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Complaint Review: Stimulax, Stimulex, Pharmazone, Viapren

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  • Submitted: Tue, December 30, 2008
  • Updated: Fri, September 04, 2009

  • Reported By:Jackson Wyoming
Stimulax, Stimulex, Pharmazone, Viapren
9393 N. 90th St #207 Scottsdale, Arizona U.S.A.

Stimulax, Stimulex, Pharmazone, Viapren Stimulax Strips are a Scam!! Stimulax Strips are a Scam!!! DO NOT BUY!! Same company as Viapren SCAMMERS!! SCAMMERS!! Scottsdale, Arizona And Biddeford, Maine

* : ripped off info

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Nimbus is NOT aka listenup..

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: Nimbus and Listen Up

*Consumer Comment: Blame Your Parents

*Consumer Comment: Blame Your Parents

*Consumer Comment: Blame Your Parents

*UPDATE EX-employee responds: THEY WILL RIP YOU OFF.

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Stimulax Strips are sold from the same company as Viapren Strips-Pharmazone Labs through the use of Nimbus Communications (aka Listen Up). Their commercials are exactly the same as the Viapren Strips commercials. The phone numbers are identical- they have just changed the name of their products because people are starting to catch on that it is a scam. DO NOT FALL FOR IT!!

Here is the original report I posted back in October about Pharmazone Labs, Viapren Strips and Nimbus Communications (Listen Up):

If you are here it is because you have had the pleasure of dealing with Pharmazone Labs and Nimbus Communications (the virtual call centers where you first called and ended up in this situation) and you want to know what you can do.

First, DO NOT WASTE YOUR TIME BY TRYING TO CALL THEM FOR A REFUND. They will give you the run-around, they will lie to you, hang up on you and yell at you. Even if they do agree to a refund it will only be partial and you may spend weeks or months trying to get it.

Contact your bank or credit card company to dispute ALL of the charges incurred by Pharmazone, Pleasure Ring, American Leisure, Easy Saver, etc. whether it is $9.41, $1.14, $9.95, $10.55, $16.95, $48.73, $39.32 or whatever new amount they come up with.

It's inconvenient and wastes a lot of your time and energy which is what they are counting on and they assume most people will just take the loss and chalk it up to they're own stupidity. I almost did but this company has made millions of dollars that way and you shouldn't let them get away with it.

Their products do not work and they are fraudulent charges. You never entered into any agreement no matter what they tell you that you said. They'll tell you they have you on tape agreeing to everything which may be true but they don't always tell you everything. That is their scare tactic into stopping people from disputing the charges and/ or giving them refunds.

This is what you need to do if you haven't already:

1. Dispute all charges with your bank or credit card company

2. File complaint with Attorney General of State of Arizona about Pharmazone Labs at:

http://www.azag.gov/consumer/complaintform.html

3. File complaint with Federal Trade Commission under Credit Card FRAUD with Nimbus Communications and Pharmazone Labs for selling Credit Card Info without consumer knowledge or consent to marketing sites such as American Leisure and Easy Saver at:

https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/

4. File complaint with Better Business Bureau of Maine about the selling practices and fraudulent use/ charges to your credit card because of Nimbus Communications (These are the people that knowingly sell a fraudulent product and then sell your credit card info to third parties) at:

http://data.boston.bbb.org/complaint/index.asp?FirmID=99999

Info you will need for complaint:

President of Nimbus Communications: Dave Sylvain
Address: 29 Ferry Lane Biddeford, ME 04005
Phone: 800-503-9242

5. File complaint with Better Business Bureau of Arizona about the poor customer service, refund practices and general nastiness of people of Pharmazone Labs at:

https://odr.bbb.org/odrweb/public/GetStarted.aspx

6. Lastly e-mail/ call / send letters to the people who are really responsible for your misery with this contact info:

Nimbus Communications:

President: Dave Sylvain
Email: dsylvain@nimbuscommunications.com
Phones: 207-205-1752, 623-203-2486, 207-284-2883
Address: 29 Ferry Lane Biddeford, ME 04005

Director of Operations: Missy Nolette
Email: mnolette@nimbuscommunications.com
Phones: 623-203-4115, 207-590-3691
Address: 8 Alexander Dr. Biddeford, ME 04005

Director of Human Resources: Amy Fecteau
Email: afecteau@nimbuscommunications.com

Pharmazone Labs:

President: Donald Isaac
Email: disaac@pharmazonelabs.com

Silent Partner: Tim Isaac
Email: tisaac@pharmazonelabs.com
Phone: 623-203-6573
Address: 10747 W Ivory Lane Avondale, AZ 85392

Link to Recent Indictment:

http://www.usdoj.gov/usao/az/press_releases/2008/2008-005(Isaac,%20et%20al).pdf

Other Employees:

Megan Tucker: mtucker@pharmazonelabs.com
Margaret Dean: mdean@pharmazonelabs.com
Robert Marsh: rmarsh@pharmazonelabs.com
Bryan Gillette: bgillette@pharmazonelabs.com
Laura Gillette: lgillette@pharmazonelabs.com

And Lastly if you are interested I have listed a bunch of links to various complaints about Pharmazone & Viapren. Use these to comments to send to all of the above listed email addresses. It will really get to them if we all do this.

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/231/RipOff0231738.htm

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/343/RipOff0343124.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/315/RipOff0315221.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/259/RipOff0259286.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/380/RipOff0380259.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/379/RipOff0379102.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/370/RipOff0370986.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/362/RipOff0362053.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/299/RipOff0299040.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/271/RipOff0271113.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/217/RipOff0217792.htm

Peter r
Jackson, Wyoming
U.S.A.

This report was posted on Ripoff Report on 12/30/2008 08:32 AM and is a permanent record located here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/r/Stimulax-Stimulex-Pharmazone-Viapren/Scottsdale-Arizona-85258/Stimulax-Stimulex-Pharmazone-Viapren-Stimulax-Strips-are-a-Scam-Stimulax-Strips-are-a-406142. The posting time indicated is Arizona local time. Arizona does not observe daylight savings so the post time may be Mountain or Pacific depending on the time of year.

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#1

ripped off info

AUTHOR: another sucker - (USA)

David Sylvain  can be reached at 205-1653 or 205-1752  Address: Rt 9 Biddeford Maine
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#2 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Nimbus is NOT aka listenup..

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

THey are not the same company. THey don't work together either. I used to work for l.u. and they stopped selling viapren because of the legal drama. Listen up is very legit. They sell products that are legit. I cant speak for nimbus. BUt, I know nimbus and listen up are not affiliated in any way. Former employees of lu have gone to work at nimbus but they companies are not in any way affiliated or associated. Lu shouldn't be blamed for what happens with viapren and or nimbus.
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#3 UPDATE EX-employee responds

Nimbus and Listen Up

AUTHOR: Anonymous - (U.S.A.)

Everything you said in your report is true... except... Listen Up and Nimbus Communications are 2 DIFFERENT companies. A lot of the people that work at Nimbus are from Listen Up. Many of us left Listen Up to work at Nimbus to make more money. Also, Listen Up is legit that is why they don't sell Viapren anymore... and haven't for almost a year!
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#4 Consumer Comment

Blame Your Parents

AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)

Blame your parent for a flaccid, small penis that can't keep your wife or girlfriend happy. Just like with anything, it's not gonna work for everyone. The funny thing you never see anyone saying "good job". To keep balance everything should have an opposite. Like for every single small "can't get it up" penis, there is a raging erection waiting to satisfy your girlfriend or wife and that's why you really called. Where is the opposite of this website? "workedlikeacharm.com"? There isn't because the only time we take time out of our "busy" lives to come up with something like this is when we are disappointed or feel "suckered". Try saying thank-you for trying and wear your inadequate penis proudly fellas!
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#5 Consumer Comment

Blame Your Parents

AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)

Blame your parent for a flaccid, small penis that can't keep your wife or girlfriend happy. Just like with anything, it's not gonna work for everyone. The funny thing you never see anyone saying "good job". To keep balance everything should have an opposite. Like for every single small "can't get it up" penis, there is a raging erection waiting to satisfy your girlfriend or wife and that's why you really called. Where is the opposite of this website? "workedlikeacharm.com"? There isn't because the only time we take time out of our "busy" lives to come up with something like this is when we are disappointed or feel "suckered". Try saying thank-you for trying and wear your inadequate penis proudly fellas!
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#6 Consumer Comment

Blame Your Parents

AUTHOR: Mike - (U.S.A.)

Blame your parent for a flaccid, small penis that can't keep your wife or girlfriend happy. Just like with anything, it's not gonna work for everyone. The funny thing you never see anyone saying "good job". To keep balance everything should have an opposite. Like for every single small "can't get it up" penis, there is a raging erection waiting to satisfy your girlfriend or wife and that's why you really called. Where is the opposite of this website? "workedlikeacharm.com"? There isn't because the only time we take time out of our "busy" lives to come up with something like this is when we are disappointed or feel "suckered". Try saying thank-you for trying and wear your inadequate penis proudly fellas!
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#7 UPDATE EX-employee responds

THEY WILL RIP YOU OFF.

AUTHOR: Phsucks - (U.S.A.)

Hi Peter,

I am so sorry to hear about the bad experience you have had with Stimul-X. Unfortunately, that is what happens to every customer. I used to be employeed with Stimul-X for 6 months in their Scottsdale Call Center.

I guarantee their company is a complete fraud. You probably thought that you had a 10 Day Trial with the product, if they even told you about it when you placed your order. Think again, they have their computers set to send the next product to you on the 9th day. And, when you call they tell their CSR's to make up and alter the dates that you really placed your order.

So you got past that part, now you want to mail the product back. DON'T BOTHER. They will never issue you the refund of $33.33 or $39.32 or $40.46 that they promised. They just wait until they get too many chargebacks on one credit card provider and ditch that one and switch to another.

Now, they want you to keep the product for a credit of $12, $14, $16, $20, or $24. Understand that those employees get paid a commission from the hard earned money you were charged for this product if you agree to keep that product.

So you declined that and now they are telling you that they will play the recording from when you placed your initial (FREE) order. For one, they don't even have that recording, it never existed and you NEVER CONSENTED TO A 10 DAY TRIAL.

Simply thank them for their time, haha, and hang up. Then immediately call your credit card provider (VISA, MC, AMEX) and inform them that the only charge you authorized was for $9.41 for the sample order and that you never authorized $48.73, $49.87 or whatever other new amount they have come up with. You will DEFINITELY GET YOUR MONEY BACK and you don't have to deal with these people anymore.

And when finished with that and if you have time please contact the Arizona Attorney General's Office @

1275 W. Washington Street
Phoenix, AZ 85007

ATTN: CRIMINAL DIVISION, SPECIAL INVESTIGATIONS SECTION

and file A FORMAL COMPLAINT WITH THEM, they're familiar with the company already!
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