understand them.

I was not treated like an idiot, yet I was encouraged to stay confident even the services being rendered to me appeared to be questionable. All I can say is that a very small percentage of people would be able to get through what I've gotten through if it weren't for Speed Ticket Beaters. I had everything against me and my back was against the wall. Obviously, I was surprised to have been able to utilize these resources successfully, but I did, even when I was getting laughed at by my opposing critiques. In the end, I got the last laugh and I was so surprised that I have the official documentation laminated and hung on my wall as proof! To this day I still get other people asking me how in the world I got out of my particular predicament, because it was not easy; however all I did was use public information that is available to all of us, but very difficult to obtain and learn how to use on your own.

This service is not going to jump off a cliff for you or hold your hand as you let yourself drown; it is greatly dependent upon how well you are able to interpret researched material and follow directions (if you need help you can write them emails and they help). If you cannot follow specific and strict directions (including remaining confident throughout the end no matter what), then you might as well have lost before you even started you have to be willing to fight for yourself in order to find anything helpful, you can't be lazy about it.

In any event, I can write to everyone until I get carpal tunnel about how legitimate this company has been throughout my experience and how they made me successful, but personally I don't care whether or not you utilize their services. Just don't lie and chew them out for something they did not do. They are the coach that will get you to the Super Bowl and hand you the blue-prints to an automatic victory, but it is up to you (the player) to execute the fail-proof plan!

This is just a suggestion, why not place a complaint with your state attorney general, based on the lack of contact info and refund policy disclosure PRIOR to being a paying customer. I know in ny you are required to provide contact, refund, and TOS/T&C before paying. I believe that not providing that info ON REQUEST (such as on this site by alma) is a violation.

TO david:

Even PORN site disclose their info. What are YOU HIDING?

This David Ross or Race is a scammer.

What you can do is file complaints. www.bbb.org check the local number, 18773824357 www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/ ,www.fcc.gov/, PayPal Customer Service: 1-402-935-2050 if you have an account, www.ic3.gov.( this is for internet sites only)

His contact info is info@speedticketbeaters.com
His phone number is and 818 LA/Studio City number but the Toll free number is 1-866-357-5042.

Because this guy is on the internet it's harder to file complaints.

He sent me information and then when I declined his service I got more emails. Now look what he thinks he can do.
RE: Your threat to contact the FTC and report this company for harassment:

In the future, before you make such threats and allegations, it would be advisable that you learn the law.

a) If an individual contacts a company as you did this one, that company has 6 months to follow up with that individual as many times as necessary. There is no basis for your claim of harassment.

b) It is quite well documented over this company's 5 (Five) year clean business history, that this company is doing legitimate business. Your "opinion" that this company is an illegitimate company, does not make it so. Furthermore, hundreds of current and satisfied customers, would strongly disagree with you.

c) Be advised that it is against U.S law to damage a company or individuals reputation in the community with a reckless disregard for the truth. It is also against U.S law to use a company's copyrighted name in published/written/broadcast content without permission to do so. Neither of those offenses are protected "free speech" under the 1st Amendment of the U.S Constitution.

Any harmful written content authored with your involvement appearing anywhere in print - will be considered malicious business interference, and defamation. Any broadcast content in any media, created with any involvement by you, will be considered the same. Any complaints made by you to any agency or organizations (including the FTC), that result in any limitation on our ability to conduct business, will also be considered legally actionable. Likewise, any activities/complaints/reports written or stated to any businesses we are regularly involved with in our commerce, will result in swift and strong legal action against you.

Should we become aware of you participating in any of the above activities, legal remedies will be pursued
immediately and forcefully.

You are also to refrain from authoring and/or broadcasting any partial reference to this company. Any you write will be presumed to have been designed to lead the general public to the conclusion that you are referring to this company. This means we will litigate against you if you write or broadcast even a portion of this company's name, at any time, anywhere.

All of your contact information will remain on file, should it become necessary to take legal action against you.

Should you violate this order, this company will also commence a civil action against the print/internet/or broadcast outlet you utilized to carry out your malicious interference and defamation. This department will also offer the print/internet/or broadcast outlet you utilized to damage this company the opportunity to enjoin our civil and/or criminal action against you.

Your letter today will serve as proof to any Judge in the United States of the malicious nature of your intent. Should it become necessary, we will obtain jurisdiction over you in any of the 50 U.S States in which you reside. If necessary, we will pursue a court order to collect sizable monetary damages from you. If you do not have sufficient assets to satisfy the monetary judgment we will be awarded, we will get a court order to garnish your future wages.

Consider this notice a "cease and desist" upon you, relating to all further contact, complaints, and activities you are considering undertaking. Failure to comply with this notice will bring you legal harm.

From this day forward, any further contact with this company must be made by your attorneys. Only the contact of your attorneys will be acceptable hence forth. All other contact or attempts at contact will be considered a violation of this notice. Should such violations occur, they may be used against you in court at a later date.

Speedticketbeaters.com/LEGAL
cc: dr, sk, open & pending

I filed my reports on here and with the Better Business Bureau then I got This:
January 12, 2009

On January 8, 2009 you were notified that you are to cease all contact with this company. Additionally, you were notified that you were to refrain from publishing any comment on this company anywhere in the public domain. You were also notified that you are to refrain from publishing any of our copyrighted materials in the public domain.

It has come to our attention that you have violated all of the aforementioned demands. In doing so, you have violated numerous federal laws regarding malicious business interference, the publication of copyrighted materials, and defamation.

As a result of your action, we have filed a civil suit against you.

This notice is to advise you that you have an appearance scheduled for February 3, 2009 in California Circuit court.

We will be collecting damages in the amount of $150,500 from your bank account/s. If you do not have sufficient funds available we will garnish your future wages, and/or take a lien on any property you own.

The court has asked us to again remind you that you have the option to settle this lawsuit in advance of the above date. The court will consider any settlement a satisfaction of judgment. The court has requested we allow a settlement of $1500 to suffice. You may remit that payment via PayPal before January 29, 2009 to avoid further penalties. An invoice will be re-sent today.

If you fail to remit (or have no intention of remitting) the settlement payment, you should have your attorneys contact this office immediately.

SpeedTicketBeaters.com/Legal
cc: dr, sk, court mandate

Clearly this guy has some tenacity. Don't let him scare you. If you get and "email summons" Laugh. This is him trying to scare you. Paypal doesn't deal with STATE COURT SETTLEMENTS!

This guy is a joke, and he has made it very clear. Who goes on vacation and plays on the internet arguing with people?

Can we please do something about this guy?

I bought into Speed Ticket Beaters almost a year ago and still use it to this day, so when I saw this negative feedback about their services I felt compelled to set the record straight on the following issues:

As for the loud obnoxious caller from Speed Ticket Beaters comment, Speed Ticket Beaters is not just an online service, they will call you and inform you of their services when you make a request or inquiry. However, for the most part they appear to prefer to communicate through email, which is fine with me because they respond promptly. I was not pressured into buying into any gimmicks or anything when they called either, they simply informed me that they had received my email and that I should remain confident in their services. So I don't know why someone would want to complain about a call from a company that provides such good communication and services like that, how many other companies give you a call when you email them? This alone should put the entire it's a scam mantra that was sung to rest however I will continue.

In addition to the constant and prompt communication (this includes their handling of all of my questions and emails thoroughly), I was given a lot of useful resources. Honestly, you could not imagine these types of resources without dishing out any kind of money to gather them anyway, so in a way I feel it is well worth it, heck it simplifies it because essentially, all I did is hire someone to look up resources for me and help me understand them.

I was not treated like an idiot, yet I was encouraged to stay confident even the services being rendered to me appeared to be questionable. All I can say is that a very small percentage of people would be able to get through what I've gotten through if it weren't for Speed Ticket Beaters. I had everything against me and my back was against the wall. Obviously, I was surprised to have been able to utilize these resources successfully, but I did, even when I was getting laughed at by my opposing critiques. In the end, I got the last laugh and I was so surprised that I have the official documentation laminated and hung on my wall as proof! To this day I still get other people asking me how in the world I got out of my particular predicament, because it was not easy; however all I did was use public information that is available to all of us, but very difficult to obtain and learn how to use on your own.

This service is not going to jump off a cliff for you or hold your hand as you let yourself drown; it is greatly dependent upon how well you are able to interpret researched material and follow directions (if you need help you can write them emails and they help). If you cannot follow specific and strict directions (including remaining confident throughout the end no matter what), then you might as well have lost before you even started you have to be willing to fight for yourself in order to find anything helpful, you can't be lazy about it.

In any event, I can write to everyone until I get carpal tunnel about how legitimate this company has been throughout my experience and how they made me successful, but personally I don't care whether or not you utilize their services. Just don't lie and chew them out for something they did not do. They are the coach that will get you to the Super Bowl and hand you the blue-prints to an automatic victory, but it is up to you (the player) to execute the fail-proof plan!

Ripped Off By David, we sooooo need to know how that "lawsuit" is coming along? Am I right to assume it was a bluff?

***
I'm surprised that SpeedTicketBeaters has attorneys, yet the CEO failed to ask them if you could sue someone for making negative comments about your business.

I thought this was too good to be true and I was right. I was suckered into this by a phone call in response to my initial inquiry. The fellow on the other end was abrupt and rude and this sounded like one of those calls one might get from bookies in Vegas. What scared me into doing this, and I am embarrassed to say I fell for it, was his assertion that one ticket on my record would raise my insurance rates by about $1000 for the next three years. Saw the money back guarantee and thought I could risk itshould have read the terms and understood how much it would cost to go through that whole process.
To get the refund one must file an appeal upon losing the first case. What you may not know is that there is an appeal bond required. So I would have put up $500 bond to appeal the case and if I lost then in addition to paying the original ticket I would also lose the $500 bondall that to get a refund from these guys. That is the fine print that they count on you not understanding.
I found this out the hard way. Don't you do it too. The info you get from these guys is available out there freejust have to look for it. Their case hinges on Judicial Notice and their research is grossly inadequate. Don't show up in a Texas court with their assertion that there is not judicial notice for laser in Texasthere isand there does not have to be in the first place. All it takes is one time that it gets used, right or wrong, and not contested to have it become president.
The cop did not show up to my first trial and the judge granted continuance for him. I told these guys about that and all they could say was

IT ABSOLUTELY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AN INSTANT DISMISSAL. THE JUDGE IS A TOTAL a*s. YOU ARE VERY CLEARLY DEALING WITH A CROOKED/CORRUPT COUNTY.

WHAT U.S STATE IS IT?

This is just what everyone above describes and what you get. I love how he asked me what state I was inI thought I went over that in the beginning?
Save your money and take defensive driving if you have the chance. This is a total rip off. If you want to try it free then look up into on Tipmrathis is the same info and can be had free. Same info that did not work I should add but you are into it for nothing and I suppose it could work if you get the right courtAustin, Texas is not the right court!

I wont make this easy for you but if you can figure out a way to contact me I will give you all my links to the info they provide that is free from the www and just takes time and paitence to find on your own. Nothing they provide is out of your reach.

I live in a small town in Oregon. In the past year I have been ticketed by the same officer. In both cases I questioned what my Rights were under the law. I new I needed more insight in my case than I then had so the search began. I studied and inquired with many sources ending with speedticketbeaters.com.

I simply requested the information they had to add to my new found knowledge.
As a result of personal study and preperation I found I could navigate through the court proceedings with confidence. I was always respectful to the officer and our legal system while stating my case as instructed by speedticketbeaters.
The judge on several occations stated that I was very well prepared. At the conclusion of my trial the judge wanted to recess to discuss this case with the District Atterney's Office. I raised my hand and objected. I stated to the Judge that I am here today prepared. "It's not my problem that the prosecutor is not prepared. I ask for you to judge this case with the information provided today."

The judge agreed with me and dismissed the case stating that this documentation will be handed to the D.A. so they can be better prepared for the next time someone comes in as prepared.

I have referred many family members and friends to speedticketbeaters and will continue to do so. I also advise them to study and be prepared other wise they may only look stupid.

Thank you

Mr. Prepared

I have been contacted by speed ticket beaters legal dept saying they are filing suit against me for my post here on Ripoff reports. Beware saying anything they don't agree with will bring about legal ramifications apparently! Sad these people act in this manner.

I am the original poster of this complaint blog. I have just read what Justin put and I agree 100%. It was soooo embarassing trying to defend myself, the court did think I was a joke even though I was well prepared and I highly doubt it if this lame a*s company offered even a single person a refund.

I have had three interactions with SPEEDTICKETBEATERS.COM and every time they are rude as hell! I received a ticket a couple days ago and contacted the company that I used unsuccessively in 2006. I tried using their techniques but in the end the court basically laughed at me. They could care less what I had to say or case law. It was the cop was right. PERIOD. SPEEDTICKETBEATERS.COM simply calls all of them CORRUPT and says I failed in every way!

Where is the customer service here? What company talks like crap to a customer and expects good feedback?

Here are actual copies of emails received from SPEEDTICKETBEATERS.COM, you judge for yourself:

A) YOU ARE NOT REFUND ELIGIBLE FOR LAST TIME. WHEN WE SEE A TRANSCRIPT OF YOUR 2 COURT APPEARANCES AND EXAMINE IT, ONLY THEN DO WE EVEN BEGIN TO START EVALUATING YOUR REFUND ELIGIBILITY. THERE IS A 99 PERCENT CHANCE YOU LOST PREVIOUSLY THROUGH YOUR OWN ERRORS!

1 - WHY DO YOU WANT US TO PROVIDE YOU ANOTHER "LOSING" DEFENSE?

2 - COULD IT BE BECUASE YOU REALIZE WE HAD THE LAW RIGHT LAST TIME, AND THE LOSS WASN'T OUR FAULT (BUT WAS EITHER YOURS OR A CORRUPT JUDGES)?

IF THE ANSWER TO NUMBER 2 IS YES, AND YOU WRITE BACK THAT YOU ARE DROPPING NY CLAIM TO A REFUND FOR THE LAST CASE, OR THIS ONE COMING UP...WE WILL THEN PROVIDE YOU A DEFENSE FOR THIS ONE.

SPEEDTICKETBEATERS.COM

What I had sent them to start!

> -------- Original Message --------
> WebAddress - Previous customer
> Comments - I have used you before and the last time I lost and was convicted. I even appealed it and lost. I know you offer a money back gaurantee. But rather I received another speeding ticket on the interstate last night. He claimed he used a Radar but my detector never went off and when I asked to see the speed on the radar he responded that he didn't save/lock the speed. I don't believe he used Radar at all and I know I wasn't going as fast as he claims. Please let me know if you can assist with this rather than refund me for losing the last time.

I responded to them and this is what they sent back AGAIN being rude!:

THIS COMPANY DOES NOT LOSE WHEN THE CUSTOMER FOLLOWS THE DEFENSE PLAN PROPERLY. CLEARLY (FROM THIS EMAIL) YOU DID NOT! IF JUDGES SIMPLY IGNORE THE MATERIALS WE PROVIDE, WHY/HOW DO WE WIN EVERY DAY DOZENS OF TIMES IN ALL 50 STATES?

RE-READ THE ENTIRE INSTRUCTIONS PAGE (ESPECIALLY NUMBER 25 BELOW):

25) Understand this: THE WHOLE TRAFFIC COURT SYSTEM IS CORRUPT! The Judges, Prosecutors, and Police are instructed to steal your money by the cities! We have given you the correct laws of the U.S. The Judge (and others) may argue with you. They may insist that you have the law wrong, etc. You do not! They are simply that committed to stealing your money! They will say and do anything! Do not fall for it! Do not back down and start believing them if they say you have it wrong! You will eventually prevail. Even if it takes until the end of an appeal hearing.

YOU LOST BECAUSE YOU FAILED TO ASSERT THAT YOU WERE CORRECT, YOU FAILED TO ASSERT YOUR LEGAL RIGHT TO AN APPEAL (IT IS NOT ALLOWED UNDER U.S LAW TO BE THEIR DECISION), AND YOU DID NOT TAKE THAT APPEAL HEARING AND GO IN WITH A WRITTEN APPEAL DEFENSE 9WHICH WE COULD HAVE PROVIDED)!

THERE WILL BE NO "FREE" DEFENSE PROVIDED UNTIL YOU UNDERSTAND THE IDIOCY OF THE EMAIL YOU HAVE WRITTEN US.

SPEEDTICKETBEATERS.COM


> -------- Original Message --------

> To: info@speedticketbeaters.com
>
> A) Obtaining transcripts are inconvenient as I live over 200 miles away from
> the court. I can't just pop in and request a copy. Additionally I used your
> defense as stated with copies of speed surveys etc... and the judge didn't
> care. I even provided the case law you used and the judge didn't care. The
> appeal process is one that you submit a reason why you should have an appeal
> and then the judge reviews and decides whether or not to approve another
> hearing. After 6 months of the request for an appeal was submitted the judge
> declined my request. I was so frustrated with this whole thing I didn't want
> to go through additional burden to contact you for a refund.
>
> 1. As you claim on all your correspondence you have won thousands of cases.
> So far I've used you for 2 cases and been unsuccessful. But hey, I can't
> afford another ticket on my license and driving school isn't an option.
>
> 2. Your defense as creative as it was still was ignored by the court. The
> judge basically laughed at me using this info. So whether you had the law
> right or not is irrelevant when a judge won't even consider it. In the mean
> time I had to pay the citation and after the first hearing and lost I still
> got the points and a suspended license out of it.
>
> Again, I'm coming to you for help and all you do is criticize me? I had this
> problem last time dealing with you, your customer service sucks! All you do
> is point fingers and say it was my fault or everyone else's fault. But no
> way could it be that your defense was off! Get off your high horse and treat
> me like a customer! Yep I screwed up and got a ticket, you advertise to
> offer a service to help but when I contact you, your rude, belligerent and
> accusatory!
>
> Try being nice for a change!
>
> Justin

Well, here is my opinion. Bear in mind, I only have YEARS of real-world experience in internet & online business, I have worked as an internet security consultant, successfully putting a few scam artists behind bars - but hey, what do I know? I have read through this entire thread, and I although I cannot attest to whether this online company's 'services' are legitimate (seriously, I wouldn't waste my time and money), this is not a company I would EVER recommend to ANYONE for a few personal reasons:

1. The lack of disclosure of company information. Huge red flag. This is basic common sense, people. This "David" fellow sure has gone out of his way to keep his company's identity a secret. Why? Why would *any* legitimate business do this? He claims it is to combat 'harassment' from authorities...bull. I don't buy that for a second, and you shouldn't either. David is telling us that a business that employs LAWYERS would run away with its tail between its legs in a case of overt police harassment? Which leaves one to openly wonder: does David LIVE in this country? If the LA police had harassed a LEGITIMATE company that employed REAL lawyers, you wouldn't be able to see through the smoke being emitted by said lawyers, filing hundreds of motions against the department within the hour. The lawyers would be on the local P.D. like white on rice. David's logic does not compute.

2. Their business practices are the practices of typical scammers. They have ZERO information about the business on their website. No legitimate company (I.E. a company with nothing to hide) does this. Period. I set up small businesses with new websites all the time. The key is to put out as much info. as you can so that clients will find you and (hopefully) bring you business! If said businesses don't have a brick-and-mortar store, they AT LEAST use a P.O. box, or home address. 99% Of the time, they supply a PHONE NUMBER for perspective clients to call them with (see: their competition). It's basic business strategy, folks. This website utilizes the EXACT OPPOSITE of this strategy - it's almost akin to the Nigerian email scammers.

'What? You say I can get your company info. only AFTER I pay you/sign up for your 'services', realistically giving your company all of the leverage to SPAM ME with endless email/phone calls, or possibly SCREW ME and take my money if I choose to sign up without any inkling of knowledge as to who it is ive been screwed by? Well, WHERE DO I SIGN UP?' Stupid.

3. The fact that this so-called 'company' (likely run from the basement of some 20-somethings parent's house) has a (ha ha) "tech team". I am a web developer, and I consider myself darn good one (toot toot..:)). I work for a media company, and aside from administering core newspaper sites, I develop/administer websites for over 50 different small business clients any given day BY MYSELF. This site looks like it was built in 1994. I could have built a better, more comprehensive website than speedticketbeaters.com over my lunch break. I've seen better websites on angelfire. My 13 year old nephew has a better eye for design than the 'webmaster' for speedticketbeaters.com. Need I go on?

4. Surprise! The 'information' you're paying for, likely supplied by this 'company' is FREE OF CHARGE! You can get this magical information by simply using...surprise again!...the internet! expertlaw.com has a whole library devoted to helping you fight a speeding ticket - and it won't cost you a dime.

You can thank me later.

Well, here is my opinion. Bear in mind, I only have YEARS of real-world experience in internet & online business, I have worked as an internet security consultant, successfully putting a few scam artists behind bars - but hey, what do I know? I have read through this entire thread, and I although I cannot attest to whether this online company's 'services' are legitimate (seriously, I wouldn't waste my time and money), this is not a company I would EVER recommend to ANYONE for a few personal reasons:

1. The lack of disclosure of company information. Huge red flag. This is basic common sense, people. This "David" fellow sure has gone out of his way to keep his company's identity a secret. Why? Why would *any* legitimate business do this? He claims it is to combat 'harassment' from authorities...bull. I don't buy that for a second, and you shouldn't either. David is telling us that a business that employs LAWYERS would run away with its tail between its legs in a case of overt police harassment? Which leaves one to openly wonder: does David LIVE in this country? If the LA police had harassed a LEGITIMATE company that employed REAL lawyers, you wouldn't be able to see through the smoke being emitted by said lawyers, filing hundreds of motions against the department within the hour. The lawyers would be on the local P.D. like white on rice. David's logic does not compute.

2. Their business practices are the practices of typical scammers. They have ZERO information about the business on their website. No legitimate company (I.E. a company with nothing to hide) does this. Period. I set up small businesses with new websites all the time. The key is to put out as much info. as you can so that clients will find you and (hopefully) bring you business! If said businesses don't have a brick-and-mortar store, they AT LEAST use a P.O. box, or home address. 99% Of the time, they supply a PHONE NUMBER for perspective clients to call them with (see: their competition). It's basic business strategy, folks. This website utilizes the EXACT OPPOSITE of this strategy - it's almost akin to the Nigerian email scammers.

'What? You say I can get your company info. only AFTER I pay you/sign up for your 'services', realistically giving your company all of the leverage to SPAM ME with endless email/phone calls, or possibly SCREW ME and take my money if I choose to sign up without any inkling of knowledge as to who it is ive been screwed by? Well, WHERE DO I SIGN UP?' Stupid.

3. The fact that this so-called 'company' (likely run from the basement of some 20-somethings parent's house) has a (ha ha) "tech team". I am a web developer, and I consider myself darn good one (toot toot..:)). I work for a media company, and aside from administering core newspaper sites, I develop/administer websites for over 50 different small business clients any given day BY MYSELF. This site looks like it was built in 1994. I could have built a better, more comprehensive website than speedticketbeaters.com over my lunch break. I've seen better websites on angelfire. My 13 year old nephew has a better eye for design than the 'webmaster' for speedticketbeaters.com. Need I go on?

4. Surprise! The 'information' you're paying for, likely supplied by this 'company' is FREE OF CHARGE! You can get this magical information by simply using...surprise again!...the internet! expertlaw.com has a whole library devoted to helping you fight a speeding ticket - and it won't cost you a dime.

You can thank me later.

Gee we have it all here. A CEO that won't give information except to paying customers. Possibility of giving legal advise without a license. A businessman that says on 01-25-2007 that he won't post again, and then posts 8 more times. But we're supposed to trust his word on his product. Veiled allusions to states. counties, cities not being able to establish/enforce laws (wonder if CEO has a website to help me not pay my income tax). And outright refusals to answer specific questions.

Since David won't give us any information I have just one request. Jes if by chance you are still monitoring this post would you consider sharing this "great legal defense" that David sells. I mean since you unfortunately paid for it it should be yours to do with as you see fit. Hope to hear from you soon.

David,

I have worked with thousands of business CEO's through entrepreneur's. You seem to have alot of time on your hands to respond. You should spend your time in a more productive role. For a CEO I only see a lot of blah blah blah'ing going on.

Perhaps you could direct your time at solving customer complaint issues on lack of promised services.

My brother Michael is a lawyer. He and about 10 other lawyers write all the defense stuff they sell. They are just the distributors of defenses written by my bro and other guys.

So I can tell you for sure they are not doing law without a license. They are selling law info that lawyers wrote for them.

Kel :)

I know that this was suggested in at least one previous rebuttal, but I thought I would go ahead and bring it back to the table.

Unless David is an attorney licensed to practice law in EVERY state in which he does business, it looks to me like he is practicing law without a license. This suspicion is confirmed by an above remark:

"I submitted case laws from California because that's all I was provided with and it said if the judge objects they were from California you were supposed to tell them that it doesn't matter because all the states follow the same rules and I did all of this."

NO LAWYER IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD SEND A CLIENT IN WITH A BUNCH OF EXTRA-JURISDICTIONAL CASE LAW, AND TELL THEM TO "ADVISE" THE JUDGE THAT IT'S STILL GOOD LAW!

This guy is not an attorney. He may have spoken to a few cops, lawyers, etc. He may have even used his plan to get out of one of his own speeding tickets. But he is not qualified to dispense legal advice (which is EXACTLY what he's doing).

I would advise all of the victims of this operation to file a complaint with your state's bar association and attorney general. If this fella's giving you a hard time with a refund, file a small claims suit in your local court. Ask for damages in the amount of the fine ultimately paid, for the money you paid him, and for the cost of maintaining the action.

This is presumptively a scam. Stay away from this operation.

Being a skeptic has advantages. First, you begin your inquiries with doubt and then search for the truth. The result will be one of two things: 1. your suspicions are confirmed and the company / product is a fraud or 2. your suspicions are dissolved and the truth is revealed.

My name is Todd S. I was a skeptic about whether speedticketbeaters.com would actually work. I took a step of faith and signed up. I was impressed beyond what I'll be able to articulate in this endorsement.

I received a ticket for 75mph in a 55mph zone in Salinas, CA on a two lane highway. Speedticketbeaters.com provided me with a detailed defense, case law, and a very detailed script to follow in regard to communicating with the court through the written and spoken word. Very impressive, very thoroughly, and very professional.

I did exactly what they told me. Speedticketbeaters.com responded to my inquiries via email and phone in a very expeditious manner. I obtained the traffic engineering reports and prepared my case as instructed. I had about 10 friends that were going to attend my court date and they were all wagering that I would not be able to beat this ticket. I was confident I would, could, and should prevail based on the thorough preparation
Speedticketbeaters.com provided.

To make a long story short, the case was dismissed. I was elated. My friends were amazed and my faith, belief, trust, and confidence in laboring under correct knowledge was further affirmed.

Speedticketbeaters.com is the real deal. You need to do EXACTLY what they tell you. If so, you will prevail. If not, the onus is on you for failing to trust their proven system of defenses.

I am a real person, responding in a real way, to a really valuable service. I guesstimate this ticket has saved me hundreds if not thousands of dollars by simply heeding their counsel.

I like skeptics. I was one. Skeptics become the best converts. My interaction was Speedticketbeaters.com has been first rate. I now trust their system, their format, and their detailed process for fighting tickets. It works. Their staff is responsive, confident, and direct in how to beat your ticket.

I am elated that the truth with this company has been revealed in spades. It is fun being a believer. The truth really does set you free.

An elated customer--

I took a look online and found this report after being rather irritated by a phone call from Speed Ticket Beaters.

My situation:
I recently received a speeding ticket under somewhat questionable circumstances that I won't blather on about here. I looked up some information online to see what the facts were about the issue and came upon this website. Intrigued, I decided to send in my details for a "free evaluation". By evaluation, I expected someone to contact me and give me a general idea of weather or not they thought this case was winnable and an allusion to what they thought the point(s) of contention was/were.

Instead, I got a load of pre-cooked marketing info with generic figures of how much money this would cost me if I didn't pay them immediately etc... So, with the fee being charged by the City being only about $50 less then my ticket, and with them having no knowledge of who my insurance company is or what rate changes may/may not apply, I decided not to use the service.

I received a call from the same 818 number listed above asking me why I did not use the service after receiving the ALL CAPS SPAM EMAILS WITH GENERIC MARKETING MATERIALS. It had occurred to me after deciding not to use the service that the time I would have to take off of work, the money I would spend driving to the courthouse, and the blood price of parking would actually exceed the generic, shot in the dark, figure that was given to me. So I told him that I simply couldn't spare the time to go to court on this and was about to ask for further information on the company so I could refer them to my friends who might use their services in the future, if they were legit. However, the jerk on the other end cut me off mid sentence, yelled at me that I had just lost a fortune, called me an idiot, then hung up.

After this experience, as well as several observations from reading this site have driven me to the conclusion that this is indeed a scam. To that end, I establish this list of issues I must raise:

1.) In regards to my situation, no legitimate business with the kind of success this man claims to be having would have someone get that caustic, rude, insulting, and outright emotional over someone not choosing to use their service. If they are really as well off and successful as they claim, why so angry when I use my right to CHOOSE not to use their service? Wouldn't you try to discuss the situation, alleviate some concerns, explain how they could have helped me, ask for referrals and future business etc... rather then insulting me out of ignorance and hanging up in an oddly out of place rage?

2.) It is interesting, in this thread, David Ross (CEO) makes a variety of elusive claims regarding legal expertise when questioned about his authority to provide legal advice. Eventually, it is openly asserted that Mr. Ross is not a lawyer himself, but does claim to have staff members who are lawyers and presumably, they are the ones who are providing their legal expertise to research these laws and help design these defenses.

However, I direct you to the following quote directly from their web page. "Even though >>...We know from > exactly what you will need..."

According to their own website, 'those' who are assembling your defense are admittedly NOT LAWYERS! This seems to contradict Mr. Ross' earlier assertion that their staff does include lawyers. In fact he states, "Obviously our defense strategies were created by lawyers!" on 1/25/2007 5:45:11 PM. Strange that his site makes no mention of the fact that these strategies were crafted by true legal professionals, but rather makes an obvious point of informing visitors that "WE ARE NOT LAWYERS"! And that the cases they build are based upon their personal "experience".

3.) The whole issue of IMAGE. I will list problems that bring questions to their legitimacy.

- Unprofessional and discourteous phone calls.

- A cheap and poorly constructed website.

- Low quality logos for payment mediums etc...

- Presence of "is this a scam" page which uses anything but the most obvious and effective method for proving your legitimacy. Something that you clearly claim here, but deny on the site itself. That this company is staffed by real lawyers who know traffic law and help create these defenses. (So which is it? Do real lawyers make these defenses or not?)

- Domain by Proxy. (Arguably, not suspicious inherently, but less then reassuring given further issues listed below.)

- Vague and unverifiable testimonials.

- Statements that the site has been publicized on radio and television: without any evidence of such, lacking quotes from such mediums listed in the testimonials, absence of evidence that such publicity (if true and correct) come from reputable or verifiable sources, or any audio or video media of such "unrequested" advertising as most reputable companies make every effort to utilize.

- Lack of any contact information by way of address or the registration of the company with its' incorporating State.

- Names of the legal professionals that are claimed to be the formulators of these defenses are not provided. (contrary to statements made on their website that they are not lawyers, and their arguments come from experience, not legal education.)

- Claims of harassment by law enforcement forcing them to change to a Domain by Proxy to avoid this. [this seems strange for several reasons in the subsection:]

Sub. A. I find it unlikely that law enforcement would harass a legitimate business with lawyers on staff. After all, harassment is illegal and an office full of lawyers could make that a really bad move for the local PD.

Sub B. Furthermore, if these are real lawyers and real, perfectly legal defenses, then harassment by the Police is a serious allegation. They are attempting to interfere with the rights of citizens to legal council, maliciously hindering the legal operation of a business, and by extension of attempting to prevent legally sound and admissible defenses from being used in a court of law, by way of intimidation, they are also guilt of obstruction of justice. This is a criminal act and a very serious allegation. Either you are a CEO who lied to us about your reasons for not posting an address and merely fabricated a response to appease the crowd, or you are a Con artist who is accusing (depending on where you claim your offices were previously) the Studio City, California Police Department of some serious criminal offenses. Either way, you have some explaining to do, and could be in some hot water for it.

Sub C. Stretching the limits of our reasoning to accommodate the remote and pathetic circumstances that would have forced your offices to move and conceal themselves to avoid Police harassment, which the lawyers we are supposed to trust with our defense were too inept to effectively combat, I have a difficult time believing that such a corrupt and intimidating Police Department, which obviously is willing to waste the resources and manpower to terrorize your office, would not invest the few minutes of time it would take for them to search the internet and determine that your site still exists, thereafter locating you and continuing their intimidation.

- Statements that only people who have already given this website their money are entitled to basic proofs of the companies' legitimacy.

- The last one is less of a point brought up by this discussion and more of an observation...
* Any legitimate legal service that claims to be able to get people out of these sort of situations usually goes out of their way to design a professional looking website, display their credentials and BAR Certifications, give clear and obvious proof that they have a legitimate office location, and providing information from the Commerce Department of the State that incorporated them showing their date of incorporation as proof of how long they have been in business. Many law firms claim to specialize in getting people out of taxes due, IRS audits, etc... and publicize themselves openly on TV etc... without being harassed into hiding by the Federal Government, or local agencies that stand to profit greatly from getting that money, and to lose greatly by those lawyers finding the legal loopholes.

* Your website, despite claims of profitability, looks very cheap and questionable. You specifically state that you are NOT LAWYERS. Yet here you claim that you do have lawyers on staff that are, "Obviously... created by lawyers!", which brings your credibility further into question when we see that no credentials, names, or BAR Certifications are provided here or on the site. Further, you try greatly to prove the length of your companies' existence with your domain registration history. Why not provide proof of incorporation by the California Department of Commerce? Further, how is it that such a revolutionary and successful service as yours is not growing like wildfire from all the referrals and repeat business you should be getting? You should have loads of cash to buy TV spots etc... to get the word out about your legitimate and completely legal services. Instead, law enforcement prays upon only you while leaving other law offices that specialize in getting citizens out of millions owed, for taxes from things to numerous to mention, alone.

Somehow, it just doesn't add up.

If I am dead wrong, and this is a legitimate business, it seems to me that your counterproductive company P.R. and advertisement devisions are really hurting the titanic profit potential of your business. You could really use my assistance in consultation of how you can improve your public image and customer base considerably.

Finally, a word of warning that I hope is unnecessary. If that rude telemarketer that called me earlier harasses me, or your website spams my email account for posting this, you WILL be dealt with. I am capable of dealing with harassment much more effectively then your "lawyers" are apparently able to. I too have "Zero Tolerance".

Good day,

- Alex

Years ago late one night Microsoft's web site went black. The entire World was put to wonder what happened to Microsoft. A very nice guy checked their domain status with Netsol and found it had expired. A clerk at Microsoft failed to pay the $35.00 renewal bill (which would have been $8.00 with GoDaddy). This very nice gentleman paid the $35.00 using his own credit card and Microsoft went live once again. The poor guy had to fight Microsoft to get his $35.00 back!

Microsoft at that point realized what a terrible operation Netsol was running and moved the registration to another registrar. Yes, Microsoft screwed up big time but Microsoft being Microsoft don't you think Netsol could have made a phone call? Or left the domain remain active while they sorted out the problem? That was a huge account to lose, they (Netsol) have been going backwards ever since.

Now Microsoft uses TUCOWS INC. utilizing proxy services to keep their reg info private.

Speed Ticket Beaters is an example of a company in hiding. The rest of us use proxy to protect ourselves and our networks from the bad guys.

Regards,

Hi Terry,

Steve is clueless, he just does not get it. If he had a clue he would know something about Domains by Proxy and the GoDaddy Company. He spews out this stuff based on his own beliefs and never any facts.

He is an expert on everything, now he is the ROR expert on domains, DNS and GoDaddy. We moved well over 200+ domains in total away from Netsol which provided an instant savings of well over $5,000.00 per year to our clients and ourselves just like yourself. Using proxy services by Domains by Proxy we cut the junk mail by 75%, WHILE STILL PROVIDING ALL COMPANY AND PUBLIC CONTACT INFO to the site viewers.

GoDaddy: Company Facts, The world's largest hostname provider. More than 19.4 million domain names under management. Approximately 4 million customers.

Netsol is a dead dinosaur, they are cooked, put a fork in them. They called us a month after we moved the last domain away from them. They said you were a Gold V.I.P. account and you will loose your status if you don't move the domains back to Netsol! They even offered an under the table "special discount program". You can guess how the rest of the conversation went.

Steve will continue to spew his advice on all subjects to the unsuspecting. He will continue to be condescending and put people down when they have problems. And I'm sure he will come back and reply to this post once again with some lame attempt to tell the World why Netsol is the best choice for domain registrations. O'h well, we know what we know. "GoDaddy is the world's largest hostname provider".

I can appreciate the views you have both have expressed. However, IMAGE is everything in business. That's why no large, successful , REPUTABLE businesses use GoDaddy.

GoDaddy enables spammers and scammers. That's a fact. That is their IMAGE.

Everytime I am tracking down a spammer or scammer, the domain registration comes back as private, usually GoDaddy.

Therefore, I will not do business with anyone who hosts their domain with GoDaddy.

I too, have owned many domains and was involved in online business from the time the internet was new. And, FYI..Terry..I'm not some kid as you implied. I am probably older and wiser than you.

However, I always did regular registration with all of my contact info readily available, as I had nothing to hide. The spammers are very easy to stop. You can tag your email on these registrations with prefixes such as NOSPAM, etc which stops the harvesting.

I DO know quite a bit about this subject, so Dennis Ray, your attempt to put me down was futile.

Dennis,

I would guess that your follow up with additional knowledge for the not a lawyer kid is as was mine...an exercise in futility. People like him cannot accept facts even when they are laid out in black and white right in front of them.

What I do find almost hilarious is the way he tries to cast a cloud over a stand up company like Godaddy.

As you know, Godaddy brought domain pricing to a fair level for all companies and individuals, while busting the pillaging being done by Network Solutions and Tucows.

Bob Parsons built his company from a late starter (1997) in the registrar game to the largest registrar in the world by slashing the registration prices that NS and Tucows were raping us with.

Before Godaddy, I was paying $100 PER DOMAIN registration fees! After Godaddy got into the fray we were paying LESS THAN $10 in a very short period of time!

AFTER years of spammers using our information to clog our email, we finally had a solution with proxy registrations which he led the way with.

Many of the "big" companies that the kid refers to registered with NS and Tucows for 10 years when they registered between 93 and 97. That is the prime reason they are not using Godaddy. It wasn't in business when they registered. I doubt that he is aware of that either.

I just hope this kid never starts a business in which he gives guarantees. The one he gives here was debunked by you instantly.

He stated: "Go look at the domain registration of any big successful business website. I can guarantee that you will NOT find one that uses GoDaddy, or any other private registration service."

I had a good belly laugh when you posted the private registration of the LARGEST software company in the world.

I did a quick look for a couple of the largest businesses in their catagory and found that both Schwab.com and Oracle.com, (The largest stock brokerage and the largest database companies in the world)also have private registrations....

So much for his guarantee, huh. He will probably rationalize why somehow he is still correct in his wildly ill-conceived perceptions. Maybe he will try to convince us that these companies do not meet his definition of "big successful business website"

Lastly, a few words from this article from Fox News last month...

"ICANN Weighs Anonymizing Domain-Name Registrations
Wednesday, March 21, 2007

NEW YORK Many owners of Internet addresses face this quandary: Provide your real contact information when you register a domain name and subject yourself to junk or harassment. Or enter fake data and risk losing it outright.

Help may be on the way as a key task force last week endorsed a proposal that would give more privacy options to small businesses, individuals with personal Web sites and other domain name owners........

At issue is a publicly available database known as Whois. With it, anyone can find out the full names, organizations, postal and e-mail addresses and phone numbers behind domain names.

Hearings on the changes are expected next week in Lisbon, Portugal, before the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers, or ICANN, the main oversight agency for Internet addresses."

Hmmmm...Isn't that what you and I iterated here?

Anyway, I was really only going to give you a quick cudos for your post...Sorry I got carried away. Unfortunately I have a tendency to do that.

Take care Dennis...Good luck with your business!

No, i did not wear a halter top to court. As I wrote above. I am so sure. I didn't have an attitude. This guy is a scammer. He's not going to give me my money back either because I already tried. My point of this was to warn other people. Did I wear a halter top. HA! I am still laughing about this one. It really didn't matter because the information was useless anyway.

No, i did not wear a halter top to court. As I wrote above. I am so sure. I didn't have an attitude. This guy is a scammer. He's not going to give me my money back either because I already tried. My point of this was to warn other people. Did I wear a halter top. HA! I am still laughing about this one. It really didn't matter because the information was useless anyway.

You would actually give your money to a company that will not give you a location, phone number, more importantly a TOS? You don't find that the least bit suspicious? You must be one of those people that sign a contract before you read it. This company is asking for money, BEFORE they'll give you ANY information! Either you know this company personally, or your a FOOL!!!!!!

You would actually give your money to a company that will not give you a location, phone number, more importantly a TOS? You don't find that the least bit suspicious? You must be one of those people that sign a contract before you read it. This company is asking for money, BEFORE they'll give you ANY information! Either you know this company personally, or your a FOOL!!!!!!

You would actually give your money to a company that will not give you a location, phone number, more importantly a TOS? You don't find that the least bit suspicious? You must be one of those people that sign a contract before you read it. This company is asking for money, BEFORE they'll give you ANY information! Either you know this company personally, or your a FOOL!!!!!!

You would actually give your money to a company that will not give you a location, phone number, more importantly a TOS? You don't find that the least bit suspicious? You must be one of those people that sign a contract before you read it. This company is asking for money, BEFORE they'll give you ANY information! Either you know this company personally, or your a FOOL!!!!!!

As usual your wrong. As for Marcy, you have been told many times by different people Marcy is from Texas, I am in California. If you can't accept this call Ed to verify it. Otherwise shut up about such a stupid assumption.

As for proxy registrations, it is one of the fastest growing areas on GoDaddy. If you can't accept this call GoDaddy to verify it. Run Microsoft.com or MSN.com at internic.net you will not find the contact info any longer. Companies are trying to keep their contact info out of the hands of the bad guys.


Domain Name: MICROSOFT.COM
Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Whois Server: whois.opensrs.net
Referral URL: http://WWW.TUCOWS.COM
Name Server: NS3.MSFT.NET
Name Server: NS1.MSFT.NET
Name Server: NS5.MSFT.NET
Name Server: NS2.MSFT.NET
Name Server: NS4.MSFT.NET
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Status: clientDeleteProhibited
Updated Date: 10-oct-2006
Creation Date: 02-may-1991
Expiration Date: 03-may-2014

If you can't accept this go to http://www.internic.net verify it.


Yes there are abuses, bad companies will hide their reg info and not put it on their web site. But good companies are now using proxy registrations to protect their networks but contact info can always be found on their contact us pages. Speed Ticket Beaters is a good example of the bad guy. He will not provide his contact info until you contact him. He is hiding from someone, police, process servers, who knows, who cares? Do not assume every company (which is in the millions now) that uses a proxy is a scam, because you would be wrong again. You still have to have correct reg info with Domains By Proxy though. (see below)

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What is the difference between a "public" and "private" registration?
See: http://help.godaddy.com/article.php?article_id=421&topic_id=165&&ci=8058

Last Updated: January 23, 2007 6:11 PM Print This Article You should know that the information listed on your domain name has to be made publicly available per our Registrar's agreement with ICANN, the international governing body of domain names. Using false information will violate the registration agreement and lead to the termination of your domain registration.

However, we do offer a solution to help protect your privacy. You can register your domain name with us using our private domain name registration services.

When you purchase our private domain registration services, the WHO-IS directory will list Domains By Proxy's name, postal address and phone number instead of yours. Although Domains By Proxy is the Registrant of your domain name registration, you still retain the full benefits of domain registration. You can:

Cancel, sell, or transfer your domain name registration.
Revert the Registrant listing for your domain name registration back to you.
Renew your domain name registration when it expires.
Designate the name servers for your domain.
Resolve claims arising out of a dispute involving your domain name registration.
More importantly, with a private registration, Domain By Proxy's name, address and phone number are made publicly available in the WHOIS directory--and not yours.
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We have well over 100 domains under registration for us and our clients. I have forgotten more about domain registrations and DNS than you will ever learn in your lifetime so for once YOUR NOT the holy expert of the ROR. Steve, I have no problem with you as long as you quit putting people down and spewing out bad advice and telling people what to do.

I have read every post on here. My general thought process is "you do the crime you pay the fine" BUT if I was the type to fight a ticket, I would not hesitate to use the service. The CEO wrote mature postings that made sense. He professionaly argued his case while the others acted like 4 year olds.

Jes---You have nothing to lose. if you followed the rules than send in the required info and attempt to get the refund. it seems that you might not want to do it for reasons other than making a fool of yourself in public again. I dont know. maybe you had a slight attitude? Did you show up in a halter top? Not trying to be funny but everything you do, say or even wear is scrutinzed and affects the judges decision.

Dennis Ray,

First of all, I never claimed to be an expert on anything. If you pay attention with both of your personalities you will see that I post primarily to banking/credit/collections issues and truck driving. These are the things I do know.

And, far more people have been helped by my posts than aggravated. I have in many cases had posters ask for me by name for help. And, there is only a handful of know it alls like you who have a problem with me. All of those posts you mentioned are from like 3 or 4 people total.

Furthermore, Image is everything. Just using a registration service that caters to spammers and scammers hurts your image.

Go look at the domain registration of any big successful business website. I can guarantee that you will NOT find one that uses GoDaddy, or any other private registration service.

Get a life.


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Terry - Moline, Illinois, you are right!

Steve has been a thorn on this web site for a long time. He has done and seen everything, he is an expert on every subject ever posted on the ROR. You are right, as we renew our registrations we are using the proxy service to cut down on spam. We do not do any advertising so Steve's post is full of crap as usual. On the domains that go to a proxy service listing the spam drops off almost at once.

Our name, address and phone number are posted on the contact us page. We encrypt the contact email address so the harvesters can't get them. We hide from no one except the scum spammers that make our job a lot more difficult having to weed out all of their junk email. If you pull up a number of Steve's postings you will find upset people asking him to stop giving out his advice. He is condescending towards anyone with a problem. For everything he has done and claimed to have done we think he should be about 100 years old by now.

Dennis Ray - Los Angeles, California
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Steve has been a thorn on this web site for a long time. He has done and seen everything, he is an expert on every subject ever posted on the ROR. You are right, as we renew our registrations we are using the proxy service to cut down on spam. We do not do any advertising so Steve's post is full of crap as usual. On the domains that go to a proxy service listing the spam drops off almost at once.

Our name, address and phone number are posted on the contact us page. We encrypt the contact email address so the harvesters can't get them. We hide from no one except the scum spammers that make our job a lot more difficult having to weed out all of their junk email. If you pull up a number of Steve's postings you will find upset people asking him to stop giving out his advice. He is condescending towards anyone with a problem. For everything he has done and claimed to have done we think he should be about 100 years old by now.

No young man, I did not search this thread out. If you must know, I was looking for paypal complaints when I ran across this thread and some of the laughable assumptions by both the complainers and the owner of speedticketbeaters.

I just felt compelled to reply to the one post that made egregiously erroneous assumptions regarding proxy registrations. A service that has slashed the spams that my company is inundated with daily.

I really wonder where kids like you and the not a lawyer kid come from when you make comments about a subject that you are obviously not versed in.

You state: "There is no reason to register where known spammers are registered. There are plenty of legit, competitive registration and server sites out there."

If you had an inkling of what you were talking about rather than just trying to throw rocks, you would learn that the proxy domain listings ARE thru "legit, competitive registration and server sites out there"

The two that I use are Verisign and Godaddy. Maybe you have heard of them. One of their HIGHLY SUGGESTED options when you register a domain is:

(From Godaddy) "Private Registration
Helps protect against spam, fraud, identity theft and more by shielding your personal information from public view."

If you were aware of one of the largest spammer methodologies of harvesting domain ownership and registration information, you would have been aware of this. Hopefully now you are.

For the not a lawyer guy. (His assumptions are so out in left field that I will not even respond to him directly, nor will I partake in this ridiculous thread any further)

I run a small advertising company. Nothing more. Nothing less. I certainly have no desire for every spammer on the net to harvest my domain registration information. I do no business with any person or company directly with my advertising and info sites other than Google, Yahoo and MSN. I certainly do not want nor need the hassle afforded by the spammers or other whackos who harvest domain information.

No young man, I did not search this thread out. If you must know, I was looking for paypal complaints when I ran across this thread and some of the laughable assumptions by both the complainers and the owner of speedticketbeaters.

I just felt compelled to reply to the one post that made egregiously erroneous assumptions regarding proxy registrations. A service that has slashed the spams that my company is inundated with daily.

I really wonder where kids like you and the not a lawyer kid come from when you make comments about a subject that you are obviously not versed in.

You state: "There is no reason to register where known spammers are registered. There are plenty of legit, competitive registration and server sites out there."

If you had an inkling of what you were talking about rather than just trying to throw rocks, you would learn that the proxy domain listings ARE thru "legit, competitive registration and server sites out there"

The two that I use are Verisign and Godaddy. Maybe you have heard of them. One of their HIGHLY SUGGESTED options when you register a domain is:

(From Godaddy) "Private Registration
Helps protect against spam, fraud, identity theft and more by shielding your personal information from public view."

If you were aware of one of the largest spammer methodologies of harvesting domain ownership and registration information, you would have been aware of this. Hopefully now you are.

For the not a lawyer guy. (His assumptions are so out in left field that I will not even respond to him directly, nor will I partake in this ridiculous thread any further)

I run a small advertising company. Nothing more. Nothing less. I certainly have no desire for every spammer on the net to harvest my domain registration information. I do no business with any person or company directly with my advertising and info sites other than Google, Yahoo and MSN. I certainly do not want nor need the hassle afforded by the spammers or other whackos who harvest domain information.

When I began reading this thread, I was almost convinced by David (CEO) responses. I actually considered using this company. Thanks to all of you that kept pounding him, and did not find his sly replies believable. It was funny to watch him crumble under the pressure, and literally make his own company appear to be a scam.Thank you David, the more you talk, the more you expose yourself.

Terry,

I rest my case! You have 181 domains which do nothing but generate click thru revenue from advertisements on your websites. You are just a spammer. You are spamming indexes with your URLs to get traffic.

EXACTLY what LEGITIMATE "business" are you in? Please explain.

FYI..BUSINESS info is NEVER private. It is ALWAYS public.

Anyone who is ACTUALLY in a LEGITIMATE business will NEVER use a private registration service like godaddy.

John was absolutely correct in his statement. There are plenty of legitimate providers out ther. Most large legitimate businesses have their own IT dept, and use a domain that reflects the business name.

I stand by my statement.

You sought out this specific thread in order to defend where domains are registered? Laughable.
There is no reason to register where known spammers are registered. There are plenty of legit, competitive registration and server sites out there.

You state in your post: The website domain registration is by proxy through (((link redacted))), which is a major red flag. Only spammers and scammers use (((link))). NO LEGITIMATE business will use this type of service.

I happen to have 181 domains currently registered and doing business as information portals on the net. My income is derived from companies who pay for the visitors who click on ads that are on my site for products and services from their sites.

In the early years of the net, when domain proxy registrations were not available, all of my registration information was constantly harvested by spamming outfits. The volume of spam from those outfits was measured in the thousands per day on my server.

The availability to conceal our information with proxy listings has been an immeasurable asset to keeping our contact information out of the hands of the harvesters and crawlers that the spammers use to glean this information in bulk.

MY BUSINESS SIR IS A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS WHO USES "THIS TYPE OF SERVICE" IN ALL MY DOMAIN PURCHASES!

This guy may or may not be a scammer...You however ARE making accusations that are ABSOLUTELY inaccurate!

You state in your post: The website domain registration is by proxy through (((link redacted))), which is a major red flag. Only spammers and scammers use (((link))). NO LEGITIMATE business will use this type of service.

I happen to have 181 domains currently registered and doing business as information portals on the net. My income is derived from companies who pay for the visitors who click on ads that are on my site for products and services from their sites.

In the early years of the net, when domain proxy registrations were not available, all of my registration information was constantly harvested by spamming outfits. The volume of spam from those outfits was measured in the thousands per day on my server.

The availability to conceal our information with proxy listings has been an immeasurable asset to keeping our contact information out of the hands of the harvesters and crawlers that the spammers use to glean this information in bulk.

MY BUSINESS SIR IS A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS WHO USES "THIS TYPE OF SERVICE" IN ALL MY DOMAIN PURCHASES!

This guy may or may not be a scammer...You however ARE making accusations that are ABSOLUTELY inaccurate!

You state in your post: The website domain registration is by proxy through (((link redacted))), which is a major red flag. Only spammers and scammers use (((link))). NO LEGITIMATE business will use this type of service.

I happen to have 181 domains currently registered and doing business as information portals on the net. My income is derived from companies who pay for the visitors who click on ads that are on my site for products and services from their sites.

In the early years of the net, when domain proxy registrations were not available, all of my registration information was constantly harvested by spamming outfits. The volume of spam from those outfits was measured in the thousands per day on my server.

The availability to conceal our information with proxy listings has been an immeasurable asset to keeping our contact information out of the hands of the harvesters and crawlers that the spammers use to glean this information in bulk.

MY BUSINESS SIR IS A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS WHO USES "THIS TYPE OF SERVICE" IN ALL MY DOMAIN PURCHASES!

This guy may or may not be a scammer...You however ARE making accusations that are ABSOLUTELY inaccurate!

You state in your post: The website domain registration is by proxy through (((link redacted))), which is a major red flag. Only spammers and scammers use (((link))). NO LEGITIMATE business will use this type of service.

I happen to have 181 domains currently registered and doing business as information portals on the net. My income is derived from companies who pay for the visitors who click on ads that are on my site for products and services from their sites.

In the early years of the net, when domain proxy registrations were not available, all of my registration information was constantly harvested by spamming outfits. The volume of spam from those outfits was measured in the thousands per day on my server.

The availability to conceal our information with proxy listings has been an immeasurable asset to keeping our contact information out of the hands of the harvesters and crawlers that the spammers use to glean this information in bulk.

MY BUSINESS SIR IS A LEGITIMATE BUSINESS WHO USES "THIS TYPE OF SERVICE" IN ALL MY DOMAIN PURCHASES!

This guy may or may not be a scammer...You however ARE making accusations that are ABSOLUTELY inaccurate!

That is really awesome! A testimonial letter from one of speedticketbeaters most satisfied clients. Wow! I'm really impressed you drive 200 miles for your job every day. So, do I. Whoop do do!

I'm also really inspired and fascinated you were able to wear a suit to court. So did I. I'm really glad you told everyone that because many people that order speedticketbeaters usually wear a thong or tassels to court and I'm sure that's the only reason why they lose. Right? I'm sure this is a fake testimonial but even if it's real you just admitted the judge was 70 years old so maybe you could have saved the $75.00 since you are insinuating something about his age.... Either he couldn't hear you or he was just plain out of it. In which case, you could have saved yourself the $75.00 because plan or no plan you could have been a big winner.

I smell a shill, Eric - Chaska, Minnesota. This was a feeble attempt by STB to drag his name and company out of the mud. He stated many times he was done with this post only to come back over and over again. Now this, what a looser.

The other contributor was absolutely correct on this site, and "business" smelling of a scam, and a response to the "owner" with the big impressive title.

The website domain registration is by proxy through (((link redacted))), which is a major red flag. Only spammers and scammers use (((link))). NO LEGITIMATE business will use this type of service.

The other red flags are that there is no physical address or listed business telephone# anywhere on the website. Absolutely NO "Contact Us" information other than a webform.

This jerk is obviously running a scam.

Furthermore, any monkey can get a merchant account nowadays. I can get one set up within the hour for about $250. I have done it. No magic here.

A merchant account or ability to accept credit cards no longer guarantees reliability of the "merchant".

Even the fact that the website has the "Is this a scam" link on it shows they are already defending themselves before getting started.

NO LEGITIMATE business does this.

A challenge to the "business owner".

Post here your business license # that is on file where you operate AND a PHYSICAL business address, AND a LISTED BUSINESS phone#.

I'll be waiting.

Any LEGITIMATE business would not have any problem in doing this.

It is put up or shut up time here.

CLICK here to see why Rip-off Report, as a matter of policy, deleted either a phone number, link or e-mail address from this Report.

Morning.

I recently won my case 04.03.2007 in Hennepin County Court - Minnesota.

I used Speedticketbeaters to beat my ticket, as I am self employed and need my vehicle daily, as I drive 200 miles a day.

I gave details of my ticket, fully described the situation I was in and within an hour I received about 6 emails documenting step-by-step on how to beat my ticket.

I prepared for about two weeks going over the items and researching online. I went into court, presented my very first two / three items on my step-by-step document. The 70 yr old Judge and the 24 yr experienced prosecution individual got into a heated battle on my requests. The Judge firmly stated that my requests for information is a legitimate request, which the prosecution was unable to prove and the Judge immediately dismissed my case.

I would recommend anyone to use Speedticketbeaters, but like everything else. I would definitely let them know it's up to you on whether you win or not. Speedticketbeaters gives you the info, it's how you present it, how you dress, and your attitude. Just like a job interview.

I am not on here to cause trouble, nor will I ever log on again to review anyone's replies after my input. I am here to give my story and success from using Speedticketbeaters.

I would give you my info in order to help assist in your case, however, I am not paid by, endorsed by, or wanna be part of a legal battle for giving info away from Speedticketbeaters. This is the best advice I can give you. It is SAFE to use them.

Thanks
Eric - Minnesota

Perhaps this has gone under the radar, but by providing legal advice for money Mr. Ross is practicing law without a license in any or all of the states in which he sells his "advice".
If any of you have a complaint about the advice he has given you, I would urge you to contact the State Bar office in the state in which you completed your transaction for the "advice" he sold to you.
I can assure you as a licensed attorney in GA I will be reporting this to my state Bar. Jes, I suggest you do the same, we will see how the mighty Mr. Ross and his company respond to a Bar Complaint and Ethics investigation.

Perhaps this has gone under the radar, but by providing legal advice for money Mr. Ross is practicing law without a license in any or all of the states in which he sells his "advice".
If any of you have a complaint about the advice he has given you, I would urge you to contact the State Bar office in the state in which you completed your transaction for the "advice" he sold to you.
I can assure you as a licensed attorney in GA I will be reporting this to my state Bar. Jes, I suggest you do the same, we will see how the mighty Mr. Ross and his company respond to a Bar Complaint and Ethics investigation.

Perhaps this has gone under the radar, but by providing legal advice for money Mr. Ross is practicing law without a license in any or all of the states in which he sells his "advice".
If any of you have a complaint about the advice he has given you, I would urge you to contact the State Bar office in the state in which you completed your transaction for the "advice" he sold to you.
I can assure you as a licensed attorney in GA I will be reporting this to my state Bar. Jes, I suggest you do the same, we will see how the mighty Mr. Ross and his company respond to a Bar Complaint and Ethics investigation.

...he keeps going and going and going.....
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Mr. **gag***choke** David the CEO: Heading of post submitted- 1/25/2007 "My final post in this thread"....followed by "This will be my final post in this thread" as the first sentence.
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Subsequent posts were then submitted by Mr. CEO 2-1-07 3:31PM, 5:14PM, 8.28PM; 2-2-07 10:54AM,4:40PM; 2-3-07 2:59PM, and 6:14PM.
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Ya' gotta' admire this guy's tenacity, in spite of his lack of credibility. That's six entries after his "final post".
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One could only hope Mr. CEO pursues the interests of his clients as arduously as he has in providing the plethora of worthless, meaningless blather on this site.
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Silly me! Such a facetious hope, eh?

If David wants to sue ANYONE, he'll have to provide his FULL name, REAL physical adress, and other PERTINENT information he thus far has refused to do.

Let him sue. Countersue him as soon as you get his complaint.

Guess which party won't show up? Guess which party won't provide their information in order to sue?

If David wants to sue ANYONE, he'll have to provide his FULL name, REAL physical adress, and other PERTINENT information he thus far has refused to do.

Let him sue. Countersue him as soon as you get his complaint.

Guess which party won't show up? Guess which party won't provide their information in order to sue?

If David wants to sue ANYONE, he'll have to provide his FULL name, REAL physical adress, and other PERTINENT information he thus far has refused to do.

Let him sue. Countersue him as soon as you get his complaint.

Guess which party won't show up? Guess which party won't provide their information in order to sue?

If David wants to sue ANYONE, he'll have to provide his FULL name, REAL physical adress, and other PERTINENT information he thus far has refused to do.

Let him sue. Countersue him as soon as you get his complaint.

Guess which party won't show up? Guess which party won't provide their information in order to sue?

SPEEDTICKETBEATERS.COM has a ZERO tolerance policy towards any company, website, or individual that participates or engages in any defamatory, libelous, or slanderous statements about us in the media, on the internet, or in a written publication. If such content is discovered to exist on any website, in any printed document or newspaper, or on any media outlets broadcast/s - SPEEDTICKETBEATERS.COM will take full civil and criminal legal action against the offending entity and any individual/s responsible.

They are coming for us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SPEEDTICKETBEATERS.COM has a ZERO tolerance policy towards any company, website, or individual that participates or engages in any defamatory, libelous, or slanderous statements about us in the media, on the internet, or in a written publication. If such content is discovered to exist on any website, in any printed document or newspaper, or on any media outlets broadcast/s - SPEEDTICKETBEATERS.COM will take full civil and criminal legal action against the offending entity and any individual/s responsible.

They are coming for us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SPEEDTICKETBEATERS.COM has a ZERO tolerance policy towards any company, website, or individual that participates or engages in any defamatory, libelous, or slanderous statements about us in the media, on the internet, or in a written publication. If such content is discovered to exist on any website, in any printed document or newspaper, or on any media outlets broadcast/s - SPEEDTICKETBEATERS.COM will take full civil and criminal legal action against the offending entity and any individual/s responsible.

They are coming for us all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

...BLAH, BLAH, BLAH (hand doing blah, blah, blah motion)...but doesn't say anything.

Give your contact information or go away.

That still NONE of you have been able to answer:

HOW is our company MAINTAINING a CLEAN RECORD with our merchant account bank, and Pay Pal - if we are ripping off/scamming people?

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

The questions/skepticisms many of you write on here are so redundant, in spite of my having answered them throughly, so often, that I am now going to invite you to take part in a new plan.

Any of you posting on this forum (or reading it) is invited to send us an email on our website requesting a telephone interview with me. I will then make sure, I make the time, to call you, and answer as many questions as you've got on a personal
phone call.

I think this would enable you to hear greater detail than I can go back and forth posting on here. I believe this also would likely be less hostile, than the unnecessary direction this thread has taken.

So please, feel free to send your request to speak with me, and I will make it priority number 1 to get back to you quickly.

On a short side note, answering some of the latest questions posed:

- Those are the logos we chose from a group we looked at. The Visa/MC logos you like for your site, may not be the ones we like for ours. However, that difference of taste does not in any way mean that we do not have a merchant account, because you think the logos are poor!

- Merchant accounts are VERY, VERY difficult for
a business like ours to get. As we all agree the business of beating speeding tickets is met with quite a bit of skepticism. The merchant account providers were every bit as skeptical as you, and wanted proof that we have a long history of satisfied customers. Us getting a merchant account was not the "cake walk" that it was for a hardware store, or pizza place, believe me! Furthermore, us now holding that account 100 percent clean of customer complaints for 2 years, is more proof of our validity as a business.

- The ZERO tolerance notice on our site does not in any way damage our credibility. It is there because our competitors from time to time have decided to attempt to damage us, by stealing our content, or posting false statements about us (as alluded to earlier in this thread). That policy is targeted at THEM, not you.

- No, we do not have ANY way of figuring out who "Jes" is in our thousands of customers database. We do not keep customers names, etc. We keep email addresses, but we do not know which of those belongs to her. There's THOUSANDS! Fact is, if Jes was serious about getting a refund, as opposed to just attempting to stir up trouble... She would have taken me up on my many time made offer to contact us directly. And no customer (Jes included) is made to "jump through hoops" to get a refund. We simply want to hear directly from the cusotmer, hear what happened, see if maybe their ticket can still be reversed, and if not give a refund. WHAT IS SO SCAMMISH/UNFAIR ABOUT THAT?!

- To those that have suggested that my regularly responding to you on here is a waste of my time, and financially costly. You are mistaken on both counts. 1) I do not believe it to be a waste of my time to set you straight about how our good company works. 2) This thread has been the best advertisement this site has ever had! The more you guys post, the more people seem to read and visit our site! Our unique visitors have doubled since this started! So we believe theres a great benefit to the thread you people have continued, not a loss to us! If anyone should be wondering why they continue to post on this thread it is you! I have a vested interest in this company. You don't!

Ok, So, please feel free to email, starting today, and request a phone interview with me. I'll even make myself available today (Saturday) for a little while.

Regards,

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

As long as he conceals his identity he's not the least bit credible.

I didn't want to add traffic to his 2-bit site but I just had to see how he'd misquoted Ed. All it says is: "ED MAGEDSON - 'The owner of your company made many responses.'"

WHAT??? Obviously clipped from a longer statement that wasn't the least bit complimentary. Like those fake movie reviews: "I must have been an idiot to think this is a great movie" turns into "I... think this is a great movie!"

And the logos are obviously just pasted in there from somewhere else. I'll bet that took as much special talent as getting a QB merchant account! Or a PayPal account! Woo-h*o!

If you want to be credible & legitimate, GIVE YOUR NAME & ADDRESS like a REAL businessman. (And no, Domains by Proxy said you can't give theirs.)

SO?????????

They look like they were lifted from someone else's website. If you have a merchant account, they provide the artwork as part of the contract. If you go to Paypal's site they have much better Visa and MasterCard logos than the ones you're using. They also have Amex and Discover Card.

The Paypal Verified thing is cute too, ALl you have to do for that is provide your banking details to them.

I can't believe this thread is still going and this guy keeps coming back for more.

I read most of the responses here and frankly I'm amazed at one thing.. you type out these rather long "pat yourself on the back" postings in this thread which I'm sure have taken hours of your time... You would be much cheaper off just giving the guy back his $75 and going back to whatever hole you rip off people crawled out of. You're wasting your time, you're wasting everyone's time.. just refund the guy!

P.S. I used to do alot of volunteer work with the local police dept including many traffic stops as well as sitting through many court cases. Yes there are certain technical issues you can "loophole" your way through but they are few and far between and most of the time you'll just make a fool out of yourself and waste your time. Your better off just being as polite and nice as possible and they will be very fair in the judgement. I've seen enough of these court cases to know that's a fact that no "beat your ticket" website is going to change. And all of your lame claiming to have a Paypal and merchant account means absolutely nothing.. anyone get get those accounts, even scammers who steal your money and give you *nothing* in return can get them, those give you absolutely NO credibility.

-- LT

First of all, how can you have no way of contacting Jes? She must have given you information when she paid for your scam. Either an e-mail (via paypal) or a billing address (if she used a credit card).

Secondly, your little quote of Ed is most likely completely out of context. Why don't you post the entire e-mail. I suspect that he was complaining about all the runarounds you are giving people here on this site.

I try to be objective, however you seem like a total bottom feeder who is preying on people who are too naive to know a scam when they run across one.

First of all, how can you have no way of contacting Jes? She must have given you information when she paid for your scam. Either an e-mail (via paypal) or a billing address (if she used a credit card).

Secondly, your little quote of Ed is most likely completely out of context. Why don't you post the entire e-mail. I suspect that he was complaining about all the runarounds you are giving people here on this site.

I try to be objective, however you seem like a total bottom feeder who is preying on people who are too naive to know a scam when they run across one.

First of all, how can you have no way of contacting Jes? She must have given you information when she paid for your scam. Either an e-mail (via paypal) or a billing address (if she used a credit card).

Secondly, your little quote of Ed is most likely completely out of context. Why don't you post the entire e-mail. I suspect that he was complaining about all the runarounds you are giving people here on this site.

I try to be objective, however you seem like a total bottom feeder who is preying on people who are too naive to know a scam when they run across one.

First of all, how can you have no way of contacting Jes? She must have given you information when she paid for your scam. Either an e-mail (via paypal) or a billing address (if she used a credit card).

Secondly, your little quote of Ed is most likely completely out of context. Why don't you post the entire e-mail. I suspect that he was complaining about all the runarounds you are giving people here on this site.

I try to be objective, however you seem like a total bottom feeder who is preying on people who are too naive to know a scam when they run across one.

I'm not sure if speedticketbeaters.com is a scam or not. Obviously they provided the materials as promised but their stategy didn't work. We'll never know because Jes isn't willing to pursue the issue any further and unless she does this will be a he said/she said. However, I have some comments for David regarding the operation of his business.

1. As said many times, you should not conceal your identity. Regardless of wheter you are a scam or not, you certainly give that impression no matter how you try to explain it.

2. Take off the zero tolerance on your website. I can't imagine going to a reputable business website and seeing that posted in red. SCAM alert goes off after reading that.

3. You are doing more harm than good by continuing to post. Post once as a rebuttal and let others make up their own mind. Continuing to try and debate is useless at this point and you're keeping the thread active. You can only refer to your clean paypal record so many times before it gets annoying.

4. You've probably already invested over $75 in your time already and your website has received negative publicity. A refund would have been cheaper in the long run. Make an executive decision and do what's in the best interest for the customer and your company. I understand you can't just hand out refunds but there are times when being flexible with your policies is more benefitial to your company - and this is one of those times.

I just wish Jes or someone else who has used this service would proceed with the refund procedures and provide details of their experience. I would suspect that it is very difficult to get a refund.

I've never used PayPal so I don't know how complaints are handled by them. I would be interested to find out if Jes has taken the time to complain to paypal or to the merchant account, which David is so proud of.

...Did you talk to yourself?

BTW, getting a QB merchant account is no big deal, any individual with a bank account can do it.

What is your full contact information? Name + DBA, address, city, state, zip? Are you a sole prop., LLC, LLP, S-corp., C-corp., what? Obviously you're not a non-profit :)

Or as we suspect, just a guy with a PayPal account who refuses to identify himself?

People get offers for merchant services all the time regardless of who they are. Who are you kidding. There are complaints about them all over this site for starters.

It's not as "hard" as you want to make it out to be-aside from the fact that there is no place to confirm anything you have said-which is why you are saying it.

You are a PayPal merchant-and there fees are pretty much right in line with anyone else.
If you indeed were a merchant for Visa/MC, I'm sure they would require the logo be displayed as they do signage in brick and mortar stores.

For someone who now allegedly doesn't know who Jes is, how could you say she is not worthy of you "money back guarantee"? She stated her claim-there is no need for her to have to jump through hoops-she lost plain and simple. She didn't ask for this now guaranteed reversal and making an *&* of herself for a second time-she wants her cash.

Your suggestion that we go ahead and put the Visa and MasterCard logos on our site (representing the presence of our merchant account) was deemed a good one by our staff.

Tech already went in and got it done.

You'll notice they are at the top of the first page.

Thanks again!

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Your suggestion that we go ahead and put the Visa and MasterCard logos on our site (representing the presence of our merchant account) was deemed a good one by our staff.

Tech already went in and got it done.

You'll notice they are at the top of the first page.

Thanks again!

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Your suggestion that we go ahead and put the Visa and MasterCard logos on our site (representing the presence of our merchant account) was deemed a good one by our staff.

Tech already went in and got it done.

You'll notice they are at the top of the first page.

Thanks again!

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Your suggestion that we go ahead and put the Visa and MasterCard logos on our site (representing the presence of our merchant account) was deemed a good one by our staff.

Tech already went in and got it done.

You'll notice they are at the top of the first page.

Thanks again!

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

First John -

We haven't a clue where you get your incorrect information, but we have had a full BANK, NON PAY PAL related merchant account - tied into our Quickbooks account for several years!

We have no idea how you would THINK you are right about this.

And merchant accounts are NOT easy for internet companies that provide services (as opposed to goods) to get! We had to show a very long list (hundreds) of satisfied customers before we got our approval a few years ago!

The fact that we do not display Visa and Mastercard logos on our site, is because we do not wish to give the false impression, that one can sign up online. Sign up is only available via telephone or Pay Pal. Although maybe we should re-think this, and display the logos. I'll discuss with tech team. Good suggestion!


Now Mike -

a) We do NOT attempt to steer customers towards the use of Pay Pal. In fact, quite the contrary!
Pay Pal fees are higher than merchant account fees. We prefer telephone sign ups through our merchant account.

b) You comment that it's not a big deal that we have a merchant account...but rather can we "keep it." Well, somehow we have managed to keep it, and have it remain squeeky clean of complaints for 2 years! HOW ARE WE DOING THAT IF WE ARE A SCAM? It seems NO ONE on here can answer simple questions of this type!

Regarding the copyright infringing website you referenced in your post. That issue has NOTHING to do with the site Jes referred to in her post. That was a complaint we made about a site that was using much of our content word for word. They were subsequently ordered to remove it, as a result of our legal action. Today that site exists, without a word of our content (as it should be).

IS THERE A REASON NONE OF YOU EVER ENCOURAGE
"JES" TO CONTACT US DIRECTLY? IF SHE HAD DONE SO A WEEK AGO, SHE WOULD HAVE EITHER HAD A REVERSAL IN THE JUDGES RULING OR A REFUND BY NOW!

Even if we were attempting to get Jes a refund right now, because she has not contacted us directly, we have NO IDEA how to get it to her!
We do not know who she is, or her contact info.

Frankly, all of you should get on with your lives.

I have repeatedly tried on behalf of my company to help Jes to one of the 2 things above. SHE has not cooperated!

Even the OWNER OF THIS SITE wrote us a letter recognizing that we have handled this well,a nd look clean to him (see page 1 of our site)!!!

How is it that he can see the truth, but you people cannot?

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

You clearly are not a merchant of Visa/MC. You would have the logos on your site and be listed as a merchant on the card site-you are not. Even if you were-it again proves nothing as there are no complaint forums on their sites-much less public accessible complaints listed.

The only affiliation you have with those 2 credit cards is through PayPal. That in itself does not make you a merchant of Visa/MC. You are a merchant of PayPal only. Again-big deal. So am I. Not hard to do. There is no merchant accountability to the cards-only PayPal and that's even if they take a complaint seriously. Answered once again-you have proven NOTHING.

There will certainly be more complaints as more people find out about this site. THAT is what has kept complaints about your sham away-many people don't know about this place yet. Now the word will get out.

And since there was no refund to Jes-regardless of what meaningless hoops you try to make her jump through and how you try to wiggle out of your alleged "money back guarantee"-you are a scam

Imagine there'd be competition! There is no such thing as a secret criminal defense strategy. The first time anyone uses it in court, it becomes public record. As I mentioned earlier, this stuff is nothing new.

I think ROR should redact the name of the other site, because it is indeed trying to sell something similar to David's product. However reading the first few pages it looks a lot more credible. The "other site":

* Gives away a lot of useful information.
* Sells the rest for very little.
* Soft-pedals the conspiracy angle.
* Admits that not all tickets can be beaten.
* Offers no guarantees.
* Shows some knowledge of the law by emphasizing the need to craft each defense differently according to state law and the facts of the case. (opposed to Speed Ticket Beaters "tell the judge all states have the same laws").

As readers of this site know, PayPal/Ebay has a "Rochambeau" approach to dispute resolution. The first one to move is very likely going to win. So Jes can help David find her by making a PayPal complaint. As for VISA/MC, almost anyone can get a merchant account, but can they keep it? It appears that the "loud obnoxious guy" encourages the victims to pay by PayPal, avoiding trouble with VISA/MC. It is also a virtual product, which has less protection for the buyer.

Ok, we will:

RE: The Honolulu posting. It is done completely anonymously. We have no idea what the background is on their case/who they are. BUT, as Ed M. himself points out, ALL companies get complaints sometimes.

Considering the nature of our business, and the high potential for losses...We think 2 complaints on the entire web, in 4 years (yours and the Honolulu one) is pretty impressive! So it seems you have helped my argument, that we are not a scam!

RE: the Tipmra thing, try re-freshing their pages in your chance and see if that stuff still comes up. IT WON'T. It was removed by the owner of that site (our direct competitor by the way). It was mostly written BY HIM and posted by him during a feud he was having with us several years ago, and quickly removed. Hard to take the comments of OUR DIRECT COMPETITION as proof that we are a scam! It is in THEIR interest to say so. If you do not believe that he removed the stuff from his site, and didn't intend to express that sentiment about
us, to your eyes in 2007, call and ask him. You will find out I am correct.

RE: Your refund being Pay Pal'd to you. How can we do that? We do not even know your contact info!
We do not know exactly who you are in our
database. We have thousands of customers, hundreds in Indiana alone. If you want such a refund you are going to have to directly contact us. I have invited you to do so, no less than a half dozen times on here already, and you refuse!

RE: My challenge in the last post. NO ONE has managed to come forward and explain the answer to the question I posed. That is because the ONLY possible answer, is that we are not a scam! I will re-pose the question now. I am certain that again, no one, will be able to explain it: You argue that "anyone" can get a Pay Pal (verified business acct?)...But can "ANYONE" get a regular bank MERCHANT account (from one of the 3 most famous banks in the U.S by the way)? We got one. If we're a scam, HOW did we do that? And why does Visa and Mastercard have NO complaints about us, thru our merchant account charges? Wouldn't they have cancelled the account if we were scamming people? You don't think Pay Pal proves anything, but HOW is this clean record and merchant account happening?

We got an interesting email a day or 2 ago, from someone we think you are all familiar with. You
might want to have a close look at page 1 of our website today. Seems that this person, whom you all regard quite highly, thinks I have done an upstanding job ATTEMPTING to respond to you, and answering questions in general...The letter appears to recognize that to HIS eye, we have not behaved like a scam outfit.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Like I have said before who gives a flying f*k that you have paypal.. or merchant account!! You refuse to give anyone your address or basic information. It smells like a scam to me! Yep your a SCAMMER! GO CRAWL BACK UNDER YOUR ROCK SCAMMER!

Mr. Ross:
I take notice of this statement on your website:(Quote)"
"SPEEDTICKETBEATERS.COM has a ZERO tolerance policy towards any company, website, or individual that participates or engages in any defamatory, libelous, or slanderous statements about us in the media, on the internet, or in a written publication. If such content is discovered to exist on any website, in any printed document or newspaper, or on any media outlets broadcast/s - SPEEDTICKETBEATERS.COM will take full civil and criminal legal action against the offending entity and any individual/s responsible".
.
You're in luck! Let me introduce myself. I'm Mr. Ben Dover CEO, of GETRIDOFBADMOUTHERSONTHEWEB.COM

My organization has a $85.00 package available in which you may have interest. After perusing the beating you've received at the hands of the vile contributors on this site, it's time for you to act. Our package will assure the appropriate response to these folks.

I'd reveal the specifics of the furnished response, but due to matters of confidentiality and grisly details, I'm sure you'll understand none of this data can be revealed prior to payment. I must keep my real identity and location confidential, which I'm also sure you'll understand.

I have several felony charges pending as the result of actions taken in response to past cases successfully concluded for delighted clients. Mr.Ross, I'm your man! The use of my services will circumvent the costly and lenghy "criminal and legal action" to which you allude in your "Zero tolerance policy". We'll save you money!.

Wow. Like, I really want to try to get my refund now. Do you want to deposit it in my paypal account?

Oh, look what I found someone in Hawaii complaining about Speedticketbeaters......
http://honolulu.ads24.org/post_11067.html

I also found this on the internet.......

January 20,2004: The scumbag webmaster DAVID RACE of speedticketbeaters.com sent me an email virus. The attempt was feeble and poorly done. His pathetic attempt to trick me into opening the infected attachment by pretending that it was form someone in Indiana with speeding ticket questions about attached documents failed. The idiot failed to realize that Indiana does not send documents with a speeding ticket. What a fool! (little does he know but emails can be traced)

I have had numerous complaints about this scumbag that thinks he is the "Top Dog" or something. If he is referring to doggy poop then I will concede - He is the Top Dog. - Better luck next time David. For those inclined to take advice - be advised - David Race and his site speedticketbeaters.com is oozing sleaze and out to get you. For fun and a parody on the scum speeding ticket sites out there you can go to -http://speedticket.net/index.htm

I found that information on this site:

http://speedticket.net/new_tipmra/updates_for_speeding_ticket_defense1.htm


Enough said. The CEO already lied about winning in 100% of cases. I am sure he is lying about the possibility of giving me a refund. LIke the others before me said.... It's not about that. It's about what you're doing to people!

RIP OFF RONALD!!!!!!!!!!!!

You mentioned that "anyone" can get a Pay Pal (verified business account).

Can "anyone" get a bank merchant credit card account?

If we're scamming people - How did we get one of those? How have we managed to keep it? Why are there NO complaints to Visa or Mastercard that our merchant account bank would have heard about?

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Are you for real david? Who gives a s**t if you have a good track record with paypal!! Paypal is the biggest ripoff!! Stop trying to scam innocent people and crawl back under your rock!! No one here believes any of your bullshit! Stop ripping people off and crawl back under your rock SCAMMER!!

Isn't it funny, he keeps responding as if he's a legitimate businessman - even though he won't give his real name nor location.

Don't you get it? Jes just doesn't want to mess with your dumba$$ anymore! She's way past the point where the additional effort on her part would be worth the trouble!

And you keep saying "Check with PayPal" to verify your validity. Anyone can get a PayPal account, and they are zero help when it comes to vouching for people. I have a PayPal account, too, so what? The point is, no one likes to do business with someone who refuses to identify himself. That's just common sense. Maybe when you grow up you'll learn that LEGITIMATE business people don't mind backing up their products!

I don't wish to get back into a flow of interacting back and forth on this forum. However, Dennis' latest post shows so little ability to comprehend the details of what he has
read throughout, that I simply had to respond.

Dennis:

Our company IS located in Studio City, California! At no time did I claim it is not!

Furthermore, I never claimed to be at a resort in "Studio City" California. I mentioned that I was away on vacation during the majority of these posts, at a resort. Therefore I was AWAY from STUDIO CITY writing posts from my resort hotel room.

YES, our phone calls come fromt he 818 area code. That is because we are based in the 818 area code!

It really seems that you have understood very little of what you have read so far.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Just updating all of you, that in spite of the fact that we have offered many times in this thread to see if there is a way to get Jes a reversal in her case, or provide her a refund...

We still have not heard directly from her.

We would hope that all of you find it "interesting" to say the least, that Jes refuses to come forward and contact us. Not doing so is keeping her from either a vidtory in her case, or a refund. Both are obviously desired outcomes.

So we hope as a reader of this forum, you are able to deduce from this what we already consider fairly obvious. Jes's accusation that our company is either a scam, or non reputable is highly questionable at best.

Also note, this is the first complaint that has appeared about us on this forum in 4 years of business! If we were a threacherous business
I would assume there would have been more by now.

Again, as I have said so many times throughout this thread...If you would like to confirm the legitimacy of our business and our clean record, please call Pay Pal. They will surely know if we have a complaint history, since they have processed thousands of our customers transactions with us.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Think we may have figured out one piece of his B.S. He is calling people from the (818) area code. He also claims (more lies) that he is at some flea bag hotel in the San Fernando Valley area of Los Angeles. Studio City is NOT a resort area, it has a few "no tell" motels for the local porn industry (the San Fernando Valley is home to most adult movie shops).

His business is not in Arizona, it is in the San Fernando Valley, maybe even Studio City as Studio City does use the (818) area code. The Studio City area is very residential, so I believe he is some stupid a*s kid living in his parents house someplace in the San Fernando Valley.

Not that anyone gives a crap, it's just another of many of his B.S. lies. D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com, David - Studio City, California is a true scammer, idiot and moron. STAY CLEAR OF THIS JERK, LIAR AND HIS RIP OFF SCAM!

Just a last bit of information: I called Domains by Proxy yesterday and spoke to a manager. He said that NO, their customers are NOT supposed to be giving out their address as the customer's "corporate address," and he asked me to forward him that email that "CEO Dave" had sent.

I'm sure that by now Mr. "CEO" (haha, that's just funny) has had his little hands smacked by Domains by Proxy. Wonder what address he'll try to use now - if he even has any customers that is.

Just a last bit of information: I called Domains by Proxy yesterday and spoke to a manager. He said that NO, their customers are NOT supposed to be giving out their address as the customer's "corporate address," and he asked me to forward him that email that "CEO Dave" had sent.

I'm sure that by now Mr. "CEO" (haha, that's just funny) has had his little hands smacked by Domains by Proxy. Wonder what address he'll try to use now - if he even has any customers that is.

Just a last bit of information: I called Domains by Proxy yesterday and spoke to a manager. He said that NO, their customers are NOT supposed to be giving out their address as the customer's "corporate address," and he asked me to forward him that email that "CEO Dave" had sent.

I'm sure that by now Mr. "CEO" (haha, that's just funny) has had his little hands smacked by Domains by Proxy. Wonder what address he'll try to use now - if he even has any customers that is.

Just a last bit of information: I called Domains by Proxy yesterday and spoke to a manager. He said that NO, their customers are NOT supposed to be giving out their address as the customer's "corporate address," and he asked me to forward him that email that "CEO Dave" had sent.

I'm sure that by now Mr. "CEO" (haha, that's just funny) has had his little hands smacked by Domains by Proxy. Wonder what address he'll try to use now - if he even has any customers that is.

Thank you Jes!

I've learned two things from this thread. One, there are a lot of smart people out there and two, just how shrewd, slick, and stubborn a con-man can be. Lie and deny, that's their code. This scam has been exposed for the world to see.

This is what you paid for, stuff like: "Tell the judge that all states have the same laws" and "At the appeal level, use the same argument you used today." We still don't know which lawyers he has working for him, but obviously they're four-star.

The type of speeding ticket defense he's selling is neither secret nor unduly complicated. It's been discussed for years in car magazines and forums. Basically if there were a book like "Speeding Ticket Defense for Dummies" (and maybe there is), it would be David's "defense packet." Only hopefully with fewer mistakes.

So with a little research of the laws of YOUR STATE, anyone can mount a techincal defense on points like improper signage, radar gun out of calibration or improperly used, wrong speed limit for the type of road, etc. But you'd have to gather some facts for proof and present them concisely to the judge. Simply handing out a bunch of books to the judge is pointless, and insulting. Hopefully you'd at least use the proper editions and with applicable state supplements.

Quoting a California law in Indiana and saying all states have the same laws doesn't work, even if they are the same. Using a new edition of the MUTCD, when the state still legally uses the old edition, even though they may be the same, will just make the judge laugh at you. Then you say "Somewhere in these books, Your Honor, is the reason I'm not guilty" isn't going to cut it. It's what you'd see Lionel Hotz do on "The Simpsons."

The fact is still that a lot of speeding tickets (but of course not all and possibly not even a majority) are absolutely legit and WILL stand up in court. Even if you were to pay O.J.'s defense team a lot more than $75.00 to fight them. When you don't have a good solid defense based on actual facts that are specific to your case (not generic boilerplate that the judge has heard a zillion times before), it would be much better to ask the court for mercy.

Conspiracy theories have been used through the years to sell a lot of crap. There's no need for a conspiracy to make people speed. Even if huge speed limit signs were posted every 100 yards, radar guns perfectly calibrated, etc, there would still be lots of speeding. The only time people will slow down is after they get a ticket or see someone else get busted.

And the "It's a Massive Conspiracy" defense will instantly turn any court against you, especially if you're going to alledge that the Judge is in on the conspiracy. The first rule of being in court is always kiss up to the Judge. That's pretty much the second and third rule too.

The post about running and hiding behind a domains by proxy to avoid "harassment by the authorites" was right on. What you're really worried about is angry customers after you don't make good on the guarantee, which keeps getting more complicated the more a customer try to claim it. What you are selling is neither secret nor unique or a revolutionary thing that is finally going to "stick it to The Man." Everyone who owns a fast car knows about it already. Elaine had a good idea to just admit you're selling a sort of "Speeding Tickets for Dummies," and don't make any guarantees that it will work.

The authorites have better things to do than harass you, like write more speeding tickets. Since they own the judge too, they don't have to worry about losing in court to your silliness.

Also using the word "insurance" to describe your $119 package is a big no-no. The "I" word only applies to contracts that really are insurance. Offering and selling insurance is strictly regulated. "Speed ticket insurance" would suggest you'd pay the fine on cases that are lost. You don't actually do that, do you? Well maybe after it's been appealed thru to the U.S. Supreme Court, the World Court, Galactic Court, etc.

(*) At the appeal level, you can't argue questions of facts or evidence, only whether the lower court applied the laws correctly, and perhaps whether the laws are constitutional. Preparing an appeal is completely different from the first trial. Unless, well, you didn't present any facts or evidence at the first trial.

I too am sorry Jes that this company ripped you off. They just take advantage of people in a desparate situation. Like I said in my earlier post, some of his clients are probably looking at revocation or suspension because they are repeat offenders and they will try anything to avoid that. For him to state that all speeders are being entrapped and that he guarantees that he can get everyone off is absolutely way off base. He is living in fantasyland. There are ABSOLUTELY no guarantees in the courtroom. Like another poster said: If you did it and you know it, take your lumps. If you dont think you are guilty, by all means, fight it, get an attorney. There is corruption out there, I have seen it myself in my 17 years in the courtroom and on the streets, but mostly it is few and far between. When I asked this man a few questions about how the county is entrapping the citizens by posting speed limits and enforcing them he could not, or would not answer stating that I couldnt get that info for free and telling me that it is way over my head. I have probably spent more time in a courtroom in the last 17 years as a police officer than he has been driving. I am all for people protecting their rights and getting an attorney to help them. I have faced some of the best defense attorneys here in GA. I have won AND lost cases. This guy, in fact NOBODY can guarantee 100% victory in the court room AND win every time. If so, why isnt he representing clients in the courtroom and making tons more $$ doing it. People will pay HUGE sums for a good attorney who has that kind of track record. This guy is hiding behind a computer screen spewing his garbage then telling his customers that they didnt represent themselves right when they lose like you did. Dont feel bad, he talks a good game but when it comes time to come to the table, he falls way short. Good luck Jes.

This will be my final post in this thread, as my vacation ends tomorrow. I would like to enjoy a full 24 hour period, without answering any more of these insane charges.

In short, to the person who suggested an investigation of my law background. Please re-read the entire thread. At no time did I confirm that I AM an attorney. I simply acknowledged that we have attorneys on staff. Obviously our defense strategies were created by lawyers! So HOW/WHERE would the distribution of legal advice without a law license charge be actionable? Answer: IT WOULDN'T. Probably a good idea for those pursuing that, to find a new angle. That one won't work.

I'm sure any of you can imagine how the police, courts, and insurance companies around the U.S feel about our customers beating them at trial every week. We severely damage their ability to continue to rip YOU off, and keep their revenue stream going. If you were running a company that causes them such trouble, you would see how having a "brick and mortar" retail type address available to them could be a problem. We could we have our legal department file motions and go back and forth dealing with their harassment...Yes. But is it cost effective or a good use of time to do so? No.

A good pair of analogies would be:

1) Any strip club owner will tell you about all of the visits they get from the police while running their perfectly LEGAL businesses. The police departments are looking for payoffs, and other bribes to go away. It is an endless cycle, that harasses many strip club owners into closing their businesses.

2) A media company being fined by the FCC for content the FCC (subjectively) deems indecent.
That media company can use their lawyers to file and fight every step of the way. Or they can pay off the government, and end the whole thing much more quickly and cheaply. In a case like that the government holds the cards. They can keep the whole case from even getting to court! So paying them off and ending it is more logical.

In our case, going with a DMP address, and ending the police departments ability to easily figure out how to simply come in and harass us, made more sense. As opposed to spending a fortune fighting an uphill battle.

I'll leave you with this group of thoughts.

Our company regardless of whether you believe it or not, was created to protect YOU from a TRUE rip off. If you like the idea of paying a fortune to the city and your car insurance the next time you get a ticket - then yes, help us to go out of business. You will then have one less organization protecting you from their scam.

But if you would like to know that someone is out there to help. That you can get good defense materials sent to you. That as a result of those materials, you'll have a very good chance of avoiding the fines, etc...You should be hoping we remain around for a while.

Our company is quite well regarded by many thousands of customers who have used the service
over the past 4 years. The company also has an ABSOLUTELY CLEAN record in terms of complaints, from the those that would know for sure if we were a scam. Visa, Mastercard, and Pay Pal. Interestingly NONE of you have been able to explain that. That is because there is nothing to argue with. The "proof is in the pudding". We're VERY OBVIOUSLY legit!

So in closing, I appreciate those of you who have been intelligent enough to see the that I have been honest throughout these posts. I especially appreciate those that have spoken up in defense of our company, in this thread. In fact come to think of it...I am willing to honor a good discount on our services for your next ticket - If you can show us the positive, intelligent defense you made of my statement/s on this thread.

For the rest of you, if you need help with a ticket - let us know, and we'll look at what your options are. If you don't wish to contact us, and would rather pay the city - then do so.

It's been a spirited debate, and sometimes even fun.

I wish all of you the best.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Throwing what you paid this guy on top of what you paid for your ticket just adds insult to the injury.

There are some lessons here though.

Lesson number one is that "testimonials" are worthless. It doesn't matter if they're selling "business opportunities", diet aids, or get out of jail free cards. Never, ever, ever trust a testimonial. In the research business it's well known that testimonials are not data, they are anecdotes - worthless for discovering the truth.

Secondly, if you get a speeding ticket and you were actually speeding, take your lumps, pay the fine and move on. If you weren't speeding and want to fight, go hire a real lawyer. In this case remember that what they fine you on the ticket is usually the minimum fine, if you irritate the judge he could decide to go for the max.

At least you kept your friend from falling into the trap.

This is the e-mail I got from the CEO after I complained because I lost and he wanted me to go "higher" Give me a break!
That's when I realized this was a total scam!

a) YOU WERE QUITE OBVIOUSLY IN FRONT OF A JUDGE WHO EITHER:
>
> 1 - DOES NOT KNOW THE LAW OF THE U.S
> 2 - PRETENDS HE DOES NOT KNOW THE LAW OF THE U.S SO THAT THEY CAN
IGNORE THE
> TRUTH
>
> NEITHER OF THOSE 2 IS YOUR FAULT. HOWEVER, YOU ARE NOT YET COMPLIANT
WITH
> OUR REFUND POLICY.
>
> ABOUT 30 % OF OUR CASES GO LIKE YOURS AND THEREFORE NEED TO BE
APPEALED TO
> THE APPEALS LEVEL IN ORDER FOR YOU TO WIN.
>
> OUR REFUND POLICY IS QUITE CLEAR THAT THEY IS THE NEXT STEP TO TAKE.
>
> CALL THE COURT, TELL THEM YOU NEED THE INFORAMTION AS TO HOW TO GO
ABOUT
> GETTING AN APPEAL HEARING IN FRONT OF A HIGHER JUDGE, TO APPEAL THE
LOWER
> JUDGES INCORRECT RULING. AT THE APPEAL LEVEL MAKE THE SAME ARGUMENT
YOU MADE
> TODAY, AND YOU SHOULD GET A REVERSAL. IF YOU DO SO, AND DO NOT GET A
> REVERSAL THEN YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO CLAIM A REFUND.
>
Yeah, like I really want to do that after I already felt like an a*s the first time!!!!!!! I SMELL SKUNK.....

Here is the snotty email I finally received back after my last one to them:

"NOW YOU'RE "CONCERNED"? THEN PLEASE RE-READ THIS PAGE http://speedticketbeaters.com/wst_page7.html AS MANY TIMES AS NECCESSARY, UNTIL YOUR "CONCERN" SUBSIDES. OUR CORPORATE ADDRESS IS WIDELY AVAILABLE ON THE WEB. 15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353, Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 SPEEDTICKETBEATERS.COM"

That is simply the address of Domains by Proxy! (Corporate address by proxy too, eh?) Hahaha. What a lying, scamming coward this guy is!

Last evening (Wednesday), just to see what would happen, I went ahead & asked for info on his website, using info from a ticket I recently received. I immediately received 4 emails in a row, basically hard-sell about how my insurance would go up a humongous amount, and how it'd be a HUGE mistake to go to ANY other website. I then got a call to the phone number I gave on his website. the guy said to be sure & check my email for his response! He called from 818-296-4516, a land line based in Glendale, CA from 01 Communications.

Two of the 4 emails covered this info: "PREMIUM insurance included ($119)-will cover your current ticket, plus it will include our PREMIUM Speeding ticket insurance pkg. The premium package entitles you and your immediate family to 1 year of our services at no additional charge. It will save you thousands, as it can be used on an unlimited amount of tickets during that time. This plan is easily our BEST plan.

NO insurance included ($89)will cover your current ticket only. If you choose this option you will be required to pay us a full fee all over again if you get another speeding ticket at a later date.

We STRONGLY suggest you send back your payment TODAY, so that we can GUARANTEE your victory in court."

PayPal links were included but NO CONTACT INFO WHATSOEVER. NO NAME, ADDRESS, NOTHING.

I replied to the last email: "I'm considering the one time only thing. it might be worth it. but where are you located? Are you in California? What's your address?" (I'm in California.)

He replied: "WE ARE LOCATED IN LOS ANGELES, CA. WE DO NOT HAVE A RETAIL LOCATION/ADDRESS. THIS IS AN ONLINE ONLY, COMPANY."

This morning (Thursday) I wrote back: "Well, now I'm concerned. You don't need to have a retail location to have an address. You must have a registered address?"

NO RESPONSE AT ALL! His emails all say that upon payment via PayPal, the "defense materials" will be sent by email. Guess what? His contact info will NEVER be revealed, not even to paying customers! That is quite obvious!

Obviously he REALLY doesn't want ANYONE to know ANYTHING about him! RED FLAGS. SIRENS. not to mention just the cowardliness of it all!

Is that I had an interest in the website. I requesting more information because as you can see, not much was available online. When you do that you start receiving a bunch of phonecalls from some guy who tries to sound like a drill sergeant and tries to actually "sell" this product to you over the phone. The reason I posted this is because a friend actually told me he was going to try to beat his ticket using speedticketbeaters.com and he was told nobody had ever lost. Well, there's a big fat lie right there because I told him I did.

I find it humorous that none of these testimonials can even be verified. Surely, the resort must really suck if you are spending most of your time posting e-mails on the rip off report.

Your business employs a battery of attorneys so skilled that they can provide defenses to beat every ticket in every state, but when the authorities harassed your business the only thing you could do was hide?? And it worked?? I would think your consulting lawyers would descend on the local courthouse en masse to file enough motions to drown them in paper for the next fifty years because the "authorities" were illegally interfering with their livelihood.

I've got to get me one of these Domains by Proxy; apparently they come with a cloak of invisibility that magically makes the local authorities forget who and where you are. That'll come in handy when the apocalypse comes. (I'm putting on my tin foil hat now.)

Fellow readers imagine this ad, if you will...

"Hi, I'm your local trial attorney. Been in an accident? Accused of a crime by the evil conspiratorial justice system? Let me protect your rights and get you the settlement you deserve. 100% guaranteed to win if you follow my instructions to the letter! As seen on TV!

Of course if you want to know anything about me, like who I am, where my office is, what states I'm licensed to practice in, or even if I'm actually a lawyer, you have to pay me first. I take Paypal!

By the way, if you dare ever say anything bad about me to anyone, I'll sue the crap out of you! Zero tolerance!"

You stopped providing a real adress because the cops were visting you regularly?

They don't visit me regularly.

I wonder what the difference is?

Mr. D. Ross, Isn't an attorney no more than he is at a resort as he told us he was.

More than likely, This idiot is sitting in his spare bedroom operating under several different websites trying to scam people out of their money. People like this prey on people's fears.

They could care less whether they help anyone as long as they can get money from them.

If he was an attorney, He would post his contact information. Any legit business does this and I am sure we all can agree to that.

Mr. D. Ross or Joe Smith as we really don't know who D. Ross really is, Probably knows that what he is doing is in violation of the law.

He isn't qualified to instruct anyone on how to win a case. He would have to be qualified in every state that he provide's his service too. Not even the best Attorney in the U.S. has that kind of backing.... :(

This is the kind of idiot that's made himself believe that people aren't suppose to pay taxes so on and so forth.

If you want legal advice, Believe it or not, If you are a respectable citizen and not a repeat criminal, You can talk to most officers and ask them how to handle your case. Even the officer that pulled you can help you out a great deal!

Having a background in law enforcement, I know that a law officer is only doing his job when he pull's someone over for speeding.

When an officer see's someone break the law in his presence, he has an obligation to act. It's not that he 'wants' to get you or anything like that - but in some state's - if he fails to act, he is liable and faces both criminal charges or civil suits or both.

As an officer, what would you do? - The job actually sucks. You go around trying to help people your entire life, you get threatened every day, your family get's threats, you make very low wages and for what? - If your lucky, you'll live until retirement. If not, you'll get shot like my father did in Raliegh N.C. while pulling someone over.

Everytime an officer pull's someone for speeding they risk being shot or killed. You pull a vehicle over, You park your car at a 45 deg angle, 15-20' behind suspects car, you get out of the car before the other person has a chance too. As you walk up to the car caustiously, you wonder to yourself, Is the person going to reach in their pocketbook or beside their seat to get a gun. Are you going home at the end of your shift? - Do you honestly think that an officer like's risking their life to give a simple speeding ticket? - Not at all.

Most State's have state wide speed laws. City limit and State wide speed laws. If it's not posted, it doesn't matter. Ignorance of the law isn't an excuse. Your best chance in court is talking with the DA, talking to the person that wrote the ticket. Most people are people. If your nice, They will help you out. If your a jerk, fat chance. If you were an officer, You pulled someone and he said he was going to take it to court and make you look like an idiot - What would you tell the DA about this person? - Would you accept a lessor charge? - I think not!

Mr. Doe or owner of the website doesn't know what in the HE double L he is talking about. He talks about all the people he has helped. We'll now he can talk about all the people that think's his site is stupid and how he has built a reputation on ripping people off. He even got his own massive page here at Ripoffreport.com!

Chris -

I didn't think I have to spell it out for you, but apparently you are incapable of figuring this out yourself.

In this companies 1st year, we DID have a "brick and motar" address posted. As I referenced in my last post, this became a problem.

The authorities (police) DID visit us repeatedly, and harass us!

This led to the site being re-registered and re-done without a physical address.

I am amazed that you weren't able to put all of this together, when reading all of my posts in their entirety.

Again, I am near the end of my vacation (and patience) and soon will discontinue posting responses to these foolish comments.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

I can't believe this guy?? He refuses to give his company information and refuses to tell us if he is an attorney?? Sounds like he is practicing law without a license..

Also who gives a sh*t if he has a good record with paypal.. paypal is a scam.. everyone knows that. Having a good record with paypal means NOTHING.

If is looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, yep its a duck..

This guy is a scammer! Give Jes the $75 refund!This whole thing stinks to high hell..

yep its a duck

RW KEARNEY NE

"The nature of your business makes disclosing your brick & mortar location a bad idea?" PUH-LEEZE! You are beyond ridiculous!!! What, you think you'll be persecuted by "the man"? Hahahahaha. More like it's an excuse not to disclose your actual address! (There goes the old bullsh!t meter again.)

Since David Ross is providing California Law to get people out of tickets, I looked up on the California Bar website for David Ross:

http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_search.aspx?ms=david+ross

I seriously doubt any of the attorneys on this list are the same David Ross. David Ross' signature says he is from Studio City. There are no David Ross' in Studio City. Studio City is in Los Angeles and the two David Ross' in Los Angeles are Labor lawyers and Real Estate Lawyers.

Apparently, there is a new law to prosecute people who try to practice law without a license.

"In September, Gov. Schwarzenegger signed SB 894 by Sen. Joseph Dunn, D-Garden Grove, which gives authority to a Superior Court, on its own motion or upon application of the State Bar, to assume jurisdiction of the ?practice? of a person who is not a lawyer."

http://calbar.ca.gov/state/calbar/calbar_generic.jsp?cid=10144&n=73788

If anyone wants to shut this guy down call the California Bar Association Attorney Complaints Number:

1-800-843-9053

Fun fun fun....

Let me start by saying that my vacation ends soon, and I will no longer be as available as I have been this week, to go back and forth answering questions.

It has been enjoyable (to some extent) answering most of these posts. Some of you have raised some very good and clever questions/concerns. I think a few of you might actually have a good career in law ahead of you, if you so choose!

That being said, here are the answers to Larry's latest post:

1) Q: Would you be so kind as to provide your actual name?

A: I have

2) Q: and what state you are licensed in? Is your company incorporated? If it is; in what state?

A: California

3) Q: If you are not an attorney, do you have any on your staff?

A: Yes.

4) Q: Could we know who they are so we can check them out through the ABA like any reputable attorney would encourage us to do?

A: No. You are not a customer, this is of no concern to you. I also have no reason to provide this information.

5) Q: If this in fact a legitimate business I would think you would be more than happy to provide basic information like this that a potential customer could use to make an informed decision.

A: When you are a potential customer, let us know, directly on our site. Our customer support team will gladly work with you in alleviating your concerns. For now I refer you back to Pay Pal, Visa, and Mastercard if you wish to check the "legitimacy" of our business. All will show a long term clean record - free of complaints, etc. That reality speaks for itself.

6) Q: And finally, why the Domains by Proxy registration?

A: We are not in a business that is beloved by the "authorities" that the destroy in court every day. Nor are we a retail business. There is no reason for anyone to need to visit us in person. Not the authorities who we're sure would love to harass us, and not you. Those are great reasons for a the DBP.

The silly and foolish angle Larry,and many of you have pursued in this thread is the one challenging whether or not our company is a scam/"legitimate" business. Again, for the umpteenth time IF we were ripping people off, neither Pay Pal or our merchant bank account provider, would be tolerating it, and we would be OUT OF BUSINESS! So this whole skepticism is clearly illogical, and has no foundation!

There have been other more logical lines of questioning throughout this thread. I commend those of you that have managed to come up with them. But this the companies "a scam" stuff has no basis, and has quite a bit of evidence to the contrary.

D.Ross CEO http://www.Speedticketbeaters.com

First you say this:
"We provide winning defenses on a daily basis, because we understand the law in a way that you do not." Now admitting you are a legal expert or you could not say "like us"-it would have to be "like them" to be accurate.


Then this:
"You do not know what my legal background is, nor do you know the background of others in this company. You do not know how extensively this company is consulted, and by whom. You do not know the legal background of those in the company writing the defense strategies. Finally, you do not understand what services we provide, and how those services relate to the law you referenced."

Then this:
"Legal experts (like us) can develop defenses based on true legal issues." See #1

So LArry calls you on it:
"It sounds like this guy is dispensing legal advice in exchange for money. Is he admitted to the bar in any state?"

And you crumble like a house of cards with this lame excuse again:
"Regarding your suggestion that what we do may somehow be practicing law without a license - You raised a seemingly logical question.
However, please keep the following in mind: You do not know what my legal background is, nor do you know the background of others in this company. You do not know how extensively this company is consulted, and by whom. You do not know the legal background of those in the company writing the defense strategies. Finally, you do not understand what services we provide, and how those services relate to the law you referenced. You need not be concerned about this issue"

Now, you can spin you alleged being in business foir 4 years all you want. I have had a registered business for 4 years myself. Big deal. I have only been at it full time for 1 year.

You can spin whatever you want about Paypal, MC, Visa all day long-means NOTHING.

You can allege to have "thousands" of customers-so can I. In reality, I only have about 100 at the moment-but I COULD say thousands also. Means nothing.

If you are speeding-you are speeding. Plain and simple. There is the occasional unfortunate one in a group of say 5 who gets bagged on a highway while "going with the flow"-but I guess someone had to take the hit if everyone was doing 80 in a 55.
You have no defense out of it. There is no "entrapment", conspiracy to make you speed, whatever crap you want to pull out of your a*s next.
I have actually gotten out of 2 tickets just by admitting to the officer that I knew he pulled me for speeding. A far more "legitimate" way out of a speeding ticket than any conspiracy theory.

If you are such a legit business, why would you worry about disclosing you location? There is no good excuse for that one.

You are a scam and have proven so by not just refundung Jes her money-though had she not been speeding to begin with, she wouldn't be in this predicament.

And since no one else has said it.......very funny Dave.

First you say this:
"We provide winning defenses on a daily basis, because we understand the law in a way that you do not." Now admitting you are a legal expert or you could not say "like us"-it would have to be "like them" to be accurate.


Then this:
"You do not know what my legal background is, nor do you know the background of others in this company. You do not know how extensively this company is consulted, and by whom. You do not know the legal background of those in the company writing the defense strategies. Finally, you do not understand what services we provide, and how those services relate to the law you referenced."

Then this:
"Legal experts (like us) can develop defenses based on true legal issues." See #1

So LArry calls you on it:
"It sounds like this guy is dispensing legal advice in exchange for money. Is he admitted to the bar in any state?"

And you crumble like a house of cards with this lame excuse again:
"Regarding your suggestion that what we do may somehow be practicing law without a license - You raised a seemingly logical question.
However, please keep the following in mind: You do not know what my legal background is, nor do you know the background of others in this company. You do not know how extensively this company is consulted, and by whom. You do not know the legal background of those in the company writing the defense strategies. Finally, you do not understand what services we provide, and how those services relate to the law you referenced. You need not be concerned about this issue"

Now, you can spin you alleged being in business foir 4 years all you want. I have had a registered business for 4 years myself. Big deal. I have only been at it full time for 1 year.

You can spin whatever you want about Paypal, MC, Visa all day long-means NOTHING.

You can allege to have "thousands" of customers-so can I. In reality, I only have about 100 at the moment-but I COULD say thousands also. Means nothing.

If you are speeding-you are speeding. Plain and simple. There is the occasional unfortunate one in a group of say 5 who gets bagged on a highway while "going with the flow"-but I guess someone had to take the hit if everyone was doing 80 in a 55.
You have no defense out of it. There is no "entrapment", conspiracy to make you speed, whatever crap you want to pull out of your a*s next.
I have actually gotten out of 2 tickets just by admitting to the officer that I knew he pulled me for speeding. A far more "legitimate" way out of a speeding ticket than any conspiracy theory.

If you are such a legit business, why would you worry about disclosing you location? There is no good excuse for that one.

You are a scam and have proven so by not just refundung Jes her money-though had she not been speeding to begin with, she wouldn't be in this predicament.

And since no one else has said it.......very funny Dave.

I read the post you cited; it doesn't say anything except "you don't know..." ; which is not an answer to the question, it's an evasion of it. Educate us please.

Would you be so kind as to provide your actual name and what state you are licensed in? Is your company incorporated? If it is; in what state?

If you are not an attorney, do you have any on your staff? Could we know who they are so we can check them out through the ABA like any reputable attorney would encourage us to do?

If this in fact a legitimate business I would think you would be more than happy to provide basic information like this that a potential customer could use to make an informed decision. Any attorney who works for such a successful enterprise would jump at the chance to take credit for the results of his skills.

And finally, why the Domains by Proxy registration? Yes, there are legitimate uses for it but it's also a handy way for scammers to hide their identity from the casual observer.

I read the post you cited; it doesn't say anything except "you don't know..." ; which is not an answer to the question, it's an evasion of it. Educate us please.

Would you be so kind as to provide your actual name and what state you are licensed in? Is your company incorporated? If it is; in what state?

If you are not an attorney, do you have any on your staff? Could we know who they are so we can check them out through the ABA like any reputable attorney would encourage us to do?

If this in fact a legitimate business I would think you would be more than happy to provide basic information like this that a potential customer could use to make an informed decision. Any attorney who works for such a successful enterprise would jump at the chance to take credit for the results of his skills.

And finally, why the Domains by Proxy registration? Yes, there are legitimate uses for it but it's also a handy way for scammers to hide their identity from the casual observer.

I read the post you cited; it doesn't say anything except "you don't know..." ; which is not an answer to the question, it's an evasion of it. Educate us please.

Would you be so kind as to provide your actual name and what state you are licensed in? Is your company incorporated? If it is; in what state?

If you are not an attorney, do you have any on your staff? Could we know who they are so we can check them out through the ABA like any reputable attorney would encourage us to do?

If this in fact a legitimate business I would think you would be more than happy to provide basic information like this that a potential customer could use to make an informed decision. Any attorney who works for such a successful enterprise would jump at the chance to take credit for the results of his skills.

And finally, why the Domains by Proxy registration? Yes, there are legitimate uses for it but it's also a handy way for scammers to hide their identity from the casual observer.

Tom I admit I was using the term entrapment in a loosey goosey, slang way. You are correct the legal definition of entrapment has variables that make my use of the word questionable. However, my overall point is still correct. If a county has not dotted their I's and crossed their T's properly, in advance of writing citations their citations cannot be upheld.
For me to explain this in great detail on this forum would be me giving away the keys to the Kingdom for free. I obviously cannot do that. Suffice to say, if you are unfortunate enough to get a speeding ticket contacting us would be a good idea.

Robert We at Speedticketbeaters.com have proven this statement If the cop shows up, you're going to pay. It may not happen 100% of the time, but even a dedicated gambler knows the odds of winning are slim. INCORRECT THOUSANDS of times. You are wrong.

Chris re: Legitimate businesses have no problem putting their contact info out there. THE NATURE OF OUR BUSINESS MAKES DISCLOSING OUR BRICK AND MOTAR LOCATION A BAD IDEA! THE LEGITIMACY OF OUR BUSINESS CAN BE GLEANED FROM OUR CLEAN RECORD WITH PAY PAL, AND OUR MERCHANT ACCOUNT BANK/VISA AND MASTERCARD.

Larry Maybe you should read entire threads before posting silly statements like this. Had you done so you would have noticed that I already posted the reply below, in response to the identical question earlier:

Regarding your suggestion that what we do may somehow be practicing law without a license - You raised a seemingly logical question.
However, please keep the following in mind: You do not know what my legal background is, nor do you know the background of others in this company. You do not know how extensively this company is consulted, and by whom. You do not know the legal background of those in the company writing the defense strategies. Finally, you do not understand what services we provide, and how those services relate to the law you referenced. You need not be concerned about this issue.

Kristin re: And why can't people thinking of using the service have this info. That alone makes you a scam artist THEY CAN AND DO. HOWEVER, YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW! AND RE: THE 2ND HALF OF YOUR STATEMENT I'D WATCH WHAT I SAY IF I WERE YOU. THAT IS A SERIOUS ALLEGATION, FROM ONE WITH NO HARD INFORMATION TO SUPPORT THE STATEMENT.

Charles re: Are you trying to say that the county, etc are breaking the law by POSTING speed limits? Are you trying to say there should be no speed limits? Are you saying some kid driving his Mustang 120 MPH is not breaking the law and is being entrapped?? NO, NONE OF THOSE. BUT FRANKLY, WHAT I AM SAYING IS SIGNIFICANTLY OVER YOUR HEAD IN TERMS OF LEGAL KNOW HOW, AND UNDERSTANDING. IT IS ALSO NOT INFORMATION WE CAN OFFER HERE FOR FREE.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Tom I admit I was using the term entrapment in a loosey goosey, slang way. You are correct the legal definition of entrapment has variables that make my use of the word questionable. However, my overall point is still correct. If a county has not dotted their I's and crossed their T's properly, in advance of writing citations their citations cannot be upheld.
For me to explain this in great detail on this forum would be me giving away the keys to the Kingdom for free. I obviously cannot do that. Suffice to say, if you are unfortunate enough to get a speeding ticket contacting us would be a good idea.

Robert We at Speedticketbeaters.com have proven this statement If the cop shows up, you're going to pay. It may not happen 100% of the time, but even a dedicated gambler knows the odds of winning are slim. INCORRECT THOUSANDS of times. You are wrong.

Chris re: Legitimate businesses have no problem putting their contact info out there. THE NATURE OF OUR BUSINESS MAKES DISCLOSING OUR BRICK AND MOTAR LOCATION A BAD IDEA! THE LEGITIMACY OF OUR BUSINESS CAN BE GLEANED FROM OUR CLEAN RECORD WITH PAY PAL, AND OUR MERCHANT ACCOUNT BANK/VISA AND MASTERCARD.

Larry Maybe you should read entire threads before posting silly statements like this. Had you done so you would have noticed that I already posted the reply below, in response to the identical question earlier:

Regarding your suggestion that what we do may somehow be practicing law without a license - You raised a seemingly logical question.
However, please keep the following in mind: You do not know what my legal background is, nor do you know the background of others in this company. You do not know how extensively this company is consulted, and by whom. You do not know the legal background of those in the company writing the defense strategies. Finally, you do not understand what services we provide, and how those services relate to the law you referenced. You need not be concerned about this issue.

Kristin re: And why can't people thinking of using the service have this info. That alone makes you a scam artist THEY CAN AND DO. HOWEVER, YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW! AND RE: THE 2ND HALF OF YOUR STATEMENT I'D WATCH WHAT I SAY IF I WERE YOU. THAT IS A SERIOUS ALLEGATION, FROM ONE WITH NO HARD INFORMATION TO SUPPORT THE STATEMENT.

Charles re: Are you trying to say that the county, etc are breaking the law by POSTING speed limits? Are you trying to say there should be no speed limits? Are you saying some kid driving his Mustang 120 MPH is not breaking the law and is being entrapped?? NO, NONE OF THOSE. BUT FRANKLY, WHAT I AM SAYING IS SIGNIFICANTLY OVER YOUR HEAD IN TERMS OF LEGAL KNOW HOW, AND UNDERSTANDING. IT IS ALSO NOT INFORMATION WE CAN OFFER HERE FOR FREE.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Tom I admit I was using the term entrapment in a loosey goosey, slang way. You are correct the legal definition of entrapment has variables that make my use of the word questionable. However, my overall point is still correct. If a county has not dotted their I's and crossed their T's properly, in advance of writing citations their citations cannot be upheld.
For me to explain this in great detail on this forum would be me giving away the keys to the Kingdom for free. I obviously cannot do that. Suffice to say, if you are unfortunate enough to get a speeding ticket contacting us would be a good idea.

Robert We at Speedticketbeaters.com have proven this statement If the cop shows up, you're going to pay. It may not happen 100% of the time, but even a dedicated gambler knows the odds of winning are slim. INCORRECT THOUSANDS of times. You are wrong.

Chris re: Legitimate businesses have no problem putting their contact info out there. THE NATURE OF OUR BUSINESS MAKES DISCLOSING OUR BRICK AND MOTAR LOCATION A BAD IDEA! THE LEGITIMACY OF OUR BUSINESS CAN BE GLEANED FROM OUR CLEAN RECORD WITH PAY PAL, AND OUR MERCHANT ACCOUNT BANK/VISA AND MASTERCARD.

Larry Maybe you should read entire threads before posting silly statements like this. Had you done so you would have noticed that I already posted the reply below, in response to the identical question earlier:

Regarding your suggestion that what we do may somehow be practicing law without a license - You raised a seemingly logical question.
However, please keep the following in mind: You do not know what my legal background is, nor do you know the background of others in this company. You do not know how extensively this company is consulted, and by whom. You do not know the legal background of those in the company writing the defense strategies. Finally, you do not understand what services we provide, and how those services relate to the law you referenced. You need not be concerned about this issue.

Kristin re: And why can't people thinking of using the service have this info. That alone makes you a scam artist THEY CAN AND DO. HOWEVER, YOU ARE NOT ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE RIGHT NOW! AND RE: THE 2ND HALF OF YOUR STATEMENT I'D WATCH WHAT I SAY IF I WERE YOU. THAT IS A SERIOUS ALLEGATION, FROM ONE WITH NO HARD INFORMATION TO SUPPORT THE STATEMENT.

Charles re: Are you trying to say that the county, etc are breaking the law by POSTING speed limits? Are you trying to say there should be no speed limits? Are you saying some kid driving his Mustang 120 MPH is not breaking the law and is being entrapped?? NO, NONE OF THOSE. BUT FRANKLY, WHAT I AM SAYING IS SIGNIFICANTLY OVER YOUR HEAD IN TERMS OF LEGAL KNOW HOW, AND UNDERSTANDING. IT IS ALSO NOT INFORMATION WE CAN OFFER HERE FOR FREE.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

I'm still trying to understand where you are coming from with this.

QUOTE: "Anyone who is speeding IS breaking the law." - FRANKLY, THIS IS NOT TRUE. WHEN THE COUNTY BREAKS THE LAW FIRST, TO ENABLE THE TICKET TO BE WRITTEN, IT IS ENTRAPMENT. THIS PRACTICE INVALIDATES A COUNTIES ABILITY TO ENFORCE ANY "LAW", RELATING TO THE CITATION.

Help me understand your response here. Are you trying to say that the county, city, state are breaking the law by POSTING speed limits on their respective roadways?? Are you trying to say there should be no speed limitations on our roadways?? Are you trying to say that some kid driving his new Mustang GT 120 MPH on a 70 MPH highway is not breaking the law and is being entrapped??

Quoting:
"- give real contact info - ALL OF OUR CONTACT INFO IS AVAILABLE TO PAYING CUSTOMERS.

- give full text of the TOS - ALL POLICIES ARE PROVIDED TO PAYING CUSTOMERS."

And why can't people thinking of using the service have this info. That is poor business practice there and should throw up a lot of red flags to any perspective client since that can't even get the simplest of information before giving money. That alone makes you a scam artist

It sounds like this guy is dispensing legal advice in exchange for money. Is he admitted to the bar in any state?

Sounds like someone is practicing law without a license. Isn't that a felony? Maybe e-mail to some state Bar Associations is in order.

Of course since the business is so legitimate that the owner chose to use Domains by Proxy to avoid disclosing his identity or whereabouts in the whois database

No one should have to be a PAYING customer to have simple contact information for a business. Good consumers like to check things out beforehand! Why so reluctant? Because the actual address is your mother's basement? Legitimate businesses have no problem putting their contact info out there. We shouldn't have to "pay" you for it!

No one should have to be a PAYING customer to have simple contact information for a business. Good consumers like to check things out beforehand! Why so reluctant? Because the actual address is your mother's basement? Legitimate businesses have no problem putting their contact info out there. We shouldn't have to "pay" you for it!

No one should have to be a PAYING customer to have simple contact information for a business. Good consumers like to check things out beforehand! Why so reluctant? Because the actual address is your mother's basement? Legitimate businesses have no problem putting their contact info out there. We shouldn't have to "pay" you for it!

No one should have to be a PAYING customer to have simple contact information for a business. Good consumers like to check things out beforehand! Why so reluctant? Because the actual address is your mother's basement? Legitimate businesses have no problem putting their contact info out there. We shouldn't have to "pay" you for it!

The Judges have heard every story possible, and every "loophole defense" there is. They don't care.

If the cop shows up, you're going to pay. It may not happen 100% of the time, but even a dedicated gambler knows the odds of winning are slim.

You'd be far better off by not driving like a nut. I speed all the time, but I rarely get pulled over. I don't go more than 10 mph over the limit on highways, and no more than 5 over everywhere else. The only times I get pulled over are when I go MORE than 10 mph over the limit on highways.

Cops don't like getting out of their cars. Doing so puts them in danger. They want to go home, just like everyone else.

To Dave,

""Anyone who is speeding IS breaking the law." - FRANKLY, THIS IS NOT TRUE. WHEN THE COUNTY BREAKS THE LAW FIRST, TO ENABLE THE TICKET TO BE WRITTEN, IT IS ENTRAPMENT. THIS PRACTICE INVALIDATES A COUNTIES ABILITY TO ENFORCE ANY "LAW", RELATING TO THE CITATION."

It would be interesting to know exactly what laws are being broken when someone is pulled over for speeding. However, putting that aside, even if the county did break some law by pulling somone over for speeding it still would not be entrapment.

The legal definition for entrapment is
"in criminal law, the act of law enforcement officers or government agents to induce or encourage a person to commit a crime when the potential criminal expresses a desire not to go ahead. The key to entrapment is whether the idea for the commission or encouragement of the criminal act originated with the police or government agents instead of with the criminal."

In order for it to be considered entrapment three things must occur:

- First, the idea for committing the crime came from the government agents and not from the person accused of the crime.

- Second, the government agents then persuaded or talked the person into committing the crime. Simply giving him the opportunity to commit the crime is not the same as persuading him to commit the crime.

- And third, the person was not ready and willing to commit the crime before the government agents spoke with him.

Since the officer would have no way of comunnicating with the speeder until after they were pulled over for speeding I don't see how they would have been able to convince that person to speed in the first place.

It amazes me how many people cry entrapment when they were just caught doing something illegal of their own free will.

Jes

I am on vacation this week, and here in the Pacific time zone, it is still reasonably early. This is why I can answer you at these odd hours. This is why you think I am in my basement. I am actually at a resort!

I have really tried to accommodate your request to find a way to eliminate your ticket (and if not able), to procure a refund. You have been invited numerous times, to contact us directly instead of airing your dirty laundry in public. You outright refuse to do so. You have also repeatedly stated in your posts on this forum that you refuse to do the things necessary in the legal arena to beat the ticket. There is not much our company who can do for a customer who both refuses our help, and refuses to help themselves.

Unless and until you decide to contact us DIRECTLY I can no longer respond to your concerns.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

This response is to Almas latest inaccurate set of allegations:

Note to Alma:

- fire your web designer - WILL CONSIDER.

- give real contact info - ALL OF OUR CONTACT INFO IS AVAILABLE TO PAYING CUSTOMERS.

- give full text of the TOS - ALL POLICIES ARE PROVIDED TO PAYING CUSTOMERS.

- do not make false references - WE DON'T. ALL OF OUR TESTIMONIALS ARE REAL. IF ANY OF THOSE SENDING US ARE PROVIDING FALSE NAMES/INFO, WE ARE NOT AWARE. NONETHELESS, ALL OF THE CONTENT OF THOSE TESTIMONIALS WERE COMMUNICATED TO US VIA EMAIL, TELEPHONE, ETC.

- offer other payment methods than Pay Pal - WE DO. WE TAKE VISA AND MASTERCARD ON THE PHONE, PROCESSING BITH THROUGH OUR BANK MERCHANT ACCOUNT.

- do not garantee anything - WE GUARANTEE TO WIN OR WE REFUND THE CUSTOMER. WE PRESUME THAT IS A FAIRER ARRANGEMENT FOR OUR CUSTOMERS THAN NOT DOING SO.

- if you can provide only CA materials, limit your business to CA - WE PROVIDE COMPLETE DEFENSE MATERIALS FOR ALL 50 STATES. WE DO NOT KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THE IDEA THAT WE DON'T.

On a side note, to Charles (the Officer in GA):

I appreciate you coming forward and setting many of these posters straight, about the feasibility of beating tickets, etc. Re: your comments:

"Anyone who is speeding IS breaking the law." - FRANKLY, THIS IS NOT TRUE. WHEN THE COUNTY BREAKS THE LAW FIRST, TO ENABLE THE TICKET TO BE WRITTEN, IT IS ENTRAPMENT. THIS PRACTICE INVALIDATES A COUNTIES ABILITY TO ENFORCE ANY "LAW", RELATING TO THE CITATION.

"Your company basicly helps them try to get out of it by identifying any mistakes or loopholes which may have been overlooked by the officer." - AGAIN NOT ENTIRELY TRUE. SOMETIMES THIS IS THE CASE, BUT OFTEN OUR DEFENSE MATERIALS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY MISTAKE MADE BY THE OFFICER/S.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

This response is to Almas latest inaccurate set of allegations:

Note to Alma:

- fire your web designer - WILL CONSIDER.

- give real contact info - ALL OF OUR CONTACT INFO IS AVAILABLE TO PAYING CUSTOMERS.

- give full text of the TOS - ALL POLICIES ARE PROVIDED TO PAYING CUSTOMERS.

- do not make false references - WE DON'T. ALL OF OUR TESTIMONIALS ARE REAL. IF ANY OF THOSE SENDING US ARE PROVIDING FALSE NAMES/INFO, WE ARE NOT AWARE. NONETHELESS, ALL OF THE CONTENT OF THOSE TESTIMONIALS WERE COMMUNICATED TO US VIA EMAIL, TELEPHONE, ETC.

- offer other payment methods than Pay Pal - WE DO. WE TAKE VISA AND MASTERCARD ON THE PHONE, PROCESSING BITH THROUGH OUR BANK MERCHANT ACCOUNT.

- do not garantee anything - WE GUARANTEE TO WIN OR WE REFUND THE CUSTOMER. WE PRESUME THAT IS A FAIRER ARRANGEMENT FOR OUR CUSTOMERS THAN NOT DOING SO.

- if you can provide only CA materials, limit your business to CA - WE PROVIDE COMPLETE DEFENSE MATERIALS FOR ALL 50 STATES. WE DO NOT KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THE IDEA THAT WE DON'T.

On a side note, to Charles (the Officer in GA):

I appreciate you coming forward and setting many of these posters straight, about the feasibility of beating tickets, etc. Re: your comments:

"Anyone who is speeding IS breaking the law." - FRANKLY, THIS IS NOT TRUE. WHEN THE COUNTY BREAKS THE LAW FIRST, TO ENABLE THE TICKET TO BE WRITTEN, IT IS ENTRAPMENT. THIS PRACTICE INVALIDATES A COUNTIES ABILITY TO ENFORCE ANY "LAW", RELATING TO THE CITATION.

"Your company basicly helps them try to get out of it by identifying any mistakes or loopholes which may have been overlooked by the officer." - AGAIN NOT ENTIRELY TRUE. SOMETIMES THIS IS THE CASE, BUT OFTEN OUR DEFENSE MATERIALS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY MISTAKE MADE BY THE OFFICER/S.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

This response is to Almas latest inaccurate set of allegations:

Note to Alma:

- fire your web designer - WILL CONSIDER.

- give real contact info - ALL OF OUR CONTACT INFO IS AVAILABLE TO PAYING CUSTOMERS.

- give full text of the TOS - ALL POLICIES ARE PROVIDED TO PAYING CUSTOMERS.

- do not make false references - WE DON'T. ALL OF OUR TESTIMONIALS ARE REAL. IF ANY OF THOSE SENDING US ARE PROVIDING FALSE NAMES/INFO, WE ARE NOT AWARE. NONETHELESS, ALL OF THE CONTENT OF THOSE TESTIMONIALS WERE COMMUNICATED TO US VIA EMAIL, TELEPHONE, ETC.

- offer other payment methods than Pay Pal - WE DO. WE TAKE VISA AND MASTERCARD ON THE PHONE, PROCESSING BITH THROUGH OUR BANK MERCHANT ACCOUNT.

- do not garantee anything - WE GUARANTEE TO WIN OR WE REFUND THE CUSTOMER. WE PRESUME THAT IS A FAIRER ARRANGEMENT FOR OUR CUSTOMERS THAN NOT DOING SO.

- if you can provide only CA materials, limit your business to CA - WE PROVIDE COMPLETE DEFENSE MATERIALS FOR ALL 50 STATES. WE DO NOT KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THE IDEA THAT WE DON'T.

On a side note, to Charles (the Officer in GA):

I appreciate you coming forward and setting many of these posters straight, about the feasibility of beating tickets, etc. Re: your comments:

"Anyone who is speeding IS breaking the law." - FRANKLY, THIS IS NOT TRUE. WHEN THE COUNTY BREAKS THE LAW FIRST, TO ENABLE THE TICKET TO BE WRITTEN, IT IS ENTRAPMENT. THIS PRACTICE INVALIDATES A COUNTIES ABILITY TO ENFORCE ANY "LAW", RELATING TO THE CITATION.

"Your company basicly helps them try to get out of it by identifying any mistakes or loopholes which may have been overlooked by the officer." - AGAIN NOT ENTIRELY TRUE. SOMETIMES THIS IS THE CASE, BUT OFTEN OUR DEFENSE MATERIALS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY MISTAKE MADE BY THE OFFICER/S.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

This response is to Almas latest inaccurate set of allegations:

Note to Alma:

- fire your web designer - WILL CONSIDER.

- give real contact info - ALL OF OUR CONTACT INFO IS AVAILABLE TO PAYING CUSTOMERS.

- give full text of the TOS - ALL POLICIES ARE PROVIDED TO PAYING CUSTOMERS.

- do not make false references - WE DON'T. ALL OF OUR TESTIMONIALS ARE REAL. IF ANY OF THOSE SENDING US ARE PROVIDING FALSE NAMES/INFO, WE ARE NOT AWARE. NONETHELESS, ALL OF THE CONTENT OF THOSE TESTIMONIALS WERE COMMUNICATED TO US VIA EMAIL, TELEPHONE, ETC.

- offer other payment methods than Pay Pal - WE DO. WE TAKE VISA AND MASTERCARD ON THE PHONE, PROCESSING BITH THROUGH OUR BANK MERCHANT ACCOUNT.

- do not garantee anything - WE GUARANTEE TO WIN OR WE REFUND THE CUSTOMER. WE PRESUME THAT IS A FAIRER ARRANGEMENT FOR OUR CUSTOMERS THAN NOT DOING SO.

- if you can provide only CA materials, limit your business to CA - WE PROVIDE COMPLETE DEFENSE MATERIALS FOR ALL 50 STATES. WE DO NOT KNOW WHERE YOU GOT THE IDEA THAT WE DON'T.

On a side note, to Charles (the Officer in GA):

I appreciate you coming forward and setting many of these posters straight, about the feasibility of beating tickets, etc. Re: your comments:

"Anyone who is speeding IS breaking the law." - FRANKLY, THIS IS NOT TRUE. WHEN THE COUNTY BREAKS THE LAW FIRST, TO ENABLE THE TICKET TO BE WRITTEN, IT IS ENTRAPMENT. THIS PRACTICE INVALIDATES A COUNTIES ABILITY TO ENFORCE ANY "LAW", RELATING TO THE CITATION.

"Your company basicly helps them try to get out of it by identifying any mistakes or loopholes which may have been overlooked by the officer." - AGAIN NOT ENTIRELY TRUE. SOMETIMES THIS IS THE CASE, BUT OFTEN OUR DEFENSE MATERIALS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY MISTAKE MADE BY THE OFFICER/S.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

I wrote a long reply to Michelles most recent post earlier today. It was submitted at the same time that I submitted my above reply to Alma. For some reason it has not been posted, so I am going to re-do it now in a streamlined version.

Michelle alleged that our site is 3 (not 4) years old. She is incorrect, but she does have a logical reason for thinking that she was right. Our site changed servers and registration info after its 1st year online. As a result our current registration info would lead one to believe the site was created 3 years ago. But it is actually 4 years old.

Michelle intimated that our company's only payment account is through Pay Pal, when we actually have a full blown merchant account as well. Her reason for thinking this is my fault. I typed a typo in one of my above posts that read neither merchant account company OF Pay Pal It should have read neither OUR merchant account OR Pay Pal. If I had typed that correctly the first time, Michelle would have understood that the fact that Pay Pal does not protect virtual goods is NOT the loophole that has kept us in business. Our merchant account bank (which DOES protect virtual goods) would have part of our business activities if we were defrauding anyone. So there is no loophole.

Michelle challenged the notion that any valid defenses can be devised for a speeding ticket, short of going back in time and changing the posted signs, etc. She is just plain wrong. Legal experts (like us) can develop defenses based on true legal issues. As a result of these defenses, our clients win most of their cases. Again this is proven by our clean record with Pay Pal and our merchant account bank. Both of whom would have heard hundreds of complaints by now if this was not correct. We would have been out of business as a result of those complaints.

Michelle said that lawyers often need refresher courses just to begin to have a grip of traffic law since it is not a part of their law school educations. If she had read our site closely she would have seen that several lawyers have posted testimonials on our website. One of them makes exactly the same point Michelle does. Only here's the part Michelle didn't count on. Much of OUR business IS teaching lawyers how to handle traffic law!

Michelle said that state troopers know traffic law better than anyone, because they deal with it all day. She is completely incorrect, and we prove that in court on a daily basis!

Michelle said I and my company's website are a joke. We'll we have managed to be one very successful joke! Our record speaks for itself.

On a side note, Chris demands detailed answers to Almas questions. Unfortunately Chris, this website is not ours. We have no logical reason to post enormous posts full of refund policies, corporate information, etc on this website. In the end Chris, you are not a customer. You have no need to read all of that info, nor do we have any obligation to provide all of it to you. When you consider the abuse I have taken in some of these posts, I believe I am being more than fair even answering all of the questions that I have answered. That too, soon will stop.

You know I have never slammed anyone that wrote anything on the ROR, no matter how stupid the post. But this thread is one for the books, this guy D.Ross at Speedticketbeaters.com has got to have one of the most stupid a*s web sites on the Internet, and he is a Moron with a capital "M". $75 to beat a speeding ticket because our courts and judges are corrupt? If I had not read and saw it for myself I would have called anyone a liar that such a stupid a*s web site even exists, much less that people send this clown $75. And what a liar, so many lies, just the one about "4 years", like we can't read a whois report on his domain? Speedticketbeaters.com, Created on: 15-Jan-04. That's three years stupid not four.

Just when you really thought you had read and seen it all some Moron like D.Ross comes along and takes stupid to a new level, LOL... To take money from good honest people for such a farce and a scam, I have truly seen it all now.

Dear Mr. Ross,
thank you for your reply. By avoiding all of my simple questions, you gave very clear answers.

Let me start with this: I do not question your knowledge of traffic law. My problem with the interface of your business, your scam/ripoff looking site. This is the type of web site, that costumers should run away from.

Unfortunately parading around here as the CEO of a succesfull company with thousands of happy clients - without providing any proof, does not help to improve those bad impressions.

Since my last visit here, I have checked out your testimonials. Somehow I was not able to verfy even one of them. Your happy clients either gave you false names/addresses or did not have speeding ticket in the last 4 years, or never heard about you.

The "lawyer"s testimony is so ridiculous, that I nominated it to my favorite scam fighter site's "Hall of Shame" collections. (Btw his name is false too.) I gave full credit to your site.

Note to your web designer.
To avoid scam undertone of a site, avoid:

- cheap design
- using different fonts to post testimonials, to hint that those are from different people
- using "It is a scam" section
- having that lenghty "ZERO tolerance policy..."
threatening people who are not thrilled by your service (You are the one who makes fool of yourself with this website.)

Note to you.
To improve your credibility:

- fire your web designer
- give real contact info
- give full text of the TOS
- do not make false references
- offer other payment methods than Pay Pal
- do not garantee anything
- if you can provide only CA materials, limit your business to CA


Ok, I rest my case. Out for a long ride...

P.S.: To anybody who recommends the OP to send her court documents. Would you send your legal paper to a total stranger? Without any credit, reference? Who provides only an e-mail address as contact info?

Dear Mr. Ross,
thank you for your reply. By avoiding all of my simple questions, you gave very clear answers.

Let me start with this: I do not question your knowledge of traffic law. My problem with the interface of your business, your scam/ripoff looking site. This is the type of web site, that costumers should run away from.

Unfortunately parading around here as the CEO of a succesfull company with thousands of happy clients - without providing any proof, does not help to improve those bad impressions.

Since my last visit here, I have checked out your testimonials. Somehow I was not able to verfy even one of them. Your happy clients either gave you false names/addresses or did not have speeding ticket in the last 4 years, or never heard about you.

The "lawyer"s testimony is so ridiculous, that I nominated it to my favorite scam fighter site's "Hall of Shame" collections. (Btw his name is false too.) I gave full credit to your site.

Note to your web designer.
To avoid scam undertone of a site, avoid:

- cheap design
- using different fonts to post testimonials, to hint that those are from different people
- using "It is a scam" section
- having that lenghty "ZERO tolerance policy..."
threatening people who are not thrilled by your service (You are the one who makes fool of yourself with this website.)

Note to you.
To improve your credibility:

- fire your web designer
- give real contact info
- give full text of the TOS
- do not make false references
- offer other payment methods than Pay Pal
- do not garantee anything
- if you can provide only CA materials, limit your business to CA


Ok, I rest my case. Out for a long ride...

P.S.: To anybody who recommends the OP to send her court documents. Would you send your legal paper to a total stranger? Without any credit, reference? Who provides only an e-mail address as contact info?

Dear Mr. Ross,
thank you for your reply. By avoiding all of my simple questions, you gave very clear answers.

Let me start with this: I do not question your knowledge of traffic law. My problem with the interface of your business, your scam/ripoff looking site. This is the type of web site, that costumers should run away from.

Unfortunately parading around here as the CEO of a succesfull company with thousands of happy clients - without providing any proof, does not help to improve those bad impressions.

Since my last visit here, I have checked out your testimonials. Somehow I was not able to verfy even one of them. Your happy clients either gave you false names/addresses or did not have speeding ticket in the last 4 years, or never heard about you.

The "lawyer"s testimony is so ridiculous, that I nominated it to my favorite scam fighter site's "Hall of Shame" collections. (Btw his name is false too.) I gave full credit to your site.

Note to your web designer.
To avoid scam undertone of a site, avoid:

- cheap design
- using different fonts to post testimonials, to hint that those are from different people
- using "It is a scam" section
- having that lenghty "ZERO tolerance policy..."
threatening people who are not thrilled by your service (You are the one who makes fool of yourself with this website.)

Note to you.
To improve your credibility:

- fire your web designer
- give real contact info
- give full text of the TOS
- do not make false references
- offer other payment methods than Pay Pal
- do not garantee anything
- if you can provide only CA materials, limit your business to CA


Ok, I rest my case. Out for a long ride...

P.S.: To anybody who recommends the OP to send her court documents. Would you send your legal paper to a total stranger? Without any credit, reference? Who provides only an e-mail address as contact info?

David, I would like to comment on some of your posts. First of all, I am a police officer, have been for the last 17 years. This is the first time I have ever heard of a company like yours. Basicly, you guys are mail order attorneys. From what I have read, I agree with you to a point. Except for one thing. Anyone who is speeding IS breaking the law. Your company basicly helps them try to get out of it by identifying any mistakes or loopholes which may have been overlooked by the officer. You cant convince me or any prudent person that all speeding tickets are fraudulent and ALL can be beaten. Do officers make mistakes? ABSOLUTELY. Can speeding tickets be beaten? ABSOLUTELY. I'll bet you get 17,18,19 year old kids contacting you who are looking at a court date where they might be facing revocation because they have 3 or 4 or 6 speeding tickets and are willing to pay anything to keep from losing their licence. You cany tell me that they are completely innocent of the charges. Just like people who order those things online that promise to keep you from getting a positive drug test.
I agree that there is corruption in the law enforcement industry and with the court system and I commend your company in helping to identify mistakes to where someone who is actually innocent may not be held liable for something that they are not responsible for. But to promise to get someone off of a speeding violation every time is ripping them off. Seventeen years going to traffic court, I have NEVER seen even the best attorneys get their clients off every time.

David, I would like to comment on some of your posts. First of all, I am a police officer, have been for the last 17 years. This is the first time I have ever heard of a company like yours. Basicly, you guys are mail order attorneys. From what I have read, I agree with you to a point. Except for one thing. Anyone who is speeding IS breaking the law. Your company basicly helps them try to get out of it by identifying any mistakes or loopholes which may have been overlooked by the officer. You cant convince me or any prudent person that all speeding tickets are fraudulent and ALL can be beaten. Do officers make mistakes? ABSOLUTELY. Can speeding tickets be beaten? ABSOLUTELY. I'll bet you get 17,18,19 year old kids contacting you who are looking at a court date where they might be facing revocation because they have 3 or 4 or 6 speeding tickets and are willing to pay anything to keep from losing their licence. You cany tell me that they are completely innocent of the charges. Just like people who order those things online that promise to keep you from getting a positive drug test.
I agree that there is corruption in the law enforcement industry and with the court system and I commend your company in helping to identify mistakes to where someone who is actually innocent may not be held liable for something that they are not responsible for. But to promise to get someone off of a speeding violation every time is ripping them off. Seventeen years going to traffic court, I have NEVER seen even the best attorneys get their clients off every time.

I just got popped for doing 100 MPH in a school zone. Broad daylight, middle of the week. No one hurt. Well, not seriously. Well, not fatally. Them kids are resilient and bounce right back up.
Well, most of 'em.

I just bought a new Corvette (I call her Darlene) and I was just stretching her legs. Can you blame me? Who wouldn't? She's the fastest thing this side of the Pecos. Yee haw!

The cop was a real piece of work. Had this crusty attitude and kept giving me the fish eye.
He claims I called him "doughnut boy" when he gave me the ticket. I say I said "Thank you, sir. May I have another?" Even so, to my way of thinking, "doughnut boy" is a compliment. Well, it should be. Maybe he was having a bad day after hearing about the local Krispy Kreme burning to the ground after the grease trap spontaneously combusted. Again. What am I, a mind reader?

Dave, I needs me some legal incantations. Help me help you help me fight "THE MAN!" Pronto would be super.

Happy motoring to all those listening in on the party line.

P.S. The cop says the judge is his grade school buddy and they play pinochle every Tuesday night. Should I be worried?

Why not answer those simple questions now? They're perfectly legitimate questions! Why must we have a ticket in order to receive a response about your business?

Michelle -

I am likely about to cease responding to your posts as they are full of insults and ignorance.

Nonetheless, I'll attempt to set you straight one more time:

- I DID mean we've been in business for 4 years when I said so. The reason you INCORRECTLY believe us to have been in business for 3 years, is because our site was not originally registered to the hosting/domain company it currently is. Nor was it registered to the registrar it currently is. So you are forming your conclusion from incorrect information! If you had access to all of our info, you would know that we are in our 4th year.

- When I wrote in an earlier post "merchant account company of Pay Pal", I had typed a TYPO! CLEARLY I meant to type "merchant account company
OR Pay Pal". Now that you see the real statement I meant to type, you no doubt understand that merchant accounts get canceled if there are numerous complaints. So obviously, THERE AREN'T! Your theory that we remain in business due to Pay Pal policies about virtual good, JUST FELL APART!

- Regarding your incorrect belief that nothing can be said and done that forms a valid legal defense for a speeding ticket. That ridiculous defenses like "the world was spinning faster than normal"
are all you could imagine coming up with, etc. This is why you are a cop, which requires very little education, and we are legal experts. We know and understand the law fully and are able to find the exploitable legal angles. This is significantly over your head, and way outside the range of your understanding.

- Re: Your comment about lawyers not having a thorough education on traffic law. Our site has a testimonial or 2 written by lawyers, saying precisely that. They go on to acknowledge that they came to US to teach them the laws they do not know! We have handled tickets for lawyers, and retired cops. Cops including state troopers do not know the first thing about law, in any realm! That is why prosecutors in every city in the U.S expose cops on the witness stand on a daily basis, as having screwed up arrests. They do not know the law, and how to get it right each time. In short, cops are not the brightest bulbs in the batch, as you have demonstrated.

- This "idiot" of a CEO, and "pure joke" of a
website, have somehow managed to be extraordinarily successful beating speeding charges. Again, this is evidenced by the now 4 year long clean record this company has with
all authorities, after thousands of transactions.
There is simply no way for your to explain or argue with that! Everyone should be lucky enough to be as big an "idiot" as me. They'd all be doing
quite well.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

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Alma -

All of the information you requested is provided to those who contact us through our website, with a ticket that needs a defense.

If that is the information you seek, you'll get it when you have a ticket and need to speak with us. Which of course I do not wish on you (the having a ticket part).

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

You state, "This is easily proven by the fact that we have remained in business for nearly 4 years." (Did you mean almost 3 years? as you put up your lame site in Jan 2004)

You also stated, neither merchant account company of Pay Pal have seen the need to shut our accounts. (Your an idiot. Virtual goods aren't protected by refunds like tangible items would be according to paypal's policy. This loop hole is what has kept you in business thus far.)

You stated, "But your own words throughout your post demonstrate that you do not see that there are laws in the U.S, requiring judges to rule based on law, not on their "friendship" with the DA's and Officers."

You also stated, "if a customer comes to court, with a correct and solid defense, that forces a judge to look at the law, that customer wins. We have proven this THOUSANDS of times, through THOUSANDS of wins."

Sir that is the biggest bunch of B.S. that I have read yet. When someone is caught speeding. What kind of defense are you going to put up? - The world was spinning faster than normal? - The tires are bigger than normal and resulted in registering the wrong speed. (What's that 3-4 mph over at most and at that speed most officers wouldn't waste their time pulling people over any way. Duh!)

If the law was about who is "friends" with whom, and who was "nice and polite" to whom, there would be no need for a U.S constitution. People would have to simply "make friends" with their local police, judges, and DA's, and they would escape all kinds of criminal charges!

The owner of the website is certainly an idiot. He state's that his family is made up of lawyers and police officers.

He should know as any intelligent person would know that Lawyers often attend Law enforcement classes in order to understand traffic law. Traffic law isn't something they study in great depth in law school. Traffic law is handled by state troopers everyday.

It is quite clear cut when it comes to a speeding violation. Putting up a good defense doesn't mean crap. If your caught speeding. What can a lawyer do? - Go back in time and change the Posted Speed signs?

This guy and website is a pure joke!

Jes -

I really do not think it is best for your privacy, and for getting the most thorough legal information to you, that you and I go back and forth discussing your case on this forum. Again I invite you to contact us directly.

That being said, a judge whos attitude towards the real laws of the U.S was "whoop de doo", and acted like your correct legal argument was a bunch of BS - is NOT evidence of OUR ineptitude. Nor is it evidence of yours. It is evidence that you were in a "Kangaroo court", where "the fix was in".

Unfortunately, traffic court is full of this kind of corruption, and intentional ignorance of the law by judges. You need to understand that the only reason they write these tickets is to steal your money! They are quite committed to doing so, and will do almost anything to keep their scam going.

The auto insurance companies also part take in fleecing you. The benefit to them is they get to raise your rates. So in order to create more opportunities for them to do so, THEY (the insurance companies) buy the cops radar guns,
and laser devices, and send them to the the departments as "gifts"! The cops know full well that their job in the scam is to help the city to your wallet. They take their "gifts", and go out and over enforce crooked speed limits to get the revenue going. If you guys reading this really want to dig into a "rip off" scam, look at your local police department, and traffic court!

So, as I was already suspecting, your problem here is the crooked county you live in, not our defense! We have ways to overcome these crooked judges, and get you moving towards an appeal victory. However, you chose not to avail yourself of the rest of the service we were willing to provide you. That too is not our fault!

We really hate hearing these horror stories from traffic courts. It is DESPICABLE that people like Michelle come on a forum like this, and attempt to persuade all of you to be "sheep" and play along with this "law enforcement" scam. The unjust nature of what is going on, was precisely the reason we started our company!

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Dear Mr. Ross,
would you be kind to provide some info about your business?
a/ Your company's name. (Copyrigt@2007 by WHOM?)
I tried to find your company in California State business registry, with no success. I assume it is different from your web site's name.
b/ Can you give us your toll free number, you refer on the web site? Any other contact info?
c/ Can you give us the details of your "Terms and conditions?" (I could find only a "Terms & conditions apply" reference.)
d/ Can you give any example when you were mentioned in tv, radio?
e/ "As Seen on TV" does not advertise services. What kind of connection do you have to them?
f/ Do you accept VISA or MasterCard? If yes, should not you use those logos? If not, then why do you refer to your excellent standing with them?

Thanks.

re: John -

If you lose due to leaving out a SIGNIFICANT piece of the defense, or by adding something that is damaging - you are correct we do not refund. Both of these circumstances would result in a loss in court, that is the fault of the customer. It would not be fair for us to be responsible for that. BUT your statement that if the customer loses in court, and did everything right we blame a corrupt court, and still don't refund is INCORRECT.

If the customer used the defense properly, all we ask is that they contact us and get us the details of what happened in court. We can then examine what the judges basis was for ruling against what we believe was a correct defense. Often, we can then help the customer get a reversal on appeal. If we cannot, then a refund is given (regardless of whether or not the court was corrupt).

To answer your other question, yes we have given refunds. However, not very many. That is mainly because our customers do not seem to lose often.

re: Juliet -

Thank you for your comments here. I'm trying to be fair about Jes' concerns, and to clear up the answers to others questions.

I apologize for the typos, etc. They are happening because I am typing these myself (as opposed to having my assistant do it). I am a bad typist, and
tend not to re-check what I wrote. Most of the typos are happening in sentences I began writing, then changed, and didn't re-look and see that it screwed up the grammar!

re: Mike -

You are not understanding U.S law. Indiana has not formally adopted the 2003 MUTCD. BUT all that means is that they are still working under the 2000 MUTCD. NO state in the ENTIRE U.S is allowed to make up their own traffic laws, that contradict the National MUTCD. They are allowed to have a state manual, but it must comply with all Natl MUTCD rules. It can add to them, but not remove from or alter them. This is why when you drive from Arizona to New Mexico, you do not find that New Mexico has decided to create their own state speed limit of 85MPH, or make all stop signs blue instead or red. THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO.

The 2000 MUTCD is identical to the 2003 MUTCD on the issues that affect speeding cases, so Jes was given the correct information in this regard.

See below for the current status of Indiana and the MUTCD adoption process. Note that it clearly shows that Indiana is in "substantial conformance" with the Natl MUTCD, and that their state supplement consists of the Natl MUTCD plus additions.

So your finding/s are not a basis for Jes receiving a refund.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

re: John -

If you lose due to leaving out a SIGNIFICANT piece of the defense, or by adding something that is damaging - you are correct we do not refund. Both of these circumstances would result in a loss in court, that is the fault of the customer. It would not be fair for us to be responsible for that. BUT your statement that if the customer loses in court, and did everything right we blame a corrupt court, and still don't refund is INCORRECT.

If the customer used the defense properly, all we ask is that they contact us and get us the details of what happened in court. We can then examine what the judges basis was for ruling against what we believe was a correct defense. Often, we can then help the customer get a reversal on appeal. If we cannot, then a refund is given (regardless of whether or not the court was corrupt).

To answer your other question, yes we have given refunds. However, not very many. That is mainly because our customers do not seem to lose often.

re: Juliet -

Thank you for your comments here. I'm trying to be fair about Jes' concerns, and to clear up the answers to others questions.

I apologize for the typos, etc. They are happening because I am typing these myself (as opposed to having my assistant do it). I am a bad typist, and
tend not to re-check what I wrote. Most of the typos are happening in sentences I began writing, then changed, and didn't re-look and see that it screwed up the grammar!

re: Mike -

You are not understanding U.S law. Indiana has not formally adopted the 2003 MUTCD. BUT all that means is that they are still working under the 2000 MUTCD. NO state in the ENTIRE U.S is allowed to make up their own traffic laws, that contradict the National MUTCD. They are allowed to have a state manual, but it must comply with all Natl MUTCD rules. It can add to them, but not remove from or alter them. This is why when you drive from Arizona to New Mexico, you do not find that New Mexico has decided to create their own state speed limit of 85MPH, or make all stop signs blue instead or red. THEY ARE NOT ALLOWED TO.

The 2000 MUTCD is identical to the 2003 MUTCD on the issues that affect speeding cases, so Jes was given the correct information in this regard.

See below for the current status of Indiana and the MUTCD adoption process. Note that it clearly shows that Indiana is in "substantial conformance" with the Natl MUTCD, and that their state supplement consists of the Natl MUTCD plus additions.

So your finding/s are not a basis for Jes receiving a refund.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Yes, I also had a copy of a traffic speed and engineering copy signed and cited as evidence that no speed survey had ever been conducted on that road. The judge was like whoop de doo! Nobody even cared. I submitted case laws from California because that's all I was provided with and it said if the judge objects they were from California you were supposed to tell them that it doesn't matter because all the states follow the same rules and I did all of this. Anyway, if you don't believe I did it right why don't one of you people order this service the next time you get a speeding ticket and try it out.

I didn't come on here asking for a refund. I don't need the money. The reason I came on here is to let people know it didn't work for me, as a warning. I'm not stating it wouldn't work for someone else. I'm just letting others know in case they are curious that it didn't work for me. I'm not trying to sell or unsell your product. I just think from the moment I opened up my mouth the judge and prosecting attorney thought everything I said was a bunch of BS.

A very quick check with Google suggests that Indiana is one of three states that has not adopted the MUTCD. Now I could be wrong with this, but if that is indeed true, you have given Jes some bad advice to cite the MUTCD in an Indiana case. She deserves at the least a full unconditional refund.

Personally, I'm rather impressed with the owner's responses. They've been clear, cogent, and if there are misspellings, they aren't as blatant and rife as a lot of owner rebuttals.

David keeps offering to help Jess, but she just keeps not wanting to mess with it.

Why SHOULD she get a refund without any proof of error on the part of the company?

Yes, some things DO have "money back if you're not satisfied" offers, but in this type of service, well, it wouldn't be logical, in any way. If they DO make that offer, and now won't stand behind it, absolutely a ripoff.

But David keeps responding, which is more than many owners do. He isn't ranting and raving, and he has offered to help the original poster. She keeps declining.

It does sound like she did something wrong, and knows it. Either she WAS speeding, or she misspoke in court, or both.

I'm not trying to make a comment as to whether the nature of the business is legitimate or not, I don't know.

But the owner KEEPS responding, without hostility. He's made offers to work things out. That's not "typical scam owner" behavior, or even "owner behavior" on this site, whether it's truly a scam or not.

Nice job, David!

If you lose due to leaving something out there is not a refund.

If you lose to adding some extra in there is not a refund

If you lose and did everything exactly right that means the court is corrupt and there is not a refund?

Why even claim you give refunds? Have you ever given a refund?

John -

It is a shame that you speak with such authority about things you do not know. The result is that you give ill informed advice to people on this forum.

a) Pay Pal does NOT tolerate numerous complaints from customers that a company utilizing their service, is "ripping off" and "scamming" customers. If Pay Pal was seeing any indication that that is what we are doing, they WOULD cancel our ability to process transactions through them. You are simply wrong.

b) We have a regular bank merchant account as well. Banks do not allow continuing transactions via merchant accounts, if Visa and Mastercard are reporting complaints that the company is defrauding its customers.

Again, you are simply incorrect. Our business could not survive if there was any "regular stream " of complaints that we do not provide a worthwhile service.

We are not happy to hear of the experience Jes had in court, if it happened as she described. Of course we have no way to know what actually happened because for some reason Jes refuses to contact us directly, and provide either a transcript or at minimum a direct statement to us.

IF her court experience was exactly as she says,
there is already an indication in her posting, that she was in front of a corrupt judge. An obvious example of this is her comment that the judge claimed "to not even know what the MUTCD is".

There is no traffic court judge in the U.S that does not know what the MUTCD, as the MUTCD makes all the rules for the roads in the U.S. Everything ruling a traffic court judge makes all is in the end dependent on MUTCD guidelines. A judge that fails to acknowledge this has their rulings reversed in higher courts, all month. This can lead to their removal from the bench!

So obviously, if the judge in Jes' cases claimed he never heard of the MUTCD, he was lying.

Jes likely has an exploitable angle for reversal of the ruling by a judge displaying "intentional" ignorance of the law.

If Jes had followed our instructions (which she is still invited to do) and contact us directly - We more than likely can lead her on a path to an appeal victory in her case.

Instead of you calling for us to refund her, why aren't you calling for her to do that?

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Seems there is an absolute way to get a refund here and David has given Jes that opportunity several times..

Turning in some paperwork and records to determine that the service was used properly does not seem so out of line. Also, if there is a possibility to overturn the ruling, why wouldn't Jes want THAT?

Jes, have you submitted the things David needs to determine:
- if the service was used properly?
- if it's possible to overturn the ruling?
- if a refund is due?

Again, I don't think submitting the requested info is too much to ask.

Whatever. Yeah right, like I didn't go to court. I'm sure I'm going to pay $75.00 for your services and not even show up. I tried to get my money back and you told me to try to get another trial and there was no way I was going to go through that embarassment. Everything you told me to say looked phony in court. As the people stated above I would have just been better off being myself instead of using your schemes. I'm sure you would look at the transcript and if I so much as stuttered that would be reason enough for you to not give me my money back.

Let's just wait and see what other people have to say. I'd just like to warn others what happened to me, so maybe they will think twice before purchasing your services. You replied to my posts at odd hours in the morning. Which leads me to believe you are operating this "business" out of your basement.

Just because Paypal doesn't suspend ytou doesn't mean your legit. Jes, if you paid throught paypal file a complaint through them that you were ripped off. Paypal will not suspend anybody because their agreements make sure they are not responsible. Look at all the EBAY ripoffs for proof.

If this company claims they can beat EVERY ticket they should be reported. This OWNER is trying to save his own business and only cares about his bottom line by ripping off vulnerable people.

Jes -

I did invite you in an earlier post to come forward and contact us directly with the full details of your experience in court. I even said you would not be required to provide a transcript.

Instead of doing that now (or at any time in the period since your court case) you have chosen to write these posts.

Your clear desire to avoid providing the details of what happened in court using the defense materials - is suspicious to say the least. There appears to be a reason you do not want us to know and examine whether or not you followed the instructions, or even went to court at all.

You are again invited to provide us the details so we can properly evaluate what happened and why. Then the possibly that you may be owed a refund is real, and something that can actually be considered.

Might I also add, that part of how we improve as a service provider is by hearing from customers what happened in court.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Mike -

Your solution (just give the customer a refund, with no further thought) may seem simple and obvious, but it is not quite as you see it.

You must remember that ours is not a product like the fictional gadget you described. Ours is a service. Furthermore, it is a service thats results are dependent on both the customer properly following the instructions, and the court recognizing/acknowledging the legal accuracy, of the defense.

True, our company is more than profitable enough to absorb a refund. But if our company were to get in the habit of simply refunding any customer that comes forward claiming it didn't work for them, we would quickly no longer be profitable. If that were the policy, any (and every) customer could come forward and claim it did not work out (even if it did) and we would be giving hundreds of refunds a year.

We have found over several years, and thousands of transactions at this point, that our policy is fair and works well. The customer simply has to come forward, and provide us the details of their in court experience. We can then at least determine if they used the defense properly, and fully. We can also determine if there is still a way to reverse the conviction, and get them out of the ticket (which again is their true goal). In some cases we have been able to get such reversals. In cases where the customer truly did things right, and our defense was the problem, we gladly return the customers payment. This has not happened very often, because our defenses usually work.

That leads me nicely to your next point. In short, Michelle is simply wrong, and your feeling her notion is accurate is also incorrect. If you are going to say that you believe that it is not (or rarely) possible to win in traffic court, using a defense strategy - You (along with Michelle) need to explain how it is that we are achieving this?

Again, as I stated in an earlier rebuttal, if our service was not working - there would have been hundreds of complaints at this point to Pay Pal, Visa, Mastercard, etc. But there are no such complaints. Our accounts with all of the above are clean as a whistle, and free of complaints. That should answer your question about whether or not the service works.

Regarding your suggestion that what we do may somehow be practicing law without a license - You raised a seemingly logical question.
However, please keep the following in mind:

You do not know what my legal background is, nor do you know the background of others in this company. You do not know how extensively this company is consulted, and by whom. You do not know the legal background of those in the company writing the defense strategies. Finally, you do not understand what services we provide, and how those services relate to the law you referenced.
You need not be concerned about this issue.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

Why can't I just have my money back. I spent hours memorizing the information. I went to court and had to go three times because I had to go to all of the other hearings and not take the "plea bargain" because I was so sure I was going to win with your proven system.

I had to sit in the courtroom with a bunch of thugs and freaks waiting for my turn. I had to take 2-3 half days at work to do this. Not only did I have to pay the speeding ticket, I also got stuck with a fine and court costs for going to trial. I paid over $100.00 extra just to lose which really pissed me off.

Oh, and there was also the embarrasment factor. I stood up and defended myself thinking I knew what I was talking about. I dressed up and everything.

I tried to get my money back but I had to provide a transcript for everything I said. I knew they they analyze and pick it apart and try to find something wrong with it. Also, not only that, they wanted me to try to get a retrial and there was no way in hell I was going to do that after what I went through....

David, you could defuse this situation readily by simply giving Jes her money back. If someone buys some high-tech gadget at a local store and it doesn't work for them, the store won't berate the consumer for not knowing how to use it. They just make a refund, very few questions asked. If your system is so successful in the majority of cases, it won't hurt you to refund a few.


Now on to the subject of speeding ticket defense. I'm with Michelle here. IN THEORY the same legal procedures and protections are in place for the defendant in any criminal charge, be it speeding or capital murder. IN PRACTICE, traffic court judges play loose with the law. This is usually to the defendant's benefit. When I've been in court to defend myself, I saw nearly everyone "beat" their speeding ticket with simple defenses like "I didn't think I was going that fast," or "I didn't notice the speed limit sign." A considerable number of those were dismissed outright, and all the rest the judge would at least reduce the mph so it was a much lower penalty. He would just cross out what the police wrote on the ticket and write in a lower number.

The only people who got the full penalty were those who tried elaborate, "canned" defenses. This was probably Jes's experience as well.

The best thing to do would be to go to a session of court before your court date and sit in the audience. See what works best. Then hope you get the same judge when it's your turn.

The whole conspiracy thing is good to sell stuff but I'm not buying it. First the judge gets paid the same whether he finds you guilty or not. Like Michelle noticed, it was apparent that this judge did not like certain of the police officers and he would rarely side with them. Second when insurance companies want more money they can and do just raise EVERYONE'S rates. There's no need to justify it at all.

There is certainly a lot of abuse by the officials but I can't outright consider speed laws to be frivolous. There are a lot of people out there going so fast that it is dangerous to the rest of us. My experience has been that if I'm not going much faster than everyone else, even if that is 10 or 15 over the speed limit, I'll go right past a speed trap just like everyone else. If they pulled the "small potatoes" over, they might miss the big money one that's doing triple digits.

Also taking money to advise people what to say in court, when you're not a lawyer, can lead to big trouble.

I would have to agree with Michelle. I made a mistake. I was just looking for simple ways to beat my speeding ticket when I happened to stumble on that site. I have nothing against the police. I thought I could beat my traffic ticket but now I have realized that it's not possible and I drive the speed limit (most of the time.) There is no website that is going to make you beat your speeding ticket.

I had copies even of the materials that were supposed to work in court and the MUTCD, which by the way the judge really did not know what that was. I was a big joke when I went to court. I was not sure if thise was going to work but I spent numerous hours studying the materials that I paid $75.00 for. I'm a highly educated person so it's not as though I didn't understand the instructions.

If you are really so legit and your service worked you would not have to spend hours on this site defending yourself. I'm sure not everyone has lost from your cases, but you should not guarantee a win for everyone. Just because you are still in business doesn't mean you don't suck. People get ripped off everyday by online internet companies. As long as you can justify what you are doing with diclaimers nobody probably is going to go as far as to sit around and fight it all day. All I know is I got scammed by this site and also by clickbank which has about 10 pages worth of complaints from other people. I don't sit around ordering internet services all day. Clickbank doesn't reply to the responses they receive. I'm sure someone else will respond soon, and talk about how they also were scammed by Speedticketbeaters.....

Michelle -

If you are correct, please explain how it is that our company has over the past several years, provided THOUSANDS of customers, legal defense material/s, that have now beaten THOUSANDS of tickets? This is easily proven by the fact that we have remained in business for nearly 4 years, and neither our merchant account company of Pay Pal have seen the need to shut our accounts. Wouldn't both have had numerous complaints over the last several years, resulting in our accounts being closed, if our service wasn't doing its job?

Your work in law enforcement is to be commended - when you are actually protecting the citizenry from real crime and harm. But your own words throughout your post demonstrate that you do not see that there are laws in the U.S, requiring judges to rule based on law, not on their "friendship" with the DA's and Officers.

Again, if a customer comes to court, with a correct and solid defense, that forces a judge to look at the law, that customer wins. We have proven this THOUSANDS of times, through THOUSANDS of wins.

If the law was about who is "friends" with whom, and who was "nice and polite" to whom, there would be no need for a U.S constitution. People would have to simply "make friends" with their local police, judges, and DA's, and they would escape all kinds of criminal charges!

In fairness to you, you are not a lawyer. My own family members are made up of both lawyers, and police officers. Both sides of my family would explain to you that police officers do not understand the law - lawyers do.

We provide winning defenses on a daily basis, because we understand the law in a way that you do not. We then can provide materials that are above your knowledge and understanding, but are easily understood by a judge (as judges do have law backgrounds). Those judges recognizing their obligation to rule on law, not on "friendship" release our clients from responsibility for the violation/s they were accused of.

We have even handled tickets for ex police officers, who did not know how on real legal issues to defend themselves.

One of the most common phone calls we get, is customers telling us that the judge told them, that their defense was the most well put together he has seen in his court for a speeding ticket.

We hope for your sake you do not find yourself up against one of our defenses, when you write your next citation. It will not be a pleasant experience for you.

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

I have a background in Law enforcement. Let me make a suggestion to the SpeedTicketBeaters.com website. Shut down and stop scamming people.

Now, Here is how it works...

If your caught speeding. You have a few choices. You can plea. You can pay it off. Or you can fight it.

If you fight it. I would stongly suggest looking into the creditability of the police officer that issued the citation. If the police officer has a good reputation in court as far a being truthful and factual, There's not a chance in H*LL that your going to beat it.

Police/Judges/Da/Lawyers, work together every day and know each other very well. The DA will usually ask the officer what he thinks of the person that he issued a citation to. If the officer says that the person was a jerk and shouldn't get off. More than likely your not going to get off.

On the other hand, If the officer says that you were nice and understanding. More than likely your going to get off with not much more than a fine if you want to plea your case.

You have idiots like the person at the SpeedTicketBeaters site who would like to make you believe that there is some magical way to beat a ticket. Well, There's not.

You should always be nice to an officer. You should always tell the truth and if you think there is an error, Present it in court. But if you were caught speeding. Don't be afraid to tell the court, "Yes, I was driving over the speed limit because....." Your honor, I am sorry and I accept my responsibility and won't let it happen again. I sincerely hope there is some way to lesson the charge because I have a family to feed.. bla bla.." - Lot's of judges will have mercy on you. If you are sincere that is...

But if you get up there and try and get out of a speeding ticket by lying, Or, by trying to dispute the police officer.. You'll probably get laughed at.

People, Don't you see it. The police/DA/Judge and lawyers work together every day on this stuff and for a lame web site owner to get up and say he knows more than they do is just flat out stupid.

You can always plea no contest to a lessor charge. You can plead for a prior for judgement. You can do a lot of things but when you try to get up there and make the officer look dumb. No one in court likes that. It is the police officer that is trusted by the state to protect and to serve. Do you think that Judges, lawyers or the Da likes people trying to put down police officers? - No and especially anyone trying to put down an officer that has a good reputation in court for being honest and truthful!

If the police officer was clearly in the wrong, Then the court will usually see it. If the officer is in the wrong much. His credibility on the stand is shot and there would be a good chance of winning. But don't bank on it. And certainly don't waste your time with Sites making claims to beating a speeding ticket. It doesn't hurt asking the DA for a lessor charge either. They are human and like all, we all do silly things from time to time. But to try and justify the silly thing by saying a silly thing is just down right silly!

Cheers! - Drive safely.

John -

I fully understand how it is that you perceive things as you described in your post. But I'd like to help you see how it actually is.

a) The customer who posted the complaint about us above, on this site is not a "lawbreaker". The reality is the police, counties, and auto insurance companies are breaking numerous laws in almost every speeding ticket case. This is done in a desperate attempt to scam people like you out your money via ticket fines and insurance increases, that then line their pockets. Speeding tickets are a giant national scam being imposed on you. The "laws" being "broken" are a "set up", arranged to entrap you into giving them your money. Again it is the them who are actually breaking the laws. We can explain this to you in much greater detail, if you contact us directly. You will then understand, that this is true.

b) This is the U.S, not Iran. You are entitled to a fair trial when accused of a crime, at which you must be proven guilty. Your perspective that you should simply "take your beating" and hand over your money (ticket fines, insurance increases) without taking advantage of your rights as a citizen, is flawed. It is very easy to prove in court how THEY broke the "laws" first, to make sure you have to pay them money (fines). This saves you money, and exposes THEM as the real scammers. There is no reason to fall for THEIR scam, and be a victim. Again, they are the ones actually breaking the law, to make sure they "get you". The customer above didn't actually break any laws, when a hard look at the law is taken.

c) Our company is not a scam, helping "lawbreakers" get away with anything. As stated above those being ripped of by the authorities are not "lawbreakers". Our company is trying hard to provide regular people like you, a correct defense to take to your constitutionally required "fair trial". We feel that this is a useful service, and it is perfectly legal. A similar example is that it is not illegal for a lawyer to go to court and make a defense argument on your behalf, when you are accused of a crime. That lawyer is exercising your constitutional right to a defense. We instead provide you a "do it yourself" defense, to use at your trial in a speeding ticket case. There is nothing illegal or in any way unseemly about that. It is your right to do so as a U.S citizen. The alternative is letting THEM get away with stealing your money through a sequence of legal scams they have set up, to steal your money!

D.Ross CEO Speedticketbeaters.com

First of all I'm a she. Second of all, I'm sure people complain about you all the time but you have to respond and remove them. I know it's a scam so I don't care what you think. I've seen before on other people's blogs this was a scam too so I know I'm not the only one. You can't even type an e-mail that's not in capital letters. All the e-mail you wrote were always in capital letters. I'm sure this is just a copied and pasted response that you use because people complain all the time. You can't even spell. I know you rip off people so whatever.

This jerk relly has the nerve to post this. First of all he is a lawbreaker. He is complaining because a comopany didn't help him get away with it and is now complaining because a scammer got money from a lawbreaker.

I am the owner of the speeding ticket website that this individual has reported in this posting.

In the 4 years we have been in business, we have run into some situations similar to the one Jes
described here, and I think I should explain how this happens.

When we provide defense material to anyone for their court appearance, we need some key things to go right in order to insure they win. For example if the customer tells us it was a radar ticket, and ultimately it becomes clear in court, that it was actually a laser ticket - we have through no fault of our own likely provided the wrong defense.

Another example would be the customer not following our defense plan. That could mean leaving out pieces of the argument, or not giving the judge some of the materials. It could also be the customer admitting in court to driving above the speed limit. Admitting to even 1 MPH above the limit is enough for judges to find the customer guilty.

Because customers often make some or all of these mistakes, our refund policy requires that we read the courts account of what the customer said in court. This protects us from handing out refunds to those who made any of the mistakes described above. Those sort of mistakes make the loss in court the customers fault. We cannot be blamed when we have provided a perfectly solid defense, and the customer makes any of the errors I described, thus destroying their own case.

Unfortunately, the courts themselves are often corrupt, and make winning (even with a correct legal argument) impossible. This is another reason we need to see a detailed accounting of what happened at the trial. If we can clearly see, that the customer followed our instructions properly, and still lost. We can often help the customer to get the judges ruling reversed on a simple appeal.

This gets the customer out of the ticket and insurance rate increase. Presumably the customer would rather achieve that, and save the thousands they were going to lose - as opposed to getting a refund from us, while still losing thousands to the court and insurance company.

This customer failed to provide us any proof of what they said and did in court. We have no way of knowing if they followed our instructions and legitimately lost. In our experience, 90 percent of the time, when a customer loses they did make one or more of the above mistakes, or the court was corrupt as described. Those things happening are not our fault. And as I already pointed out. In the case of the corrupt court, we can often help get the ruling reversed.

It would be my hope as you consider this customers complaint, that you note that they decided to avoid providing us the transcript. In the customers own words he was "sick of messing with it". At the absolute least the customer could have provided us a detailed outline of what happened in their own words. The customer failed to do that as well. This could be taken as an attempt to keep from us the truth of what happened in court.

It is simply unfair for our company to be expected to provide refunds to anyone that demands one, without us seeing some kind of proof that they really did do things right, and still lost. Otherwise what is to stop any customer from going to court, completely abandoning our defense plan - and then demanding a refund when they lose?

We have been in business for several years now. We have a merchant account, and a Pay Pal verified business account. Neither our merchant account provider or Pay Pal would be allowing us to continue to take payments through their systems, if we were generating valid complaints to either.

The reality is our company consistently provides winning defenses to our customers. We have saved thousands of people, thousands of dollars. We steadily receive customer testimonials via email, as well as lots of repeat and referral business.

Speeding tickets are being written to raise money for the cities and towns that write them. In fact the police officers writing you these tickets, are using radar guns purchased for them by auto insurance companies! That is how deep THEIR scam goes! The corruption and scam being perpetrated on Americans every day, is being done by them - not us. We work very hard to come up with creative and legally solid defenses, to help people avoid falling victim to the true "scam".

I invite this customer to provide us the full details, (even if not via transcript) of their court trial. We can then analyze what happened, and how it happened. If they really did follow our strategy properly, and still lost we can likely help them get a reversal of the ruling. If they did not make mistakes like the ones described above, but still a reversal of the ruling is not possible, a refund is a reasonable expectation.

D.Ross/CEO Speedticketbeaters.com