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  • Submitted: Tue, June 06, 2006
  • Updated: Fri, February 08, 2013

  • Reported By:Anderson Indiana
Super Models International, Ro Pettiner
14420 Cherry Tree Rd Carmel, Indiana U.S.A.

Super Models International, Ro Pettiner Rip Off, deceptive Carmel Indiana

*General Comment: Super Models International A hit!

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Ro Pettiner launches real careers in modeling/talent

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Ro Pettiner launches real careers in modeling/talent

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Ro Pettiner launches real careers in modeling/talent

*REBUTTAL Owner of company: Ro Pettiner launches real careers in modeling/talent

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Ro Pettiner AKA Super Models International is the biggest scam agency in Indiana. She tells you lies and leads you to believe that without her your modeling/acting career will go no where.

If you call her/ send in your pictures or in the little bit of way let her know you are interested in a modeling career, she will tell you that she wants to conduct an interview. She calls everyone who looks like they have money or have connections to get money. She conducts her interviews in hotel rooms all throughout Indianapolis. She told me that her office is in her house but she doesnt allow strangers in her house, so there for all her business is conducted in Hotel Lobby's. In my first interview we met in the lobby, but shortly after we arrived we got kicked out because they would not allow her there, so our interview was in an Arby's. In my interview she was throwing around random names of models i've never heard of before saying that we launched their careers and how she has a lot of connections in Chicago and New York. She also was buttering me up by telling me how much potential I have how I can really make it in Chicago.

As the interview went on she was talking about a model search called indy search and also doing a photoshoot with a top photographer from New York. And she tries to set a date for the photoshoot, all this without speaking about prices at all, so after you set the date then she tells you how much you owe. It ends up being 500 for the shoot and 500 for the "search". Your have to make a 250 deposit then you must pay the rest before the shoot.

Shortly before the shoot you have to have a consultation about your outfits, and tells you what to do before the shoot, clean face, clean hair. This is after she picks the most ridiculous things that you have. So right before the shoot and calls me and has to reschedule, either because the photographer got held up, or she cant make it, or some random reasons. I reschduled my shoot with her 3 times before it actually happened. At my actual shoot her makeup/hair and photographer was phonies. They didn't touch my hair, my makeup was ridiculous, and the photographer wanted me to go partically topless. But she runs a respective agency. My shoot was actually held in the pool room of yet another random hotel. And he didn't use lights he made my boyfriend hold this shiny thing and went off the sunlight. And I only got two different outfit changes.

So a few weeks later I got my pictures back and I only got like 15 back out of 2 rolls. everyone I got back ws ridiculous and he didn't even do different angles. everyone of them was straight on. what a big shot photographer huh, but she kept on telling me how good they were and how the agencies would love them, this was after she got my negatives messed up with another girls, I am not new to modeling and even I could tell they bad, any respective agency would laugh in my face if I brought my portfolio in with those in them. At this same time she began telling me about her modeling classes that I would have to take before I went to chicago, she would teach me how to do my make-up, hair, walk and how to present myself. This was also 500 dollars. She even told me and my mom she just charges 500 for everything to make is easier on herself. So after we told her no to the modeling classes and then stopped hearing from her period. She would not answer our phone calls or anything.

About a year and a half after the shoot I met some girls that I was doing a hairshow with and they were going through her, some of them from the year before did not get their money, which was 300 dollars. So not only does she try to sucker you into your hard earned money, but she gets you one job a year and pockets all that money. I began bad mouthing her and word got around to her. After our confrontation on the phone and discussed how to make things better. She offered another shoot, but I had had two bad shoots with her before all I wanted was my money back. But she could not guarantee it, but she would review the pictures and then she what she could do. I live an hour away from where she wanted to meet. so about 2 hours before our appointment, guess what, she calls and cancels, something suprisingly came up.
So I confronted her about always cancelling and how she only has 3 options, give us our money, meet us where we live, or go to court, she then said her phone didn't work and she couldn't hear me and hung up.

She is a scam artist who keeps on sucking more and more girls for their and their parents money. She needs to be stopped, it has been going on for tooo long. She avoids all her phone calls, you must leave a message and if it isn't bad she might then return your call. Please do not give her your money!!!!!!! She is a scam artist and will not further your career in a anyways. She slowing takes thousands from your pocket and does this to many girls everyday!!!!!!

Rebecca
Anderson, Indiana
U.S.A.

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#1 General Comment

Super Models International A hit!

AUTHOR: J.T Gerken - (United States of America)

I was with Super Models in 1995 until about 1999 and I found mrs Ro Pettner to be very nurtuing and helpful on both a personal level and profesionaly. Indiana is a very small market and in order to branch out it is important to be withan egency that can take you to convintions and give you The oppertunity to meet otyhjer people in The buisness. Ro introduced me to many wonderful people and The convintion in Hilten Head S.C was an invlauable and amazing experiance which helped shape what would become a decent modeling and acting career. I won all but 1 of the major awards in The male modeling catagory at the convintion and it was a nice way to celebrate my 19th Birthday weekend. Expensive sure but if you put in The hard work neccesary and listen to your agent all you have to do is take advantage of every ooppertunity. The entertainment industry is a competitive and at times very lonley buisness and its important to surround yourself with people you cabn trust to help you get established. Ro was excelent in this regard and i'm forever very greatful for her contributions and for helping me grow as a young man. Super Models International is a legit company and it worked for me. Brad Blackwell from The Ck adds in The 90s I'm Sure would agree with me. Best of luck to all you future Models out there and if your looking for an agent who cares and who will help introduce you to other big agents around The larger markets They are affeliated with then Super Models and Ro is where you need to go.

Justin Gerken

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#2 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Ro Pettiner launches real careers in modeling/talent

AUTHOR: R - (U.S.A.)

Dear Reader: We live in a difficult day and age, to say the least. The internet has provided a great blessing in disseminating good information about many things, but it also is a double edged sword...it has provided a means for anyone with sour grapes of any kind to express them in the most public of ways. I question, as a teacher in several capacities throughout my life, what lessons we are teaching our children with letters of this nature being made so public. Worse, policing of the internet is far behind the development phase, and we are just now getting new legislation into place in several states and at the federal level to prevent publication of any type of untrue smears of the nature which has occurred here.

When I began in this industry nearly 18 years ago (I am now officially a dinosaur in this field), I was warned by family and friends who knew me that I needed a thicker skin. I was also warned by the father of a prospective talent who is a very good lawyer, who told me that the problems would come between false hopes/expectations and reality. I have been very careful to try to avoid problems of this nature, but over the years, a few people (as Lincoln pointed out) will be unhappy with the services offered and rendered.

Our agency was initially set up to launch careers at the national/international level and as such the program we offer is a blend of representation in the local market and personal management at the national level. We offer a "shortcut" to what is usually a long and arduous task on the talent's part to "get noticed" or discovered by major agencies in major markets, which is where the real careers are. My daughter was a successful model during high school and college years, just to have some fun and earn "pin" money. When we launched the agency we wanted to be very successful at placement, thus I have always been extremely particular at talent I take on, knowing from the beginning how to prepare them and what to do with them. I have enjoyed a good reputation at the national/international level, and was the discoverer within six months of the agency's founding of a young man who went to the top of the business as a Calvin Klein model for several years. That made my reputation, and I have been able to place about three quarters of the talent I work with.

What often stands in the way is that the talent or their parent believe at some point they know more than I do about the industry. They will not take my suggestions or do what is necessary in a timely fashion or worse yet, quit at some point. (Perserverance really pays off in this business.) People living in Indiana do not have a clue what a good picture really is. Or what the perspective is of the major agent (Please, no heavy black eyeliner or mascara when you see an agent, for example; they will know the talent is clueless immediately.) I do charge for my services and in many instance, save the talent a lot of time and trouble in the end. I once had a young man with a great look come to me and tell me he had tried for three years to get with a good agent. He spent every dime he had travelling to Chicago and sleeping on couches only to be signed with one after another ineffective lesser known agency. He didn't understand until I saw him that he was in the wrong market for his look. He should have gone to New York, which would have loved him. Another problem of recent development is that folks seem to think they can get in this business with no expenditure of money, time or effort. Not true. EVERYONE who makes it paid their dues, and dozens of times I have heard agents say "They think it's going to be handed to them on a silver platter!"

Just like other professionals, I expect to be paid for my services, which are very effective when the talent is responsive. I do not run a savings bank, where money can be put in, my time taken up and my expertise exploited and then the money taken out.

In the case of this writer, she came to me with a bit of an attitude. I believe she was originally unhappy with my recommendation due to her height and age that she pursue acting in addition to modeling. The hair and makeup person was real, the photographer is internationally known,people at shoots are often asked to assist with holding light reflectors, the pool room wall was used for one setting because of the interesting graphic painted on it, there was NEVER ANY SUGGESTION OF GOING TOPLESS. (I STRONGLY advise models against this, and it should be reported immediately to any agent in charge if this occurs.) As I recall, she came with her mother, because she was underage (a requirement of the agency). If someone did not get their money from a job , I am unaware of it. If they asked for a refund, deposits are non-refundable (many agencies/consultants are now refunding no fees). I did answer her and her mother's phone calls, and they tried to extort the fees from me by complaining that the pictures were not good and they would publicize their complaint if I did not comply. She never did a second shootl. The young woman was using expletives during our last conversation which I do not tolerate, so I hung up the phone.

I am now affiliated proudly with one of the best and oldest agencies in the business. I look forward to helping the many to come with realizing their true potential and would gladly provide references to anyone who calls my agency. I am proud to have served this industry well for many years...including co-founding a convention and the Cosmo Girl search, and serving as associate producer of the "Fashion Music Art" show in Vancouver a couple of years ago. Look for our new website soon! Sincerely, Ro Pettiner, Super! Models International
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AUTHOR: R - (U.S.A.)

Dear Reader: We live in a difficult day and age, to say the least. The internet has provided a great blessing in disseminating good information about many things, but it also is a double edged sword...it has provided a means for anyone with sour grapes of any kind to express them in the most public of ways. I question, as a teacher in several capacities throughout my life, what lessons we are teaching our children with letters of this nature being made so public. Worse, policing of the internet is far behind the development phase, and we are just now getting new legislation into place in several states and at the federal level to prevent publication of any type of untrue smears of the nature which has occurred here.

When I began in this industry nearly 18 years ago (I am now officially a dinosaur in this field), I was warned by family and friends who knew me that I needed a thicker skin. I was also warned by the father of a prospective talent who is a very good lawyer, who told me that the problems would come between false hopes/expectations and reality. I have been very careful to try to avoid problems of this nature, but over the years, a few people (as Lincoln pointed out) will be unhappy with the services offered and rendered.

Our agency was initially set up to launch careers at the national/international level and as such the program we offer is a blend of representation in the local market and personal management at the national level. We offer a "shortcut" to what is usually a long and arduous task on the talent's part to "get noticed" or discovered by major agencies in major markets, which is where the real careers are. My daughter was a successful model during high school and college years, just to have some fun and earn "pin" money. When we launched the agency we wanted to be very successful at placement, thus I have always been extremely particular at talent I take on, knowing from the beginning how to prepare them and what to do with them. I have enjoyed a good reputation at the national/international level, and was the discoverer within six months of the agency's founding of a young man who went to the top of the business as a Calvin Klein model for several years. That made my reputation, and I have been able to place about three quarters of the talent I work with.

What often stands in the way is that the talent or their parent believe at some point they know more than I do about the industry. They will not take my suggestions or do what is necessary in a timely fashion or worse yet, quit at some point. (Perserverance really pays off in this business.) People living in Indiana do not have a clue what a good picture really is. Or what the perspective is of the major agent (Please, no heavy black eyeliner or mascara when you see an agent, for example; they will know the talent is clueless immediately.) I do charge for my services and in many instance, save the talent a lot of time and trouble in the end. I once had a young man with a great look come to me and tell me he had tried for three years to get with a good agent. He spent every dime he had travelling to Chicago and sleeping on couches only to be signed with one after another ineffective lesser known agency. He didn't understand until I saw him that he was in the wrong market for his look. He should have gone to New York, which would have loved him. Another problem of recent development is that folks seem to think they can get in this business with no expenditure of money, time or effort. Not true. EVERYONE who makes it paid their dues, and dozens of times I have heard agents say "They think it's going to be handed to them on a silver platter!"

Just like other professionals, I expect to be paid for my services, which are very effective when the talent is responsive. I do not run a savings bank, where money can be put in, my time taken up and my expertise exploited and then the money taken out.

In the case of this writer, she came to me with a bit of an attitude. I believe she was originally unhappy with my recommendation due to her height and age that she pursue acting in addition to modeling. The hair and makeup person was real, the photographer is internationally known,people at shoots are often asked to assist with holding light reflectors, the pool room wall was used for one setting because of the interesting graphic painted on it, there was NEVER ANY SUGGESTION OF GOING TOPLESS. (I STRONGLY advise models against this, and it should be reported immediately to any agent in charge if this occurs.) As I recall, she came with her mother, because she was underage (a requirement of the agency). If someone did not get their money from a job , I am unaware of it. If they asked for a refund, deposits are non-refundable (many agencies/consultants are now refunding no fees). I did answer her and her mother's phone calls, and they tried to extort the fees from me by complaining that the pictures were not good and they would publicize their complaint if I did not comply. She never did a second shootl. The young woman was using expletives during our last conversation which I do not tolerate, so I hung up the phone.

I am now affiliated proudly with one of the best and oldest agencies in the business. I look forward to helping the many to come with realizing their true potential and would gladly provide references to anyone who calls my agency. I am proud to have served this industry well for many years...including co-founding a convention and the Cosmo Girl search, and serving as associate producer of the "Fashion Music Art" show in Vancouver a couple of years ago. Look for our new website soon! Sincerely, Ro Pettiner, Super! Models International
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#4 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Ro Pettiner launches real careers in modeling/talent

AUTHOR: R - (U.S.A.)

Dear Reader: We live in a difficult day and age, to say the least. The internet has provided a great blessing in disseminating good information about many things, but it also is a double edged sword...it has provided a means for anyone with sour grapes of any kind to express them in the most public of ways. I question, as a teacher in several capacities throughout my life, what lessons we are teaching our children with letters of this nature being made so public. Worse, policing of the internet is far behind the development phase, and we are just now getting new legislation into place in several states and at the federal level to prevent publication of any type of untrue smears of the nature which has occurred here.

When I began in this industry nearly 18 years ago (I am now officially a dinosaur in this field), I was warned by family and friends who knew me that I needed a thicker skin. I was also warned by the father of a prospective talent who is a very good lawyer, who told me that the problems would come between false hopes/expectations and reality. I have been very careful to try to avoid problems of this nature, but over the years, a few people (as Lincoln pointed out) will be unhappy with the services offered and rendered.

Our agency was initially set up to launch careers at the national/international level and as such the program we offer is a blend of representation in the local market and personal management at the national level. We offer a "shortcut" to what is usually a long and arduous task on the talent's part to "get noticed" or discovered by major agencies in major markets, which is where the real careers are. My daughter was a successful model during high school and college years, just to have some fun and earn "pin" money. When we launched the agency we wanted to be very successful at placement, thus I have always been extremely particular at talent I take on, knowing from the beginning how to prepare them and what to do with them. I have enjoyed a good reputation at the national/international level, and was the discoverer within six months of the agency's founding of a young man who went to the top of the business as a Calvin Klein model for several years. That made my reputation, and I have been able to place about three quarters of the talent I work with.

What often stands in the way is that the talent or their parent believe at some point they know more than I do about the industry. They will not take my suggestions or do what is necessary in a timely fashion or worse yet, quit at some point. (Perserverance really pays off in this business.) People living in Indiana do not have a clue what a good picture really is. Or what the perspective is of the major agent (Please, no heavy black eyeliner or mascara when you see an agent, for example; they will know the talent is clueless immediately.) I do charge for my services and in many instance, save the talent a lot of time and trouble in the end. I once had a young man with a great look come to me and tell me he had tried for three years to get with a good agent. He spent every dime he had travelling to Chicago and sleeping on couches only to be signed with one after another ineffective lesser known agency. He didn't understand until I saw him that he was in the wrong market for his look. He should have gone to New York, which would have loved him. Another problem of recent development is that folks seem to think they can get in this business with no expenditure of money, time or effort. Not true. EVERYONE who makes it paid their dues, and dozens of times I have heard agents say "They think it's going to be handed to them on a silver platter!"

Just like other professionals, I expect to be paid for my services, which are very effective when the talent is responsive. I do not run a savings bank, where money can be put in, my time taken up and my expertise exploited and then the money taken out.

In the case of this writer, she came to me with a bit of an attitude. I believe she was originally unhappy with my recommendation due to her height and age that she pursue acting in addition to modeling. The hair and makeup person was real, the photographer is internationally known,people at shoots are often asked to assist with holding light reflectors, the pool room wall was used for one setting because of the interesting graphic painted on it, there was NEVER ANY SUGGESTION OF GOING TOPLESS. (I STRONGLY advise models against this, and it should be reported immediately to any agent in charge if this occurs.) As I recall, she came with her mother, because she was underage (a requirement of the agency). If someone did not get their money from a job , I am unaware of it. If they asked for a refund, deposits are non-refundable (many agencies/consultants are now refunding no fees). I did answer her and her mother's phone calls, and they tried to extort the fees from me by complaining that the pictures were not good and they would publicize their complaint if I did not comply. She never did a second shootl. The young woman was using expletives during our last conversation which I do not tolerate, so I hung up the phone.

I am now affiliated proudly with one of the best and oldest agencies in the business. I look forward to helping the many to come with realizing their true potential and would gladly provide references to anyone who calls my agency. I am proud to have served this industry well for many years...including co-founding a convention and the Cosmo Girl search, and serving as associate producer of the "Fashion Music Art" show in Vancouver a couple of years ago. Look for our new website soon! Sincerely, Ro Pettiner, Super! Models International
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#5 REBUTTAL Owner of company

Ro Pettiner launches real careers in modeling/talent

AUTHOR: R - (U.S.A.)

Dear Reader: We live in a difficult day and age, to say the least. The internet has provided a great blessing in disseminating good information about many things, but it also is a double edged sword...it has provided a means for anyone with sour grapes of any kind to express them in the most public of ways. I question, as a teacher in several capacities throughout my life, what lessons we are teaching our children with letters of this nature being made so public. Worse, policing of the internet is far behind the development phase, and we are just now getting new legislation into place in several states and at the federal level to prevent publication of any type of untrue smears of the nature which has occurred here.

When I began in this industry nearly 18 years ago (I am now officially a dinosaur in this field), I was warned by family and friends who knew me that I needed a thicker skin. I was also warned by the father of a prospective talent who is a very good lawyer, who told me that the problems would come between false hopes/expectations and reality. I have been very careful to try to avoid problems of this nature, but over the years, a few people (as Lincoln pointed out) will be unhappy with the services offered and rendered.

Our agency was initially set up to launch careers at the national/international level and as such the program we offer is a blend of representation in the local market and personal management at the national level. We offer a "shortcut" to what is usually a long and arduous task on the talent's part to "get noticed" or discovered by major agencies in major markets, which is where the real careers are. My daughter was a successful model during high school and college years, just to have some fun and earn "pin" money. When we launched the agency we wanted to be very successful at placement, thus I have always been extremely particular at talent I take on, knowing from the beginning how to prepare them and what to do with them. I have enjoyed a good reputation at the national/international level, and was the discoverer within six months of the agency's founding of a young man who went to the top of the business as a Calvin Klein model for several years. That made my reputation, and I have been able to place about three quarters of the talent I work with.

What often stands in the way is that the talent or their parent believe at some point they know more than I do about the industry. They will not take my suggestions or do what is necessary in a timely fashion or worse yet, quit at some point. (Perserverance really pays off in this business.) People living in Indiana do not have a clue what a good picture really is. Or what the perspective is of the major agent (Please, no heavy black eyeliner or mascara when you see an agent, for example; they will know the talent is clueless immediately.) I do charge for my services and in many instance, save the talent a lot of time and trouble in the end. I once had a young man with a great look come to me and tell me he had tried for three years to get with a good agent. He spent every dime he had travelling to Chicago and sleeping on couches only to be signed with one after another ineffective lesser known agency. He didn't understand until I saw him that he was in the wrong market for his look. He should have gone to New York, which would have loved him. Another problem of recent development is that folks seem to think they can get in this business with no expenditure of money, time or effort. Not true. EVERYONE who makes it paid their dues, and dozens of times I have heard agents say "They think it's going to be handed to them on a silver platter!"

Just like other professionals, I expect to be paid for my services, which are very effective when the talent is responsive. I do not run a savings bank, where money can be put in, my time taken up and my expertise exploited and then the money taken out.

In the case of this writer, she came to me with a bit of an attitude. I believe she was originally unhappy with my recommendation due to her height and age that she pursue acting in addition to modeling. The hair and makeup person was real, the photographer is internationally known,people at shoots are often asked to assist with holding light reflectors, the pool room wall was used for one setting because of the interesting graphic painted on it, there was NEVER ANY SUGGESTION OF GOING TOPLESS. (I STRONGLY advise models against this, and it should be reported immediately to any agent in charge if this occurs.) As I recall, she came with her mother, because she was underage (a requirement of the agency). If someone did not get their money from a job , I am unaware of it. If they asked for a refund, deposits are non-refundable (many agencies/consultants are now refunding no fees). I did answer her and her mother's phone calls, and they tried to extort the fees from me by complaining that the pictures were not good and they would publicize their complaint if I did not comply. She never did a second shootl. The young woman was using expletives during our last conversation which I do not tolerate, so I hung up the phone.

I am now affiliated proudly with one of the best and oldest agencies in the business. I look forward to helping the many to come with realizing their true potential and would gladly provide references to anyone who calls my agency. I am proud to have served this industry well for many years...including co-founding a convention and the Cosmo Girl search, and serving as associate producer of the "Fashion Music Art" show in Vancouver a couple of years ago. Look for our new website soon! Sincerely, Ro Pettiner, Super! Models International
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