- Report: #272840
Complaint Review: Strayer University
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Strayer University Not Accredited for Business or Computer Science degrees; Difficult to transfer credits Washington, District of Columbia Internet
*General Comment: Strayer is Legit
*UPDATE Employee: scam!
*Consumer Comment: Strayer a Huge Rip-Off
*Consumer Comment: Opinion from a Graduate
*General Comment: Strayer University
*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Strayer University has Accreditation Problems
*REBUTTAL Individual responds: just an fyi
*General Comment: Regional Accreditation Isn't Enough - Lack of Specialized/Program Accreditation Hurts!
*General Comment: Strayer University is accredited
*Consumer Comment: AS A PAST STUDENT, THIS IS WHAT I EXPERIENCED
*Author of original report: Are 500 U.S. Business Institutions with AACSB accreditation just a few?
*UPDATE Employee: specialized accreditation:
*UPDATE Employee: Get the facts!
*Consumer Comment: Strayer difficult to transfer credits
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Specifically in the area of Computer Science, there is an accreditation organization called ABET, which is the trusted form of accreditation for all Engineering and Computer Science majors, and Strayer does not meet their accreditation standards. If you have Strayer credits, forget about transferring them to MIT or any other ABET-accredited university.
Not only in Corporate America, but also among professionals, Strayer is not respected either. You will be prohibited from entering professional engineering and computer science organizations such as NSBE, NSPE or many other organizations that people who work in Computer Science and Engineering fields use to network and get to know each other.
(*The same applies to all their other degree programs, including Business and Accounting.)
Bottomline: If you want your hard work to be respected, avoid schools without a guaranteed level of accreditation, such as Strayer, like a plague!
R
Silver Spring, Maryland
U.S.A.
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Search Tips#1 General Comment
Strayer is Legit
AUTHOR: trainerjay - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, December 20, 2012
Strayer like many colleges do have a few poor professors, admissions officers, and other campus positions. I have attended a local community college and Temple University in my past as well. Temple University is by far the worst college in my experience. I remember paying over $3,000 for a Phys Ed class where all we did was play duck duck goose for 2hrs.
Strayer does have some poor admission officers and professors. The college is primarily for returning adults. As an adult it is YOUR responsibility to get as much as you can from the course. If you choose not to open or purchase the book, that is your decision. Just because you may not need to read the chapter to answer discussion questions doesn't mean you shouldn't. Admission officers are glorified sales people. Their job is to recruit students to register for classes. Like any profession, some are better than others. Is every engineer at Microsoft the best in the industry without flaws? I think not.
I have not had any issues as far as employers mentioning my degree from Strayer. Furthermore, the degree typically only gets you the interview or in the door. Its the individual that gets the job. If you are not persuasive and confident in your interview, a degree from Yale won't get you the job.
It sounds to me that this forum is filled with a bunch of people who lack accountability. Stop blaming the professor, the dean, the admissions officers for problems. If they say your transcript was not received, check the tracking number to confirm the day and time it was delivered. If you were not smart enough to send a transcript with tracking, then it's your fault from the beginning. As a student at the university, you have a good idea of when classes begin and end. If an admissions officer has not contacted you for classes, stop whining and pick up the phone or go online and register yourself. When you begin working in the real world and your boss does not call you to and say you need to be here tomorrow at 8am, does this mean it's their fault and you don't have to show?
Take responsibility, stop complaining, and carve out your own path. No one else is going to create your destiny. If you need a big name school who over-charges for their tuition just to get a job, than apply to Harvard and stop looking else where. The majority of my friends went to big name schools such as Penn State or Maryland. Not only do they have mountains of unpaid debt but most are working for enterprise rental car making 28K/year. Me, I'm very happy with my Strayer degree, zero school debt, and my 6-figure salary.
#2 UPDATE Employee
scam!
AUTHOR: unhappywithstrayer - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, May 22, 2012
#3 Consumer Comment
Strayer a Huge Rip-Off
AUTHOR: ConsumerHawk - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, November 04, 2011
Anyway, half-way through my classes I received an email saying they were dropping me from my classes for lack of a high school transcript, despite having confirmed receiving my request for transcripts. Strayer then was going to charge me approximately $2600.00 for the two classes that 1.) were not even counting towards credit and 2.) were dropped due to no fault of my own. Well, the guy that had contacted me initially was the guy who confirmed receiving my request for transcript. When I asked my high school Alma Mater if they had received notice, they alas had received no request of transcripts from the school.
I have since transferred to a more accredited non-for-profit school. When asked if I needed to request a transcript from Strayer despite receiving 0 credits from them, they said "No, they have no credibility with us". The fact is Strayer is a for-profit "university" that will try to milk your money.
#4 Consumer Comment
Opinion from a Graduate
AUTHOR: Al - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Sunday, April 10, 2011
When I attended Strayer, most of the teachers seemed to have actually worked in their fields. They seemed to have real experience, and shared many anecdotes. Some teachers did simply assign reading and offered little beyond the books. The financial aid process was always too confusing to understand but my education was always funded. The administrative staff were seldom able to help me understand anything beyond where to sign my name. They had a real book store at the time. Graduating with my Bachelor's Degree was a high point in my life.
The degree alone does NOT prepare you for a good job, and this is true of any school. I have spent the last decade learning to program computers in a popular language. Though schools will have a programming course or two, no student can claim that as a qualification. You'll have to spend years studying beyond the IT degree on your own or find an entry-level job that allows you to learn (but you'll still find yourself studying on the side as virtually no employers provide training). Again, the degree simply opens doors and gives a general understanding of a profession. Typical students of Strayer often have work experience already, and simply want to degree to move ahead.
Unfortunately, from what my wife tells me, this school seems to be in decline. She is beginning her third quarter and has found the staff to be very incompetent, including some teachers. Whereas I didn't have any credits to transfer, she has many and had to go deal with the runaround to get them properly allocated. It's the same story with the finance people. They give her wrong information and can't seem to ever get her classes funded on time. They keep wanting her to sign promissory notes (loans directly from Strayer, not the government or banks) to fill in the gaps until money arrives from official lending sources. The books are now Strayer-branded and very expensive. They have structured the textbook system to make it impossible to shop around or, in many cases, even buy them used. Teachers are often unresponsive or slow to reply via email. Homework assignments are often done online, but the teachers will fail to "open" it up until the day before it's due (or similarly stressful shortcomings). My wife doesn't feel too good about her future in this school.
My wife is now open to shopping around for another school. She decided to complete the current quarter but will visit other schools in the area over the next couple of months. If she finds one she likes better, there is a good chance Strayer will loser her business. If she sees immediate and sweeping improvements, they might keep her for the two years she'll need to get her degree.
#5 General Comment
Strayer University
AUTHOR: Erika87 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Saturday, December 11, 2010
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#6 REBUTTAL Owner of company
Strayer University has Accreditation Problems
AUTHOR: Xanadu2011 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Friday, September 24, 2010
However, a few years ago Strayer went public and embarked on an expansionist policy in order to make money for its executives and shareholders. It opened mini-campuses throughout the southeastern United States. The corporate headquarters for the university and for its parent, Strayer Education, Inc., were relocated to Arlington, Virginia. The headquarters for its Online Division was set up in an industrial park in Newington, Virginia.
Thus, Strayer now came under the Southern Association of Schools and Colleges, or SACS, which accredits all colleges in Virginia and a number of other southern states. Strayer has refused to apply to SACS for accreditation, maintaining it is still "located" in Washington, D.C.
Strayer also lacks accreditation for its business programs from the Association for the Advancement of Schools of Business (AACSB). Among other things, that means its graduate business credits will not transfer to most other colleges and universities.
#7 REBUTTAL Individual responds
just an fyi
AUTHOR: kecward78 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, May 05, 2010
#8 General Comment
Regional Accreditation Isn't Enough - Lack of Specialized/Program Accreditation Hurts!
AUTHOR: John - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Monday, January 18, 2010
Educational credentials, in the form of a degree, may diminish some in importance as a hiring candidate's professional experience grows. However, it always remains a very important element in considering someone for hiring. The proper degree (that matches the job) from an excellent college or university reinforces and can add substantially to a candidate's professional experience. Likewise, a degree mismatch, or one from a weak college/university detracts from the value of a candidate's professional experience. Professional experience and prior job performance does not stand alone, no matter how extensive it may be. The school at which a person obtained their post-secondary education can substantially add or detract from it.
Lack of specialized or specific degree program accreditation, such as ABET, hurts the value of a degree that would fall under that accreditation (in the case of ABET, it's Computer Science, Engineering and the Sciences). There are major corporations that won't consider someone qualified if there is a specialized accreditation for their degree, but the school that granted it doesn't have that specialized accreditation. There are other major corporations in which that person might be hired, but will always be a "second class employee" with advancement and promotions limited to a specific lower level (I've worked for two corporations in which this is strict policy).
There are four major academic societies which are considered a form of accreditation because of the academic requirements imposed on an institution in order to belong to them: Phi Beta Kappa (Liberal Arts and Sciences), Tau Beta Pi (Engineering), Sigma Xi (Sciences), and Phi Kappa Phi (all disciplines). Only the very top students at an institution belonging to them are invited to join these academic honor societies. Even though a hiring candidate may not have been inducted into one of them, the school and their degree program belonging to one of these societies is another enhancement to the value of their degree. In other words, it coattails on the school itself meeting the academic standards to be a member institution in that honor society.
An on-line, non-traditional, or for-profit college or university may have a regional accreditation, but that's a very basic requirement for the diploma to be worth the linen on which it's printed. These schools would get a lot more respect if they "went the extra mile" to achieve and maintain specialized and program-specific accreditations, and membership in the applicable academic honor societies. A school can claim it meets the requirements for one or more of these, but it's unsubstantiated without the proof of actually having the accreditation or belonging to the honor society. Students that expend the academic effort and pay the tuition cost of a degree from schools without these credentials get an "accredited" degree, which might be better than none at all, but end up less competitive in workplace hiring and promotion decisions, sometimes much less competitive. I've seen it happen, many times.
#9 General Comment
Strayer University is accredited
AUTHOR: ProfPike64 - (United States of America)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, January 12, 2010
(((Redacted)))
(Search for Strayer University at the site below)
http://ope.ed.gov/accreditation/Search.aspx
(Thesis (DRP) guidelines)
https://icampus.strayer.edu/files/drp_3.20.09.pdf
Prof. A. Pike
My advice for anyone seeking to leap frog from schools is to attend a junior college with several matriculation or official transfer agreements so that the maximum number of credits may transfer. The real issue is not about Strayer University only having MACHE accreditation and not other optional specialty accreditations such as AACSB, but rather it is about students not always taking the time to see if their plans are actually feasible. Is an introductory English class from Harvard equivocal to that of NYU or that of a community college? Some say yes, but it is up to the college you are seeking to transfer to decide.
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#10 Consumer Comment
AS A PAST STUDENT, THIS IS WHAT I EXPERIENCED
AUTHOR: Michaelmeyers31 - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 20, 2008
#11 Author of original report
Are 500 U.S. Business Institutions with AACSB accreditation just a few?
AUTHOR: R - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, October 08, 2008
#12 UPDATE Employee
specialized accreditation:
AUTHOR: Merpf101 - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Tuesday, October 07, 2008
Please note the following talking points if you are asked about specialized accreditation:
*Strayer University is regionally accredited by the Middle States Commission on Higher Education. Regional accreditation is granted by one of six U.S. regional accrediting bodies, and represents accreditation for the institutions and all of the programs it offers, across all of its locations.
Other institutions accredited by Middle States include Columbia, Princeton, and Penn State.
*AACSB and ABET are specialized or programmatic accreditations, often associated with a professional organization. They are optional, although certain institutions do select to pursue them.
*AACSB is an optional specialized accreditation for business schools. The AACSB standards are designed to align with the mission of research
institutions with an emphasis on faculty scholarship and research. As a University with a mission focused on access, teaching, and the ability to provide instruction from qualified practitioners of business, Strayer
University's goals do not align with AACSB's priorities. Only a small proportion of business schools seek and/or are approved for AACSB
accreditation.
*ABET is an optional specialized accreditation for engineering, applied science, computing, and technology education. Strayer University does not have ABET accreditation, but our IS programs were designed to be consistent
with ABET standards (where applicable). ABET is primarily viewed as an accreditation for engineering programs, and as such it does not necessarily fit the mission of Strayer University's programs.
*Strayer is licensed through each of the states in which it operates. It is further licensed through the Commonwealth of Virginia to offers its classes and programs online.
#13 UPDATE Employee
Get the facts!
AUTHOR: Consumer313 - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Wednesday, August 13, 2008
#14 Consumer Comment
Strayer difficult to transfer credits
AUTHOR: Marie - (U.S.A.)
SUBMITTED: Thursday, November 01, 2007

