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Complaint Review: State of Maryland Central Collection Unit

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  • Submitted: Sun, August 28, 2011
  • Updated: Sun, February 17, 2013

  • Reported By: Carla — Oak Hill West Virginia United States of America
State of Maryland Central Collection Unit
300 West Preston Street Baltimore, Maryland United States of America

State of Maryland Central Collection Unit 13-Year-Old Insurance Lapse Scam Baltimore, Maryland

*Consumer Comment: No Statute of Limitations on State Debts

*General Comment: Problem

*Author of original report: Okay Credit Report

*Consumer Comment: File It But Don't Pay Anything On It....

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I just got a letter from the Central Collection Unit in MD telling me that I had defaulted on $5131.45.  The letter was a carbon copy and very hard to read, with some lines smudged or copied over something else.  The left side was completely illegible, but I was able to make out "VA-INS-LAPSE-DEFAULT-MASS LOAD".  I'm guessing it should have been "MVA".  Some of the numbers on the account are too faded to read.

Researching these letters led me to this site.  I think this goes back to a car I bought in MD that was totalled back in 1998, 13 years ago.  I had insurance on it while it was driveable, and I have no idea where it is now.  The insurance company I had refused to pay for the car, so I had to pay it off myself.  I left the car at the dealer's that I bought it from because there was nothing I could do with it.  I think it was Fitzgerald's Auto Mall.  They probably have the tags or something; I don't even remember anymore, it was too long ago.  I left MD when I left the Army in 2001, and this is the first I've heard anything about this. 

Before I found this site, I did some research on MD law, and found that their statute of limitations for debt collection is 3 years.  If this applies in my case, then I shouldn't have to pay anything.  Of course, I shouldn't have to pay for insurance for a car that I got rid of over a decade ago, regardless.

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#1 Consumer Comment

No Statute of Limitations on State Debts

AUTHOR: SadButTrue79 - ()

I hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but there is no Statute Of Limitations on State/Govt Debts.  If you do not pay, they will simply deduct the money from your tax refund every year, until the debt is paid off.  (It probably isn't on your credit report since 7 years has passed, but the CCU can/will continue to try to collect that money indefinitely.)

I speak from personal experience.  After 10+ years of never hearing a peep from them, I received the same carbon letter from MD CCU with a $12K+ debt (more than 1/2 of that amount was apparently fees/interest).  When I called and raised the SOL point, I was told this did not apply to them since they were GOVT... I verified that online later.  Also, I obviously did not have $12K laying around, and they refused to set up a reasonable payment plan.  As such, I haven't received my MD state tax return in a few years.  Every year, in place of refund check, I get a letter saying that my tax refund money was applied to my debt.

If you are no longer in MD, you may not have this problem, because from what I can tell, they only touch your MD tax refund... So hopefully, you won't have to worry about this.
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#2 General Comment

Problem

AUTHOR: Debbi - (USA)

I too have had this happen, my report is on here as well. It has been 14 years since we lived in MD. I fought with them on the phone along with my husband as well and we haven't heard anything since until now. Tax time. They took it out of our taxes, this weekend after 14 years with no kind of proof that I asked for from them, they just did it and now all the money that was for my sons college is gone. This makes me sick. How can these people keep getting away with this stuff this way? I feel like all of us that left the state are the ones getting punished.

Something needs to change from the way these people are so money grubbing and malicious to do things like this to so many people and get away with it. How do you fight the damn State? The Fed Government? They all know they can get away with it no matter what. We need a change! This is all only going to get worse.
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#3 Author of original report

Okay Credit Report

AUTHOR: Carla - (United States of America)

Thanks for your advice.  Because the letter was so awful-looking, my first thought was that it was some sort of identity theft.  So I took your advice and checked my credit record through Equifax.  There was absolutely nothing on that report that seemed linked to the insurance charge, or whatever it's called.  For the seven years on my report I had no debts or loans I was unaware of, no late payments, no collection agencies, no public filings, nada.  And as I kept thinking about it, I realized that it hadn't been on my credit report at any time in the last 3 years, because I checked my report each year, or saw a report from a loan officer who checked it.  This was really a bolt from the blue.

I felt hopeful when I found a Maryland attorney's website that explained the statute of limitations on debt collection.  It was 3 years since the last activity, and 12 years after a court ruling (which never happened), but I'm still nervous that this doesn't apply in my case. 

I haven't called them yet, partly because I'm trying to get all my ducks in a row first.  I will keep your advice about how to handle the phone call in mind, too; especially about any tricks to get me to make a "good faith" payment.  I am nervous, but I think it'll turn out okay now.  Someone else had mentioned that this seemed like a bug in their computer system that is going through accounts from over a decade ago and sending out automated notices, and I think they're onto something.

I just feel like I need to clarify my situation one more time:  I had insurance on my car while it was driveable, it was totalled (you couldn't even turn it on) 13 years ago, and I moved out of MD 10 years ago.  I will never pay a dime on this charge.
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#4 Consumer Comment

File It But Don't Pay Anything On It....

AUTHOR: Jim - (U.S.A.)

Your DMV sold your car registration debt to a collector...who sold it...who sold it...etc....  However, the date of determining the statute of limitations is not date of loss necessarily, but date of last payment.  In your case, they happen to be the same (it sounds like)...  What you should do:

1.  Don't pay anything on it.  EVER.  Don't even fall for their "make a good faith payment."  If you make any payment on it, the clock begins at 0 days and you've confirmed the debt as yours.  Just tell them to pound sand.

2.  Pull a copy of your credit report; go to FTC.gov and pull a copy for free.  I suspect that debt is now appearing on your report.  You need to write the 3 reporting agencies, deny the debt is yours, and have the item removed.  The item is probably affecting your credit score.

From this point on, this debt is not yours, OK??  If they call again wanting payment, let the collector know the debt isn't yours, but that you'd be happy to get a tape recorder and record the conversation...do you wish to hang on??  If they're stupid enough to hang on, include the word "harassment" as often as possible.  If they threaten to take you to court, tell them "thank you - I'll see you there!!". 

I don't think you'll have a problem with the MD DMV in getting renewal tags....if you even need them at this point.  Best of luck to you....
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